Need more Pickleball courts

[twoplanekid]

The local paper mentioned that The Villages has 182 pickleball courts, the most of any single location in the world. However, not a single court was added in 2018.

While it looks like twelve new courts at the under construction Everglades regional rec center will be added in 2019, they are a little bit behind the curve in my estimation of the need for courts.

[graciegirl]

The local paper mentioned that The Villages has 182 pickleball courts, the most of any single location in the world. However, not a single court was added in 2018.

While it looks like twelve new courts at the under construction Everglades regional rec center will be added in 2019, they are a little bit behind the curve in my estimation of the need for courts.

You didn't mention if you had difficulty getting a court?

It is high season. All activities are more crowded and the popular ones there is a wait. That is because the place is flooded with those likeable, loveable, seasonal residents that pay their amenity fees year 'round. Bless their little round heads.

[twoplanekid]

You didn't mention if you had difficulty getting a court?

It is high season. All activities are more crowded and the popular ones there is a wait. That is because the place is flooded with those likeable, loveable, seasonal residents that pay their amenity fees year 'round. Bless their little round heads.

I have been playing year around for the past two years playing around 4 to 5 days a week. So, I understand the court situation fairly well. However, all of this talk doesn’t change the fact that not one pickleball court was added in 2018. Behind the curve which would be a little unusual for The Villages?

[Two Bills]

When my wife and I came here 20 years ago, and expansion was in full swing, recreational facilities were put in before, or alongside new housing.
The latest developments have reversed that trend completely. Now it is houses first, and recreational facilities after, which until the new areas catch up, is going to put a strain on existing facilities.
Also from what I can make out, the ratio of facilities to housing is shrinking as well.

[njbchbum]

I have been playing year around for the past two years playing around 4 to 5 days a week. So, I understand the court situation fairly well. However, all of this talk doesn’t change the fact that not one pickleball court was added in 2018. Behind the curve ??

Your post makes me wonder what amenities were added to and/or improved in 2018 that would have added to the enjoyment of residents involved in activities other than pickleball.

[John_W]

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[vintageogauge]

According to the same paper today there are 121,000 residents in TV and last year on this same date there were 123,966 residents in TV Metropolitan Statistical Area. These figures are not comparing apples with apples and are a bit confusing. They did however put in more holes of golf, archery, air rifle, dog park, bag toss, bocce, shuffleboard, pools, outdoor exercise equipment, etc. Next year will bring much more including Softball and Soccer fields, RC cars and boats, lots of new stuff on the horizon. Does anyone ever use the horseshoes that are scattered around the recreation areas?

[JoMar]

Not sure what the "curve" is? Have you talked to the District to understand the ratio? Have you asked for the projections? Also, this appears to be the largest expansion in The Villages history and amenities require residents so I suspect sales will take priority.

[Bogie Shooter]

Your post makes me wonder what amenities were added to and/or improved in 2018 that would have added to the enjoyment of residents involved in activities other than pickleball.

From the Daily Sun.
Recreational opportunities flourish with more to come | News | thevillagesdailysun.com (http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/news/villages/recreational-opportunities-flourish-with-more-to-come/article_3516d994-0bf0-11e9-9356-b3b19b91a793.html)

[Topspinmo]

I feel for you all below the mason dixon line having to travel mile or less to next rec center. Where I live in the nortorious district 4 it’s 4 miles to next tennis, pickleball, or billiards tables. District 3 fairs little better, but, not much.

[twoplanekid]

Not sure what the "curve" is? Have you talked to the District to understand the ratio? Have you asked for the projections? Also, this appears to be the largest expansion in The Villages history and amenities require residents so I suspect sales will take priority.

The District usually isn’t involved in the construction of new recreation facilities with the exception of the church property up north. The Developer might be placing a greater emphasis on sales than building new amenities. But again, my focus is on the construction of new pickleball courts as it will soon be two years, March 31, 2017 since a new court has been placed in operation.

[JoMar]

The District usually isn’t involved in the construction of new recreation facilities with the exception of the church property up north. The Developer might be placing a greater emphasis on sales than building new amenities. But again, my focus is on the construction of new pickleball courts as it will soon be two years, March 31, 2017 since a new court has been placed in operation.

The District has the responsibility for maintenance and staffing so I assume they need to project needs. You could also reach out to the Developer and the District can also help with that. I doubt any more courts will be built above 44 so your needs will need to be filled by the new construction.

[VApeople]

But again, my focus is on the construction of new pickleball courts as it will soon be two years, March 31, 2017 since a new court has been placed in operation.

When there are more new houses built above Route 44, then it will be reasonable to build more courts above Route 44.

At the present time, the new houses are being built south of the Turnpike, and that is where the new courts are being built. Makes sense to me.

[twoplanekid]

When there are more new houses built above Route 44, then it will be reasonable to build more courts above Route 44.

At the present time, the new houses are being built south of the Turnpike, and that is where the new courts are being built. Makes sense to me.

My point is that there have been no new courts built since March 2017 in all of TV including both above and below 44. Are they too slow in building courts? I believe that they are.

Usually they are ahead of the demand to show prospective home owners what they have to use.

[JoMar]

My point is that there have been no new courts built since March 2017 in all of TV including both above and below 44. Are they too slow in building courts? I believe that they are.

Usually they are ahead of the demand to show prospective home owners what they have to use.

I believe all the recreation facilities above 44 have been built so not sure where they would put them. I suspect any new courts would need to be below 44. Have any regional or neighborhood recreation centers been built in the last two years? Moyer, Burnsed, Rohan all have them.

[twoplanekid]

The newest courts are located in the Spanish Moss Recreation Center in the Village of Fenney. That was opened in March of 2017. It's now 2019 and Happy New Year.

[jswintberg]

I believe there are a couple of activity issues at play re Southern Oaks. There clearly are a current lack of PB courts south of Rt 44.Other than Everglades RC, I did not see any PB courts scheduled to be opened at any rec center in the Daily Sun supplement magazine today. Another impact issue is the lack of scheduling beginner, advanced beginner and intermediate PB at 10 am at the rec centers where nothing is scheduled at 10 am. For example, for yrs, the only advanced beginner PB scheduled on Friday 10 am is Big Cypress and a far north rec center. During snowbird season, this results in lines of 25 to 40 people waiting to play. For every 24 waiting the wait is at least 15 minutes. The Rec Dept has been made aware of this, for yrs, yet no apparent effort to solve the 10 am long lines problem.

The other glaring Southern Oaks activity omission is the current lack of any championship golf courses. Today's supplement shows one 18 hole course (as opposed to the usual 27) planned for some future date east of Monarch Grove. That has to be at least 2 yrs away.

[tophcfa]

My point is that there have been no new courts built since March 2017 in all of TV including both above and below 44. Are they too slow in building courts? I believe that they are.

Usually they are ahead of the demand to show prospective home owners what they have to use.

It's been much longer since championship golf has been added, and the sports pools are very overcrowded and offer very limited dedicated lap swimming time. I agree that availability of certain recreational activities are not keeping pace with the population growth.

[charmed59]

I was under the impression that the southern villages were being built to appeal more toward those who like nature and more of the natural outdoor activities. This is why they concentrated less on courts and championship golf course and more on nature trails, dog parks, archery ranges and such. Are the pickle ball courts south of 44 busier than Rohan?

I am doubtful the residents south of 44 are what is making the pickleball courts north of 44 busy. In the off season I’ve seen an explosion of pickleball 101, 102, and 103 classes being taught all over. They became so ubiquitous they weren’t even full. This means there are lots more trained pickleball folks ready to take on the beginner, advanced beginner and open crowds.

[vintageogauge]

I don't play pickleball but walk my dog in the park at the pickelball courts in Fenney. I don't know that I have ever seen anyone waiting to play and most of the time they're empty. I'm sure there are times throughout the day that they are very busy with leagues, etc. but not all day long.

[Bay Kid]

Hopefully they will build courts up north by the new rec center by 1st Baptist Church of The Villages.

[Rga20]

The quickest, cheapest solution to adding court time would to be to install lights at those rec centers where the lights wouldn't infringe on neighboring houses (Colony would be an example). This would add an additional x number of court hours during the early twilight winter times when the demand is greatest and also offer a safer option in the summer when demand is low but the heat is high. Just a thought

[tophcfa]

The quickest, cheapest solution to adding court time would to be to install lights at those rec centers where the lights wouldn't infringe on neighboring houses (Colony would be an example). This would add an additional x number of court hours during the early twilight winter times when the demand is greatest and also offer a safer option in the summer when demand is low but the heat is high. Just a thought

Good idea:coolsmiley:

[village dreamer]

I wish manatee would have open pickleball at 10 am .:pray::pray::pray:

[photo1902]

Neighbors around the rec centers should love this suggestion...………………….

You read my mind. Could you even imagine.

[twoplanekid]

You read my mind. Could you even imagine.

Could be done at Rohan, Eisenhower and some others without issues. However, it's highly unlikely to be done as many don't like changes and the costs.

[JoMar]

There are houses behind Eisenhower and I suspect sitting on your Lanai for drinks and listening to the soothing sounds of pickleball won't be high on anyone's amenity list. I said it before, reach out to John Rohan and ask the question. Discussion here won't accomplish anything.

[Bogie Shooter]

There are houses behind Eisenhower and I suspect sitting on your Lanai for drinks and listening to the soothing sounds of pickleball won't be high on anyone's amenity list. I said it before, reach out to John Rohan and ask the question. Discussion here won't accomplish anything.

::agree:

Recreation Administration
984 Old Mill Run
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Phone: 352-674-1800
Fax: 352-674-1805

[CFrance]

The quickest, cheapest solution to adding court time would to be to install lights at those rec centers where the lights wouldn't infringe on neighboring houses (Colony would be an example). This would add an additional x number of court hours during the early twilight winter times when the demand is greatest and also offer a safer option in the summer when demand is low but the heat is high. Just a thought
Another way to add more pickleball courts would be to add painted pickleball court lines to the tennis courts. Years ago that's what they did in our Michigan community so the little used tennis courts in the area could support the pickleball. Maybe the rec dept. doesn't want to provide the tool to lower the net the couple inches required, but players could get used to the higher net. Or they could leave the tool in the equipment sheds.


We even played indoor pickleball in Michigan on a church's indoor basketball courts. The pickleball lines were painted a different color than the basketball lines. It wasn't hard to get used to. If you can get used to lines over a basketball court, adding lines to tennis courts wouldln't be a problem. Even now, there are some tennis courts with short court lines added.

Adding lines to the tennis courts is a cheap answer.

[CFrance]

]I was under the impression that the southern villages were being built to appeal more toward those who like nature and more of the natural outdoor activities.[/B] This is why they concentrated less on courts and championship golf course and more on nature trails, dog parks, archery ranges and such. Are the pickle ball courts south of 44 busier than Rohan?

I am doubtful the residents south of 44 are what is making the pickleball courts north of 44 busy. In the off season I’ve seen an explosion of pickleball 101, 102, and 103 classes being taught all over. They became so ubiquitous they weren’t even full. This means there are lots more trained pickleball folks ready to take on the beginner, advanced beginner and open crowds.
I'm wondering where you got this impression. The draw of TV has always been the many different activities available throughout the community, and outdoor sports has always been extremely popular. I think there have been people who have defended against the negative comments when Fenney opened by stating that it was serene, had nature trails, and was uncrowded. The uncrowded part will not remain as building continues. These are almost the only new builds available, and I doubt everyone building there is doing it for the nature alone.

[photo1902]

Could be done at Rohan, Eisenhower and some others without issues. However, it's highly unlikely to be done as many don't like changes and the costs.

At Eisenhower? No way. Houses to the side and rear. What are the “some others” you refer to. IMHO, you’ll never see lighted courts here.

[charmed59]

I was looking to move our tennis game and I got to tell you, it was very hard to find unreserved tennis courts for 8-11 in the morning. But later in the day, if there is still a need for pickleball courts, the tennis courts are often free.

When I’ve seen tennis and pickleball courts shared they use smaller nets on casters for the pickleball nets. The tennis nets are used as the fence between the pickle ball courts. If you have two tennis courts side by side you can get six pickle ball courts.

Raising and lowering tennis nets tends to wear out the net hardware fairly quickly. It might be a maintenance nightmare to attempt to do that daily. Not to mention trying to get recreation staff to pick up that chore, as you really don’t want just anyone attempting to play with the nets.

[Topspinmo]

[QUOTE=CFrance;1612673]Another way to add more pickleball courts would be to add painted pickleball court lines to the tennis courts. Years ago that's what they did in our Michigan community so the little used tennis courts in the area could support the pickleball. Maybe the rec dept. doesn't want to provide the tool to lower the net the couple inches required, but players could get used to the higher net. Or they could leave the tool in the equipment sheds.






Not really the net posts net height aren’t the same, so you would have to have temporary nets and some one to set them up and take them down




Well IMO when you have rec center close there should be either pickleball courts or tennis courts. Example is saddle brook and laurel manor. Saddle brook could make 6 more pickle ball courts out of tennis courts And LAUREL manor could be all tennis courts. So you would get two more pickleball courts and three tennis courts, plus the noise from pickleball would be separated from tennis.

[Topspinmo]

I was looking to move our tennis game and I got to tell you, it was very hard to find unreserved tennis courts for 8-11 in the morning. But later in the day, if there is still a need for pickleball courts, the tennis courts are often free.

When I’ve seen tennis and pickleball courts shared they use smaller nets on casters for the pickleball nets. The tennis nets are used as the fence between the pickle ball courts. If you have two tennis courts side by side you can get six pickle ball courts.

Raising and lowering tennis nets tends to wear out the net hardware fairly quickly. It might be a maintenance nightmare to attempt to do that daily. Not to mention trying to get recreation staff to pick up that chore, as you really don’t want just anyone attempting to play with the nets.

Most tennis courts are reserved usually till noon at most rec centers. in district 4 which only have 4 courts north of el Camino Reno at Chatham are reserved everyday till 11 am and the only 4 court design that don’t have warm up back board, another short changed in district 4

[Topspinmo]

At Eisenhower? No way. Houses to the side and rear. What are the “some others” you refer to. IMHO, you’ll never see lighted courts here.

Ther are two places prefect for lighted pickleball. Paradise has two beside the lighted tennis courts and cross 441 at La Hacienda. No house nearby and the traffic from 441 will drown out the noise anyway.

[dewilson58]

The quickest, cheapest solution to adding court time would to be to install lights at those rec centers where the lights wouldn't infringe on neighboring houses (Colony would be an example). This would add an additional x number of court hours during the early twilight winter times when the demand is greatest and also offer a safer option in the summer when demand is low but the heat is high. Just a thought


The quickest, cheapest solution is less players.


:clap2:

[photo1902]

The quickest, cheapest solution is less players.


:clap2:

Another option

[Topspinmo]

Another option

Or glo in the dark balls and lines:shocked:

[Topspinmo]

The quickest, cheapest solution is less players.


:clap2:

:ohdear: or less villagers

[Topspinmo]

Hopefully they will build courts up north by the new rec center by 1st Baptist Church of The Villages.

I will be surprised it they do. Probably be the horseshoe capitol of the villages. Starting the 7th January district 4 residents can put their two cents in and be trumped by nickel. Two tennis courts with practice backboard would be nice, platform tennis courts would be nice, badminton courts would be nice, 3 wall racketball/ handball courts would be nice, pitching green would be nice.

[Topspinmo]

Another option

Or open them up for the blind like me that can’t see in daylight :ohdear:

[charmed59]

Well IMO when you have rec center close there should be either pickleball courts or tennis courts. Example is saddle brook and laurel manor. Saddle brook could make 6 more pickle ball courts out of tennis courts And LAUREL manor could be all tennis courts. So you would get two more pickleball courts and three tennis courts, plus the noise from pickleball would be separated from tennis.

At Saddlebrook there are two tennis courts and six pickle ball. At Laurel Manor there are two tennis courts and 4 pickle ball courts. You could move all the pickle ball to Laurel Manor and get 10 pickle ball courts, and 4 tennis courts at Saddle brook, but that is the same number you have now. Or you could move all pickle ball to Saddlebrook and get 12 pickle ball courts, but only three tennis courts at Laurel Manor, as you can’t fit two full tennis courts in the space of 4 pickle ball courts. It wouldn’t be the most efficient use of space.

[tophcfa]

I will be surprised it they do. Probably be the horseshoe capitol of the villages. Starting the 7th January district 4 residents can put their two cents in and be trumped by nickel. Two tennis courts with practice backboard would be nice, platform tennis courts would be nice, badminton courts would be nice, 3 wall racketball/ handball courts would be nice, pitching green would be nice.

An indoor sports pool would be awsome.

[Topspinmo]

An indoor sports pool would be awsome.

I agree, I thought I read where the developers were going to build the pool, but that was couple years go when the property was first on the table for district 3 and 4 law suit money.

[Topspinmo]

At Saddlebrook there are two tennis courts and six pickle ball. At Laurel Manor there are two tennis courts and 4 pickle ball courts. You could move all the pickle ball to Laurel Manor and get 10 pickle ball courts, and 4 tennis courts at Saddle brook, but that is the same number you have now. Or you could move all pickle ball to Saddlebrook and get 12 pickle ball courts, but only three tennis courts at Laurel Manor, as you can’t fit two full tennis courts in the space of 4 pickle ball courts. It wouldn’t be the most efficient use of space..

You would get 3 tennis courts, being all the pickleball player complain the tennis courts aren’t used it would make sence to me. Beside tennis players don’t like the noise and movement behind them beings tennis is 10 times harder than pickleball and the ball travels 5 times faster.

[charmed59]

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You would get 3 tennis courts, being all the pickleball player complain the tennis courts aren’t used it would make sence to me. Beside tennis players don’t like the noise and movement behind them beings tennis is 10 times harder than pickleball and the ball travels 5 times faster.

When I was at Laurel Manor yesterday morning both tennis courts were in use, one pickleball court out of 4 was in use. I’m not sure that area needs less tennis courts and more pickleball courts.

[bewall1974]

Definitely need more pickleball courts. You shouldn't have to wait forever in a line to play. Many tennis courts not being used. Change them over

[charmed59]

If the tennis courts are truely not being used, I agree with you. I’m curious which tennis courts don’t have any reservations on them. Can you tell us where these are?

[Topspinmo]

When I was at Laurel Manor yesterday morning both tennis courts were in use, one pickleball court out of 4 was in use. I’m not sure that area needs less tennis courts and more pickleball courts.

Under my opinion Laurel manner would have 3 tennis courts ( 4 pickle ball courts turned in to 1 tennis court) and saddlebrook would gain 6 pickleball courts refiguring the two tennis courts. Beings they are so close together it would be no inconvenience to either pickleball players or tennis players. Under this concept would gain two pickleball courts all at one location and loose 1 tennis court. But, tennis at laurel manner would gain additional tennis court.

[Topspinmo]

Definitely need more pickleball courts. You shouldn't have to wait forever in a line to play. Many tennis courts not being used. Change them over

There only not being used while you’re their, you can look at the schedule and see when reserved times are, pickleball courts are not full all day long even during snowbird season. IMO tennis and pickleball shouldn’t be beside each other anyway. Especially when the don’t put up windscreen divider’s

[CFrance]

[QUOTE=CFrance;1612673]Another way to add more pickleball courts would be to add painted pickleball court lines to the tennis courts. Years ago that's what they did in our Michigan community so the little used tennis courts in the area could support the pickleball. Maybe the rec dept. doesn't want to provide the tool to lower the net the couple inches required, but players could get used to the higher net. Or they could leave the tool in the equipment sheds.






Not really the net posts net height aren’t the same, so you would have to have temporary nets and some one to set them up and take them down


Well IMO when you have rec center close there should be either pickleball courts or tennis courts. Example is saddle brook and laurel manor. Saddle brook could make 6 more pickle ball courts out of tennis courts And LAUREL manor could be all tennis courts. So you would get two more pickleball courts and three tennis courts, plus the noise from pickleball would be separated from tennis.
IMO lowering the tennis net height for pickleball would be better than nothing.The posts heights don't factor much in pickleball, and it's only a couple of inches. Tennis nets can sag a couple of inches. TV will never pay to light the courts. Way too much of an expense.


We need another bowling alley too!

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=Topspinmo;1612732]
IMO lowering the tennis net height for pickleball would be better than nothing.The posts heights don't factor much in pickleball, and it's only a couple of inches. Tennis nets can sag a couple of inches. TV will never pay to light the courts. Way too much of an expense.


We need another bowling alley too!

Perhaps they are disinclined because lighting the courts would cause noise to nearby homes at bedtime for some?

[New Englander]

Night time pickle-ball would be extremely irritating to the people who live in the vicinity of the courts.

[photo1902]

Night time pickle-ball would be extremely irritating to the people who live in the vicinity of the courts.

Absolutely.

[JoMar]

Just passed Manatee......courts were empty

[twoplanekid]

Just passed Manatee......courts were empty

Most do not play between 2~4 P.M. because of weather. Too hot or windy. Today, it's now very windy!

Could try lighting at Rohan’s 18 courts as a test but not sure how late in the evenings people would want to venture out.

So, I would hope that they would just build more courts. As the population of The Villages increases, I would assume that more people would want to play pickleball. To relieve pressure on existing courts, I would hope that someone builds more to stay ahead of the demand/curve.

[photo1902]

Most do not play between 2~4 P.M. because of weather. Too hot or windy. Today, it's now very windy!

You're kidding me, right? So we need more pickleball courts which will sit empty because of heat, wind, etc?

[Bogie Shooter]

[QUOTE=Topspinmo;1612732]
IMO lowering the tennis net height for pickleball would be better than nothing.The posts heights don't factor much in pickleball, and it's only a couple of inches. Tennis nets can sag a couple of inches. TV will never pay to light the courts. Way too much of an expense.


We need another bowling alley too!

What does TV have to do with bowing alley’s?

[Bogie Shooter]

Most do not play between 2~4 P.M. because of weather. Too hot or windy. Today, it's now very windy!

Could try lighting at Rohan’s 18 courts as a test but not sure how late in the evenings people would want to venture out.

So, I would hope that they would just build more courts. As the population of The Villages increases, I would assume that more people would want to play pickleball. To relieve pressure on existing courts, I would hope that someone builds more to stay ahead of the demand/curve.

“Someone builds” , who is someone?

[photo1902]

“Someone builds” , who is someone?

You know, “them”.

[Topspinmo]

[QUOTE=CFrance;1613076]

Perhaps they are disinclined because lighting the courts would cause noise to nearby homes at bedtime for some?

The lighted tennis courts you have to feed with quarters over there and the courts are right beside 441 along with the pickleball courts. no houses close like everywhere else where every inch used to squeeze in one more house. Now where else in village IMO would appropriate due to housing within ball throw.

Over at these two locations it pretty close to 1/5 mile from housing, plus square noise also. Lights on the tennis courts go out at 10 or 1030 PM if I remember correctly? We both know there not going to do anything extra that don’t have the word golf in it anyway:1rotfl:

[Topspinmo]

[QUOTE=Topspinmo;1612732]
IMO lowering the tennis net height for pickleball would be better than nothing.The posts heights don't factor much in pickleball, and it's only a couple of inches. Tennis nets can sag a couple of inches. TV will never pay to light the courts. Way too much of an expense.


We need another bowling alley too!

IMO rec enter workers won’t do it, can’t even get them at certain locations to zip tie the wind screen back or blow shrub and palm trash off the courts ( especially the little marbles the fall out of palms planted right beside courts at certain locations, like playing on BBs) (I probably tie off more broken zip ties than they do)

I agree both bowling alley are pretty busy. But, that’s big bucks?

Speaking of bowling the pros will be back to spainish springs around March 22nd. I went last year and seen Pete Weber, Parker Bohn, norm duke, Walter Ray Williams, and more.

[Topspinmo]

You're kidding me, right? So we need more pickleball courts which will sit empty because of heat, wind, etc?

Golf courses set empty also, but not reducing them are they, or stop spending loads money them like replacing sand traps that were better here than private or city courses elsewhere. You can make that point about every amenities at certain time of the day.

[graciegirl]

Golf courses set empty also, but not reducing them are they, or stop spending loads money them like replacing sand traps that were better here than private or city courses elsewhere. You can make that point about every amenities at certain time of the day.

Sir. The golf courses are in use most time it is light here in The Villages.

Unless they are being redone or fixed.

[Topspinmo]

Sir. The golf courses are in use most time it is light here in The Villages.

Unless they are being redone or fixed.




See there's that word most. which described about all other functions, but horseshoes, which I rarely see any activity on, but, who am I say replace them with something else. But, it could be come popular again?

[graciegirl]

The local paper mentioned that The Villages has 182 pickleball courts, the most of any single location in the world. However, not a single court was added in 2018.

While it looks like twelve new courts at the under construction Everglades regional rec center will be added in 2019, they are a little bit behind the curve in my estimation of the need for courts.

Need more pickleball courts is also a bit negative for a title.

In your opinion we need more pickleball courts.

I ask, is is harder to get a court to play pickleball this January? Is the wait longer than it was a year ago?

[kansasr]

In a word, YES

[Goldwingnut]

The next pickle ball courts will be at River Bend rec center and Everglades rec center, both currently under construction. They build them ahead of the residents, so the Fenney courts were built and open as Fenney was opening, no more needed until more growth happens.

If you want more courts north of SR44 then you have to convince the AAC and PWAC to built them. The developer is done building amenities north of SR44 and owes none of us anything (yes, what your realtor told you was a lie). If PWAC/AAC agrees to build them then prepare to pay more for your monthly amenities fees as nothing is free.

You'll be hard pressed to win the argument that more courts are needed. Yes, it may be difficult to get court time between 8:00AM and 11:00AM, but in the afternoons I have passed a great many that our empty, play then.

[CWGUY]

The next pickle ball courts will be at River Bend rec center and Everglades rec center, both currently under construction. They build them ahead of the residents, so the Fenney courts were built and open as Fenney was opening, no more needed until more growth happens.

If you want more courts north of SR44 then you have to convince the AAC and PWAC to built them. The developer is done building amenities north of SR44 and owes none of us anything (yes, what your realtor told you was a lie). If PWAC/AAC agrees to build them then prepare to pay more for your monthly amenities fees as nothing is free.

You'll be hard pressed to win the argument that more courts are needed. Yes, it may be difficult to get court time between 8:00AM and 11:00AM, but in the afternoons I have passed a great many that our empty, play then.

:ho: There you go with facts again! If you keep that up don't be surprised if you get booted off the site. :rolleyes:

Thanks for all that you do. :bigbow:

[twoplanekid]

:ho: There you go with facts again! If you keep that up don't be surprised if you get booted off the site. :rolleyes:

Thanks for all that you do. :bigbow:

In my very first post on this thread, I said “While it looks like twelve new courts at the under construction Everglades regional rec center will be added in 2019, they are a little bit behind the curve in my estimation of the need for courts.” Hopefully, the six at River Bend will be completed before the end of 2019 as the population is increasing daily.

I understand that the Developer constructs the courts and thus never suggested in my comments anything about new courts above 44.

Two years have gone by before additional courts can be used while TV population has increased by how many thousands of people in those years? From my prospective as a pickleball player and enthusiast, they are a little bit behind the curve.

Those that play pickleball can clearly understand why courts are most active during certain times of the day. I don’t play golf but am happy to support those that enjoy playing that game and am happy to see them continue to build golf courses.

[toeser]

I can't speak to your specific location, but I travel all over the Villages on a frequent basis and I see Pickleball, bocce ball, tennis, and shuffleboard courts wide open with great frequency. I have never had to wait to play Pickleball.

[graciegirl]

In my very first post on this thread, I said “While it looks like twelve new courts at the under construction Everglades regional rec center will be added in 2019, they are a little bit behind the curve in my estimation of the need for courts.” Hopefully, the six at River Bend will be completed before the end of 2019 as the population is increasing daily.

I understand that the Developer constructs the courts and thus never suggested in my comments anything about new courts above 44.

Two years have gone by before additional courts can be used while TV population has increased by how many thousands of people in those years? From my prospective as a pickleball player and enthusiast, they are a little bit behind the curve.

Those that play pickleball can clearly understand why courts are most active during certain times of the day. I don’t play golf but am happy to support those that enjoy playing that game and am happy to see them continue to build golf courses.

GolfWingnut says Fenney has courts. And new ones being built in contiguous villages. That takes care of their area and the areas now occupied have the same amount as they had with the same population. I don't understand your concern.

[twoplanekid]

GolfWingnut says Fenney has courts. And new ones being buil in contiguous villages. That takes care of their area and the areas now occupied have the same amout as they had with the same population. I don't understand your concern.

Again: Two years have gone by before additional courts can be used while TV population has increased by how many thousands of people in those two years? From my prospective as a pickleball player and enthusiast, they are a little bit behind the curve.

Were the six new courts at Fenney enough to cover two years worth of new pickleballers? I don't think so.

They may be ahead for a time depending on when the announced new courts can be used and what increases in TV population take place before other additional courts are needed. A never ending game to stay ahead or keep up.

[graciegirl]

Again: Two years have gone by before additional courts can be used while TV population has increased by how many thousands of people in those two years? From my prospective as a pickleball player and enthusiast, they are a little bit behind the curve.

Were the six new courts at Fenney enough to cover two years worth of new pickleballers? I don't think so.

They may be ahead for a time depending on when the announced new courts can be used and what increases in TV population take place before other additional courts are needed. A never ending game to stay ahead or keep up.

I would be interested to hear from people who are having more trouble than they had last year at this time getting courts. Also I imagine that they factor in that pickleball being a more active sport that many people age out of their interest in it.

And the many that are still in casts.

JUST KIDDING.

[twoplanekid]

I would be interested to hear from people who are having more trouble than they had last year at this time getting courts. Also I imagine that they factor in that pickleball being a more active sport that many people age out of their interest in it.

And the many that are still in casts.

JUST KIDDING.

Hey, everyone should be an advocate for their favorite sport. The newer areas supposedly are for the more active generation thus more PB players? We will see if that holds true. It’s always fun discussing things with you about our favorite place to be.

[Goldwingnut]

So there are 6 courts currently open in Fenney with 1805 homes scheduled for Fenney, or approximately 1 court for every 301 homes. Of course this is just the Village of Fenney and we now have DeSoto and the start of McClure, once all of CDD12 is built (Fenney, DeSoto, McClure, Linden, Monarch Grove, Marsh Bend, and DeLuna) there were be 3637 homes (per the development agreement with the City of Wildwood). But there are additional pickle ball courts being built; 6 in Riverbend, 12 in Everglades, and 6 more in Water Lilly VRC (Village of De Luna) for a total of 30 pickle ball courts in that section of The Villages south of Sr44 or about 1 court for every 121 homes south of SR44.

The big question is how does that compare to the rest of The Village?

According to Saturday's Daily Sun there are 182 pickle ball courts, if 6 are in Fenney that leaves 176 courts throughout The Village north of SR44. According the the 2019 new comers guide there are 58,406 homes north of SR44. The math says 1 court for every 332 homes north of SR44. With these rations the Fenney courts should support about 1991 homes.

Numbers don't lie, they can be juggled to say many things but in this case the math is very simple. There are more pickle ball courts per home/person in the areas that have been build and will continue to be built for the next 2 years than any other area of The Villages. The population north of SR44 hasn't changed much in the last 18 months (since Fenney area opened) and won't in the foreseeable future (all the growth is now south of SR44).

TwoPlaneKid, the math and the areas of growth in The Villages clearly shows your complaint is without any merit or validity. The courts were clearly built ahead of the population increase you're worried about and are being built in excess of current Villages ratios. They are AHEAD OF THE CURVE not behind it. What do you want? If you want more courts north of SR44 come to the PWAC and AAC meetings and state your case, they are the ones who can make it happen in the completed areas of The Villages.

Then start making your case the the 100,000+ other residents why their amenities rate is going to go up to pay for the new courts.

[twoplanekid]

[QUOTE=Goldwingnut;1614052]So there are 6 courts currently open in Fenney with 1805 homes scheduled for Fenney, or approximately 1 court for every 301 homes. Of course this is just the Village of Fenney and we now have DeSoto and the start of McClure,

Well, according to your figures they are behind at the moment. :icon_wink:

"Two years have gone by before additional courts can be used while TV population has increased by how many thousands of people in those two years? From my prospective as a pickleball player and enthusiast, they are a little bit behind the curve."

[wayneman]

Rohan, no houses around. New Everglades rec center. They will have softball there also.
So lights are very possible. Getting John Rohan to do it is near impossible.

[CWGUY]

:read: Urban Dictionary: Curmudgeon (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Curmudgeon) :ho:

[Goldwingnut]

Rohan, no houses around. New Everglades rec center. They will have softball there also.
So lights are very possible. Getting John Rohan to do it is near impossible.

John Rohan is constrained by budgets for this and all the other recreation facilities, it's not that he doesn't want to do what the residents want but if there is no money in the budget for it, it's not going to happen. That is why PWAC and AAC are involved, they set the budgets. The budget process starts for next year in February. Come and give you opinion and put your request in, it would be a first in 5 years that any resident came to a PWAC budget meeting, and asking for something to be added to the budget has yet to happen.

Yes there are no homes directly adjacent to the Rohan Rec Center, yet. The same logic can applied to Colony Rec Center, there are no home near it. Osceola Hills is very near by Rohan and the Village of Chitty Chatty is coming out the ground very quickly on the south side of SR44.

[Topspinmo]

I can't speak to your specific location, but I travel all over the Villages on a frequent basis and I see Pickleball, bocce ball, tennis, and shuffleboard courts wide open with great frequency. I have never had to wait to play Pickleball.

I guess you don’t play open times from 8 to 10 am?

[kansasr]

Or haven't played during stratified play times between 10am and noon.....lines are way worse this year already.

[CFrance]

I want to know what courts toeser never has to wait to play on, because I will go there.

I think what TV never expected was the absolute explosion of the popularity of pickleball, even among the "youths." I took our 45-year-old son out over Christmas and played an hour and a half of singles with him. He'd never played before. (I still can't move, BTW...) He's now back in Indy looking to find a pickleball group to add to his other sports.

[GoPacers]

I want to know what courts toeser never has to wait to play on, because I will go there.

I think what TV never expected was the absolute explosion of the popularity of pickleball, even among the "youths." I took our 45-year-old son out over Christmas and played an hour and a half of singles with him. He'd never played before. (I still can't move, BTW...) He's now back in Indy looking to find a pickleball group to add to his other sports.

There is a pretty good Indy Pickleball Facebook page that your son may want to check out.

Indy Pickleball Public Group | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/509325302468920/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf)

[CFrance]

There is a pretty good Indy Pickleball Facebook page that your son may want to check out.

Indy Pickleball Public Group | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/509325302468920/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf)
Thanks, I will send that to him.

[dlbrpt444]

There are always a lot of courts available. Have do do some homework and be willing to get in golf cart/car and find

[Topspinmo]

There are always a lot of courts available. Have do do some homework and be willing to get in golf cart/car and find

Those aren’t pickleball courts. There horseshoes pits:1rotfl: