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EdFNJ
01-03-2019, 03:32 PM
Do water filters help? You decide!
Just changed my filter set after about 11 months. Just 2 of us with relatively low water use (other than lots of flushing!). The bright white one in front is obviously the new one. The one on right is 1st in line (25micron, the 2nd is 10micron and the final filter is 5micron carbon block.). All that gunk would have been in our clothes, food & hair. Yuch. I cut open the first one and the dirt goes about 95% through it. This is not an advertisement for any particular filter so brand is not listed.We live in Amelia near Colony if it matters.
https://i.ibb.co/gwSHPmM/2019-01-03-13-34-19.jpg
Kahuna32162
01-03-2019, 08:27 PM
We've had Nova water filtration systems in both of the homes we've owned here in TV. Wouldn't be without them.
vintageogauge
01-03-2019, 08:34 PM
They do the trick. We have the Nova filters as well as their softener system which really made a difference in the water quality.
Garywt
01-03-2019, 09:32 PM
Where is your filter located, in the garage? Are they easy to connect? Would this go before or after a water softener. Thanks
eweissenbach
01-03-2019, 09:43 PM
Check out Skip Smith on YouTube. Skip just did a video in the last couple days with the owner of Nova changing his filters and discussing them as well as the water softener.
EdFNJ
01-03-2019, 10:07 PM
Where is your filter located, in the garage? Are they easy to connect? Would this go before or after a water softener. Thanks
I would assume before (why would you send dirty water to the softener?) but not sure. Mine is in my garage where main water valve is located. It could be anywhere BEFORE the first faucet.
CFrance
01-03-2019, 11:10 PM
They do the trick. We have the Nova filters as well as their softener system which really made a difference in the water quality.
We do too. Just had both installed a few weeks ago. We've used water softeners since the mid '80s, and also a water filter in our first TV house, but the Nova system with water softener (we use potassium chloride, not salt) is a huge improvement over anything we've ever had.
The water tastes amazing. Showering with the potassium chlorided water as opposed to the salt leaves you feeling squeaky clean.
Rango
01-04-2019, 07:07 AM
Has anyone sent a used filter to a lab to see what is in it?
bonrich
01-04-2019, 07:48 AM
We have used Nova system for the last two years and are very happy. Had difficulty getting past the taste and now, no problem. Also,do not need to have a water filter in our refrigerator since all our potable water is filtered as it enters the house. Did not see a need for water softener system at this time.
graciegirl
01-04-2019, 07:56 AM
I have heard good things from friends who have a Nova Water Filter.
My question is does it get rid of (what I think is) Calcium that leave residue and deposits on everything?
photo1902
01-04-2019, 07:59 AM
I have heard good things from friends who have a Nova Water Filter.
My question is does it get rid of (what I think is) Calcium that leave residue and deposits on everything?
Nope.
vintageogauge
01-04-2019, 08:52 AM
Nope.
I have to differ with that. the main reason we wanted the softener was to get rid of the white residue around our bronze fixtures, it ended immediately and have not had a calcium build up or iron stains anywhere since installing the Nova softener and filter system, it has been well over a year since the installation. We too use the potassium pellets and noticed the difference as soon as we used the shower for the first time. Water tastes great, ice cubes are clear and the Nova system is so much less expensive than the others brands that are offered around town. we have no regrets whatsoever.
rtime
01-04-2019, 09:33 AM
Those look exactly like the one they pull out of ours. I called the water department to see why there is so much sediment in the water and they told me that was normal. They were going to have a manager call, but that has happen after a week.
Really glad we have ours, no stinky water and you can actually drink it.
Skip's video was great.
CFrance
01-04-2019, 09:55 AM
I have to differ with that. the main reason we wanted the softener was to get rid of the white residue around our bronze fixtures, it ended immediately and have not had a calcium build up or iron stains anywhere since installing the Nova softener and filter system, it has been well over a year since the installation. We too use the potassium pellets and noticed the difference as soon as we used the shower for the first time. Water tastes great, ice cubes are clear and the Nova system is so much less expensive than the others brands that are offered around town. we have no regrets whatsoever.
But you won't get rid of all the calcium deposits with just the water filter. It takes the softener along with it to get rid of the calcium deposits.
jimbo2012
01-04-2019, 10:11 AM
I have heard good things from friends who have a Nova Water Filter.
My question is does it get rid of (what I think is) Calcium that leave residue and deposits on everything?
Nope.
I get this question almost every day.
Here's the breakdown of the spots, 10-15% calcium, 85-90% sediment.
The sediment sticks to the calcium, without a softener the Nova WHF will remove the all the sediment the remaining calcium is almost hard to see with the naked eye.
So two choices, clean it up 6-12 months with CLR for $3
or add a softener in addition to the WHF.
85% of of the homes in the main part of TV use only the WHF 15% added a softener, so it is not mandatory it is an option.
In Fenney the water has a higher calcium level there about 45% have our softener.
Again many are satisfied with just the WHF @ only $575+tax
A softener added to the WHF is $899
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photo1902
01-04-2019, 10:12 AM
I have to differ with that. the main reason we wanted the softener was to get rid of the white residue around our bronze fixtures, it ended immediately and have not had a calcium build up or iron stains anywhere since installing the Nova softener and filter system, it has been well over a year since the installation. We too use the potassium pellets and noticed the difference as soon as we used the shower for the first time. Water tastes great, ice cubes are clear and the Nova system is so much less expensive than the others brands that are offered around town. we have no regrets whatsoever.
My response was to Grace regarding sediment filters preventing calcium deposits. They do not. A water softener can. Two different things.
CFrance
01-04-2019, 10:21 AM
I get this question almost every day.
Here's the breakdown of the spots, 10-15% calcium, 85-90% sediment.
The sediment sticks to the calcium, without a softener the Nova WHF will remove the all the sediment the remaining calcium is almost hard to see with the naked eye.
So two choices, clean it up 6-12 months with CLR for $3
or add a softener in addition to the WHF.
85% of of the homes in the main part of TV use only the WHF 15% added a softener, so it is not mandatory it is an option.
In Fenney the water has a higher calcium level there about 45% have our softener.
Again many are satisfied with just the WHF @ only $575+tax
A softener added to the WHF is $899
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We just moved in to a 6-yr-old house that had no water system previously. CLR is working somewhat to remove the water spots, but it is a struggle and will take awhile. Plus some of the spots have eroded the porcelain sinks.
I can compare prices of water filtration/softener systems because we have had them in every house since the 1980s. The Nova + softener is the least expensive we have ever had, and I believe the water is cleaner and tastes better than we have ever had.
Jimbo gave a good explanation over the phone, presented a couple of choices, and Brad did an excellent installation.
jimbo2012
01-04-2019, 10:39 AM
Where is your filter located, in the garage? Are they easy to connect? Would this go before or after a water softener. Thanks
I would assume before (why would you send dirty water to the softener?) but not sure. Mine is in my garage where main water valve is located. It could be anywhere BEFORE the first faucet.
It can go both ways.
A softener only performs one task capturing calcium & magnesium it is not in any way a filter.
So the sediment just passes thru a softener to be filtered by the WHF.
However, a softener has tiny resin beads a few may flow out.
Having said that, I like the WHF after the softener to filter those out as well if present.
So doing in the reverse order WHF/softener has that one issue
An argument can be made placing the WHF after, that the chlorine will dissolve the salt faster or potassium chloride
I don't think there's any appreciable amount dissolved to concerned with.
Either way will work.
jimbo2012
01-04-2019, 10:40 AM
My response was to Grace regarding sediment filters preventing calcium deposits. They do not. A water softener can. Two different things.
Oh sure, I agree
vintageogauge
01-04-2019, 10:43 AM
But you won't get rid of all the calcium deposits with just the water filter. It takes the softener along with it to get rid of the calcium deposits.
Exactly, that's why we included the softener in our system.
jimbo2012
01-04-2019, 10:46 AM
I recommend after the install using CLR, it works much better NOT diluted.
Be mindful the surface must be kept wet or immersed a full 2-5 minutes.
A plastic bag filled with CLR placed over faucets & shower heads held in place with a twisty tie for 2 minutes
https://www.twotwentyone.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/how-to-remove-calcium-build-up-from-faucet.jpg
upstate
01-05-2019, 09:59 AM
We have the Nova filter system and are very satisfied. Our neighbors tell us there is definitely a difference in the taste of the water. My wife says she can feel the difference in showering and washing her hair. Highly recommended.
EdFNJ
01-05-2019, 10:45 AM
I guess that while we have plenty of sediment in our water as you can see from the photo in the OP we don't seem to have calcium problems here. We moved into a 9 yr old home 2 yrs ago and there were no signs of calcium on any fixtures (and they were obviously "originals") so we don't need a softener. The filter however made a major difference in water quality. Water smelled like a YMCA swimming pool when we moved in.
jimbo2012
01-05-2019, 11:13 AM
the water authority tests the water daily for bacteria counts and adds chlorine accordingly, so it varies in the intensity.
Although chlorine is a poison, and the safety of drinking it can be questioned, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has declared that chlorine in water is safe to drink in small amounts.
But then it's removal would be safer I would think,
Showering with chlorinated water likely leads to more chlorine absorption in the body than drinking water treated with chlorine (according to a study looking at the impact of chlorine byproducts on bodily organs in the case of swimming pool exposure). Additionally, warm water opens up your skin pores and hair follicles, leading to greater exposure when you take a hot shower.
Chlorine and its byproducts strip away the natural hair and skin oils that protect your body from over drying.
Looking at your annual report from the water company there are two "by-products of disinfection" .
It sounds perfectly normal and harmless (according FDA the levels are safe) but they vary the amount of chlorine daily???
TTHM & Haloacetic Acids, google those
The Nova filter removes those and a lot more
EdFNJ
01-06-2019, 12:30 PM
the water authority tests the water daily for bacteria counts and adds chlorine accordingly, so it varies in the intensity. --<clip>--
Well, the first 4 months we lived here (pre-filter) they must have accidentally put in too many tablets! LOL
retiredguy123
01-06-2019, 02:38 PM
I have never had a doctor tell me to buy a water filter or water softener for my house.
CFrance
01-06-2019, 02:47 PM
I have never had a doctor tell me to buy a water filter or water softener for my house.
What about your cleaning lady?:)
MorTech
01-07-2019, 03:16 PM
It's amazing that Michael Phelps isn't dead from Chlorine. He must be Superman :)
Sometimes they have to "shock" the water with chlorine, so chlorine levels can vary greatly.
The county does yearly water purity tests and posts them online. TV water in pretty clean but filters make a big difference in taste and plumbing buildup. I set my water softener to 11 Grains.
jimbo2012
01-07-2019, 03:22 PM
FYI,
Calcium does not build up inside Cpvc or Pvc pipes which almost all homes here have
Rapscallion St Croix
01-07-2019, 03:37 PM
Thumbs up for filters but I am not a fan of soft water showering. Some call the feeling silky, some call it slimy. Seat me with group two.
jimbo2012
01-07-2019, 05:51 PM
Thumbs up for filters but I am not a fan of soft water showering. Some call the feeling silky, some call it slimy.
With a softener, you have two choices to use to regen the resin (or called back washing)
Most common is salt, that will result in "the feeling silky, some call it slimy"
The reaction between a triglyceride molecule (fat) and sodium hydroxide (lye) to make soap yields a molecule of glycerol with three ionically bonded molecules of sodium stearate (the soap part of soap). This sodium salt will give up the sodium ion to water, while the stearate ion will precipitate out of solution if it comes into contact with an ion that binds it more strongly than sodium (such as the magnesium or calcium in hard water).
The magnesium stearate or calcium stearate is a waxy solid that you know as soap scum. It can form a ring in your tub, but it rinses off your body. The sodium or potassium in soft water makes it much more unfavorable for the sodium stearate to give up its sodium ion so that it can form an insoluble compound and get rinsed away.
Instead, the stearate clings to the slightly charged surface of your skin. Essentially, soap would rather stick to you than get rinsed away in soft water.
We recommend using Potassium chloride rather than salt to eliminate that slippery-when wet feeling after rinsing the soap off. Also you're not adding salt to your drinking water.
During the softening process, sodium is released from the exchange media into the output water. For every grain of hardness removed from water,
8 mg/1 (ppm) of sodium is added. People on restricted sodium intake diets should account for increased levels of sodium in softened water. Your family physician should be consulted.
Sodium intake from softened water can be avoided by have a reverse osmosis kitchen tap drinking and cooking.
Substituting potassium chloride for sodium chloride may be appropriate if health or environmental reasons necessitate restricting sodium.
Potassium chloride is more expensive and adheres more strongly to the resin, reducing the exchange efficiency when compared with sodium chloride.
Salt is about $7 a bag Potassium is $30
EdFNJ
01-07-2019, 06:22 PM
It's amazing that Michael Phelps isn't dead from Chlorine. He must be Superman :)
Sometimes they have to "shock" the water with chlorine, so chlorine levels can vary greatly.
The county does yearly water purity tests and posts them online. TV water in pretty clean but filters make a big difference in taste and plumbing buildup. I set my water softener to 11 Grains. My problem isn't with the chlorine as an additive as I am sure it won't make me sick because it is controlled (famous last words), the problem for me is it stinks and it kills my wife's hair. By getting rid of the chlorine both those problems have been noticeably solved. Let them clean the water up to my front door, that's wonderful, but once it gets in my house I don't want it. I'm thankful the "county does yearly testing" but many things could possibly happen in the 364 days they do not test like using more than needed on any of those days.
thetruth
01-07-2019, 08:14 PM
We just moved in to a 6-yr-old house that had no water system previously. CLR is working somewhat to remove the water spots, but it is a struggle and will take awhile. Plus some of the spots have eroded the porcelain sinks.
I can compare prices of water filtration/softener systems because we have had them in every house since the 1980s. The Nova + softener is the least expensive we have ever had, and I believe the water is cleaner and tastes better than we have ever had.
Jimbo gave a good explanation over the phone, presented a couple of choices, and Brad did an excellent installation.
Porcelain is essentially a glass coating on metal. You may have a calcium coating on your sink but it has not eroded the sink-it is a coating on the sink. Try using vinegar on it. Do not use vinegar with chlorine bleach as it will release chlorine gas. You can also use vinegar to clean shower heads etc.
retiredguy123
01-07-2019, 08:33 PM
To remove calcium deposits from porcelain sinks and toilets, buy a pumice stone at the swimming pool section at Home Depot or at ACE Hardware. Get it wet and gently rub it on the deposits. It works WAY better than CLR or vinegar. But, I wouldn't use it on a shower head or faucet. I had heavy calcium deposits on my toilet bowls, and they were sparkling clean in less than 10 minutes.
New Englander
01-08-2019, 10:45 AM
With a softener, you have two choices to use to regen the resin (or called back washing)
Most common is salt, that will result in "the feeling silky, some call it slimy"
The reaction between a triglyceride molecule (fat) and sodium hydroxide (lye) to make soap yields a molecule of glycerol with three ionically bonded molecules of sodium stearate (the soap part of soap). This sodium salt will give up the sodium ion to water, while the stearate ion will precipitate out of solution if it comes into contact with an ion that binds it more strongly than sodium (such as the magnesium or calcium in hard water).
The magnesium stearate or calcium stearate is a waxy solid that you know as soap scum. It can form a ring in your tub, but it rinses off your body. The sodium or potassium in soft water makes it much more unfavorable for the sodium stearate to give up its sodium ion so that it can form an insoluble compound and get rinsed away.
Instead, the stearate clings to the slightly charged surface of your skin. Essentially, soap would rather stick to you than get rinsed away in soft water.
We recommend using Potassium chloride rather than salt to eliminate that slippery-when wet feeling after rinsing the soap off. Also you're not adding salt to your drinking water.
During the softening process, sodium is released from the exchange media into the output water. For every grain of hardness removed from water,
8 mg/1 (ppm) of sodium is added. People on restricted sodium intake diets should account for increased levels of sodium in softened water. Your family physician should be consulted.
Sodium intake from softened water can be avoided by have a reverse osmosis kitchen tap drinking and cooking.
Substituting potassium chloride for sodium chloride may be appropriate if health or environmental reasons necessitate restricting sodium.
Potassium chloride is more expensive and adheres more strongly to the resin, reducing the exchange efficiency when compared with sodium chloride.
Salt is about $7 a bag Potassium is $30
I've never had a water softener so I'm wondering how long this potassium chloride lasts in the system? How often do you have to add more to the system?
jimbo2012
01-08-2019, 09:07 PM
I've never had a water softener so I'm wondering how long this potassium chloride lasts in the system? How often do you have to add more to the system?
Same amount of time/gallons as salt, some softeners (not ours) may require a programming change, the frequency to add depends on water use and the size of the resin bed.
Using potassium chloride may be appropriate if health or environmental reasons necessitate restricting sodium.
Potassium is an essential mineral for plants; whereas, sodium can damage plant tissues.
When the softener re-generates it creates waste water,
this diluted wastewater is beneficial to a shrubs, plants & grass covered drain field.
http://www.novafiltration.com/nova-water-softener/
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New Englander
01-09-2019, 08:29 AM
Same amount of time/gallons as salt, some softeners (not ours) may require a programming change, the frequency to add depends on water use and the size of the resin bed.
Using potassium chloride may be appropriate if health or environmental reasons necessitate restricting sodium.
Potassium is an essential mineral for plants; whereas, sodium can damage plant tissues.
When the softener re-generates it creates waste water,
this diluted wastewater is beneficial to a shrubs, plants & grass covered drain field.
http://www.novafiltration.com/nova-water-softener/
.https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/attachments/water-filtration-systems-311/77972d1546268938-nova-new-compact-system-normal-jpg
How long would a bag of Potassium last? A week, month, six months?
jimbo2012
01-09-2019, 08:56 AM
How long would a bag of Potassium last? A week, month, six months?
As I said it depends how much water you use.
For example some homes use 1,500 Gallons a month some 4,000
On average the tank starts off with two bags that will last 4-5 months. 6-8 bags a year approximately
You're more than welcome to call with for detailed info if you wish
352.566.2649
Bob
Viperguy
01-09-2019, 10:35 AM
I use tap water unfiltered for everything. Just saying
TimeForChange
01-10-2019, 10:31 AM
Been here seven years. Only water filter we have is on the refrigerator. Paying hundreds or even thousands for filter systems is a scam and a ripoff. My drinking water is mostly Pellegrino.
rexxfan
01-10-2019, 05:00 PM
Been here seven years. Only water filter we have is on the refrigerator. Paying hundreds or even thousands for filter systems is a scam and a ripoff. My drinking water is mostly Pellegrino.
Honestly it depends on what you like. For us, the convenience of getting clean, good tasting water from every tap rather than having to run to the fridge is more than worth the cost of installing and maintaining a filter system. Ditto a softener. Saying it is a scam and a ripoff is a bit harsh. I think what you really meant was for you, its not worth the cost, and that's fine. For us, it is and having a quality source for installation, service and support like Nova is great. There may be other less-than-reputable companies that try to sell you something you don't want or need based on fear, uncertainty and doubt, but I've never had anything but a positive experience with Nova. I give them high marks for honesty, integrity and responsiveness.
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EdFNJ
01-10-2019, 06:06 PM
Been here seven years. Only water filter we have is on the refrigerator. Paying hundreds or even thousands for filter systems is a scam and a ripoff. My drinking water is mostly Pellegrino.
:blahblahblah: In YOUR OPINION. RIght?
BRN_RI_FL
01-11-2019, 06:28 AM
Check out the documentary, “Tapped”, on amazon prime and YouTube. I’ve always been a bottled water guy. Now considering water filtration system.
Challenger
01-11-2019, 06:36 AM
Been here seven years. Only water filter we have is on the refrigerator. Paying hundreds or even thousands for filter systems is a scam and a ripoff. My drinking water is mostly Pellegrino.
Have lived in 11 different homes over 80 yrs scattered up and down East Coast, have never had filtration except on Fridge. Never felt the need. :a040:
retiredguy123
01-11-2019, 07:07 AM
Have lived in 11 different homes over 80 yrs scattered up and down East Coast, have never had filtration except on Fridge. Never felt the need. :a040:
I have never had a water filter or softener either. The worst water I ever experienced was in Saudi Arabia, where taking a shower made your skin turn white with calcium deposits. But, I survived a year there. Compared to most other places, I think The Villages has pretty good water. I don't fault someone from buying a filter or softener. But, personally, I don't think I could be convinced that the filter or softener cannot adversely affect the safety of the water, which I believe is already safe to use without any treatment.
Bay Kid
01-11-2019, 07:49 AM
NOVA water filters. Just look at my filters when changed. Dirty water.
jimbo2012
01-11-2019, 09:43 AM
FYI, we will be at the Chile cook off in Lake Sumter Feb 2 stop by to discuss our systems or just say hello.
EdFNJ
01-11-2019, 06:10 PM
I have never had a water filter or softener either. The worst water I ever experienced was in Saudi Arabia, where taking a shower made your skin turn white with calcium deposits. But, I survived a year there. Compared to most other places, I think The Villages has pretty good water. I don't fault someone from buying a filter or softener. But, personally, I don't think I could be convinced that the filter or softener cannot adversely affect the safety of the water, which I believe is already safe to use without any treatment.
For me it had nothing to do with the safety of the water which I am sure is perfectly safe but was to get rid of the swimming pool smell and taste of the chlorine which according to my wife was killing her hair. Getting all the sediment gunk out was an extra bonus (see photo in OP). After the filter even I was able to notice the difference in her hair and the very expensive color she gets in it lasted longer. Happy wife happy life. ;)
Nucky
01-11-2019, 10:36 PM
I've finally scheduled our installation for the end of the month. I've been wanting to get around to it for close to two years and just kept putting it off. You should get a Commission EdFNJ. LOL. Your post made me cross this off my to do list. Not only do people that I know love the Nova System We've about had it with humping cases of Aquafina around the house. We use an average of 10 cases a month so $40 a month on bottled water plus I have a Car now not a Van, a little rough for me to complete this mission every month as far as transportation and my back is Jacked Up already.
When my wife drank the tap water at a friend's home that has the Nova Filter that did the trick. Can't wait. My eyes always bother me after showering. It always turns my eyes red and makes me look like I'm ripped but I don't drink.
PoolBrews
01-12-2019, 09:50 PM
I looked at the Nova WHF... and the specs and design look remarkably (actually nearly exactly) like the Express Water Whole House Water Filter, 3 Stage Home Water Filtration System, Sediment, Charcoal, Carbon Filters. You can get one for $399 on Amazon... and it should take all of a couple of hours to install yourself. I have one on the way!
EdFNJ
01-12-2019, 10:26 PM
I looked at the Nova WHF... and the specs and design look remarkably (actually nearly exactly) like the Express Water Whole House Water Filter, 3 Stage Home Water Filtration System, Sediment, Charcoal, Carbon Filters. You can get one for $399 on Amazon... and it should take all of a couple of hours to install yourself. I have one on the way!
True, but the "average The Villages resident" probably couldn't.
Cutting into that short not so easily accessible line inside the wall behind the 10" square panel made me nervous in case I slipped up. Also the filter media selection is different on AMZ (which probably doesn't matter).
UpNorth
01-13-2019, 02:01 PM
Been here seven years. Only water filter we have is on the refrigerator. Paying hundreds or even thousands for filter systems is a scam and a ripoff. My drinking water is mostly Pellegrino.
That's where I go to fill my glass. I change the filter often. Much cheaper than one of these "whole house" systems. My car doesn't care what kind of water I wash it with.
photo1902
01-13-2019, 02:11 PM
That's where I go to fill my glass. I change the filter often. Much cheaper than one of these "whole house" systems. My car doesn't care what kind of water I wash it with.
:clap2:
EdFNJ
01-13-2019, 04:31 PM
That's where I go to fill my glass. I change the filter often. Much cheaper than one of these "whole house" systems. My car doesn't care what kind of water I wash it with. True but with the WHF you don't have to have a fridge filter . That saves a couple bucks 2x a year. I didn't care too much but my wife didn't like the chlorine or bathing in the brown stuff that came out of the faucets and now are stuck in the filter. :D
PoolBrews
01-13-2019, 06:41 PM
If you brew beer, you need to get 5 gallons of filtered water each time you brew. That takes a loooong time from my fridge. A whole home filter makes this process much easier! Also, the hot tub likes filtered water (easier to balance), and then you get cleaner water for showering, washing your clothes, your dishes, etc.
toeser
01-14-2019, 06:51 AM
We have a two-stage water filtration system. One for sediment and the second is a carbon filter. We change our filters about every six weeks. I cannot imagine using water in TV without filtration.
Crobar
01-14-2019, 07:45 AM
I have nova also and see no need for a softener. The taste is great now. Neither do I see a problem with calcium ort any build up.
OhioBuckeye
01-14-2019, 08:03 AM
The only thing that I don't like about the water here in The Villages is the taste of the drinking water. When you get a glass of water to drink, all you can smell is the Chlorine & taste it. I always run my drinking water in a pitcher that I bought with a filter in it. Just my opinion, the water to me isn't that good. Also the toilets always gets a black ring at the water line.
Bay Kid
01-14-2019, 08:17 AM
I use a Pure Wash system for my washing machine, no hot water and no detergent. It kept stopping up until I installed my Nova system. Worked perfect ever since. No chorine smell. Being from the country I hate the pool smell in my water.
gharper
01-14-2019, 11:56 AM
I would recommend you have two filter canisters. Put a white 5 micron in canister #1, and a carbon filter in canister #2. You can then change the primary filter sooner and get more mileage out of the carbon filter.
jimbo2012
01-14-2019, 12:20 PM
I would recommend you have two filter canisters. Put a white 5 micron in canister #1, and a carbon filter in canister #2. You can then change the primary filter sooner and get more mileage out of the carbon filter.
That is incorrect please rely on people doing for 40+ years,
Do you think all carbon is the same?
It's not
Our carbon is costs about $60 the highest grade carbon made for us for over 18 years,
you can buy cheap carbon for $20 it may look the similar but it will not filter out the impurities ours does or last as long
Get the best it's your health
A two stage filter doesn't effectively work in TV, especially the 2"X10"
We replace those a lot.
see pic look at the size and capacity difference
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zo6dvyez5v/product_images/uploaded_images/kiely.jpg
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zo6dvyez5v/product_images/uploaded_images/kiely3.jpg
see the internal filter size the 10" are thin wall like like a cardboard roll for paper towels
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zo6dvyez5v/product_images/uploaded_images/kiely2.jpg
Filtration is based on the quality of the elements and size or surface area both of which the 10" don't have
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Back9
01-14-2019, 01:41 PM
I looked for the video -- couldn't find it. Could you post a link?
Kenswing
01-14-2019, 01:42 PM
I looked for the video -- couldn't find it. Could you post a link?
The Nova Water Filtration System - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SmQw9uGX94)
Engine12
01-14-2019, 08:37 PM
What is the cost of replacing all 3 NOVA filters and how many times a year ? Thanks !
jimbo2012
01-14-2019, 08:40 PM
What is the cost of replacing all 3 NOVA filters and how many times a year ? Thanks !
The filters are $85 for a set of all three
it's not how many times a year, filters go by gallons of throughput not time
About 26,000 on average 9-12 months refer to your bills for useage
Engine12
01-14-2019, 08:44 PM
The filters are $85 for a set of all three
it's not how many times a year, filters go by gallons of throughput not time
About 26,000 on average 9-12 months refer to your bills for useage
Thank you !
junction29
01-15-2019, 10:56 AM
That is incorrect please rely on people doing for 40+ years,
Do you think all carbon is the same?
It's not
Our carbon is costs about $60 the highest grade carbon made for us for over 18 years,
you can buy cheap carbon for $20 it may look the similar but it will not filter out the impurities ours does or last as long
Get the best it's your health
A two stage filter doesn't effectively work in TV, especially the 2"X10"
We replace those a lot.
see pic look at the size and capacity difference
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zo6dvyez5v/product_images/uploaded_images/kiely.jpg
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zo6dvyez5v/product_images/uploaded_images/kiely3.jpg
see the internal filter size the 10" are thin wall like like a cardboard roll for paper towels
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zo6dvyez5v/product_images/uploaded_images/kiely2.jpg
Filtration is based on the quality of the elements and size or surface area both of which the 10" don't have
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I am totally baffled why anyone living in TV would not want a whole house water filter system fitting, as the water taste and quality here (before having our system fitted) was terrible.
We looked at a load of systems before choosing Nova Filtration and why anyone would choose anything else is crazy.
No, I am not on commission, but I will state right here and now that in my humble opinion, Nova Filtration have the best water system and the best, most affordable, most honest hard working company in TV.
:bigbow:
photo1902
01-15-2019, 11:25 AM
I am totally baffled why anyone living in TV would not want a whole house water filter system fitting, as the water taste and quality here (before having our system fitted) was terrible.
We looked at a load of systems before choosing Nova Filtration and why anyone would choose anything else is crazy.
No, I am not on commission, but I will state right here and now that in my humble opinion, Nova Filtration have the best water system and the best, most affordable, most honest hard working company in TV.
:bigbow:
Because there are a great number of us who find the water here fine. Nothing against water filter companies, but just because you find unfiltered water not drinkable, doesn't mean everyone does. Not to mention, a Brita pitcher for water is an option.
retiredguy123
01-15-2019, 11:30 AM
I rarely even use the filtered refrigerator water because I find the tap water to be good to drink.
CFrance
01-15-2019, 12:23 PM
That's where I go to fill my glass. I change the filter often. Much cheaper than one of these "whole house" systems. My car doesn't care what kind of water I wash it with.
My refrigerator water won't wash my hair and keep it from being too dry/frizzy, or get my white clothes clean enough, or keep my skin from itching after showering.
photo1902
01-15-2019, 12:25 PM
My refrigerator water won't wash my hair and keep it from being too dry/frizzy, or get my white clothes clean enough, or keep my skin from itching after showering.
No whole house filter here, and neither the wife or I experience the myriad of problems you just listed.
CFrance
01-15-2019, 12:37 PM
No whole house filter here, and neither the wife or I experience the myriad of problems you just listed.
Good for you. That doesn't negate my particular circumstances. A WHF did.
New Englander
01-15-2019, 01:25 PM
Good for you. That doesn't negate my particular circumstances. A WHF did.
Do you have a water softener as well as the WHF?
jimbo2012
01-15-2019, 01:29 PM
It works out about 15% in main part of TV have them
and 50% in Fenney
retiredguy123
01-15-2019, 01:43 PM
Do the water filter and softener salespeople comply with The Villages solicitation rules? Just curious.
jimbo2012
01-15-2019, 02:18 PM
We don't have sales people knocking on doors.
CFrance
01-15-2019, 04:32 PM
Do you have a water softener as well as the WHF?
Yes, we had both installed together. In the softener we use potassium chloride. In our former systems we always used salt, but it affected the taste of the water.
I didn't mind the "slimy" feel with the salt; I would have called it a silky feel. And it did not leave any water spots at all, period. But my husband thought it felt slimy and is much happier with the potassium chloride. And the water spots are few.
junction29
01-18-2019, 03:45 PM
Yes, we had both installed together. In the softener we use potassium chloride. In our former systems we always used salt, but it affected the taste of the water.
I didn't mind the "slimy" feel with the salt; I would have called it a silky feel. And it did not leave any water spots at all, period. But my husband thought it felt slimy and is much happier with the potassium chloride. And the water spots are few.
We don’t have a water softener just the Nova whole house system and the water feels and tastes just fine :BigApplause:
Larrykins
01-21-2019, 09:20 PM
Do water filters help? You decide!
Just changed my filter set after about 11 months. Just 2 of us with relatively low water use (other than lots of flushing!). The bright white one in front is obviously the new one. The one on right is 1st in line (25micron, the 2nd is 10micron and the final filter is 5micron carbon block.). All that gunk would have been in our clothes, food & hair. Yuch. I cut open the first one and the dirt goes about 95% through it. This is not an advertisement for any particular filter so brand is not listed.We live in Amelia near Colony if it matters.
https://i.ibb.co/gwSHPmM/2019-01-03-13-34-19.jpg
We change our particle filter and carbon filter every 6 months. Both are fully worn out and full of bad stuff.
EdFNJ
01-21-2019, 11:26 PM
We change our particle filter and carbon filter every 6 months. Both are fully worn out and full of bad stuff. Is that from a NOVA system or other type? That seems WAY to often for a Nova. I check my water meter every few months and I don't come close to their "suggested gallons of use" even at a year. They are supposed to get dirty. :D
JimJohnson
01-22-2019, 05:36 AM
We have an in-line charcoal filter that removes unpleasant smell and one fiber filter that removes sand etc. Very inexpensive and easy maint.
Nucky
01-31-2019, 11:39 PM
We just had the NOVA triple filter installed a few days ago. The difference is remarkable. Everyone picked out the old water easily. My wife is a wonderful person but tough. I saved a half a gallon of water from before Brad installed our unit to do the comparison test. My wife said the NOVA water from our tap was better than the Aquafina we have been using since forever. 12 cases of Aquafina a month equal $48 a month. In a year we have the investment back. Taking a shower is great, no smell in the water and my eyes don't look like I puffed on something that was illegal all over our country a short time ago. My eyes were burning and really red. Not anymore.
Shame on me for delaying. I hear and am happy for those who drink the water without filtering and have no problems, Bravo. In my estimation, this is one of those little luxuries that is just wonderful. Can't wait to see how much better the clothes come out of the washer. Brad did a great job and Bob was very helpful on the phone. Glad to be a part of the family.
No more carrying cases of water from Sam's to the house. I'm not getting any younger you know.
jimbo2012
02-01-2019, 08:01 AM
Thanks for those kinds words of support
jimbo2012
02-01-2019, 08:06 AM
FYI, Nova will be at the Chili cook off tomorrow at the Sumter Sq booth #148 near City Fire/ Red Sauce
Stop by say hello
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