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debbydebby
12-21-2018, 10:00 AM
in a fenney facebook site two people said they saw bridge trusses, with the same design and color as the one built at Brownwood pond. one person has two photos of the trusses stopped on cr468. has anybody seen these sections staged near the future bridge sites on sr44 and or by area to cross florida tkpe. sounds like a DRONE spy mission is needed. lets see, who we get to perform said task...…….. hummmmm
graciegirl
12-21-2018, 10:14 AM
in a fenney facebook site two people said they saw bridge trusses, with the same design and color as the one built at Brownwood pond. one person has two photos of the trusses stopped on cr468. has anybody seen these sections staged near the future bridge sites on sr44 and or by area to cross florida tkpe. sounds like a DRONE spy mission is needed. lets see, who we get to perform said task...…….. hummmmm
You are saying that people have a picture of a couple of trusses or at least wood construction of some kind?
You are wondering if they may be used on a bridge on SR44?
Trusses are used universally in building;
image of building truss - Bing images (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=image+of+building+truss&FORM=HDRSC2)
debbydebby
12-21-2018, 11:31 AM
it really seems these bridge componets match the new bridge at Brownwood pond to connect fenney to mainland. god hope so..... same color, same style, and the trusses seem to be made of steel...… merry xmas all
FenneyFanatic
12-21-2018, 12:07 PM
I saw the picture too. The trusses were large and made of steel. They were identical to the drawing that was published in the Daily Sun a while back.. It is exciting stuff!
Goldwingnut
12-21-2018, 04:14 PM
in a fenney facebook site two people said they saw bridge trusses, with the same design and color as the one built at Brownwood pond. one person has two photos of the trusses stopped on cr468. has anybody seen these sections staged near the future bridge sites on sr44 and or by area to cross florida tkpe. sounds like a DRONE spy mission is needed. lets see, who we get to perform said task...…….. hummmmm
Challenge accepted! I'll get my drones in the air and see what can be seen. I need some additional help though, can you post a copy of the pictures? Where were they seen? Does anyone know where they are now?
I was in the air this post Sunday and filmed this video (12-16 Construction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTNQ3VNSbk&t=1s)) but I didn't see any sign of bridge work anywhere along the Turnpike. I've also not seen any permit filing for any of the SR44 or SR92 bridges , the only recent filings since this past summer have been for the golf cart bridge on the opposite side of CR468 near the new fire station and the pilings on the south side of SR44 near Brownwood. Nothing yet on the bridge over SR92 (Turnpike), Bailey Bridge, or SR44 at Rohan Rec Center.
The closest indication of the possible location of the northern bridge over the Turnpike is at about 4:37 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTNQ3VNSbk&t=277s) on the video were you can see the cleared area going around the power lines and angled towards and up to the Turnpike property. This location is consistent with drawings that have been published of the area
vintageogauge
12-21-2018, 06:46 PM
Several months ago there was something in the paper stating that the bridge would indeed cross the Turnpike near the power lines. I would assume that it has not changed at this point. The other was supposed to be at the cattle bridge near the service plaza? Another question. They have cleared an enormous amount of land east of the Turnpike and north of Warm Springs. Am I right in assuming that this is going to be retail space as it is not being groomed in the same way residential areas have been?
Goldwingnut
12-22-2018, 05:28 AM
Several months ago there was something in the paper stating that the bridge would indeed cross the Turnpike near the power lines. I would assume that it has not changed at this point. The other was supposed to be at the cattle bridge near the service plaza? Another question. They have cleared an enormous amount of land east of the Turnpike and north of Warm Springs. Am I right in assuming that this is going to be retail space as it is not being groomed in the same way residential areas have been?
The area is known as Phase 8a or Phase 4 depending on the documents you look at. A portion of which is designated as commercial (River Birch Plaza) the rest of it is undesignated by any drawings made publicly available. In the 1st picture below you see the River Birch Plaza and the main road coming down from Brownwood. The 2nd picture is a little wider view and shows the extent of the commercial areas planned in yellow.
I am still scratching my head about the golf cart path route. Why build all the way up to the roadway and the bridge in the deliberate manner shown? That little parcel of land right next to the bridge can't be built on because it's a part of the embankment structure of the bridge/roadway. Perhaps they've found a special use for the extra roadbed width of the new north bridge. Looking at the current maps one will have to take the MMP north about 1 1/2 miles and then south again just to cross the Turnpike in a golf cart, or of course you could go south to the Baily bridge, 2 miles, and do the same thing. Might as well take the car. Neither MMP seems a very good plan, and good planning has been a hallmark of this developer for several decades now, how uncharacteristic of them. Maybe they have something planned that hasn't been announced yet.
If you look at time 5:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTNQ3VNSbk&t=350s) on the video you can see the pond and area were the MMP is supposed to be built next to the intersection, still a big height difference and steep slope. And there is a lot of open space between CR468 and the Everglades Rec Center. If you look at picture 2 you also see the MMP that wraps around the retention pond behind Everglades RC, not a very good nature walk along the Turnpike.
Just some food for thought...
debbydebby
12-22-2018, 06:57 AM
having hard time sending photos of golf cart bridge. its in the fenney facebook site. can someone send out those pics. the person said the truck was stopped in left lane of 468 just shy of the tpke bridge where 468 crosses. thanks for all you do
debbydebby
12-22-2018, 07:23 AM
hard to believe 650 views and only two people saw the photos, and no one has seen the trusses along the road. its becoming quite the spy mission. still stuck on long island, 39 days away from desoto. hoping our top spy can get to the bottom of this
Two Bills
12-22-2018, 08:49 AM
Just looked at Fenney Faceache site, and it is a closed site, for Fenney residents only.
Us north of Fenney residents are not invited.
Build the wall!
FenneyFanatic
12-22-2018, 08:53 AM
Here's one of the photos...
debbydebby
12-22-2018, 08:54 AM
just join...… love the wall
debbydebby
12-22-2018, 08:57 AM
Here's one of the photos...
send more.....thanks
graciegirl
12-22-2018, 08:57 AM
hard to believe 650 views and only two people saw the photos, and no one has seen the trusses along the road. its becoming quite the spy mission. still stuck on long island, 39 days away from desoto. hoping our top spy can get to the bottom of this
I remember that you were quite concerned that you may have been foxed by the developers. You could not find any evidence of golf cart paths being connected to the contiguous areas of The Villages. You could not find any paper trail of requests to build such things and many of us reassured you repeatedly that they would be built and that the Morses were quite dependable to execute the published plans.
I am here again to reassure you that a bridge will be built over all roads that need to be crossed so that you can drive your golf cart up to Brownwood and beyond.
Good things are coming. Patience, Grasshhopper.
Merry Christmas. Hurry home.
debbydebby
12-22-2018, 09:00 AM
I remember that you were quite concerned that you may have been foxed by the developers. You could not find any evidence of golf cart paths being connected to the contiguous areas of The Villages. You could not find any paper trail of requests to build such things and many of us reassured you repeatedly that they would be built and that the Morses were quite dependable to execute the published plans.
I am here again to reassure you that a bridge will be built over all roads that need to be crossed so that you can drive your golf cart up to Brownwood and beyond.
Good things are coming. Patience, Grasshhopper.
Merry Christmas. Hurry home.
best of holidays to you and yours
FenneyFanatic
12-22-2018, 09:13 AM
Here's another pic...
FenneyFanatic
12-22-2018, 09:18 AM
Oops..Here's the second photo..
LI SNOWBIRD
12-22-2018, 09:37 AM
Just looked at Fenney Faceache site, and it is a closed site, for Fenney residents only.
Us north of Fenney residents are not invited.
Build the wall!
Funny--thanks! :bigbow:
debbydebby
12-23-2018, 09:00 AM
still not heard from our spy, i'm sure he's on the job, most likely incoginto. most likely jacket and hat, 44 degrees out. either way chief inspector clouseau would be proud..... cause you know ITS HIS JOB TO KNOW
SouthOfTheBorder
12-23-2018, 09:36 AM
Here's another pic...
IMO, the bridge section in this photo looks too short and the side height does not look tall enough to be used crossing the turnpike. Looks more like a bridge to be used to cross a wetland somewhere inside TV.
The previously published rendering of proposed bridges show the top of the "railings" as upward curved and decorative. I don't think TV would waste the marketing value of using a much nicer looking bridge to cross the FL Turnpike.
:)
Don
debbydebby
12-23-2018, 10:16 AM
hopping that section in the photo is only one section spaning only east bound traffic. thinking it connects to same spanning westbound.... time will tell
debbydebby
12-23-2018, 11:17 AM
this is the way is see it...… the bridge is a 4 section bridge, east bolted to west on the the north half span
an then again, east bolted to west on the south half span ….. NOW LIFT AND BOLT TOGETHER, span complete..... I TRUELY BELIEVE THESE ARE THE PARTS, PLEASE PEOPLE IN AREA...….OPEN YOUR EYES.... FIND IT.
either way …….. HAPPY HOILDAYS TO YOU AND YOURS
AND GOD SPEED
Goldwingnut
12-23-2018, 11:18 AM
I did some flying this morning and have found the mystery bridge that was reported.
It is located at the outflow of the Hog Eye Sink near the Turnpike. It will be the MMP bridge over the outflow. If you look just north of the new Everglades Rec Center construction you will see a crane, that is the location of the new MMP bridge. Here are two pictures of the bridge section and crane.
Two Bills
12-23-2018, 11:27 AM
The spy has delivered!
debbydebby
12-23-2018, 12:14 PM
JOB WELL DONE CHIEF INSPECTOR, BUT AS COMMISSIONER DREYUS, you have been relieved of your duties. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY, WISH ALL A SAFE AND HEATHLY HOLIDAY AND THE BEST FOR NEW YEARS.
DON, I'M SURE EVERYBODY THANKS YOU FOR JOB YOU DO, AND JUST CANT WAIT FOR YOU NEXT FLY OVER, SORRY FOR TIME WASTED...… THE BEST TO YOU AND YOURS.... GOD SPEED.... JESS, OWE YOU BEERS... BYE:bigbow::bigbow:
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