Do we have Ocean-friendly restaurants in the Villages?

[jebartle]

Too many pictures of our ocean abuse. What can we do to in courage this locally.

[graciegirl]

I don't know.

Let me ask a rhetorical question that is close to MY heart.

Do we do all we can to encourage vaccination?

[manaboutown]

Well I use the restrooms on shore and do not pee in the sea.

[Two Bills]

Never seen the Ocean in any of the local restaurants, so not sure if they are received in a friendly manner.
The fish is very nice, and there was no plastic on the plates.:icon_wink:

[aninjamom]

I would think the local steak places are mostly "ocean friendly". Cow friendly, not so much.

[jebartle]

I would think the local steak places are mostly "ocean friendly". Cow friendly, not so much.

Good one, you get 5 points for that one, giggle! Just wondering about plastic found on our shores.
Would love return to bio-degradables again!

[spring_chicken]

Ok, I'll bite.
What exactly is a restaurant in TV going to do to harm the ocean?

[Barefoot]

Too many pictures of our ocean abuse. What can we do to in courage this locally.I agree, it's disgusting to see pictures of our ocean abuse.
People justify the use of water bottles by saying that they are recycled.
I like to think that all recycled bottles are made into carryalls.
I'm not sure about that; a lot of plastic seems to end up in the ocean. :shrug:
If water bottles aren't recycled, would discontinuing their use be a good start?

[Aloha1]

Keep in mind that, as with CO2 emissions, most of the ocean trash we see comes from other countries.

[perrjojo]

Keep in mind that, as with CO2 emissions, most of the ocean trash we see comes from other countries.
Very true. Turners in Leesburg doesn’t offer straws.

[dillywho]

I agree, it's disgusting to see pictures of our ocean abuse.
People justify the use of water bottles by saying that they are recycled.
I like to think that all recycled bottles are made into carryalls.
I'm not sure about that; a lot of plastic seems to end up in the ocean. :shrug:
If water bottles aren't recycled, would discontinuing their use be a good start?

It is a people problem....too lazy to use the trash receptacles. If they ban plastic bottles, then you will have glass bottles getting broken all over the beaches, etc. No more going barefoot, Barefoot.:duck:

[Taltarzac725]

It is a people problem....too lazy to use the trash receptacles. If they ban plastic bottles, then you will have glass bottles getting broken all over the beaches, etc. No more going barefoot, Barefoot.:duck:

Never underestimate the ingenuity of people to come up with some kind of solution especially if there is a huge demand for one. Ooho: The Eco-Friendly Substitute to Plastic Bottles -Prescouter - Custom Intelligence, On-Demand (https://www.prescouter.com/2017/06/ooho-substitute-plastic-bottles/)

[jebartle]

Doggie bags and fast food are killers. My dog would miss his snacks for sure. Capt. D's uses a lot of paper products in their dine-in, can't think of any others. We never use straws at home, so we decline any straws when out.

[JoMar]

There isn't a huge effort in TV to recycle. Drive around on recycle days and notice the number of driveways that only have one garbage bag. Sit a postal station and watch the people sort their mail in their car and throw what they don't want in the trash instead of taking home and recycling, count how many people take reusable bags to the grocery store and how many take their groceries home in plastic. While it may make us feel good to go after the popular issue of the day, it seems many can preach but not practice. For those that recycle at home, use reusable bags at the grocery and throw their junk mail in recycle bins at home thank you for your contribution. For those that don't, please consider the options.

[aninjamom]

Good one, you get 5 points for that one, giggle! Just wondering about plastic found on our shores.
Would love return to bio-degradables again!


Why the concern about restaurants in TV specifically? I would imagine the 100,000+ people living here would be a much bigger issue. We personally recycle more than we throw away every week. Perhaps you would like to start a local awareness campaign, since this is what concerns you the most?

[ColdNoMore]

It has a happy ending.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MPHbpmP6_I

[spring_chicken]

Since the OP didn't answer the question, I'll assume that the original post was only intended to drag up the greenie debate for the 2nd or 3rd time this week.

[TheWarriors]

And let’s not forget about all the golfers hitting plastic balls into all of the ponds, when will it stop, please do it for the children 😂

[tophcfa]

Not really sure what this thread is even about? I am about the biggest lover of the ocean you will ever find. Scuba dive, deep sea fish, swim daily, and eat a very dominant seafood diet. My friends tell me that I should have been born a fish instead of a human? How does the OP blame the restaurants in the Villages for not being Ocean friendly? The restaurants in the Villages are about 1 1/2 hour form either coast of Florida and there are very few that even serve seafood (at least decent seafood). Is this another plastic straw rant?

[diane reynolds]

What you can do as a consumer is to copy down the requirements for an Ocean Friendly Restaurant, and then ask your waiter if the restaurant complies with any of the criteria. Tell them you want to support places of business who care about the environment. For yourself, do not take straws or to-go boxes. Bring your own container to restaurants for left over food. Never use a plastic water bottle. Don't ask for water at a restaurant and then not drink it. Look for ways to reduce waste. There are hundreds of things you as an individual and a person can do. The biggest thing would be to quit using pesticides on your lawn and replace turf with groundcover and plants which are native to FLorida.

[jebartle]

Not really sure what this thread is even about? I am about the biggest lover of the ocean you will ever find. Scuba dive, deep sea fish, swim daily, and eat a very dominant seafood diet. My friends tell me that I should have been born a fish instead of a human? How does the OP blame the restaurants in the Villages for not being Ocean friendly? The restaurants in the Villages are about 1 1/2 hour form either coast of Florida and there are very few that even serve seafood (at least decent seafood). Is this another plastic straw rant?

Not ranting, just suggesting that it's time for everyone, including restaurants to limit the use of plastic. Hope you watched 60 minutes last night, summarizes my concerns for what we are passing on to our children. You've got to start somewhere, EVEN if it starts with a straw!

[Mortal1]

Good one, you get 5 points for that one, giggle! Just wondering about plastic found on our shores.
Would love return to bio-degradables again!

they'll be whining about killing trees and decimating forests...

Don't want places like california and St. Pete.

[bilcon]

When I was down at one of Mexico 's most beautiful beaches, near a very expensive resort, my wife and I walked a stretch of vacant beach. The entire shore of the beach was littered with all sorts of waste. Medical, garbage etc. When I mentioned this to our hotel manager, he told me to stay away form that beach. He said the waste comes from cruise ships. They pay Mexicans in boats to cart the garbage away for them when they are near the area, but instead the garbage is thrown into the sea by the carters. The locals don't give a s--- about their own country or ocean pollution. I don't blame the cruise lines.

[John_W]

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[acstover]

The problem with avoiding the use of straws is that the glasses may not be entirely clean. The straw allow you to drink your drink without your lips touching a possibly dirty glass.

[Two Bills]

Keep in mind that, as with CO2 emissions, most of the ocean trash we see comes from other countries.

Come on! The US took its trash out in barges and dumped it in the ocean. America is light years behind most of the western world in recycling and polution. Just above the third world countries who know no better.

[Bucco]

Keep in mind that, as with CO2 emissions, most of the ocean trash we see comes from other countries.

Could you please supply some substantial, factual backup for your claim ? Thanks.

"The largest source of greenhouse gas emissions from human activities in the United States is from burning fossil fuels for electricity, heat, and transportation."


Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | Greenhouse Gas (GHG) Emissions | US EPA (https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions)

[Brawnwy123]

We will probably quit cruising. OK the cruise ship comes into port, 6 semi trucks come in and unload all of it. Then when the ship returns, nothing is taken off, nothing, no trash, guess where all the tons of stuff went? On the Fukushima Nuclear plant explosion on the Japanese coast, where do the millions of tons of radioactive trash and water go? Guess.

[xkeowner]

We will probably quit cruising. OK the cruise ship comes into port, 6 semi trucks come in and unload all of it. Then when the ship returns, nothing is taken off, nothing, no trash, guess where all the tons of stuff went? On the Fukushima Nuclear plant explosion on the Japanese coast, where do the millions of tons of radioactive trash and water go? Guess.

Returned to Port Canaveral last Friday morning and witnessed several compressed bundles of trash being off-loaded by Royal Caribbean.

[lindadingman]

What you can do as a consumer is to copy down the requirements for an Ocean Friendly Restaurant, and then ask your waiter if the restaurant complies with any of the criteria. Tell them you want to support places of business who care about the environment. For yourself, do not take straws or to-go boxes. Bring your own container to restaurants for left over food. Never use a plastic water bottle. Don't ask for water at a restaurant and then not drink it. Look for ways to reduce waste. There are hundreds of things you as an individual and a person can do. The biggest thing would be to quit using pesticides on your lawn and replace turf with groundcover and plants which are native to FLorida.
Good luck!!!

[Barefoot]

There isn't a huge effort in TV to recycle. Drive around on recycle days and notice the number of driveways that only have one garbage bag. I assumed that every house recycles - I guess I've never driven around on garbage day.
We have one garbage can for recycling, one for actual garbage; we actually recycle more than we send out in garbage.
It is very easy to recycle. Please do it for our grandchildren.

[Henryk]

I assumed that every house recycles - I guess I've never driven around on garbage day.
We have one garbage can for recycling, one for actual garbage; we actually recycle more than we send out in garbage.
It is very easy to recycle. Please do it for our grandchildren.

I agree. My trash is a small bag. My recycling is three 13-gallon bags.

[retiredguy123]

So, why do they only pick up the recycling once per week, but they pick up the trash twice per week?

[Aloha1]

Could you please supply some substantial, factual backup for your claim ? Thanks.

"The largest source of greenhouse gas emissions from human activities in the United States is from burning fossil fuels for electricity, heat, and transportation."


Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | Greenhouse Gas (GHG) Emissions | US EPA (https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions)

Please re read my post. I never said the US didn't produce CO2 ( that's a natural event of all living creatures). What I said is that the BIGGEST producers of CO2 emissions are other countries, NOT the US.

Aside from that, It is established fact that CO2 emissions on a global basis are currently below levels identified by paleoclimatologists . Not to side track, but historically the earth has generally been warmer than it is today.

[fw102807]

Yes recycling should be good but yes there are problems as well. It needs to be done correctly. This is another example about how we need to learn to not just accept everything at face value and look at both sides before we jump to conclusions.

Recycling is in trouble — and it might be your fault (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/20/weak-markets-make-consumers-wishful-recycling-big-problem/100654976/)

[voyageur75]

Bluefin in Brownwood...very good restaurant.

[Bay Kid]

Lots of trash come from ships disposing their trash while at sea.

[Two Bills]

Every generation from the year Dot, has had to clear up the mess left behind from previous generations.

I hearby bequeath, and leave all my mess in the capable hands of my children and their children, and their cildren and..................!!
W.W.
:)

[graciegirl]

Which contains Methane, a contributor to greenhouse gases.

Methane gas from cows: The proof is in the feces -- ScienceDaily (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110606112822.htm)

But Disney had the answer many years ago; This animal cannot defecate.

[Chi-Town]

So, why do they only pick up the recycling once per week, but they pick up the trash twice per week?Let your trash and recyclables sit in your garage for a week and let us know which one smells. [emoji13]

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[collie1228]

Top five CO2 emitting countries, in order, are China, USA, India, Russian Federation and Japan (from Investopedia, March 2018).

[graciegirl]

Top five CO2 emitting countries, in order, are China, USA, India, Russian Federation and Japan (from Investopedia, March 2018).

The earth is warming and greenhouse gases are rising because of increased industrialization which has halved starvation and poverty since 1990. Very few people are in denial.

Some march. I say study the problem. BUT, BUT when money is involved than human greed and ugliness can sidetrack even the best efforts.

It is not as simple as being in denial or stopping the use of straws. Some people are willing to go to great efforts to do ANYTHING they can. I know a couple who uses no heat or air conditioning here in The Villages. I know someone who hangs her clothes out to dry. I know many who use rocks in their yard.

The formulas espoused to solve the problem have become like denominations in religions, do this, don't do that, and well, I will let you finish my thoughts.

Unless and until we can find out exactly what works we all will do what we think best. We are not unkind or unfeeling, most of us. I grow a little tired of the hatred.

[Aloha1]

The earth is warming and greenhouse gases are rising because of increased industrialization which has halved starvation and poverty since 1990. Very few people are in denial.

Some march. I say study the problem. BUT, BUT when money is involved than human greed and ugliness can sidetrack even the best efforts.

It is not as simple as being in denial or stopping the use of straws. Some people are willing to go to great efforts to do ANYTHING they can. I know a couple who uses no heat or air conditioning here in The Villages. I know someone who hangs her clothes out to dry. I know many who use rocks in their yard.

The formulas espoused to solve the problem have become like denominations in religions, do this, don't do that, and well, I will let you finish my thoughts.

Unless and until we can find out exactly what works we all will do what we think best. We are not unkind or unfeeling, most of us. I grow a little tired of the hatred.

:bigbow:

[Barefoot]

Yes recycling should be good but yes there are problems as well. It needs to be done correctly. This is another example about how we need to learn to not just accept everything at face value and look at both sides before we jump to conclusions.
Recycling is in trouble — and it might be your fault (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/20/weak-markets-make-consumers-wishful-recycling-big-problem/100654976/)Great article, very informative, thanks fw.

[Dick and Lin]

Johnny Rockets has great haddock!

[M Mamros]

Check out a company called 4 Ocean (4ocean.com)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The problem with avoiding the use of straws is that the glasses may not be entirely clean. The straw allow you to drink your drink without your lips touching a possibly dirty glass.

This makes not even a tiny bit of sense. The entire contents of your beverage is in that glass. If the glass is dirty, then everything you drink from inside it is contaminated with the dirt/germs/whatever else. A straw won't change that.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The earth is warming and greenhouse gases are rising because of increased industrialization which has halved starvation and poverty since 1990. Very few people are in denial.

Some march. I say study the problem. BUT, BUT when money is involved than human greed and ugliness can sidetrack even the best efforts.

It is not as simple as being in denial or stopping the use of straws. Some people are willing to go to great efforts to do ANYTHING they can. I know a couple who uses no heat or air conditioning here in The Villages. I know someone who hangs her clothes out to dry. I know many who use rocks in their yard.

The formulas espoused to solve the problem have become like denominations in religions, do this, don't do that, and well, I will let you finish my thoughts.

Unless and until we can find out exactly what works we all will do what we think best. We are not unkind or unfeeling, most of us. I grow a little tired of the hatred.

The point is, Gracie, that there are a myriad of things people CAN do to help reduce waste and lengthen the time our species has to exist on this planet. If you are doing NONE of those things, then yeah - haters are gonna hate, and be justified.

If you do only SOME - then hey - you're making an effort, so go you.

If you're doing lots, then kudos - you're one of the game changers.

If you're doing lots AND advocating, then you're a hero.

So you have to ask yourself - do you want to be the target of hatred? Do you want to be a hero? Or would you feel comfortable somewhere inbetween the two? Most people fall somewhere inbetween the two. That's where I am. I do "some" plus a little more, but not a whole lot. But I try. And yes I have stopped using straws at restaurants. If it's wrapped, I hand it back. Except for my pina coladas, since those are frozen and you'd have to be insane to try and sip a frozen drink from the edge of the glass.

You can actually BUY solid, washable straws now, made from bamboo. Pretty awesome for home use, plus you could always bring one with you to the restaurants.

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=Jazuela;1610225]The point is, Gracie, that there are a myriad of things people CAN do to help reduce waste and lengthen the time our species has to exist on this planet.

You see, that may not be the point. Industrialization may be the point. The defining problem. Shall we stop industrialization?

Protecting the environment and planet warming may not be the same issue. Or they may overlap. My beef is with the politics of it, the veins standing out on necks not even knowing what they think they are protecting. The religiosity of some environmentalists. The passion that I think often is misplaced or misdirected.

There are, as Uncle Ernie often told me, extremely sincere and passionate and highly focused people in Hell.

I think that most caring and educated people are very close to each other on this issue. So I will do what I am doing and you can do what you are doing.

[Barefoot]

Check out a company called 4 Ocean (4ocean.com)Thanks for your post.
It may be a rip-off company, but interesting idea nevertheless.

[spring_chicken]

This makes not even a tiny bit of sense. The entire contents of your beverage is in that glass. If the glass is dirty, then everything you drink from inside it is contaminated with the dirt/germs/whatever else. A straw won't change that.

It makes perfect sense. I don't want my mouth touching the rim and outside of the glass where the waiter has been gripping it in his hand.

[graciegirl]

Thanks for your post, interesting company.

Ripoff Report calls it a scam. Sez it's two guys who own a jewelry store, selling bracelets.

[ColdNoMore]

,,/,,

[affald]

The big picture. The real picture.




Can You Guess Which Country is the Top Ocean Polluter? (https://www-azula-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.azula.com/countries-polluting-ocean-2596059406.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fw ww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azula.com%2Fcountries-polluting-ocean-2596059406.html)

[fw102807]

The big picture. The real picture.




Can You Guess Which Country is the Top Ocean Polluter? (https://www-azula-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.azula.com/countries-polluting-ocean-2596059406.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fw ww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azula.com%2Fcountries-polluting-ocean-2596059406.html)

Yes because China is the biggest importer of foreign waste for recycling which is going to change. Sometimes when you try to solve one problem you just create another. The big picture is actually much bigger than people realize.

This is why China is banning foreign waste | World Economic Forum (http://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/10/china-has-banned-foreign-waste-so-whats-the-future-of-world-recycling)

[jebartle]

It makes perfect sense. I don't want my mouth touching the rim and outside of the glass where the waiter has been gripping it in his hand.

Bet your not sipping a straw with your wine?

[graciegirl]

Yep...very interesting. :thumbup:


Forbes Article (http://www.forbes.com/sites/nvidia/2018/12/07/this-robotics-startup-chose-germany-over-silicon-valley-and-here-is-what-they-are-working-on/#3ef239d92cc9)




As for sites purporting to identify 'ripoffs/scams,' here's an example...that's pretty interesting.

Ripoff Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report)



In other words, you can sign up, just 'give your word' (no one lies about these things, or has an agenda...right? :oops:)...to possibly having your opinion posted. :ohdear:


I am not sure of your point here. I understand that the Ripoff Report is at best iffy.

And I think that the piece from Forbes is praising a company that scores high points for Something called A1, but I am not sure what that is.....

But I didn't find any evidence that you can feel confident about the two jewelers and their bracelets or couldn't figure out the point of the Forbes article. Perhaps you could rephrase it so that I can understand. I do know what "yep" means.

[ColdNoMore]

Thanks for your post, interesting company.

Yep...very interesting. :thumbup:


** Forbes Article (http://www.forbes.com/sites/nvidia/2018/12/07/this-robotics-startup-chose-germany-over-silicon-valley-and-here-is-what-they-are-working-on/#3ef239d92cc9)

**ON EDIT: THIS IS A BAD LINK, BUT GOOGLE 'Bracelets Fund Ocean Cleanup, 1 Million Pounds And Counting' AND THE ARTICLE (as well as the quote below) on July 30, 2018...should come up.

I believe the reason for the inability to put the actual link in might be because, the author's last name is a banned word here on TOTV (Cart...with a 'K').

Sorry for the confusion. :ho:


There have been cleanups in 27 countries so far by 4Ocean. The count is at 1,113,228 pounds of trash removed as of this writing. 4Oceans is operating out of multiple countries and employs more than 150 people around the globe.



As for sites purporting to identify 'ripoffs/scams,' here's an example...that's pretty interesting.

Ripoff Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report)

According to the site's Terms of Service, users are required to affirm that their reports are truthful and accurate, but the site says that it neither investigates, confirms nor corroborates the accuracy of submissions.

In other words, you can sign up, just 'give your word' (no one lies about these things, or has an agenda...right? :oops:)...to possibly having your opinion posted. :ohdear:

[rjm1cc]

Too many pictures of our ocean abuse. What can we do to in courage this locally.

recycle

[affald]

Yes because China is the biggest importer of foreign waste for recycling which is going to change. Sometimes when you try to solve one problem you just create another. The big picture is actually much bigger than people realize.



This is why China is banning foreign waste | World Economic Forum (http://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/10/china-has-banned-foreign-waste-so-whats-the-future-of-world-recycling)China is the biggest polluter because they import recycling???? [emoji19][emoji40][emoji53]

Poor developing nations like China are not held to the same standard.

[emoji555][emoji555][emoji555][emoji555][emoji555]

[fw102807]

China is the biggest polluter because they import recycling???? [emoji19][emoji40][emoji53]

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They import plastics for recycling but find that much of it is not usable but just waste and in the process creates more waste. It's never as simple as it sounds.

[Aloha1]

The big picture. The real picture.




Can You Guess Which Country is the Top Ocean Polluter? (https://www-azula-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.azula.com/countries-polluting-ocean-2596059406.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fw ww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azula.com%2Fcountries-polluting-ocean-2596059406.html)

What I said.