Totv is not congress

[BK001]

A thread that started at 6:22 pm last night with 58 posts (the latest at 9:13 this morning) has just been closed. It made me wonder what are the rules/parameters for closing a thread?

I did a search and found the obvious opinions/speculations. Some sound reasonable, others don’t fit a consistent formula such as “…after 6 months” or “…when there are not more posters”, etc. So I read the Talk of the Villages Website Guidelines and Rules. While it didn’t answer my question with the degree of specificity I prefer, I found the following salient points helpful.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/cmps_index.php?pageid=rules

Extracts from Talk of the Villages Website Guidelines and Rules


Content: Talk of the Villages website is created to be an online community for The Villages Florida residents and those seeking information on The Villages Florida community and lifestyle.

Me: I think we sometimes forget about those seeking information are not yet insiders and so the attempt is to always present in a positive albeit some may think Pollyannish way.

Politics: Talk of the Villages presently has an unmoderated opt-in forum dedicated to political discussions. Member identification is masked as 'guest' to discourage personal attacks and emphasize discussion of topics and not personalities. The owners of Talk of the Villages retain the right to discontinue the political forum at any time.

Me: Yes, I know this has been discontinued. I didn't find the political thread until long after we had moved here. Initially I found it so disturbing that in fact, it made me wonder whether we had made the right choice. (Obviously I got over it but it was chilling to me).

Keep it PG-rated and positive: The community of Talk of the Villages is based upon "Florida’s Friendliest Retirement Hometown".

Me: See my response to Content above.

Inappropriate Word Usage: The Talk of the Villages message boards have a censor that removes inappropriate words and replaces them with ***. Do not attempt to bypass the censor by misspelling inappropriate words. They will be edited and your account will be subject to point infractions being issued and possible banning.

Me: I understand the desire to keep TOTV "clean" and avoid 4-letter words that may be offensive to some.

Chatter/Thread Hijacking: We ask you keep private conversations that appear to be "private conversations" in PM or IM so as not to exclude other members or imply a culture of cliques on the site.

Me: I frequently want to engage a little more with individuals
about their posts and don't feel it to be "exclusionary" but rules are rules.

Public Flames/Hot Topics: Please refrain from posting messages that contain potential hot topics known as polarizing arguments. A tone of "kindness" is appreciated for all discussions.

Me: Perhaps the thread appeared to be departing from that "tone of kindness"? I didn't find that to be the case but some of us have thicker skin than others.

Informational links: We allow you to add informational/educational links in reply to a support request thread only if the link goes to a non-commercial site.

Me: I guess this explains why we can not refer to that online news site that can not be mentioned? Although I can't help laughing whenever I read "that site that can not be mentioned".

Moving posts/Closing Threads: … moderators may close any thread at any time when it is deemed to be hopelessly off topic, too inflammatory, topic/question thoroughly answered, or information has become dated or debunked.

Me: Obviously moderators have a wide discretionary berth.

Freedom of Speech: Although the Constitution of the US guarantees that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, Talk of the Villages is not Congress. Freedom of speech rights do not extend to this privately owned website.

Me: This one says it all.

[graciegirl]

A thread that started at 6:22 pm last night with 58 posts (the latest at 9:13 this morning) has just been closed. It made me wonder what are the rules/parameters for closing a thread?

I did a search and found the obvious opinions/speculations. Some sound reasonable, others don’t fit a consistent formula such as “…after 6 months” or “…when there are not more posters”, etc. So I read the Talk of the Villages Website Guidelines and Rules. While it didn’t answer my question with the degree of specificity I prefer, I found the following salient points helpful.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/cmps_index.php?pageid=rules

Extracts from Talk of the Villages Website Guidelines and Rules


Content: Talk of the Villages website is created to be an online community for The Villages Florida residents and those seeking information on The Villages Florida community and lifestyle.

Me: I think we sometimes forget about those seeking information are not yet insiders and so the attempt is to always present in a positive albeit some may think Pollyannish way.

Politics: Talk of the Villages presently has an unmoderated opt-in forum dedicated to political discussions. Member identification is masked as 'guest' to discourage personal attacks and emphasize discussion of topics and not personalities. The owners of Talk of the Villages retain the right to discontinue the political forum at any time.

Me: Yes, I know this has been discontinued. I didn't find the political thread until long after we had moved here. Initially I found it so disturbing that in fact, it made me wonder whether we had made the right choice. (Obviously I got over it but it was chilling to me).

Keep it PG-rated and positive: The community of Talk of the Villages is based upon "Florida’s Friendliest Retirement Hometown".

Me: See my response to Content above.

Inappropriate Word Usage: The Talk of the Villages message boards have a censor that removes inappropriate words and replaces them with ***. Do not attempt to bypass the censor by misspelling inappropriate words. They will be edited and your account will be subject to point infractions being issued and possible banning.

Me: I understand the desire to keep TOTV "clean" and avoid 4-letter words that may be offensive to some.

Chatter/Thread Hijacking: We ask you keep private conversations that appear to be "private conversations" in PM or IM so as not to exclude other members or imply a culture of cliques on the site.

Me: I frequently want to engage a little more with individuals
about their posts and don't feel it to be "exclusionary" but rules are rules.

Public Flames/Hot Topics: Please refrain from posting messages that contain potential hot topics known as polarizing arguments. A tone of "kindness" is appreciated for all discussions.

Me: Perhaps the thread appeared to be departing from that "tone of kindness"? I didn't find that to be the case but some of us have thicker skin than others.

Informational links: We allow you to add informational/educational links in reply to a support request thread only if the link goes to a non-commercial site.

Me: I guess this explains why we can not refer to that online news site that can not be mentioned? Although I can't help laughing whenever I read "that site that can not be mentioned".

Moving posts/Closing Threads: … moderators may close any thread at any time when it is deemed to be hopelessly off topic, too inflammatory, topic/question thoroughly answered, or information has become dated or debunked.

Me: Obviously moderators have a wide discretionary berth.

Freedom of Speech: Although the Constitution of the US guarantees that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, Talk of the Villages is not Congress. Freedom of speech rights do not extend to this privately owned website.

Me: This one says it all.

I like you girl. You are a smart cookie. Wish you lived where we could engage each other in conversation.

[Love2Swim]

A thread that started at 6:22 pm last night with 58 posts (the latest at 9:13 this morning) has just been closed. It made me wonder what are the rules/parameters for closing a thread?

I did a search and found the obvious opinions/speculations. Some sound reasonable, others don’t fit a consistent formula such as “…after 6 months” or “…when there are not more posters”, etc. So I read the Talk of the Villages Website Guidelines and Rules. While it didn’t answer my question with the degree of specificity I prefer, I found the following salient points helpful.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/cmps_index.php?pageid=rules

Extracts from Talk of the Villages Website Guidelines and Rules


Content: Talk of the Villages website is created to be an online community for The Villages Florida residents and those seeking information on The Villages Florida community and lifestyle.

Me: I think we sometimes forget about those seeking information are not yet insiders and so the attempt is to always present in a positive albeit some may think Pollyannish way.

Politics: Talk of the Villages presently has an unmoderated opt-in forum dedicated to political discussions. Member identification is masked as 'guest' to discourage personal attacks and emphasize discussion of topics and not personalities. The owners of Talk of the Villages retain the right to discontinue the political forum at any time.

Me: Yes, I know this has been discontinued. I didn't find the political thread until long after we had moved here. Initially I found it so disturbing that in fact, it made me wonder whether we had made the right choice. (Obviously I got over it but it was chilling to me).

Keep it PG-rated and positive: The community of Talk of the Villages is based upon "Florida’s Friendliest Retirement Hometown".

Me: See my response to Content above.

Inappropriate Word Usage: The Talk of the Villages message boards have a censor that removes inappropriate words and replaces them with ***. Do not attempt to bypass the censor by misspelling inappropriate words. They will be edited and your account will be subject to point infractions being issued and possible banning.

Me: I understand the desire to keep TOTV "clean" and avoid 4-letter words that may be offensive to some.

Chatter/Thread Hijacking: We ask you keep private conversations that appear to be "private conversations" in PM or IM so as not to exclude other members or imply a culture of cliques on the site.

Me: I frequently want to engage a little more with individuals
about their posts and don't feel it to be "exclusionary" but rules are rules.

Public Flames/Hot Topics: Please refrain from posting messages that contain potential hot topics known as polarizing arguments. A tone of "kindness" is appreciated for all discussions.

Me: Perhaps the thread appeared to be departing from that "tone of kindness"? I didn't find that to be the case but some of us have thicker skin than others.

Informational links: We allow you to add informational/educational links in reply to a support request thread only if the link goes to a non-commercial site.

Me: I guess this explains why we can not refer to that online news site that can not be mentioned? Although I can't help laughing whenever I read "that site that can not be mentioned".

Moving posts/Closing Threads: … moderators may close any thread at any time when it is deemed to be hopelessly off topic, too inflammatory, topic/question thoroughly answered, or information has become dated or debunked.

Me: Obviously moderators have a wide discretionary berth.

Freedom of Speech: Although the Constitution of the US guarantees that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, Talk of the Villages is not Congress. Freedom of speech rights do not extend to this privately owned website.

Me: This one says it all.

And it is my understanding that some of the problem "children" that post, are also moderators, which adds another element to to the mix. They can close threads that don't match their point of view.

[CWGUY]

Congress has 535 members that are full of themselves..... we have a lot less. :ho:

[CWGUY]

And it is my understanding that some of the problem "children" that post, are also moderators, which adds another element to to the mix. They can close threads that don't match their point of view.

:oops: Think you might be on too something there!

[Bogie Shooter]

And it is my understanding that some of the problem "children" that post, are also moderators, which adds another element to to the mix. They can close threads that don't match their point of view.

Carefull..............

[Nucky]

:oops: Think you might be on too something there!

I had one post removed instantly, within 2 minutes of posting which proved to me who one of the Chiefs is.

It's just the way the cookie crumbles, it is disappointing sometimes for sure. Mrs. BK for President! :bigbow: :1rotfl:

[Nucky]

Carefull..............

Bogie Shooter you are correct, careful is the way to express yourself about this but I think Love2Swim was to the point and tasteful. :ohdear:

[CWGUY]

I had one post removed instantly, within 2 minutes of posting which proved to me who one of the Chiefs is.

It's just the way the cookie crumbles, it is disappointing sometimes for sure. Mrs. BK for President! :bigbow: :1rotfl:

:oops: Do you think the Chief is related to an Admiral?

[fw102807]

Although I can't help laughing whenever I read "that site that can not be mentioned".



This always makes me think of Harry Potter

[Taltarzac725]

This always makes me think of Harry Potter

Love Harry Potter. There were so many Harry Potter questions on FunTrivia that I had to watch the movies several times and also read some of the books because of all the Quizzes on Harry Potter.

Not sure where this thread is going nor if it will stay visible.

[graciegirl]

Who do y'all think are moderators? I knew one for a fact more than ten years ago, but she isn't anymore. She was from Atlanta and might have known the owner .

One person has been very quiet as of late that I even thought he might be ill, but he still posts. Who? Who do you think is the moddie? How did Love2Swim "come to her understanding"????? I sure would like to know. Some moddies are very slow to delete and others delete a lot and some let threads go on and on and others shut them down ...bang.

[Bjeanj]

And it is my understanding that some of the problem "children" that post, are also moderators, which adds another element to to the mix. They can close threads that don't match their point of view.

While technically they can, have they done so?
If so, please cite example.

[Bogie Shooter]

Who do y'all think are moderators? I knew one for a fact more than ten years ago, but she isn't anymore. She was from Atlanta and might have known the owner .

One person has been very quiet as of late that I even thought he might be ill, but he still posts. Who? Who do you think is the moddie? How did Love2Swim "come to her understanding"????? I sure would like to know. Some moddies are very slow to delete and others delete a lot and some let threads go on and on and others shut them down ...bang.
No, no Gracie it’s......:boom::)

[thelegges]

Have to say GG is right some are quick to close a thread and sometimes a thread that has gone off the rails never gets closed. :faint: it’s unimportant to me who is a mod

[Carl in Tampa]

The first few times I encountered a closed thread, it seemed to me that someone had just attacked my position, and I had prepared a detailed, logical rebuttal.............but couldn't post it because the thread was closed.

It happened so often that I just adjusted to the fact that I wouldn't be getting the last (and correct) word. Oh well.......

[graciegirl]

The first few times I encountered a closed thread, it seemed to me that someone had just attacked my position, and I had prepared a detailed, logical rebuttal.............but couldn't post it because the thread was closed.

It happened so often that I just adjusted to the fact that I wouldn't be getting the last (and correct) word. Oh well.......

There are about a half dozen people on this forum that I NEVER disagree with. You are one of them. I do love to get into an interesting debate.

[ColdNoMore]

Oh the intrigue. :1rotfl:

I'm betting that all of the mods/admins are out enjoying the day, or I'm thinking that this thread...would have already been closed.

As I've been told, the mods are unscheduled, unpaid volunteers, so a lack of action on a particular thread...usually just means no one is around.

And of course, discussing moderation...is one of TOTV's big no-no's. :D

Maybe (hopefully) they'll leave this one open for a while though...for the entertainment factor.

:popcorn:

[2BNTV]

TOTV site wouldn't need moderators if users mastered the art of stating their opinion without marginalizing another persons point of view or attacking them personally. That seems to be the number one cause of causing threads to close.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but in today's social media whirl, one must make sure their brain is engaged before hitting the send button. I always think of how I would feel if I hurt some other persons feelings or my own, over the lack of civiilty but that's me.

My guess is some people post when angry and seem to not care where the dust settles. Some people's humor is lost in the written word sometimes, unless one takes time to know that person. IMHO

[ColdNoMore]

TOTV site wouldn't need moderators if users mastered the art of stating their opinion without marginalizing another persons point of view or attacking them personally. That seems to be the number one cause of causing threads to close.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but in today's social media whirl, one must make sure their brain is engaged before hitting the send button. I always think of how I would feel if I hurt some other persons feelings or my own, over the lack of civiilty but that's me.

My guess is some people post when angry and seem to not care where the dust settles. Some people's humor is lost in the written word sometimes, unless one takes time to know that person. IMHO

:agree:

In addition to everyone having the right to their own opinion, trying not to constantly assert some type of superiority (based on a myriad of criteria) of ones own opinion...would also help. :thumbup:

[queasy27]

The Bonefish thread quickly veered off-topic into discussing one poster's opinions about restaurants rather than the restaurant itself. Often they do, but it would help to always get a note about why a thread was closed, just for learning purposes.

Since Usenet, it has always been thus that members of online discussion boards fuss about the moderation. :-)

[rustyp]

Anyone ever do a search on who was the last poster before a thread was shut down ?

[Moderator]

This thread is closed. There is a lot of good information in the first post. There are good comments about disagreeing without being disagreeable. There are some comments publicly questioning the moderator actions which is a violation of the site guidelines and those will cause a post/thread to be removed. Members can use the PM function to contact the mods about any action taken.

Moderator

[TOTV Team]

And it is my understanding that some of the problem "children" that post, are also moderators, which adds another element to to the mix. They can close threads that don't match their point of view.

Love2Swim - This is not the case. There are multiple moderators and any action taken is visible by all the moderators, staff of TOTV and owners. All moderation is done in accord with the site rules. If a site rule is not violated the post does NOT get moderated.