Too bad Tiger Woods will be at Augusta to ruin it for all

[billethkid]

the other players:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1263385/Tiger-Woods-returns-golf-Augusta--army-90-bodyguards.html

In another article both Tiger and the Augusta directors have put in place a ruling that ANYBODY who even makes a remark around him at Augusta will be promptly removed from the premises.

Golf's finest event being turned into a 3 ring circus by an irresponsible citizen. I for one will not be watching the media go ga-ga over his and Augusta's selfish circus.
The true golf fans can only hope he does poorly hence the camera will not be just on him.

btk

[zcaveman]

I actually turned off last Sunday's golf tournament because all they did was talk about Tiger and show shots of him like he was playing there.

I can just imagine what the masters is going to be like.

I hope the LPGA is on. They did not mention Tiger once all weekend.

[JUREK]

He should just man up and face the music. I will try and watch anything else on TV unless I hear he is falling apart.

[Army Guy]

I agree, but you know....all the "working girls" in town are sure happy!!!


Army Guy

[zcaveman]

I agree, but you know....all the "working girls" in town are sure happy!!!


Army Guy

True - but they might just end up with a Subway sandwich for their services.

[Chi-Town]

Vijay Singh was playing at the 2003 US Open. He had earlier in the season kind of ripped Annika Sorenstam for playing on the men's tour. When he missed a putt a guy said at Vijay that Anika would have made it. He was escorted off the course. So long to $70.00dollars, but the guy didn't seem to care. I guess the moral of the story is to wait until the 18th before you make a remark.

[Taltarzac]

the other players:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1263385/Tiger-Woods-returns-golf-Augusta--army-90-bodyguards.html

In another article both Tiger and the Augusta directors have put in place a ruling that ANYBODY who even makes a remark around him at Augusta will be promptly removed from the premises.

Golf's finest event being turned into a 3 ring circus by an irresponsible citizen. I for one will not be watching the media go ga-ga over his and Augusta's selfish circus.
The true golf fans can only hope he does poorly hence the camera will not be just on him.

btk

The 82 extra security people are not Wood's private guards but part of the extra security put on by the golf tournament people. That seems like a very poorly written article meant to provoke people.

[Xavier]

A bit judgemental for Christians (or any other religion) I would judge! "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Xavier

[eweissenbach]

I imagine the other multi-millionaires on the tour will find it in their hearts to forgive him, given the huge increase in paydays they have enjoyed as the result of Eldrick's presence on the tour. The Masters has never tolerated any outbursts by the "patrons", and they are certainly not about to start now.

[jblum8156]

I would say the Masters is the very best place for his comeback because security is always so tight and the Augusta people don't tolerate any nonsense.

[billethkid]

He said the game of golf is bigger than ANY ONE person. Unfortunately the media and the rest of the profiteers would have one think other wise.

His presence there will take away from the real meaning of playing in the masters to the rest of the field....and that is a travesty. Now if TIger blows it then it may be to their advantage....we can only hope.

btk

[actor]

in what I think is a very sincere way. Exactly what more do you want him to do? He's been very humble and apologetic at his news conference today. He's certainly, if not the best, one of the two best to play the game, and without him professional golf is rather boring. I for one am glad to see him back, and if you asked the other players, I think most of them are also glad. After all, with Tiger playing, their paydays are potentially a lot bigger.

[bkcunningham1]

The four-times Masters winner wiped sweat and took a drink before speaking at a press conference today. He looked horrible and scared to me. The press, most of whom he called by their first names, offered many more "hard" questions about rehab and the numerous affairs and his adultery than I ever imagined.

He said encouragement from other players and the galleries "blew me away." "People here are really respectful and it blew me away."

He also said to all the players that he was glad that, "after today...players can be left alone...and going forward as well...alot has happened over the past five months."

Said he has "under appreciated the fans" and the kids who look up to him.
"Winning golf tournaments is irrelevant to the damage I did (to wife, family and children)," Woods said.

About the mainstream media's treatment, "the times have changed..." What I've done was wrong."

He briefly brought up use of sleeping aids and pain meds used for injuries and at the time of his Dad's death. I held my breath hoping he wouldn't justify his adultery. I don't think he did. He spoke about use of a dCanadian doctor who he brought in to spin blood and help with a knee injury. Feds may be investigating this. His affairs may just be the first of it for Woods.

On his 45 day stint in rehab, he said he has come out "a much better person for it..." and wouldn't say what the rehab was for, "that's personal." And that he'd continue treatment and getting closer to God through his religion (Buddihsm).

On a question about feeling "entitled" and rationalize what was going on with adultery. "The way I was thinking was not correct. I was rationalizing, in total denial at times...the way I was thinking caused so much harm to people I love."

He missed his son't first birthday because of his decision to go to rehab after the Christmas holidays. "Something I regret and probably will for the rest of my life."

"I've lied and deceived," Woods said.

Why you would leave so many loose ends, a reporter asked. "I acted just terrible and poorly. Made so many bad decision. Hurt so many people close to me. That's enough."

"I even lied to myself...strip all that away...full magnitude of it...it's pretty brutal...I take full responsibility for it. I don't take that lightly," he said.

"...It's not about the championships, it about how you live life."

Regarding his sponsors, Woods said he understood why sponsors dropped him. Going forward, he hopes to prove he's a worthy investment and help their companies grow.

Golf wise, Tiger's expectations, "Nothings changed...try to go out there and win this thing."

"The media is not allowed inside the ropes...alot more at ease than most weeks. This is one week you'd rather have a pairing with me considering the circumstances it would be this week," Tiger said.

Elin is not coming this week.
God bless and good luck Elin and family. B,K.

[ajbrown]

Said he has "under appreciated the fans" and the kids who look up to him.


This is a point I have always made about him and was happy to hear his response. He also touched on working to be a player that controls his outbursts on the course. As a long time golfer myself, good luck with that one ;)

I listened to it while working on my computer. IMO it was very impressive first step. Good for him.

Time will tell, now I hope the Master's can be more about golf....

[schotzyb]

He did seem sincere but it is hard for a Tiger to change it's stripes. I have a feeling the first critical shot he misses the foul language and the throwing clubs will resurface.

[Bonny]

I think alot of us have a skeleton or 2 in our closet.
Yea, he did some bad things, but it's his life & he has bigger people than us that he'll have to answer to. It's not up to me to judge him. He hurt himself & those that are close to him. I'm sure he'll work very hard in getting his life back on track. I'm just anxious to see him playing golf again. In fact, I bet alot of the players want that as well. I would think this will be one of the most watched games in along time !!!

[barb1191]

in what I think is a very sincere way. Exactly what more do you want him to do? He's been very humble and apologetic at his news conference today. He's certainly, if not the best, one of the two best to play the game, and without him professional golf is rather boring. I for one am glad to see him back, and if you asked the other players, I think most of them are also glad. After all, with Tiger playing, their paydays are potentially a lot bigger.

:agree::agree: Very well put, actor. Unfortunately, there will always be "naysayers" who continually thrive on controversy.

[starlight1234]

Why would anyone want to watch the LPGA instead of the best golfer in the world. His comeback at the Masters is exciting and I'll watch every minute of it. If you have a problem with infidelity you should probably boycott the NFL. NHL,NBA. By the way, Not everyone on the LPGA Tour is True Blue! The only thing straight about many of them is their Tee shots.

[cashman]

To suggest otherwise is emotional hypocracy.

The guy is the best golfer in the world.

He asked for forgiveness. Any real Christian will give him another chance.

All of golf wants him back.

Golf gets a little boring sometimes without him.

God bless Tiger, his family and bless also the poor souls who say bad things about him. These poor souls must be perfect. I have never met such a person and have no interest in doing so.

[billethkid]

As for golf being boring without Tiger Woods, there are millions who watch the greats who seem to be able to play at or above Tiger's level to win tournaments.
As Arnie Palmer said....golf is bigger than just one man. I sit with Arnold Palmer.

Some how golf managed quite well before he appeared on the scene, without folks labeling it boring, and it will certainly do well after he fades into the sunset (or whatever).

I hope he has learned something....we'll see....as the saying goes you can rearrange the spots on a leopard and when you get done you still have a leopard. As pointed out above the same no doubt applies to.....tigers.

we'll see.

btk

[GatbTester]

All the hoopla concerning Tiger's return to golf is just that, the media play. No one will convince me that Tiger is larger than Golf and for that reason it is his privilege to return and play with his peers. We as guests, if you will, are also privileged to watch the play of one of the most famous tournaments and root for whomever we wish. But to allow ourselves to sit in judgment of another human being is wrong. Be gentle, forgiving, and remember it is only a game.

[cashman]

As for golf being boring without Tiger Woods, there are millions who watch the greats who seem to be able to play at or above Tiger's level to win tournaments.
As Arnie Palmer said....golf is bigger than just one man. I sit with Arnold Palmer.

Some how golf managed quite well before he appeared on the scene, without folks labeling it boring, and it will certainly do well after he fades into the sunset (or whatever).

I hope he has learned something....we'll see....as the saying goes you can rearrange the spots on a leopard and when you get done you still have a leopard. As pointed out above the same no doubt applies to.....tigers.

we'll see.

btk



Attendance and advertising provides income to the golfers. All of this income has dropped 18% without Tiger. The players, Sponsors and the PGA want him back. Once in awhile another player may reach Tigers quality of golf But that is all.

You are using spots as an analogy to sins. Are you suggesting that none of the other pro golfers or pros in other sports have done what Tiger did.
If so that would be good because if we followed you theory On tiger we would not need any of them to be playing.

[GatorFan]

Personally I could care less about his private life. Have not watched golf on TV since he quit playing but I will watch this weekend because he is back. For the record, everyone who is involed in professional golf including the players and workers will be happy he is back, their paychecks will go up. % of people watching golf will be its highest of all time this weekend. Like it or not, Tiger is the $$$$$ man.

[Xavier]

To suggest otherwise is emotional hypocracy.

The guy is the best golfer in the world.

He asked for forgiveness. Any real Christian will give him another chance.

All of golf wants him back.

Golf gets a little boring sometimes without him.

God bless Tiger, his family and bless also the poor souls who say bad things about him. These poor souls must be perfect. I have never met such a person and have no interest in doing so.

:agree: NEVER, EVER, EVER did I think that I could agree with you on any point. I was wrong. In this post I agree with your every word. :mademyday:

[ijusluvit]

:agree: NEVER, EVER, EVER did I think that I could agree with you on any point. I was wrong. In this post I agree with your every word. :mademyday:

Ditto!

[GMONEY]

All the hoopla concerning Tiger's return to golf is just that, the media play. No one will convince me that Tiger is larger than Golf and for that reason it is his privilege to return and play with his peers. We as guests, if you will, are also privileged to watch the play of one of the most famous tournaments and root for whomever we wish. But to allow ourselves to sit in judgment of another human being is wrong. Be gentle, forgiving, and remember it is only a game.

Great thought!!!! He made a big mistake, how many times must we hear it, I am sure most of it is true, but like movies alot is also dramatized.. The fact is, if the media left it alone, it would make the world alot better, You can only beat up a dead skunk so much.

The Masters is a wonderful event, security has always been tight and they have never allowed alot of BS to go on. It will most likely be the most watched event in golfing's recent history. But the media will make it that way, Not Tiger. I really hope he does really good, woud love to see him win.
He mad the mudhole, he dove in it.. He has admitted to it, dealing with it, and like he said will always be reminded of it and always be dealing with it regaurdless of how much help and forgiveness he gets, due to the media.

It will be nice to see him play along with the others, seems to me from interviews most if not all the players are fine with it and welcome him.

[zcaveman]

Today's paper had an article that sounded that they are not going to let it go and are going to harp on it all week long. Either I am gone or the sound is gone.

[Russ_Boston]

Some how golf managed quite well before he appeared on the scene, without folks labeling it boring, and it will certainly do well after he fades into the sunset (or whatever).

I guess you don't remember the duldrums of the early-mid 90's. Attendance was waning. Sponsorship was drying up. The media was calling for a new 'face' to revive golf.

Then here comes Tiger - In 12 years sponsorship money is up almost 10 fold. Player purses are almost 7 fold. The economy has hurt things but it will come back.

Yeah - THEY (sponsors, players, charities) want him back! At least until the next Tiger comes along.

[Grill Meister]

I disagree...."true golfers" will be watching the Masters...Tiger or no....we love golf and enjoy watching the pros tee it up.

As for those of you who opt not to watch because Tiger is play....I know that the sponsors will have a good cry over your absence.

And...I agree...."let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

[billethkid]

or thought about sins.....NONE what so ever....
My commentary was face value...spots...leopard...rearrange the spots...still a leopard...has all to do with the persona and that ONLY. Very simply stated with no hidden intent....a person/animal is what he/she/it is...

I do not believe in oblique messaging.

btk

[mermaid72]

Let he who is without sin, sink the first putt!

[Xavier]

or thought about sins.....NONE what so ever....
My commentary was face value...spots...leopard...rearrange the spots...still a leopard...has all to do with the persona and that ONLY. Very simply stated with no hidden intent....a person/animal is what he/she/it is...

I do not believe in oblique messaging.

btk

Hmmm, maybe true spots have shown through.

X

[Boomer]

Pardon me, but I just have to interrupt here to say that I really like that picture of the dog in Xavier's avatar. And also, I have to say that the other day I was using the word 'motif' here and was accused of sounding like an English major. But I just have to use that word again to say, "X, that is a really cute dog you have, but I think he needs motif."

And now I must run away lest I be accused of hijacking -- or worse.

Boomer

[Xavier]

Pardon me, but I just have to interrupt here to say that I really like that picture of the dog in Xavier's avatar. And also, I have to say that the other day I was using the word 'motif' here and was accused of sounding like an English major. But I just have to use that word again to say, "X, that is a really cute dog you have, but I think he needs motif."

And now I must run away lest I be accused of hijacking -- or worse.

Boomer

Could it represent an elusive inner beauty (or maybe not)?

X

[Pturner]

Pardon me, but I just have to interrupt here to say that I really like that picture of the dog in Xavier's avatar. And also, I have to say that the other day I was using the word 'motif' here and was accused of sounding like an English major. But I just have to use that word again to say, "X, that is a really cute dog you have, but I think he needs motif."

And now I must run away lest I be accused of hijacking -- or worse.

Boomer

:1rotfl:

[redwitch]

Be still my heart -- I actually LIKE what cashman said. Now, if Tiger could accomplish that, he has worked a miracle. Well said cashie poo!

And Gatb, sure wished we lived in the same neighborhood.