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champion6
11-22-2018, 08:50 AM
Which numbers are you going to believe?
From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."
<snip>
"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.
"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."
<snip>
"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."
From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.
"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.
"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."
Kerry Azz
11-22-2018, 08:59 AM
Which numbers are you going to believe?
From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."
<snip>
"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.
"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."
"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."
From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.
"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.
"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper
pbkmaine
11-22-2018, 09:24 AM
It depends on what you want in a newspaper. It gives me a lot of information about people and events here and I use the ads all the time. For me, it’s quite useful.
gatorbill1
11-22-2018, 10:31 AM
Not a "real" newspaper - it is CHEAP
biker1
11-22-2018, 10:46 AM
Simply not true. They publish a number of national news articles off the wires. I guess you aren't interested in national news. They have a pretty good sports section including coverage of the local sports teams. The Friday automotive section is pretty good. They publish a number of local articles about The Villages each week. Granted, some of these are "developer focused". Most of the material is available through other on-lines sources but many people prefer to read on paper and not on a computer monitor.
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper
biker1
11-22-2018, 10:50 AM
I wonder how many are daily subscriptions delivered to homes within The Villages. There are about 60,000 homes in The Villages.
Which numbers are you going to believe?
From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."
<snip>
"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.
"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."
<snip>
"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."
From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.
"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.
"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."
Bogie Shooter
11-22-2018, 11:35 AM
Which numbers are you going to believe?
From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."
<snip>
"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.
"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."
<snip>
"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."
From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.
"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.
"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."
Not sure why it makes any difference.
Jayhawk
11-22-2018, 11:40 AM
I like the paper. I subscribe. It feels like a real newspaper to me.
Of course, I'm not sure what a fake newspaper feels like.
vintageogauge
11-22-2018, 11:49 AM
I enjoy it, read it every day, like to read what's going on locally, sports, a little national and statewide news, nice break from cable news.
BobnBev
11-22-2018, 11:59 AM
I like the paper. I subscribe. It feels like a real newspaper to me.
Of course, I'm not sure what a fake newspaper feels like.
It must be a real newspaper, the ink rubs off on my hands.:MOJE_whot::1rotfl:
justjim
11-22-2018, 01:21 PM
From that “layed back”, little known and underestimated Philosopher Justjim: The Daily Sun “Is what it is”. As far as circulation, it likely goes up in Season and a bit down during the summer. The Developers recent “take over” hopefully will improve their digital paper for those of us who go on “vacation” during the summer months.
Buffalo Jim
11-22-2018, 02:31 PM
The " other site " which claims to be a daily news source has been stirring up this issue [ DS circulation] recently , wonder why ?
Yet the " other site " does not disclose its circulation , its ownership , its editors or its publishers , wonder why ?
SFSkol
11-22-2018, 02:42 PM
The " other site " which claims to be a daily news source has been stirring up this issue [ DS circulation] recently , wonder why ?
Yet the " other site " does not disclose its circulation , its ownership , its editors or its publishers , wonder why ?
I don't believe that online news sources are required to publically disclose their circulation numbers. At least not yet....
courtyard
11-22-2018, 03:32 PM
Just one of the reasons I unsubscribed was: THE PRINT WAS TOO SMALL TO READ.
Bjeanj
11-22-2018, 03:43 PM
Which numbers are you going to believe?
From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."
<snip>
"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.
"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."
<snip>
"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."
From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.
"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.
"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."
I don’t know why you care, or really want to know. I know for a fact that advertisers rely on audited statements of circulation, breaking out between paid and unpaid (complimentary). Advertising decisions are made based on circulation and readership demographics.
Circulation can vary quite a bit, and as a business decision, a newspaper tries to increase its circulation prior to an audit. Makes sense to me to do so.
To me, your question sounds like you are skeptical of the numbers. If you care so much, request a copy of the most recent audit.
queasy27
11-22-2018, 05:49 PM
It doesn't surprise me that business competitors take potshots at each other.
I'm curious about the Sun's claim of being fifth largest in the state. This is from several years ago but the Sun would have to almost triple its stated figures to be fifth.
St. Petersburg Times – 239,684
Orlando Sentinel – 172,271
The Miami Herald – 151,612
South Florida Sun Sentinel – 149,892
The Tampa Tribune – 145,045
The Florida Times-Union – 108,926
The Palm Beach Post – 100,830
Sarasota Herald-Tribune – 66,352
The News-Journal – 63,902
Florida Today – 60,165
Other sites list the top 10 in order but don't provide circulation figures. This site (https://www.mondotimes.com/newspapers/usa/florida-newspaper-circulation.html) has it at #17 and this (https://www.agilitypr.com/resources/top-media-outlets/top-10-florida-daily-newspapers-by-circulation/) one has it at #10
eweissenbach
11-22-2018, 06:08 PM
Both numbers and conclusions can be correct. One is reporting the monthly circulation, the other the circulation for a year. The "Happy Paper" is good for what it is - local news (mostly good), human interest stories, local sports, open house information, and coupons for local restaurants and golf courses. It is not the New York Times, but it is worth the price of a subscription.
JoMar
11-22-2018, 06:10 PM
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper
Exactly what do you mean by real news.....the paper I get has National, International, local and regional news. The other question is where do you now get your real news?
NotGolfer
11-22-2018, 09:01 PM
Both numbers and conclusions can be correct. One is reporting the monthly circulation, the other the circulation for a year. The "Happy Paper" is good for what it is - local news (mostly good), human interest stories, local sports, open house information, and coupons for local restaurants and golf courses. It is not the New York Times, but it is worth the price of a subscription.
I agree! So many seem to be looking for a conspiracy or something to stir the pot over. We like The Sun for exactly what eweissenbach posted!!
Buffalo Jim
11-22-2018, 09:42 PM
I don't believe that online news sources are required to publically disclose their circulation numbers. At least not yet....
Not saying that they are required to do so .
However , given that their primary focus seems to be on
The Developer , issues within this community and The Daily Sun it seems to be unprofessional that they do not disclose
who they are as any print publication would .
Their primary MO is to stir things up such that many of their " readers " get online and fight with one another .
So what are they hiding ?
Two Bills
11-23-2018, 04:24 AM
Hope they sort this out soon, regarding circulation.
I haven't been able to sleep for weeks worrying about it!:icon_wink:
Spoiler
11-23-2018, 05:17 AM
Hope they sort this out soon, regarding circulation.
I haven't been able to sleep for weeks worrying about it!:icon_wink:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
graciegirl
11-23-2018, 09:37 AM
It doesn't surprise me that business competitors take potshots at each other.
I'm curious about the Sun's claim of being fifth largest in the state. This is from several years ago but the Sun would have to almost triple its stated figures to be fifth.
St. Petersburg Times – 239,684
Orlando Sentinel – 172,271
The Miami Herald – 151,612
South Florida Sun Sentinel – 149,892
The Tampa Tribune – 145,045
The Florida Times-Union – 108,926
The Palm Beach Post – 100,830
Sarasota Herald-Tribune – 66,352
The News-Journal – 63,902
Florida Today – 60,165
Other sites list the top 10 in order but don't provide circulation figures. This site (https://www.mondotimes.com/newspapers/usa/florida-newspaper-circulation.html) has it at #17 and this (https://www.agilitypr.com/resources/top-media-outlets/top-10-florida-daily-newspapers-by-circulation/) one has it at #10
I just read yesterday, cannot remember where, that it had the third largest distribution in Florida. (After Tampa Bay Times and Miami Sun Sentinel)
justjim
11-23-2018, 10:40 AM
It is well known newspapers across the United States are “Struggling”. Small papers have closed, consolidated or reduced publishing days. Even large well known papers are having circulation and “cost” issues. Younger Americans have gone digital. We are “Old school” and enjoy reading The Daily Sun in print as we nurse a couple cups of coffee and eat our yogurt. We get digital news from several sources including our former hometown newspaper but nothing in our opinion beats a cup of coffee and the local newspaper in print.
graciegirl
11-23-2018, 10:56 AM
It is well known newspapers across the United States are “Struggling”. Small papers have closed, consolidated or reduced publishing days. Even large well known papers are having circulation and “cost” issues. Younger Americans have gone digital. We are “Old school” and enjoy reading The Daily Sun in print as we nurse a couple cups of coffee and eat our yogurt. We get digital news from several sources including our former hometown newspaper but nothing in our opinion beats a cup of coffee and the local newspaper in print.
Amen.
Investment Painting Contractors
11-23-2018, 10:59 AM
Mary and I are thankful that we didn't have to worry about the circulation on the sun on Thanksgiving.
simpkinp
11-23-2018, 06:15 PM
I enjoy reading my newspaper in the morning. For years I’ve read the morning paper at night when I got home from work. The first thing I look for in the morning is my paper and my cup of coffee. That’s the reward for working all those years. I save enough on the coupons in stores and of dinner specials too easily offset the price of the newspaper
tophcfa
11-23-2018, 06:30 PM
It is well known newspapers across the United States are “Struggling”. Small papers have closed, consolidated or reduced publishing days. Even large well known papers are having circulation and “cost” issues. Younger Americans have gone digital. We are “Old school” and enjoy reading The Daily Sun in print as we nurse a couple cups of coffee and eat our yogurt. We get digital news from several sources including our former hometown newspaper but nothing in our opinion beats a cup of coffee and the local newspaper in print.
I absolutely agree with the above post. I hate reading didgital news, nothing like going out to the birdcage with a cup of coffee, putting on my cheaters, and reading an old fashion newspaper. I don't like reading a paper that is not actually on paper! Pretty soon, actual news printed on paper will go the way of blockbuster video rentals. The Daily Sun will be one of the last real newspapers to disappear, because of the demographics of the Villages as well as the circulation penetration and associated advertising revenue. Where we also live, up north, the price of printed newspapers has tripled in the last couple of years. The publishers are trying to shoehorn everyone into subscribing didgitaly. Not me, I would rather cancel. We always look forward to reading the very affordable and reliable Daily Sun when we are lucky enough to get to our Villages home.
eweissenbach
11-23-2018, 08:22 PM
I absolutely agree with the above post. I hate reading didgital news, nothing like going out to the birdcage with a cup of coffee, putting on my cheaters, and reading an old fashion newspaper. I don't like reading a paper that is not actually on paper! Pretty soon, actual news printed on paper will go the way of blockbuster video rentals. The Daily Sun will be one of the last real newspapers to disappear, because of the demographics of the Villages as well as the circulation penetration and associated advertising revenue. Where we also live, up north, the price of printed newspapers has tripled in the last couple of years. The publishers are trying to shoehorn everyone into subscribing didgitaly. Not me, I would rather cancel. We always look forward to reading the very affordable and reliable Daily Sun when we are lucky enough to get to our Villages home.
I have subscribed to the Kansas City Star online for about ten years, ever since they quit delivering daily to my rural lake home. I pay 99 cents per month and I get the paper on my laptop or Ipad in the same format as on paper. I get it the same whether I am in The Villages, in Kansas City, or on vacation elsewhere. Last week my wife asked me to pick up a print version of the Sunday paper because she wanted the ads. I took a paper to the cashier and almost feinted when it rung up at four dollars. I asked the cashier if that was right and then I looked at the masthead and saw it was. No wonder the printed newspapers are losing circulation between raising prices and curtailing their delivery routes. I have become a happy digital subscriber.
circletrack
11-24-2018, 01:15 AM
The New York Times did a piece on the Sun’s rising circulation a few months back:
Print Is Dead? Not Here - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/business/the-villages-newspaper.html)
I think I believe them a little more than villages online news and their repeated pot shots at the Sun.
champion6
11-24-2018, 08:41 AM
The New York Times did a piece on the Sun’s rising circulation a few months back:
Print Is Dead? Not Here - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/business/the-villages-newspaper.html)
I think I believe them a little more than villages online news and their repeated pot shots at the Sun.
:agree:
JoMar
11-24-2018, 10:46 AM
I have subscribed to the Kansas City Star online for about ten years, ever since they quit delivering daily to my rural lake home. I pay 99 cents per month and I get the paper on my laptop or Ipad in the same format as on paper. I get it the same whether I am in The Villages, in Kansas City, or on vacation elsewhere. Last week my wife asked me to pick up a print version of the Sunday paper because she wanted the ads. I took a paper to the cashier and almost feinted when it rung up at four dollars. I asked the cashier if that was right and then I looked at the masthead and saw it was. No wonder the printed newspapers are losing circulation between raising prices and curtailing their delivery routes. I have become a happy digital subscriber.
I'm also a digital subscriber for the paper up north.....but, it's not the same as having newsprint in my hands. I enjoy sitting at the counter for breakfast, or on the lanai or under a tree and reading The Sun. My question, I assume you told your wife, by decree, there was no way she was getting the ads? Of course I assume you could have visited your neighbors and get theirs before it gets recycled.
Fraugoofy
11-24-2018, 03:07 PM
Newspapers are like books and phone books. Paper versions are on their way out...
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eweissenbach
11-24-2018, 03:16 PM
I'm also a digital subscriber for the paper up north.....but, it's not the same as having newsprint in my hands. I enjoy sitting at the counter for breakfast, or on the lanai or under a tree and reading The Sun. My question, I assume you told your wife, by decree, there was no way she was getting the ads? Of course I assume you could have visited your neighbors and get theirs before it gets recycled.
I hear you, I prefer the paper version (my best friend is the retired executive director of the Missouri Press Association), however I read it on my Ipad which is lightweight and I can easily take to the deck or lanai.
That along with the convenience of taking with me wherever I go makes it a no brainer for me. Oh, and the cost!
ejgivens
11-26-2018, 07:57 AM
I love it, enjoy the relaxing time reading the paper. Great sports and local news.
Rango
11-26-2018, 08:31 AM
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
Proslayer
11-26-2018, 08:44 AM
Who Cares what the numbers are? You read it or you dont?
CWGUY
11-26-2018, 08:53 AM
Who Cares what the numbers are? You read it or you dont?
:icon_wink: I'm thinking you care if you pay to advertise in it.
Other than that I agree with you. :read: I read it...... and nobody puts a gun to my head.
Rwirish
11-26-2018, 09:00 AM
Who cares what numbers are correct?
natalierp
11-26-2018, 10:02 AM
Some of you say it offers no real news, if you want all the negative stories get The Village News that has all the crime stories the complete opposite of The Daily Sun.
acstover
11-26-2018, 10:05 AM
It depends on what you want in a newspaper. It gives me a lot of information about people and events here and I use the ads all the time. For me, it’s quite useful.
I agree. It's informative, and I enjoy reading it at breakfast. If I'm in the mood, I Sometimes do the crossword puzzle. It's worth the pennies a day I pay.
refeik
11-26-2018, 11:00 AM
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper
I totally agree. When my subscription expires, I am finished with the Daily Sun. Politically, it is extremely biased.
thetruth
11-26-2018, 11:23 AM
Which numbers are you going to believe?
From the Online News site, Oct. 2, 2018:
"A publisher's statement printed in Tuesday's edition of The Villages Daily Sun shows the newspaper's circulation has dipped."
<snip>
"The 'Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation' appeared in 6-point type buried in the back of Tuesday's Sports section.
"It stated the newspaper's daily circulation as of Sept. 26 is 43,610. The publisher's statement from Sept. 25, 2016 indicated a daily circulation of 44,936. The publisher's statement from Oct. 1, 2014 indicated a daily circulation of 43,938."
<snip>
"Many of the Daily Sun copies that are counted as paid circulation aren't going to homes, but rather are complimentary copies made available through the sales centers and businesses such as Citizens First Bank."
From The Villages Daily Sun, Nov. 21, 2018:
"This week the Daily Sun marked its 21st consecutive year of circulation growth as verified by the Alliance for Audited Media, the industry standard for ensuring transparency among media companies and trust among advertisers.
"The Daily Sun is now the fifth largest newspaper in Florida, behind only the Tampa Bay Times, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Orlando Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post.
"The growth news comes while online sites struggle to win over subscribers and advertisers. The Daily Sun maintains a 92 percent daily market penetration, and 97 percent of residents read the newspaper at least once each week."
Quoted circulation figures are more important to advertisers than to readers. The numbers are audited by independent firms. Audit Bureau of Circulation is one of them. More readers, of the type you are trying to sell is important when a company decides where to spend their advertising dollars.
Readers, is another fuzzy number How many people read that magazine in a doctor's waiting room. hair cutting place etc.
As to on line magazines. Due to cost of printing, mailing etc and the fact that people have shown a willingness to read publications they are expanding rapidly. I think I heard that Condi Nast has decided to no longer PRINT GLAMOUR MAGAZINE and to supply it on line only. Interesting to me as about a year ago the PRINTED the biggest issue in their history.
FOR ME-I deal with what is not what should be.
Bucco
11-26-2018, 12:21 PM
I totally agree. When my subscription expires, I am finished with the Daily Sun. Politically, it is extremely biased.
It is, and frankly does not cover news that "it" does not like...
HOWEVER, not a reason to be "finished" with the Daily Sun...It is what it is, and a great local paper which I enjoy reading daily. I do not expect national news and thus get it elsewhere but I do enjoy the local and have for years.
OhioBuckeye
11-26-2018, 12:28 PM
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper
You're exactly right! Basicly I dropped the paper too because I think it's about all advertisements for TV. You could take the news they do have in it & they could put it all on 3 or 4 pages. The local news they put in it is mostly old news, 3 to 6 months old. I just got tired of reading old news & advertisements for something I don't use or never will use. But you can't beat the price! But when I do buy a paper, I buy 2 different days that I like, 1 of them is Fridays.
THUNDERCHIEF
11-26-2018, 01:20 PM
What difference does it make which number is right?
yesi3putt2
11-26-2018, 01:53 PM
It depends on what you want in a newspaper. It gives me a lot of information about people and events here and I use the ads all the time. For me, it’s quite useful.
I like it 222...not a real news freak but enjoy the local update stuff..I cut the ads 222..and the paper pays for it's self buy what I save using the ads..win...win..
manaboutown
11-26-2018, 02:31 PM
I love the Daily Sun for it’s local news, upbeat style and solid unbiased reporting of the facts unlike the propaganda organs of mainstream media.
NotGolfer
11-26-2018, 02:43 PM
I was thinking about the comments on this thread and have some thoughts. How many of the folks here once lived in a metro-area city? IF you're equating The Daily Sun to what you once read...then there's no comparision. To that I'll agree! BUT if you lived in a small town---it's similar to the papers from there. Homey, full of town-"news" and happenings with "some" of the other stuff sprinkled in. Years ago the local "paper" we got was a weekly and the "news" was about all the local folks and their social comings and goings. Imagine reading about stopping in for a coffee and chat as if it were a land-mark happening!! As for the radio---we listen 1st thing in the morning to catch what Larry and Jerry have to say. Generally we turn it off around 9 or 10 as we get into our day. It's really not much different than the stations from the smaller towns we lived in up north. Though up there you'd have "party-line" where people called in things "for sale" etc. They'd even share recipes. It's a free country (so far)---we can subscribe to whatever publication we want (either hard-print or internet) AND we can also listen to whatever we care to.
mollyb
11-26-2018, 04:03 PM
The Sun publishes no real news at all, I signed up for a one year subscription and after a few months realized it truly wasn’t a newspaper. So I started giving it to my neighbor. It’s worthless and not anything of value is printed on the paper it’s a waste of paper
House organ....
Investment Painting Contractors
11-26-2018, 04:44 PM
House organ....
What does this mean???? I know I'm getting old but I'm TOTALY CONFUSED.
Ladygolfer93
11-26-2018, 05:26 PM
I guess I am a slow learner, lol, I signed up and paid for an entire year (price seemed reasonable enough), and slowly started throwing it away without even taking out of plastic sleeve (a VERY thoughtful way to deliver). Didn't want a diet of "bad" news, but, realized quickly it is not a "news" paper at all, but an very slick, and "happy" advertisement for he development. Slow learner because 4 or 5 years later I tired it AGAIN ! No complaints, I am the one who chose to waste the money, and THEN, knowing what I way buying, did it again. What is that they say about the definition insanity ? That doing the same thing over and over and expecting...….things to change. Thankfully a neighbor gave me a tip about an online news site which, together with the Orlando paper, and Talk of the Villages keeps me (and others l assume) from being completely ignorant about the important news. Sinkholes for example ?
greg.turay
11-26-2018, 09:06 PM
I agree. It's informative, and I enjoy reading it at breakfast. If I'm in the mood, I Sometimes do the crossword puzzle. It's worth the pennies a day I pay.
Plenty of national news short stories and lots of happy information. I am in a place with internet to get all the news I want and the daily sun in a refreshing publication with adequate news and plenty of local ads. I heard the developer just took over the publishing. Let’s hope the Sun doesn’t go down hill. I like it the way it is.
KEP721
11-26-2018, 09:12 PM
I enjoy the paper very much. I spend most of my time in New York. The news in NY is a constant barrage of tragic events and cynical editorials. The newspapers in New York make me feel as if they are shouting at me . I’m older now and appreciate quiet . Be thankful for a community minded paper that provides uplifting and heart warming stories. It’s soothing to know they’re out there . As stated, I enjoy reading the paper.... when I am fortunate enough to be in The Villages, Imake my morning coffee, sit back, put my feet up and see what’s happening in the area of my beloved get away. It’s this lady’s opinion that the “Daily Sun” Is doing exactly what it is meant to do.
circletrack
11-26-2018, 11:08 PM
You're exactly right! Basicly I dropped the paper too because I think it's about all advertisements for TV. You could take the news they do have in it & they could put it all on 3 or 4 pages. The local news they put in it is mostly old news, 3 to 6 months old. I just got tired of reading old news & advertisements for something I don't use or never will use. But you can't beat the price! But when I do buy a paper, I buy 2 different days that I like, 1 of them is Fridays.
3 to six months old? Really? Are we reading the same Sun local section? Mine has event previews and reviews for things happening each week. Maybe sometimes the weekend events run a few days later. 3 months is a huge exaggeration.
Papillons
11-26-2018, 11:36 PM
Look at most newspapers these days -- they're shells of what they used to be after years of downsizing -- and you'll gain some appreciation for the Daily Sun. It's not a Pulitzer Prize winner, but it's never claimed to be. It's never been a secret that it exists to lure homebuyers to The Villages, so no, you won't find much "bad" news. But it is a sizable, vibrant paper with top-notch design and photography. The news sections are bigger than what you find in major metro papers. The sports section apparently has decent deadlines and gets in scores from almost every pro and college game in the Eastern and Central time zones, which is no longer the case with most papers on the East Coast (and important to me as a sports fan). It has travel, auto and home/garden sections, which have been eliminated by most other papers in cost-cutting moves. If you want to know where and when to go to a club meeting or read about someone who is doing great work in the community, it's in the Daily Sun. If you want breathless reporting on Stormy Daniels or Robert Mueller ... that's what CNN is for.
As for reported circulation decline, it's my understanding that the online publication's recent coverage is being guided largely by an ex-Daily Sun executive who moved to the "competition" a few months ago and has no love for his former employer. So maybe the report is accurate, or maybe we need to consider the source.
Bogie Shooter
11-27-2018, 02:44 PM
You're exactly right! Basicly I dropped the paper too because I think it's about all advertisements for TV. You could take the news they do have in it & they could put it all on 3 or 4 pages. The local news they put in it is mostly old news, 3 to 6 months old. I just got tired of reading old news & advertisements for something I don't use or never will use. But you can't beat the price! But when I do buy a paper, I buy 2 different days that I like, 1 of them is Fridays.
Maybe you will find a local paper to your liking back in Ohio.
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