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TonysMom
01-07-2019, 06:24 PM
I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.

dewilson58
01-07-2019, 06:58 PM
All depends on crabby neighbors.





:pray:

graciegirl
01-07-2019, 07:06 PM
I think most people are very animal friendly here in The Villages. I think the rule is in place so people do not abuse it and have lots of critters that might be a nuisance.

I also think that some people fear all dogs and can and will "turn you in".

Mortal1
01-07-2019, 07:13 PM
Contrary to some I don't think it has a thing to do with crabby neighbors as much as dog poo/pee and barking. Personally I have no issue with their rules and regs and if someone does perhaps they should move on to some place more suited to their lifestyle.

If I know someone is breaking the rules and it impacts my quietude and life style you're darn tootin I'll turn them in.

Nucky
01-07-2019, 07:20 PM
All depends on crabby neighbors.





:pray:

Two Crabby Neighbors and one Dog is One over the Limit! Somebody has to Go!

Live & Let Live! To the OP I would say go for it. If you have a neighbor without a pup maybe you could work something out that the third one could technically be theirs. Gotta think outta the box. :boxing2: Fight for that Doggie. :boxing2:

CWGUY
01-07-2019, 07:34 PM
Two Crabby Neighbors and one Dog is One over the Limit! Somebody has to Go!

Live & Let Live! To the OP I would say go for it. If you have a neighbor without a pup maybe you could work something out that the third one could technically be theirs. Gotta think outta the box. :boxing2: Fight for that Doggie. :boxing2:

:thumbup: If you fib and say it's yours..... I'll swear to it that it is! :doggie:

Mleeja
01-07-2019, 07:39 PM
Dogs are to not be over “x” pounds either. However, there are large and small dog parks... If the dogs are quite and you don’t let them pee or poo in the neighbors yard, you shouldn’t have any problems. I am willing to bet my wife’s SS check there are TV residents that have more than two dogs/pets.

BK001
01-07-2019, 07:49 PM
. . . If I know someone is breaking the rules and it impacts my quietude and life style you're darn tootin I'll turn them in.

Two Crabby Neighbors and one Dog is One over the Limit! Somebody has to Go! :boxing2: Fight for that Doggie. :boxing2:

Well Nucky you know I always agree with you and I am soooo "live and let live". I also try to be considerate and will blast NEITHER Emimim NOR Turandot NOR Guys and Dolls NOR The soundtrack from Rent NOR CNN News on my lanai.

But put a neighbor dog next to me that barks all day and all night long, day in and day out, I may just become a different person and look for any way that I could silence the animal including reporting the person if they had more than 2. (And I do love dogs and still grieve the loss of our 14-year old Luca.) A constantly barking dog puts my nerves on edge and that's not what I want for my retirement. (Still friends?) . LOL

rustyp
01-07-2019, 07:53 PM
BS - Follow the rules. Were they hidden when you signed the purchase offer ?

BK001
01-07-2019, 08:07 PM
Well Nucky you know I always agree with you and I am soooo "live and let live". I also try to be considerate and will blast NEITHER Emimim NOR Turandot NOR Guys and Dolls NOR The soundtrack from Rent NOR CNN News on my lanai.

But put a neighbor dog next to me that barks all day and all night long, day in and day out, I may just become a different person and look for any way that I could silence the animal including reporting the person if they had more than 2. (And I do love dogs and still grieve the loss of our 14-year old Luca.) A constantly barking dog puts my nerves on edge and that's not what I want for my retirement. (Still friends?) . LOL


I need to add -- this did not happen in The Villages but back in Brooklyn. And fortunately, the dog owners, who were low life tenants in an absentee landlord house near ours, were evicted after close to a nightmarish year whereby we could not enjoy our beautiful oasis of a yard. And yes we spoke to the owners, we called the landlord, called animal control and did everything short of taking a contract out on them! But they persisted in leaving the poor thing out in their yard 24-7. LOL - Did we celebrate when they finally were gone? You bet we did!

tag460
01-07-2019, 09:56 PM
Just follow the rules or move its that simple.

VillageIdiots
01-07-2019, 10:02 PM
I would like to simply say “rules are rules, obey them”. But I have seen people in a brand new neighborhood with more than 2 dogs. I was told they were allowed to buy a home with more than 2 dogs with the caveat that once they no longer exceed the limit with the dogs they moved in with, they could no longer have more than 2. So, at least one side is allowed to bend the rules when it benefits them. But I also recently heard a story of a woman that moved away because she was reported (notorious crabby neighbors) for having more than the limit and either the extra animal had to go or all of them had to. She chose the latter. I know for me, personally, I don’t want to have to make that choice, so while I give credit to anyone rescuing animals, especially dogs, I would still recommend abiding by the rules you agreed to when you moved in.

As for the original question, and has been eluded to, most of your deed restrictions are subject to enforcement only after complaint by neighbors. So if and how far you can bend them is highly dependent on them. And you never know who they will be tomorrow or a year from now.

Deed restrictions can vary from one district to another. I believe some are limited to only 1 pet. Find them, read them, and then it’s up to you to decide whether anything you do to break them is worth the risk/price.

Nucky
01-07-2019, 10:12 PM
Well Nucky you know I always agree with you and I am soooo "live and let live". I also try to be considerate and will blast NEITHER Emimim NOR Turandot NOR Guys and Dolls NOR The soundtrack from Rent NOR CNN News on my lanai.

But put a neighbor dog next to me that barks all day and all night long, day in and day out, I may just become a different person and look for any way that I could silence the animal including reporting the person if they had more than 2. (And I do love dogs and still grieve the loss of our 14-year old Luca.) A constantly barking dog puts my nerves on edge and that's not what I want for my retirement. (Still friends?) . LOL

Oh yeah, I was envisioning a proper dog owner who controls their animals in every way. No way does that yapper thing fly even if its only one pup.

I love the name of your dog. Luca, definitely in the running. If our dog is a little slow then Freddo. :1rotfl:

CWGUY
01-07-2019, 10:17 PM
Nothing happens to Freddo while my mother is alive! :ho:

CFrance
01-07-2019, 10:21 PM
I would like to simply say “rules are rules, obey them”. But I have seen people in a brand new neighborhood with more than 2 dogs. I was told they were allowed to buy a home with more than 2 dogs with the caveat that once they no longer exceed the limit with the dogs they moved in with, they could no longer have more than 2. So, at least one side is allowed to bend the rules when it benefits them. But I also recently heard a story of a woman that moved away because she was reported (notorious crabby neighbors) for having more than the limit and either the extra animal had to go or all of them had to. She chose the latter. I know for me, personally, I don’t want to have to make that choice, so while I give credit to anyone rescuing animals, especially dogs, I would still recommend abiding by the rules you agreed to when you moved in.

As for the original question, and has been eluded to, most of your deed restrictions are subject to enforcement only after complaint by neighbors. So if and how far you can bend them is highly dependent on them. And you never know who they will be tomorrow or a year from now.

Deed restrictions can vary from one district to another. I believe some are limited to only 1 pet. Find them, read them, and then it’s up to you to decide whether anything you do to break them is worth the risk/price.
What a non-judgemental, informative answer. Very well put.

VillageIdiots
01-07-2019, 10:32 PM
What a non-judgemental, informative answer. Very well put.

CFrance, you seem shocked. LOL

It comes down to asking yourself the following question:

Am I willing to give up an animal or my home?

If the answer is no to either, or both, then follow the rules.

CFrance
01-07-2019, 11:02 PM
CFrance, you seem shocked. LOL

It comes down to asking yourself the following question:

Am I willing to give up an animal or my home?

If the answer is no to either, or both, then follow the rules.
Not at all. I appreciated the non-snarky explanation.

canyonblue
01-08-2019, 12:07 AM
Deleted my original post. It was anger at the people who can't follow rules and I'll leave that tirade to myself.

Bogie Shooter
01-08-2019, 07:36 AM
I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.

Apply this question to a next door neighbor with a car up on cement blocks in his driveway.

BK001
01-08-2019, 07:48 AM
Apply this question to a next door neighbor with a car up on cement blocks in his driveway.

So true. Many years ago we found a beautiful vacation home on a mountain in the Adirondacks. The view was spectacular if you looked past the home right below it that had old cars, refrigerators and other unidentifiable types of rusted machinery spewn on the property reminiscent of Tobacco Road. Needless to say, we did not buy!

I love having the rules here in The Villages. I don't want to live next to a kennel nor a Ceramic Pink Flamingo Farm.

Bay Kid
01-08-2019, 07:56 AM
Restrictions are put in place for all owners protection. If one rule isn't enforced then the balance are in jeopardy. We are given a disclosure package when we contract a home that we must agree to follow. If we don't agree we can be released from the contract.

photo1902
01-08-2019, 08:23 AM
Restrictions are put in place for all owners protection. If one rule isn't enforced then the balance are in jeopardy. We are given a disclosure package when we contract a home that we must agree to follow. If we don't agree we can be released from the contract.

Exactly!

PennBF
01-08-2019, 08:25 AM
Am I the only one that sees the irony in this. The individual is asking, before they move, if they will get caught violating the rules they will commit to? That is scary on many levels. :ohdear:

PennBF
01-08-2019, 08:34 AM
Oop's, should have said "just moved" not that would change anything. :ho:

stan the man
01-08-2019, 08:50 AM
Deleted my original post. It was anger at the people who can't follow rules and I'll leave that tirade to myself.

:bigbow:

VillageIdiots
01-08-2019, 09:35 AM
Am I the only one that sees the irony in this. The individual is asking, before they move, if they will get caught violating the rules they will commit to? That is scary on many levels. :ohdear:

Hey, at least they bothered to ask instead of being one of the few special people that assume the rules are for everyone else, like stop signs and speed limits being merely suggestions, or practicing "creative parking" all over the place.

graciegirl
01-08-2019, 09:55 AM
I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.

Don't break the rule. If someone turned you in, and they have a perfect right to do it, then you and/or the dog would have to go.

There are teeth to all of our deed restrictions. We chose this place because of it.

I don't think the rule will be changed.

Fraugoofy
01-08-2019, 09:59 AM
I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.Rules are rules. Too often people break the rules and get away with it. Why have the rules then? I work in corrections. I know many many people who have broken rules... Peace Out!

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karostay
01-08-2019, 10:00 AM
Just go online and purchase service dog vest. most of the dog owners of the villagers do.

graciegirl
01-08-2019, 10:02 AM
Just go online and purchase service dog vest. most of the dog owners of the villagers do.

No they don't. Not most. Some do and that is wrong.

That isn't even on the subject of this thread. Have a fresh cup of coffee. Happy up!

HogPilot
01-10-2019, 03:23 PM
So true. Many years ago we found a beautiful vacation home on a mountain in the Adirondacks. The view was spectacular if you looked past the home right below it that had old cars, refrigerators and other unidentifiable types of rusted machinery spewn on the property reminiscent of Tobacco Road. Needless to say, we did not buy!

I love having the rules here in The Villages. I don't want to live next to a kennel nor a Ceramic Pink Flamingo Farm.

Same sort of this happened to us when searching for our last house before moving to The Villages. The agent's listing and location seemed perfect for our search criteria. We drove up to the house, got out of the car to view the home and we heard a dog barking on an adjacent lot. Poor thing chained up outside during the day.

Got back in the car & kept searching.

TonysMom
01-11-2019, 04:53 PM
Thanks to those of you trying to help me and honestly answer my question. I didn't mean to imply that my dogs are left outside to bark and I do pick up their excrement. Neither of those would be appreciated by any neighbor; that goes without saying. I was asking about the strict number of dogs and if any of you who have lived here longer might know of any infractions and repurcussions; that is all

Topspinmo
01-11-2019, 05:28 PM
I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.

Very strict, but nobody polices it.

graciegirl
01-11-2019, 05:35 PM
Thanks to those of you trying to help me and honestly answer my question. I didn't mean to imply that my dogs are left outside to bark and I do pick up their excrement. Neither of those would be appreciated by any neighbor; that goes without saying. I was asking about the strict number of dogs and if any of you who have lived here longer might know of any infractions and repurcussions; that is all

I think you will spare yourself a lot of possible heartache if you just enjoy the two you have.

Fredster
01-11-2019, 06:09 PM
I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.

You apparently know what your deed restrictions are,
but seem to be giving thought to being in violation.
Yes there are many dogs needing a loving home,
but my question is how many would be enough to rescue 3, 4 or ?
As far as the rule being changed, I don’t think that will happen.
Deed restriction violations are a complaint driven system, so if (anyone) complains you will have problems!

papasetti82
01-11-2019, 06:30 PM
Thanks to those of you trying to help me and honestly answer my question. I didn't mean to imply that my dogs are left outside to bark and I do pick up their excrement. Neither of those would be appreciated by any neighbor; that goes without saying. I was asking about the strict number of dogs and if any of you who have lived here longer might know of any infractions and repurcussions; that is all

How do you decide which rules are OK for you to break?
This question also is for all of those that give suggestions for ways to skirt the rules.

Topspinmo
01-11-2019, 06:31 PM
You apparently know what your deed restrictions are,
but seem to be giving thought to being in violation.
Yes there are many dogs needing a loving home,
but my question is how many would be enough to rescue 3, 4 or ?
As far as the rule being changed, I don’t think that will happen.
Deed restriction violations are a complaint driven system, so if (anyone) complains you will have problems!

IMO in closely built community 1 pet should be limit, unless you live on the horse farms.

Fredster
01-11-2019, 07:26 PM
IMO in closely built community 1 pet should be limit, unless you live on the horse farms.

In our group of villas the houses are so close,
and the dogs so many, that the streets become a virtual dog park!

VApeople
01-12-2019, 01:57 PM
If the dogs are quite and you don’t let them pee or poo in the neighbors yard, you shouldn’t have any problems.

That is exactly right.

Our neighbors have three dogs, but their rare barking does not bother me and they ALWAYS do their business in their yard. To my knowledge, the dogs have never set a paw in our yard. Therefore, I will not report them.

If the dogs were a problem, I would report them. I do not like dogs at all.

VApeople
01-12-2019, 02:02 PM
I do pick up their excrement.

Is the excrement and urine ALWAYS on your property?

Two Bills
01-13-2019, 11:29 AM
Our house is in a very live and let live area. (Not on The Hysterical side, that area is a law unto itself.)
Dogs, but only in two's as far as I have seen, a few biggies, and a real soft Pitbull, at least two businesses being run from home, white crosses, Sand Crane garden ornaments ( no pink flamingos yet) and various other infringements, but we all get on and turn the proverbial blind eye.
Works well for us.

Nizolak1979
02-20-2019, 01:07 PM
Like most posters here have said, it really depends on your neighbors. Community Standards will only come knocking if someone reports you. I know this from personal experience. I had some glass flower sculptures in my landscaping - a deed compliance violation based on one, poorly defined sentence in the deed. over 40% of my community has brass birds, whirligigs, concrete statues in their yards. I asked Community Standards why we were being singled out and she replied, "Because someone complained and we are complaint, not compliance driven." So, if you are on good terms with your neighbors and the dogs are well behaved, you should be okay.

Rapscallion St Croix
02-20-2019, 01:14 PM
I strictly adhere to all rules and thus have the world's most boring ant farm.

OrangeBlossomBaby
02-20-2019, 04:04 PM
You already have two, and are hoping to intentionally break the rules to bring in a third. You know that's against the rules, and we know you know it, because you told us you know it. Rescue animals deserve better than to be taken by someone who has an emotional attachment to rescuing animals, only to have to be moved again - or euthanized - because that person is caught breaking the rules and has to abide by the consequences. I would never do that to an animal.

sunburn
02-20-2019, 06:42 PM
Gosh Barney, what village are you in? :-)

villagetinker
02-20-2019, 09:08 PM
I strictly adhere to all rules and thus have the world's most boring ant farm.

I have never seen an ant farm with just TWO ants! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Barefoot
02-20-2019, 09:13 PM
I think you will spare yourself a lot of possible heartache if you just enjoy the two you have.:agree:

Challenger
02-21-2019, 05:07 AM
All depends on crabby neighbors.





:pray:

all depends on behavior of dogs and if the owners are responsible. ie: Noise, excrement, deportment (of dogs and owners).

JimJohnson
02-21-2019, 06:42 AM
I have one rescue and devote all my love and attention to the one. Over my lifetime we have had two at the same time and found that a single dog is happier than two. I think with cats, two is better than one, but dogs do better alone with the humans.

Rules:
1. Always get a rescue.
2. Always spay or neuter.
3. Always use Vet services.

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2019, 07:08 AM
What? Only three rules...……………...

biker1
02-21-2019, 07:25 AM
There was an article in The Daily Sun a year or so ago about a couple with 3 Great Danes. While it is possible that they lived in a Villages that does not have a 2 pet maximum in the deed restrictions, assuming there are such Villages, I suspect that wasn’t the case. Regardless, I believe the pet maximum is an “inside the house” restriction and those are enforced by the Developer and not Community Standards. Someone please post otherwise if they know this is not true.


I just moved here and have two small dogs; I would love to rescue a dog but would be in violation. Is this rule strictly enforced? Is there a chance it might be changed? There are so many dogs out there needing a loving home.

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2019, 09:39 AM
There was an article in The Daily Sun a year or so ago about a couple with 3 Great Danes. While it is possible that they lived in a Villages that does not have a 2 pet maximum in the deed restrictions, assuming there are such Villages, I suspect that wasn’t the case. Regardless, I believe the pet maximum is an “inside the house” restriction and those are enforced by the Developer and not Community Standards. Someone please post otherwise if they know this is not true.

Someone at Community standards can factually answer your question.
Community Standards
Phone: 352-751-3912

biker1
02-21-2019, 09:56 AM
I don’t have a dog in this fight so I have no interests in calling Community Standards. If you are “someone”, please feel free to update us.


Someone at Community standards can factually answer your question.
Community Standards
Phone: 352-751-3912

thetruth
02-21-2019, 01:41 PM
How do you decide which rules are OK for you to break?
This question also is for all of those that give suggestions for ways to skirt the rules.

Have you not noticed that no matter what the issue is people honestly think rules that restrict them are simply wrong. Rules that control things they do not do are not strictly enforced enough.

You will see this same thought on soooo many things. Landscaping, golf cart speeds, young people, relentless parties,
garage sales, motorcycles, dogs, surely I missed a few.

I only wish we were all as perfect as we seem to think we are.

thetruth
02-21-2019, 02:09 PM
Like most posters here have said, it really depends on your neighbors. Community Standards will only come knocking if someone reports you. I know this from personal experience. I had some glass flower sculptures in my landscaping - a deed compliance violation based on one, poorly defined sentence in the deed. over 40% of my community has brass birds, whirligigs, concrete statues in their yards. I asked Community Standards why we were being singled out and she replied, "Because someone complained and we are complaint, not compliance driven." So, if you are on good terms with your neighbors and the dogs are well behaved, you should be okay.

I'm sure this will start a bunch of trouble but my view is that I do not like these anonymous reports. Our legal system says you have the right to face your accuser.

Our neighbor hired a landscaper. There are rules, how far from the property line it needs to be etc. I spoke to him before the job was completed. He spoke to the landscaper and the landscaper refused to correct it. Truth be told he swore, threatened me etc. I told the contractor I was calling the Community Standards. They handled it very well. First they discovered the landscaper had not filed a plan. Secondly he was as I thought in violation. They told my neighbor not to pay him until the corrections were made, he filed a proper plan etc.
My neighbor later told me that he found out the landscaper was arrested for ???????

Neighbor issues can really get out of hand. Not the villages-not even in Florida, I knew a guy who had a tree. The tree had been there for 15-20 years. Someone voiced a complaint. He was sued by the Community Standards. He dug in. Last I heard about it, it was years ago, he had spent about 20,000 in legal bills. On this case, as i told him he was paying attys both for and against his point of view.

Perhaps, the person who addressed my issue. Perhaps, because my neighbor knew it was wrong. BUT, in my case all went well.

TheWarriors
02-21-2019, 03:51 PM
3 dogs and you may as well call it a kennel. And how lucky your neighbors will be to have your 3 dogs pee on their grass every day. The vast majority of homes here really aren’t dog friendly, if they were, dog owners wouldn’t be having their beloved pets pee and poop on other Villagers property.

LoriAnn
02-22-2019, 08:24 PM
It’s a slippery slope when 2 dogs become 3 dogs and then 4 dogs and then.....

Barefoot
02-22-2019, 10:10 PM
3 dogs and you may as well call it a kennel. I was told by our Sales Rep in 2007 that The Villages has deed restrictions
for no other reason than they prohibit owning dogs for breeding purposes.
In a retirement community, I think the two-dog deed restriction is very fair.

Fredster
02-23-2019, 06:42 AM
3 dogs and you may as well call it a kennel. And how lucky your neighbors will be to have your 3 dogs pee on their grass every day. The vast majority of homes here really aren’t dog friendly, if they were, dog owners wouldn’t be having their beloved pets pee and poop on other Villagers property.

:bigbow:

Challenger
02-23-2019, 06:52 AM
I'm sure this will start a bunch of trouble but my view is that I do not like these anonymous reports. Our legal system says you have the right to face your accuser.

Our neighbor hired a landscaper. There are rules, how far from the property line it needs to be etc. I spoke to him before the job was completed. He spoke to the landscaper and the landscaper refused to correct it. Truth be told he swore, threatened me etc. I told the contractor I was calling the Community Standards. They handled it very well. First they discovered the landscaper had not filed a plan. Secondly he was as I thought in violation. They told my neighbor not to pay him until the corrections were made, he filed a proper plan etc.
My neighbor later told me that he found out the landscaper was arrested for ???????

Neighbor issues can really get out of hand. Not the villages-not even in Florida, I knew a guy who had a tree. The tree had been there for 15-20 years. Someone voiced a complaint. He was sued by the Community Standards. He dug in. Last I heard about it, it was years ago, he had spent about 20,000 in legal bills. On this case, as i told him he was paying attys both for and against his point of view.

Perhaps, the person who addressed my issue. Perhaps, because my neighbor knew it was wrong. BUT, in my case all went well.

When you buy real property it is your responsibility to know the law and rules governing. Blame your realtor or lawyer or brother in law, but owners are ultimately and legally responsible. Two dogs is enough. Prohibited yard décor is prohibited, unapproved additions are subject to removal action. Why is this so had to understand. The rule of law is what really makes this country better than others

billethkid
02-23-2019, 07:15 AM
3 dogs and you may as well call it a kennel. And how lucky your neighbors will be to have your 3 dogs pee on their grass every day. The vast majority of homes here really aren’t dog friendly, if they were, dog owners wouldn’t be having their beloved pets pee and poop on other Villagers property.

As I usually try to do, call attention to the fact that there are only "SOME" dog owners letting their dogs pee and poop on others property.

The other 90% of us dog owners do the right thing.

When all gets said and done there are very few triple or more dog owners in TV. And as we all know whether a violation or not is all a function of whether anybody turns in a complaint.

JCMSr
02-23-2019, 06:55 PM
I commend the OP for wanting to rescue any pet and provide them with a loving home. That said, however, the post clearly states that they are aware of the 2 pet restriction but are possibly considering ignoring it. Many replies have given creative suggestions on how to beat the system while others have correctly stated that although you may never be caught it is still in violation of your restrictive covenants. In this instance the issue is pets, although it could be about numerous other issues covered by this document. Obviously, the developers do not have an anti pet attitude but they have certainly learned a thing or two over the years about people's tendencies to carry things a little too far if given enough leave way. Attitudes on this subject will vary from one pet is too many all the way up to "the more the merrier".

Every day as I ride around our beautiful community I see violation after violation. Do I report the offenders? Not yet, however, if the violation is severe enough where I feel that it will threaten the value of my property I would absolutely file a complaint. Most people think it is silly to have a restriction that says property owner's cannot have lawn ornaments and think their tastes should be acceptable to everyone. Have you ever driven through the mountains and seen sculpture's made from large logs. Although the artists who make these items are highly talented I do not want a family of wooden bears in my neighbors front yard.

The majority of property owners in our community drive automobiles. Each time we get behind the wheel and start down the road we are aware(hopefully) of the speed limit. Although there may be times that we make a conscious decision to drive over the speed limit we are or should be aware of the consequences of getting caught. Pleading ignorance of the law may get you a warning but most likely you will face a fine. Every property owner is or should be aware of the Restrictive Covenants and Restrictions which are legally tied to each property address. The process to identify violations, notifications, processes and even legal remedies are clearly spelled out for each District. Normally the process starts with a complaint, 2 or 3 notices to property owner and ultimately if not remedied, fines starting at $50.00 plus $25.00 per day (potentially $500.00 per day for repeat offenders) until the violation is resolved. Unpaid fines can be levied against the property in the form of a lien including possibly legal fees or other expenses (depending on the nature of the complaint).

Given the facts and knowing that anyone violating any of the restrictions would be subject to potential fines I cannot understand why you would knowingly proceed. The restrictions and covenants are for everyone's protection. Typically the first thing the violators say when they are caught is why me? My typical response is Why Not?

Barefoot
02-25-2019, 01:11 PM
As I usually try to do, call attention to the fact that there are only "SOME" dog owners letting their dogs pee and poop on others property. The other 90% of us dog owners do the right thing.

When all gets said and done there are very few triple or more dog owners in TV. And as we all know whether a violation or not is all a function of whether anybody turns in a complaint.
Exactly!

Spd57
02-28-2019, 12:57 AM
What would you tell your children to do if that was the rule of Their apartment or college dorm?

PennBF
02-28-2019, 10:27 AM
I had an older brother who once said if "milk was outlawed, I would remove it from my home". The sign of a good community is it's citizen's willing to obey the laws and in this case the Deed restrictions set down by the community. When residents begin to intentionally circumvent the law, where does it stop? It is even worse when it is a "planned violation" rather than by accident. There should be consequences and they should be severe enough to deter the individual(s) from continuing to do the act(s). A last point. The one who relies on "not being reported" thereby making their neighbor a part of the violation since they are reluctant to cause an issue is a bully and disgrace. I like the Villages and the Deed Restrictions were created to keep it "likable". Let's not be a part of tearing it down.:ho:

spring_chicken
02-28-2019, 10:38 AM
Thanks to those of you trying to help me and honestly answer my question. I didn't mean to imply that my dogs are left outside to bark and I do pick up their excrement. Neither of those would be appreciated by any neighbor; that goes without saying. I was asking about the strict number of dogs and if any of you who have lived here longer might know of any infractions and repurcussions; that is all

I have a friend who got a letter after a crabby neighbor turned her in. They cannot come and search your house. She ignored the letter and nothing else was ever said.

Challenger
02-28-2019, 12:18 PM
When one violates a deed restriction, the victims of the act are all others subject to the same body of restrictions. As in so many cases, in our society the violators will nearly always blame those who are the victims and or the whistle blowers. Bizarre!

photo1902
02-28-2019, 12:36 PM
When one violates a deed restriction, the victims of the act are all others subject to the same body of restrictions. As in so many cases, in our society the violators will nearly always blame those who are the victims and or the whistle blowers. Bizarre!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

sallybowron
02-28-2019, 06:55 PM
Dogs are to not be over “x” pounds either. However, there are large and small dog parks... If the dogs are quite and you don’t let them pee or poo in the neighbors yard, you shouldn’t have any problems. I am willing to bet my wife’s SS check there are TV residents that have more than two dogs/pets.

I can guarantee you there are many people with more than two dogs. As one poser said, keeping track of your dog and not letting them poo in another persons yard or space is a must. Actually there are a couple f fields near me way down on Morse that people used to walk dogs, even letting them roam free. This does not seem to cause any problems.:doggie: