Quarry blasting Fenney, cracked foundations?

[jrdonn]

I was told because of the quarry blasting in Sumpterville, that people in Fenney and nearby feel the blasts and that some foundations are cracking because of the blasts. Has anyone that lives there experienced any of this?

[Bogie Shooter]

Are you thinking of moving to Fenney?
BTW who told you this information.?

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Here is some info (https://tinyurl.com/y8mtl8x3)

[DonH57]

Shake, rattle, and roll fennyites.

[VillageIdiots]

Nope, felt several rumbles so far. Been here 6 months and haven't noticed so much as a grain of sand out of place or anything cracked.

[jrdonn]

Thank you, that explains some of what I heard.

[jrdonn]

Moving to McClure. A resident north of 466 had mentioned it to me.

[jrdonn]

Thanks.

[VillageIdiots]

This source is about as credible as CNN. Meaning not at all.

What do you mean? They quoted sources from facebook/internet. You can't put anything on the internet that isn't true - I saw that on a TV commercial once.

:popcorn:

I'm as concerned as anyone about potential damage. But I have yet to be presented with any facts that what we experience for a split second once in a while could cause any damage, or that it has already caused any damage. If someone finds a crack in something, that doesn't prove what the cause was. Lots of things can cause concrete to develop a crack.

[Goldwingnut]

Lots of people have lived around that mine area for decades, long before Fenney was even thought of, and there is little record of it complaints because of it. These mines are all over the state and do this blasting all the time.

Most of the noise generated about this issue can be traced back to and has been political by one of the candidates for CDD12, string the pot and to raise the ire of residents, and bring attention to themselves. Sadly, many residents have fallen for the rhetoric and think that a district supervisor can do something about it. They can't, the blasting issue is not even close to being in the jurisdiction of the CDD supervisor, neither is bringing in Costco, new restaurants, hospitals, control the rate of building homes, or any other commercial enterprises.

District supervisors can make sure the landscaping is taken care of, the retention ponds are repaired when needed, and can set policy for architectural review (once Fenney is eligible in about 4 years), not much more. Most can be a useful source of information and are accurate in with their information, most are, some are uninformed and appear to get their information from the rec center pool rumor mill and on-line sources.

The blasting and the mine are one of our neighbors, like having a train track or an airport nearby. Will it damage homes, highly unlikely, will it continue, beyond most of our remaining lifetimes most likely. Something to worry and lose sleep over, I wouldn't, the homes most affected have been built and sold and will become accustom to the weekly rumble in due time. Farther away the less likely you'll be to even notice.

What's next, being upset because the prison is located nearby?

Pour another class of wine and step into the pool, enjoy your retirement.

[vintageogauge]

We have lived in Fenney for 17 months. These blasts are once a month at the most and the equivalent of a truck running over a pothole in front of your house or a kid jumping off a bed in the upstairs of a 2 story house. They have been blasting in that quarry for 30 years and there are homes and businesses around them that have been there just as long and are still standing. There is no damage to foundations from these little jolts, our wall art doesn't even move when this happens. It's one heck of a lot better than worrying about sink holes like you have in the northern villages, none down here in the farm land. If you want to be free of sink holes come on down and look around south of 44. Enjoy nature and the peace and quiet that just doesn't exist north of here. Now, let the bashing begin from those who would like to be down here but just can't do it.

[Bogie Shooter]

Moving to McClure. A resident north of 466 had mentioned it to me.

Could he also be a bartender? North of 466, sour grapes.

[Joeg180]

Moving to McClure as well, not worried about the blasting or the prison. We have been told it is the fear of Fenney, just like the expansion beyond 441, 466, 466A, etc.

[Topspinmo]

We have lived in Fenney for 17 months. These blasts are once a month at the most and the equivalent of a truck running over a pothole in front of your house or a kid jumping off a bed in the upstairs of a 2 story house. They have been blasting in that quarry for 30 years and there are homes and businesses around them that have been there just as long and are still standing. There is no damage to foundations from these little jolts, our wall art doesn't even move when this happens. It's one heck of a lot better than worrying about sink holes like you have in the northern villages, none down here in the farm land. If you want to be free of sink holes come on down and look around south of 44. Enjoy nature and the peace and quiet that just doesn't exist north of here. Now, let the bashing begin from those who would like to be down here but just can't do it.

The land hasn’t been disturbed with construction yet and pressure from the retention pound haven’t ctreated leaks. IMO most sinkholes are actually man made ground collapses

[spring_chicken]

We have lived in Fenney for 17 months. These blasts are once a month at the most and the equivalent of a truck running over a pothole in front of your house or a kid jumping off a bed in the upstairs of a 2 story house. They have been blasting in that quarry for 30 years and there are homes and businesses around them that have been there just as long and are still standing. There is no damage to foundations from these little jolts, our wall art doesn't even move when this happens. It's one heck of a lot better than worrying about sink holes like you have in the northern villages, none down here in the farm land. If you want to be free of sink holes come on down and look around south of 44. Enjoy nature and the peace and quiet that just doesn't exist north of here. Now, let the bashing begin from those who would like to be down here but just can't do it.

You are the one who does the bashing with comments just like that. I can assure you that anyone who lives elsewhere in TV CAN move to Fenney if they want and this jealousy that is in you imagination is just that.

[ColdNoMore]

You are the one who does the bashing with comments just like that. I can assure you that anyone who lives elsewhere in TV CAN move to Fenney if they want and this jealousy that is in you imagination is just that.


:agree:

[graciegirl]

You are the one who does the bashing with comments just like that. I can assure you that anyone who lives elsewhere in TV CAN move to Fenney if they want and this jealousy that is in you imagination is just that.

I don't agree.

[vintageogauge]

You are the one who does the bashing with comments just like that. I can assure you that anyone who lives elsewhere in TV CAN move to Fenney if they want and this jealousy that is in you imagination is just that.

I don't agree either.

[CWGUY]

I don't agree.

:icon_wink: And I agree with you! :popcorn:

[twoplanekid]

:icon_wink: And I agree with you! :popcorn:

Reminds me of this 50's Air Force training video on the topic of missile guidance. Missile Guidance for Dummies (http://w3.uwyo.edu/~jimkirk/guidance.html)

classic :a040:

[Nucky]

I’m so confused! Are we still allowed to move down there or what? NOTHING else to worry about so cook up a good Quarry blasting dilemma. Can’t put in a slab or sidewalk or curb without the stone to bake the cake. Stone is a sorta important ingredient in Concrete. Just Saying.

[Topspinmo]

IMO Actually quarry blasting does register on earth quake meter. Usually around 2.0 in the area? The shock wave can cause ground shake and increase collapse over time if the underground structure is weak. Now with construction above and weight of retention Pond and leaks over time ground collapse’s could happen. So, time will tell if sinkhole problems will pop up in newly construction area.

IMO about every sinkhole in the villages can be traced to retention pond leaks, water drain pipes leaks, residential drainage problem, or just weak ground structure aggregated by years of ground water leakage.

Is this something to worry about? IMO 2 out of 10 on the worry meter. I also think it has no impact on purchasing house in that area. But, if you don’t like to be close to active quarry then don’t buy close and if you do don’t complain about after the fact.

All of this in my opinion of course.

[graciegirl]

I was told because of the quarry blasting in Sumpterville, that people in Fenney and nearby feel the blasts and that some foundations are cracking because of the blasts. Has anyone that lives there experienced any of this?

Three years ago you told the forum you were moving back to Cleveland.

Now you are wondering about cracked foundations in Fenney.

Are you thinking to move to Fenney?

[Bogie Shooter]

You are the one who does the bashing with comments just like that. I can assure you that anyone who lives elsewhere in TV CAN move to Fenney if they want and this jealousy that is in you imagination is just that.

I do not agree.

[VillageIdiots]

The concern this has morphed into in Fenney is the lack of disclosure by the developer prior to sale. Many have read about it elsewhere prior to buying, but I do not recall it being specifically disclosed to me during the sales process or the closing process. That leaves the question - "is it something the developer should have been required to disclose?", or "should it have been done as a practice of good ethics, but was not against any rules/laws not to disclose?". I'm not smart enough to know the answer and I'm lazy enough to not research it. There are enough people with their panties wadded up that it will come out in the wash one way or another. I haven't lost a minute's sleep over it and don't expect that I will.

[Bogie Shooter]

. "There are enough people with their panties wadded up that it will come out in the wash one way or another."
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[DangeloInspections]

For what it is worth, I have now done probably 100 inspections or more in Fenney. I have not noticed any increase in the number of slab cracks, foundation issues, etc, than I have in any other part of The Villages, and I have been inspecting in The Villages for years.

Does that mean there will never be any issues?? I have no idea. I do not own a crystal ball.

As to sinkholes, they could happen anywhere. I hope of course I never have one on my property, but I do not stay awake worrying about it. I would be more worried about driving in roundabouts than I do sinkholes.......(And by the way, there are no roundabouts in Fenney).....

I have found Fenney to have a different and very nice "Vibe". It is certainly thriving. The big trees, walk, etc, are very nice. I have not gone to the Grill yet.

Many folks love having the option of gas appliances there.

I am told that the folks who first bought there are enjoying a good amount of equity in their homes already. Once the infrastructure catches up there.....once they get some stores, etc, my guess is that prices will go up even more.

I think the future of the southern part of The Villages looks bright. Southern Oaks, West Lake, etc should be amazing and close to South Leesburg, etc. A new town square, etc.....In a few years Brownwood will be the new center of The Villages.

The Villages learns, adapts and constantly improves. This is what keeps it being a one of a kind amazing place.

Frank

[Arubagirl33]

The concern this has morphed into in Fenney is the lack of disclosure by the developer prior to sale. Many have read about it elsewhere prior to buying, but I do not recall it being specifically disclosed to me during the sales process or the closing process. That leaves the question - "is it something the developer should have been required to disclose?", or "should it have been done as a practice of good ethics, but was not against any rules/laws not to disclose?". I'm not smart enough to know the answer and I'm lazy enough to not research it. There are enough people with their panties wadded up that it will come out in the wash one way or another. I haven't lost a minute's sleep over it and don't expect that I will.


I’m happy for you, but I personally would be losing sleep. Let’s hear from everyone after they’ve been in their homes for more than a few years. South Florida has this exact issue and lawsuits pending. It sounds like the tremors can be felt stronger in different areas. Residents/Neighbors have run out of their homes in panic thinking it was an earthquake. Someone out there currently has structural damage. Kitchen glassware/China and wall hangings have rattled and moved during a blast. So....Just because you personally may not have experienced it, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
As far as the sinkholes are concerned....Two of The Villages three counties are on the Top 10 Sinkhole-Prone Counties in Florida. Marion & Lake. It’ll happen everywhere over time.

[perrjojo]

Many people are not accustomed to having concrete slab foundations. They crack.. it’s not a bad thing, it is just part of the natural earth movements. Can it it be a bad thing? Yes, but most cracks in the concrete are not a problem.

[Bogie Shooter]

I’m happy for you, but I personally would be losing sleep. Let’s hear from everyone after they’ve been in their homes for more than a few years. South Florida has this exact issue and lawsuits pending. It sounds like the tremors can be felt stronger in different areas. Residents/Neighbors have run out of their homes in panic thinking it was an earthquake. Someone out there currently has structural damage. Kitchen glassware/China and wall hangings have rattled and moved during a blast. So....Just because you personally may not have experienced it, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
As far as the sinkholes are concerned....Two of The Villages three counties are on the Top 10 Sinkhole-Prone Counties in Florida. Marion & Lake. It’ll happen everywhere over time.
Where are you getting all of your information about what is going on “out there”?

[Arubagirl33]

Where are you getting all of your information about what is going on “out there”?

Due Diligence!! Husband wanted to build in Marsh Bend or Lake Okahumpka. I’ve been a part timer in TV for five years and I have friends that have moved to Fenney, Desoto and McClure. One of them is actually selling a home that’s less than a year old.

[manaboutown]

Many people are not accustomed to having concrete slab foundations. They crack.. it’s not a bad thing, it is just part of the natural earth movements. Can it it be a bad thing? Yes, but most cracks in the concrete are not a problem.

If the process is rushed, the concrete not properly prepared or watered prior to pouring after it is starting to set, or not correctly allowed to cure, cracks will occur.

[graciegirl]

If the process is rushed, the concrete not properly prepared or watered prior to pouring after it is starting to set, or not correctly allowed to cure, cracks will occur.

Again, I point out that you don't own here or live here and I say that Frank DeAngelo who is a qualified and well trusted home inspector who has been used by many of us has weighed in. I don't have a dog in this fight other than it really ****es me off when people say things about a new area that are negative. I don't know if they are jealous or what. When we were building our current home just off 466 eight years ago, people on this forum said that they would never want to live here because of the road noise. Our homes here are so convenient to everything and the values continue to increase. Real people live in Fenney, they love it there and do not need to read these stupid rumors and nasty comments about the place they have chosen to call home. Stop being nasty just for the sake of it. (not you Manabouttown, but the other folks who keep ranting)

I am angry and depressed at the world this morning and need coffee. Sorry gang.

It's gonna be a beautiful day in The Villages.

[graciegirl]

Yes, the candidate in question is misleading residents into thinking that she will fix the blasting issue once elected to the CDD.

Fortunately, we have a better choice in Andrew Bilardello who understands what a CDD supervisor can and cannot do.

AH HAH. So this issue is at the crux of the debate. Well dingy dam doo dah.

Dear FenneyGuy. I sure hope you continue to enjoy your home in your lovely village. We love to drive around your beautiful area when we (frequently) go to the Fenney grill. (Which we are going to do tonight)

[FenneyGuy]

AH HAH. So this issue is at the crux of the debate. Well dingy dam doo dah.

Dear FenneyGuy. I sure hope you continue to enjoy your home in your lovely village. We love to drive around your beautiful area when we (frequently) go to the Fenney grill. (Which we are going to do tonight)

Yes, Gracie, we do have a choice. I often go to the Fenney Grill for Happy Hour. If you're there, look for me. Just ask for Bob.

[Bogie Shooter]

If the process is rushed, the concrete not properly prepared or watered prior to pouring after it is starting to set, or not correctly allowed to cure, cracks will occur.

Again, I point out that you don't own here or live here and I say that Frank DeAngelo who is a qualified and well trusted home inspector who has been used by many of us has weighed in.
I agree with gracie, what is the benefit of your implied negative post?

[twoplanekid]

Others in Florida have blasting issues -> White Rock Quarries' blasting in Miami bothers residents | Miami Herald (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article187589028.html)

Article covers both sides. Sounds like these people have a much larger boom problem.

[biker1]

Pretty much any large expanse of concrete will crack.

If the process is rushed, the concrete not properly prepared or watered prior to pouring after it is starting to set, or not correctly allowed to cure, cracks will occur.

[manaboutown]

Why Concrete Cracks - The Concrete Network (https://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/concrete_cracks/preventing_concrete_cracks.htm)

much the same explanation 5 REASONS WHY CONCRETE CRACKS - WiseCracks.com (http://www.wisecracks.com/5-reasons-concrete-cracks/)

and most comprehensively CFA: Concrete Cracking Overview (http://www.cfawalls.org/foundations/cracking.htm)

[fw102807]

Pretty much any large expanse of concrete will crack.

That's ridiculous. I have seen many very large expanses of concrete old and new without a crack anywhere.

[thelegges]

It’s so funny how some want to draw a line between the new villages and old. Why do people care where someone buys their home, telling them what a big mistake they made, and their stupidity in doing so.

It’s not new, issue, when we bought in pennacamp we heard same things, end of the earth, what were we thinking.

News flash very few hate where they bought their home, in TV, despite what Some have have to say, and if they choose to sell, it can be done without much effort.

If those opposed to buying in Fenney and the new parts could explain why it effects them, and why you are so against those that do. It’s not your money, enjoy where you chose to live, and let’s welcome the newcomers wherever their home might be.

[Bogie Shooter]

This Fenney bashing and this thread is getting old...……..

[Nucky]

This Fenney bashing and this thread is getting old...……..

You are absolutely correct. I would imagine if all that people who mentioned the prison mentioned the prisons Superstar is gone the property values should skyrocket. Fenney is fantastic. Period.

[fw102807]

It’s so funny how some want to draw a line between the new villages and old. Why do people care where someone buys their home, telling them what a big mistake they made, and their stupidity in doing so.

It’s not new, issue, when we bought in pennacamp we heard same things, end of the earth, what were we thinking.

News flash very few hate where they bought their home, in TV, despite what Some have have to say, and if they choose to sell, it can be done without much effort.

If those opposed to buying in Fenney and the new parts could explain why it effects them, and why you are so against those that do. It’s not your money, enjoy where you chose to live, and let’s welcome the newcomers wherever their home might be.

:agree: I totally don't understand why people who are happy where they are would want to comment about where others choose to buy.