View Full Version : Unhappy people...and observation
NotGolfer
10-17-2018, 10:18 AM
It takes all kinds to make up our community. Today I was behind an elderly woman (using the automatic cart) at Aldi. She was checking out and ALL the while screaming at the checker on how she hated to shop there. She could never find what she wanted and blah, blah, blah. Wanted to know where the main office was so she could complain further. He called the manager who politely listened to her tirade. That said though...this woman is parked with that cart where ALL the people were trying to leave and do their own thing at the packing shelf. When she decides to finally move, she nearly backs into me. Then speaks sharply---"don't worry, I won't run over you!' while she's almost doing it.
People...who aren't familiar with Aldi! You may not be able to find your favorite products ALL of the time as they might only carry them for a short period of time. So "IF" you see something you like stock up or just be aware of this. I wonder if some folks are just unhappy and love to make LIFE miserable for others because they are themselves. Her behavior was horrible and certainly had the attention of all the people at the front of the store. THEN in the parking lot...she didn't park the cart close to her car to unpack her goods, but instead kept it out in the middle of the lane so it caused a traffic back-up as well.
:(:(:(
Tom C
10-17-2018, 10:46 AM
I agree. I have not figured out some people.... I don't know if it is that they are unhappy, inconsiderate, want (need?) attention or something else.
I usually choose to smile at them and walk away. Life is too short (and not fun at all) to act like that.
Chatbrat
10-17-2018, 10:49 AM
Statistic state 10% of all Americans over age 65 have dementia/alzheimers- and 2/3 of these people are female--and they drive until diagnosed-- you just may have encountered one
manaboutown
10-17-2018, 10:55 AM
Or she could have been a pain all her life, Narcissistic, demanding and thoughtless of others.
NotGolfer
10-17-2018, 11:16 AM
I had the thought, but way too late that I should have re-parked my car and asked her if she needed help with taking her cart back. Kindness sometimes goes a long way. Yes, I did think of the possibility of dementia. My MIL, as she aged, lost her "filter" and said things that were very hurtful at times. I probably judged this woman and should have had some empathy for her.
VillageIdiots
10-17-2018, 11:19 AM
I have known many people in my life that are that way. The way I like to put it is that they are not happy unless they can find something to be unhappy about.
jebartle
10-17-2018, 11:23 AM
I think it's in the water, giggle. Some folks find ways to be miserable in paradise. Yesterday went to Rio Grande pool because Chula was being cleaned. Said "good morning" only response "It's the Chula group, why don't you go out for breakfast and leave our pool alone"....WHAT!!!!!! Last time I checked, we all paid the same amenity fee for pools, ugh!
photo1902
10-17-2018, 11:27 AM
I had the thought, but way too late that I should have re-parked my car and asked her if she needed help with taking her cart back. Kindness sometimes goes a long way. Yes, I did think of the possibility of dementia. My MIL, as she aged, lost her "filter" and said things that were very hurtful at times. I probably judged this woman and should have had some empathy for her.
You're a good person for even stopping to consider what this person might have been going through.
Chatbrat
10-17-2018, 11:35 AM
Didn't know groups owned the pools,--my wife has to put up with the same stuff in the sports pools, when the water volley ball groups , don't abide by the time there supposed to start setting up- they infringe on the lap swimmers-- rules are meant for everyone--rules make a society civil
billethkid
10-17-2018, 11:41 AM
There is no getting around it, some people are just nasty. Their goal is simple; make as many people as possible miserable each day.
I prefer not to taint those with valid medical conditions that may/may not make them very happy.
Best advice when encountering one of these nasties?
DO NOT ENGAGE!!!
Madelaine Amee
10-17-2018, 11:41 AM
It must be Aldie's week .......... I was in my local Aldi yesterday and, thankfully, it was not too busy. However, I seemed to have a shadow - wherever I was in the store this lady was wanting to be at the same place. I thought nothing of it until she suddenly said to me "I hate this store, someone is always where I want to be in here". I thought to my self that she was probably a seasonal resident returning from the woods up north where she does not have to meet too many people, or fight for "her SPOT". However, when I went out to the parking lot she was parked right beside me .... yea, another dose of nasty. She told me there was not much room in the lot, now I had arrived before her and made sure I left plenty of room to load my groceries into the car. At that point I did not let her get away with it .... I told her I had left plenty of room to load up and that she was parked too close to the line. At that she said nothing .... but, I let it annoy me for the rest of the day, and obviously I am still annoyed today! So, let it go ............ let it go ............ which sounds so easy to do when I really want to get back at her for making my day miserable.
Henryk
10-17-2018, 11:47 AM
I think it's in the water, giggle. Some folks find ways to be miserable in paradise. Yesterday went to Rio Grande pool because Chula was being cleaned. Said "good morning" only response "It's the Chula group, why don't you go out for breakfast and leave our pool alone"....WHAT!!!!!! Last time I checked, we all paid the same amenity fee for pools, ugh!
I would not have been silent. I don’t suffer fools lightly.
Chatbrat
10-17-2018, 11:47 AM
the argument/fight you are guaranteed to win--is the one you avoid
BK001
10-17-2018, 12:41 PM
I had the thought, but way too late that I should have re-parked my car and asked her if she needed help with taking her cart back. Kindness sometimes goes a long way. Yes, I did think of the possibility of dementia. My MIL, as she aged, lost her "filter" and said things that were very hurtful at times. I probably judged this woman and should have had some empathy for her.
I agree. Sometimes you fight fire with fire. But in my opinion, in MOST cases you fight fire with water! In other words kindness.
Some people are in pain and unable to recognize how bitter/angry/selfish they are coming off to others.
DonH57
10-17-2018, 12:43 PM
I think it's in the water, giggle. Some folks find ways to be miserable in paradise. Yesterday went to Rio Grande pool because Chula was being cleaned. Said "good morning" only response "It's the Chula group, why don't you go out for breakfast and leave our pool alone"....WHAT!!!!!! Last time I checked, we all paid the same amenity fee for pools, ugh!
I flopped into the Chula Vista pool one day after playing golf so I could cool off. Found a chair, showered off and got in. Talk about being stared at and no hi, bye, screw ya, or nothing. Totally felt un welcomed.:(
manaboutown
10-17-2018, 01:07 PM
"Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise; for the wise avoid the error of fools, while fools do not profit from the examples of the wise."
"An angry man, in his opinion, differs only from a madman in the shorter time his passion endures."
Cato the Elder
Madelaine Amee
10-17-2018, 01:28 PM
I think it's in the water, giggle. Some folks find ways to be miserable in paradise. Yesterday went to Rio Grande pool because Chula was being cleaned. Said "good morning" only response "It's the Chula group, why don't you go out for breakfast and leave our pool alone"....WHAT!!!!!! Last time I checked, we all paid the same amenity fee for pools, ugh!
I'm going to hijack the thread for just this one post .... sometime this past summer our local village pool was taken over by a woman from another village who was charging people for water exercises every morning and was not allowing the residents into the water. She was busted, of course, but what gives people the idea they can do whatever they want.
Fredster
10-17-2018, 01:37 PM
This thread reminds me of a saying.
“Misery not only likes company, it demands it!”
thelegges
10-17-2018, 01:39 PM
I flopped into the Chula Vista pool one day after playing golf so I could cool off. Found a chair, showered off and got in. Talk about being stared at and no hi, bye, screw ya, or nothing. Totally felt un welcomed.:(
Pick a pool any pool and you find the same fun loving people, you ran into today
My Post
10-17-2018, 02:08 PM
I flopped into the Chula Vista pool one day after playing golf so I could cool off. Found a chair, showered off and got in. Talk about being stared at and no hi, bye, screw ya, or nothing. Totally felt un welcomed.:(
Maybe it was your purple speedo?
BobnBev
10-17-2018, 02:20 PM
Didn't know groups owned the pools,--my wife has to put up with the same stuff in the sports pools, when the water volley ball groups , don't abide by the time there supposed to start setting up- they infringe on the lap swimmers-- rules are meant for everyone--rules make a society civil
You can only be walked on if you permit it.:ohdear:
BobnBev
10-17-2018, 02:26 PM
I flopped into the Chula Vista pool one day after playing golf so I could cool off. Found a chair, showered off and got in. Talk about being stared at and no hi, bye, screw ya, or nothing. Totally felt un welcomed.:(
Looks like I will be going to the Chula Vista pool. I'm up for rattling their cage.:a040::MOJE_whot::a040::MOJE_whot::boom:
Fraugoofy
10-17-2018, 03:05 PM
Looks like I will be going to the Chula Vista pool. I'm up for rattling their cage.:a040::MOJE_whot::a040::MOJE_whot::boom:I will join you and I will be sure to wear my teeny weeny teeny tiny polka dot bikini that day...
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BK001
10-17-2018, 03:19 PM
I will join you and I will be sure to wear my teeny weeny teeny tiny polka dot bikini that day...
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Surely you meant "itsy, bitsy, teeny, weeny, yellow polka dot bikini"?
LOL -- send an announcement so we can get some photographers and maybe even the press. LOL
Gpsma
10-17-2018, 03:41 PM
There are a lot of people here that need to be pistol whipped.
Regarding any comment by someone in a pool who requests that you dont use “their” pool, I would simply go up to them, apologize, and tell them..”I dont like to use “my” pool when I need to urinate frquently, like Im doing now.
New Englander
10-17-2018, 03:43 PM
Looks like I will be going to the Chula Vista pool. I'm up for rattling their cage.:a040::MOJE_whot::a040::MOJE_whot::boom:
I'm thinking the same thing. :boxing2:
Doro22
10-17-2018, 04:16 PM
I think it's in the water, giggle. Some folks find ways to be miserable in paradise. Yesterday went to Rio Grande pool because Chula was being cleaned. Said "good morning" only response "It's the Chula group, why don't you go out for breakfast and leave our pool alone"....WHAT!!!!!! Last time I checked, we all paid the same amenity fee for pools, ugh!
That is terrible. I really don’t know what I would have replied under those circumstances, as I think I would have been shocked speechless. Rude ignorant people!
Fraugoofy
10-17-2018, 04:27 PM
Surely you meant "itsy, bitsy, teeny, weeny, yellow polka dot bikini"?
LOL -- send an announcement so we can get some photographers and maybe even the press. LOLYes, that's what I meant! Whiskey...
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karostay
10-17-2018, 04:36 PM
Not all that long ago The Villages was The friendliest home town everyone would wave, nod ,smile,and be cheerful and in just few short years not so much
Entitlement mentality has taken hold sad to say
BK001
10-17-2018, 04:52 PM
Not all that long ago The Villages was The friendliest home town everyone would wave, nod ,smile,and be cheerful and in just few short years not so much
Entitlement mentality has taken hold sad to say
You may be right however, I don't think this outrageous behavior is common or even the norm. There are sooooo many other stories of inclusiveness, at least that has been my experience, (despite the fact that I'm from NY, LOL). In fact, I think it is so common that we take it for granted and only the aberrant experiences stand out.
We speak of the accident last Tuesday, but not the days without accidents. We speak of short pours, or poor service or meals that disappoint. Those experiences, understandably, are outside of our expectation so those are the ones we remember.
Ok,
Pollyanna signing off.
fw102807
10-17-2018, 05:03 PM
Looks like I will be going to the Chula Vista pool. I'm up for rattling their cage.:a040::MOJE_whot::a040::MOJE_whot::boom:
Because starting a fight with rude ignorant people is a good solution? My solution is ignore. BK is right we spend way too much time focused on the bad behavior when in my experience most people are quite nice.
BK001
10-17-2018, 05:23 PM
Ok - I jumped off my soapbox too soon ...
Further evidence, of The Villages still being "the friendliest hometown", is the fact that we repeatedly encourage newcomers and prospective buyers to go out to the squares, talk to people, ask them about the villages. We tell them that if they are lost, just whip out a map and expect for Villagers to stop and help (and they do). Or, in my case, in a spirit of helpfulness recommend they join TOTV to get the "scoop" from real people.
Surely we would not recommend that if we thought for a moment that they were going to hear various "war stories" of ill-treatment and rude people, and bad food, greedy developers and of course the ever-present dog poop! No sane person would give that advice if they thought so -- my guess is none or few do. I think collectively we are all proud of The Villages for one reason or another.
And a short personal story:
In April 2016 we moved to The Villages so it is just over two years. I find my sense of "awe' is lessening a little. When we first got here I could not stop admiring the fact that there is no graffiti, that people do smile and wave, that the flowers up and down 466 are beautiful, etc., etc., etc. But like I've heard about people who live with a beautiful sunset view, eventually they get used to it and it just simply stops registering on an emotional level. It's not the environment that has changed. But the participants in that environment. I've come to expect that my expectations are fulfilled, and, for the most part, they are. So what I will remember and feel emotionally charged about will be the exceptions.
rustyp
10-17-2018, 05:38 PM
Ok - I jumped off my soapbox too soon ...
Further evidence, of The Villages still being "the friendliest hometown", is the fact that we repeatedly encourage newcomers and prospective buyers to go out to the squares, talk to people, ask them about the villages. We tell them that if they are lost, just whip out a map and expect for Villagers to stop and help (and they do). Or, in my case, in a spirit of helpfulness recommend they join TOTV to get the "scoop" from real people.
Surely we would not recommend that if we thought for a moment that they were going to hear various "war stories" of ill-treatment and rude people, and bad food, and greedy developers. No sane person would give that advice.
And a short personal story:
In April 2016 we moved to The Villages so it is just over two years. I find my sense of "awe' is lessening a little. When we first got here I could not stop admiring the fact that there is no graffiti, that people do smile and wave, that the flowers up and down 466 are beautiful, etc., etc., etc. But like I've heard about people who live with a beautiful sunset view, eventually they get used to it and it just simply stops registering on an emotional level. It's not the environment that has changed. But the participants in that environment. I've come to expect that my expectations are fulfilled, and, for the most part, they are. So what I will remember and feel emotionally charged about will be the exceptions.
Imagine that hometown feeling dwindling if you have been here since 2005. Interesting enough in 2005 we were looking at a courtyard villa for sale by owner. I asked why would you be moving. Response was TV getting too big. When you went to the squares everyone knew each other. Now it is big enough that the "knuckleheads" can hide behind each other. As always the ying and the yang. Has lost a lot of luster for me also. Still have not found better but I never stop looking.
BK001
10-17-2018, 05:53 PM
Imagine that hometown feeling dwindling if you have been here since 2005. Interesting enough in 2005 we were looking at a courtyard villa for sale by owner. I asked why would you be moving. Response was TV getting too big. When you went to the squares everyone knew each other. Now it is big enough that the "knuckleheads" can hide behind each other. As always the ying and the yang. Has lost a lot of luster for me also. Still have not found better but I never stop looking.
And there's nothing wrong with "still looking". If I could find all that I have now but surrounded by tons of traditional, family-owned restaurants of all ethnic persuasions, that are close enough that they deliver or I can pick-up without driving 40 minutes to an hour round trip (I am married to a man who hates to dine out) I would be out of here in a Flash!
Let's make a pact, whoever finds Nirvana first, let the other one know, OK? But in the meantime, we will continue to enjoy this Paradise.
billethkid
10-17-2018, 05:57 PM
Going on 15 years and the "awe" has only heightened/increased/improved year by year.
Excluding the negatives the other 98% plus of us continue enjoying the lifestyle we sought in TV!!!!!
fw102807
10-17-2018, 06:03 PM
Let's make a pact, whoever finds Nirvana first, let the other one know, OK?
:bigbow:
Taltarzac725
10-17-2018, 06:03 PM
Going on 15 years and the "awe" has only heightened/increased/improved year by year.
Excluding the negatives the other 98% plus of us continue enjoying the lifestyle we sought in TV!!!!!
We have been here since June of 2005 and I still admire the vision of the Villages' developers as well as Talk Host in creating Talk of the Villages.
There does seem to be more difficult people vocalizing their various concerns whether valid or not. And now the malcontents seem to be organizing.
billethkid
10-17-2018, 06:12 PM
We have been here since June of 2005 and I still admire the vision of the Villages' developers as well as Talk Host in creating Talk of the Villages.
There does seem to be more difficult people vocalizing their various concerns whether valid or not. And now the malcontents seem to be organizing.
They aspire to hit 2%......if the 98% just ignores them the 2% will dwindle, go silent or away!!
BobnBev
10-17-2018, 07:08 PM
There are a lot of people here that need to be pistol whipped.
Regarding any comment by someone in a pool who requests that you dont use “their” pool, I would simply go up to them, apologize, and tell them..”I dont like to use “my” pool when I need to urinate frquently, like Im doing now.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a WINNER!!!:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_wh ot::MOJE_whot:
DonH57
10-17-2018, 07:26 PM
There are a lot of people here that need to be pistol whipped.
Regarding any comment by someone in a pool who requests that you dont use “their” pool, I would simply go up to them, apologize, and tell them..”I dont like to use “my” pool when I need to urinate frquently, like Im doing now.
LMAO. Funny. Good one!
retiredguy123
10-17-2018, 07:29 PM
People. They are the worst. Especially the nice ones.
BK001
10-17-2018, 07:32 PM
...TV getting too big. When you went to the squares everyone knew each other..
Could it be that as we get older and frailer, and yes, even pass on, many simply stop going to the squares? So there are fewer "old" faces to recognize and they are replaced by those younger or in better physical health.
fw102807
10-17-2018, 07:39 PM
Could it be that as we get older and frailer, and yes, even pass on, many simply stop going to the squares? So there are fewer "old" faces to recognize and they are replaced by those younger or in better physical health.
Haha
Nucky
10-17-2018, 09:28 PM
I have let The Villages change me. People who come to visit us have commented on it to my wife, is he sick or medicated? Her explanation is that it is this joint. The Serenity we have found here is priceless. I am cool calm and collected for the most part now. I'm under construction but from going from being upset by the time I got to work because a half hour ride took an hour and a half because of traffic to occasionally being inconvenienced has been a great transformation. We have friends who freak out about "THE BIRDS". I swear I don't get it not one bit. More great people but looking at them like being an inconvenience is a no go for me. As you can tell I we are still in love with our new HOME.
The really great thing about losing that edge that I had from living my entire life in a nut house is that when needed the old Habits can be summonsed it a minute. My lifelong saying is I don't have heart attacks, I give them. It's still true but I haven't had the need to call up that skill in almost 2 1/2 years. An Old Timer.
I told Mrs. Nucky to enjoy the sites up and down Morse and Buena Vista in the beginning because as time wore on it wouldn't be a thrill seeing the beautiful sites as it would become common. We still can't believe how nice it is so I was wrong.
NotGolfer
10-17-2018, 10:15 PM
You may be right however, I don't think this outrageous behavior is common or even the norm. There are sooooo many other stories of inclusiveness, at least that has been my experience, (despite the fact that I'm from NY, LOL). In fact, I think it is so common that we take it for granted and only the aberrant experiences stand out.
We speak of the accident last Tuesday, but not the days without accidents. We speak of short pours, or poor service or meals that disappoint. Those experiences, understandably, are outside of our expectation so those are the ones we remember.
Ok,
Pollyanna signing off.
Never thought my post would continue as it has...but what you say is correct and I so agree. I guess I was just shocked a bit by the behavior I spoke about as most folks I've encountered are friendly and courteous. Being rude in public isn't the way I was raised nor is it, I don't think by most of us. I love where we live and all that it has to offer. We only have today, yesterday is gone and we're not promised tomorrow---so I'd say let's just chill and enjoy what time we have while we're here. (speaking to the broader group and not you "Pollyanna")
jebartle
10-18-2018, 04:05 AM
Looks like I will be going to the Chula Vista pool. I'm up for rattling their cage.:a040::MOJE_whot::a040::MOJE_whot::boom:
If you go early, you will find Chula pool to be very welcoming the more the merrier.
rustyp
10-18-2018, 06:25 AM
Could it be that as we get older and frailer, and yes, even pass on, many simply stop going to the squares? So there are fewer "old" faces to recognize and they are replaced by those younger or in better physical health.
Highly likely when I pass on I won't be going to the squares anymore. Look at that. All I have to do is be a little patient and the chair saving problem will go away. WOAH what just happened? I'm now a happy person.
thelegges
10-18-2018, 06:38 AM
I am thinking as younger generations come here it will be a little different.
Hoping they have learned from the many anti bullying gatherings that have had to attend, will give them a better respect for others
fw102807
10-18-2018, 06:45 AM
Not everyone ages well. My dear sweet dad towards the end of his life became bitter and depressed and lashed out at all of his caregivers. No one knows what these people have been through or what they might be facing.
billethkid
10-18-2018, 08:40 AM
I am thinking as younger generations come here it will be a little different.
Hoping they have learned from the many anti bullying gatherings that have had to attend, will give them a better respect for others
Keep in mind we were all "the younger generation" when we moved here.
With the normal turnover...those moving or passing on...leaving....the people mix is pretty much the same.
Now the next generation of retirees will definitely bring a different view of a lot of things than those of the current generation.....much of which many of us do or would not support.
And so on!!
2BNTV
10-18-2018, 10:40 AM
"People are as happy as they make up their minds to be". A. Lincoln
"Some people bring sunshine into a room when they enter and some, when they leave".
They were fools before they met me and they will be still be fools when I leave.
I only have one word when someone is disagreeable, "NEXT".
"Life is too short to be too little"
jebartle
10-19-2018, 11:59 AM
Today Rio Grande pool closed ufn. So they arrived at Chula with a new attitude and many welcomes and good wishes from Chula gang, Yea. Happy ending we hope. Plus bag-pipe entertainment and cookies. Now how can you NOT be happy about THAT!
NotGolfer
10-19-2018, 12:29 PM
Today Rio Grande pool closed ufn. So they arrived at Chula with a new attitude and many welcomes and good wishes from Chula gang, Yea. Happy ending we hope. Plus bag-pipe entertainment and cookies. Now how can you NOT be happy about THAT!
Sometimes people have to "eat crow" and just chill and be nice (meaning the "interlopers" from Rio Grande pool). Sounds like y'all had a good time! :coolsmiley:
graciegirl
10-19-2018, 12:41 PM
Sometimes people have to "eat crow" and just chill and be nice (meaning the "interlopers" from Rio Grande pool). Sounds like y'all had a good time! :coolsmiley:
Every day when I read what you write here and on Facebook I find even more to treasure about you. In the face of Illness and sadness you are a testament to all you believe and an inspiration to those of us who know you.
marjie55
10-19-2018, 12:42 PM
I think she simply hates her life and shows that fact to everyone.
Barefoot
10-19-2018, 12:53 PM
I had the thought, but way too late that I should have re-parked my car and asked her if she needed help with taking her cart back. Kindness sometimes goes a long way. Yes, I did think of the possibility of dementia. My MIL, as she aged, lost her "filter" and said things that were very hurtful at times. I probably judged this woman and should have had some empathy for her.
Nice attitude. I agree that kindness goes a long way.
Some people are in pain and unable to recognize how bitter/angry/selfish they are coming off to others.:agree: We are blessed as we age if we're not in some type of emotional or physical pain.
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