Dogs in Grocery Store

[YouNeverKnow]

Today in the Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Sarasota Plaza there was a man that had two dogs with him. These were clearly not any kind of service dogs as they had no identification and they were poorly behaved. One was in the child seat of the grocery cart and the other was hooked to the bottom bar of the grocery cart with a leash. He was in the check out lane and the dog tied to the cart was extremely hyper and bouncing around back and forth in the lane and tugging at the leash while the man was checking out his groceries.
I've seen dogs in Home Depot in carts and on leashes and other non food stores but they should not be allowed to take them into a grocery store where food is being sold! There are Florida laws restricting the presence of animals in businesses that prepare or sell or serve food and consequences for violating those laws.
People leave your animals at home when you go grocery shopping! :shocked:

[Fredman]

Leave your dogs at home period

[New Englander]

I agree 100%

[karostay]

Leave your dogs at home period


:ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::mademyday::clap2::clap2:: bigbow:

[karostay]

Leave your dogs at home period


:ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::mademyday::clap2::clap2:: bigbow:

Sad to say it will be ignored

[Mleeja]

Does this Wal-Mart not have a “greeter”?

[photo1902]

Does this Wal-Mart not have a “greeter”?

No. It’s the grocery store.

[NotGolfer]

I believe there's a sign on the wall next to the Cart "Garage" that says something about no pets in the store. I've seen dogs in there as well. People know better but push the envelope because they figure management won't say anything.

I'm amazed how people feel the need to take their pets EVERYWHERE they go these days. We've had pets in the past and generally they stayed home. So I'm not a "hater"...just don't care for people who don't use common sense.

[MSchad]

I was in Publix and a man had a dog in the checkout line that was barking up a storm.

[graciegirl]

I believe there's a sign on the wall next to the Cart "Garage" that says something about no pets in the store. I've seen dogs in there as well. People know better but push the envelope because they figure management won't say anything.

I'm amazed how people feel the need to take their pets EVERYWHERE they go these days. We've had pets in the past and generally they stayed home. So I'm not a "hater"...just don't care for people who don't use common sense.

I so agree. And so do most people. People generally use common sense and that is the reason the exceptions raise eyebrows....which is in agreement with Billethekid's philosophy.

[Retiring]

This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

[karostay]

This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

It never will..
Insensitive people will only produce other insensitive people
You see moral decay grow year after year..Just look around the bubble no longer do you see or hear the slogan Florida's Friendliest Home Town Just hang on for the ride hope it last our life time

[gweisheipl]

Wack-A-Doodle-Doo’s!

[anothersteve]

This should be placed in "All About Pets"
You wouldn't stand a chance. 😁.
Steve

[Happinow]

This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

We were at Orlando airport and there were a few dogs around, one in particularly, was on a leash. He was walking behind his owners. He poops on the floor, everyone kept walking. There stood dog poop in the middle of the floor. It was gross. Our entertainment for the next hour was to see how many people walked through it with their luggage. Can you imagine dragging your luggage through it? It’s just disgusting. Somethings gotta stop with the dog thing. It’s outta control.

[Taltarzac725]

Sometimes the threat of a lawsuit is the only way to change people's behavior. This looks like a major lawsuit against that airline and the dog's owner as well as the airline employees involved in the decision-making.



This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

[kaydee]

I think those who violate the “ service dog “ bull ought to hang their head & be ashamed by bringing fluffy in any public business. And you owe every disabled individual who truly has & needs a true service dog an apology. It is an insult to “claim” your little fluffy is a service dog..leave them home...and if you just can’t then you stay home with them.

[Topspinmo]

The ONLY dogs is any store except pet stores should dog for the blind.

[DonH57]

C'mon. Yes it may be embarrassing when you have to send fido in for a case of beer but some time you do what you got to do!

[graciegirl]

C'mon. Yes it may be embarrassing when you have to send fido in for a case of beer but some time you do what you got to do!

Don Don Don.:1rotfl:

[IndianaJones]

Yes, but if my dog doesn't get to pick out his own food, he won't eat it! What's a father to do...

[TheWarriors]

Make it simple, just ban service dogs as well so the problem completely goes away. No dogs anywhere but your own home. What normal thinking person believes it’s ok for their dog to pee or poop on someone else’s property? Think they would be ok with me pizzing on their lanai? Hahahaha

[TheWarriors]

Of course I’m kidding about banning all real service dogs.

[Bay Kid]

No dogs around food would be common sense?

[LuvtheVillages]

It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

[anothersteve]

It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

I was sitting at the bar area of Amerikanos one night and a woman, drunk as a skunk sat next to me with her teacup dog on her lap. The bartender asked her to put her dog on the floor as pets are not allowed near the bar for sanitary reasons. She was asked three times and refused. She was quietly escorted out.
That's how it should be.
Steve

[New Englander]

The ONLY dogs is any store except pet stores should dog for the blind.

:mademyday: :bigbow:

[leftyf]

Any shopping cart that had a dog riding in should be steamed cleaned before putting back into use.

[Nucky]

It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

I don't presently have a dog. I agree in full with the spirit of the common message throughout this thread. It's not good to see dogs in places where common sense would register with most people that the dogs don't belong.

However, unless a person has been Temporarily Deputized by The Sherriff Of Mayberry then Don't act like Barney Fife in a store towards anyone with an "Illegal" animal. Just notify the Store Manager, that's why they are there. I would never directly confront anyone, anymore unless they confronted me. I found out People In Florida Carry Concealed Weapons. Big Weapons Too!

If you did this with me it wouldn't be me who would be stuttering and it wouldn't be my dog either. I choose to not live this way anymore :pray: but I Give Heart Attacks, I Don't Get Them.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

"Comfort animals" are not service dogs. The general rule of thumb is: four on the floor, and kept to a short leash. If they're carried in, rolled in a stroller, not leashed, or on one of those expand-a-leashes, they are not on-duty service animals and not allowed in the store. It's illegal to require someone to produce proof that their animal is a service animal. However it is well within the law to require that their dog be a) leashed, 2) kept on the floor at all times, 3) behaved, and 4) in close physical proximity to the person at the other end of the leash at all times.

Since you don't even have to ask anyone "is that a service dog?" you bypass the potential for discrimination against the disabled when you tell the customer he has to remove his animal from the premises. If the dog is not behaving or disrupting business in any way, if the dog is not walking on his own, and not leashed, then the store manager has the absolute right to kick the dog and its owner out of the store.

[Brawnwy123]

[QUOTE=YouNeverKnow;1622058]Today in the Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Sarasota Plaza there was a man that had two dogs with him. These were clearly not any kind of service dogs as they had no identification and they were poorly behaved. One was in the child seat of the grocery cart and the other was hooked to the bottom bar of the grocery cart with a leash. He was in the check out lane and the dog tied to the cart was extremely hyper and bouncing around back and forth in the lane and tugging at the leash while the man was checking out his groceries.
RESPONSE
We have had and we do like dogs, to a point. What gets us now, the folks who sneak them into motels. We find doggie stuff on the bed, in the hallways, and now in the elevators, gross. On Cruise ships, now, they allow mom to bring her dog on the ship. So now, dog crap in the shower, on the rug, the smell is strong on a ship, if you do not like the dog crap mess, then you can endure your trip with the staff deodorizing,cleaning and basically messing up your trip. On a recent Royal Caribbean cruise, the ladies brought their dogs into the dining room, let them sit on a chair and the wait staff could do nothing about it. So long Royal Dog ships. :bigbow:

[NotGolfer]

I tell this story often. About a year or so ago we were flying for a visit. We were in the airport waiting area (which was crowded) and a woman near me had a cute fluffy dog on her lap. The carrying case was on the floor. I mentioned something about her dog and she said something to the effect that "Fifi, had such a hard time on the plane being in his case so next year I'm going to get one of those harnesses online that says he's a service dog. Poor thing shouldn't have to put up with it!" I so wanted to say something but there was something about her demeanor that told me "just keep your mouth shut"! You could tell that the dog was nervous (probably due to all the people milling around). I don't think we were on the same plane so don't know how things panned out for them.

My question is....when did it become a "thing" to need your pet everywhere you went??

[Number 10 GI]

From what I've read the FDA strictly forbids animals in a grocery store or any establishment that prepares food. With the exception of service animals. Under the Americans With Disabilities Act emotional support animals do not qualify as they aren't trained to perform any service for a person. You don't have to confront the ignorant jerk that brings their dog into the store, just ask for the manager and inform them that you are going to contact the FDA and lodge a complaint. I love animals and have had many pets over the years but they have their place and it isn't anywhere near my food.

[PoolBrews]

Folks are going to hate me, but here I go. Leave your pets at home! People think their pets should go to the square, the restaurant, and now the grocery store. No!!! No one else loves your pets like you do! Leave them home! Nothing more annoying (or disgusting) than seeing someones barking animal in public. It is not a right, and it infringes on other folks rights.

OK, getting off my soapbox... but I'm really sick and tired of this kind of behaviour.

[Fredman]

Maybe i missed it but i have not seen one post from a dog owner justifying taking their dogs out in public. So i have to assume they know it is not the right thing to do. So, why the hell do they do it.

[Daddymac]

Leave your dogs at home period

YEAH~~ WHAT HE SAID
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[aninjamom]

We left a restaurant a couple of nights ago, and here's a little dog sitting in the front of an SUV staring at the restaurant. I do not understand a person that can't leave a dog home, but must take it somewhere and then leave it sitting alone in a vehicle/golf cart in a strange place while they go in and enjoy themselves for an hour or more. Some people claim that the dog is destructive if left at home alone; the answer is a roomy crate where their precious has water/food and familiar surroundings until they get back. If you can survive for over an hour in a restaurant or store without your "therapy dog", then you can survive the drive too. These people don't really care about the animal, it's all about them. Pets are not toys.

[hampton]

I find that some pet owners feel they are entitled to do as they darn well please. Entitled to do what they want regardless of rules they are breaking. Entitled to bring their pet wherever they want. Entitled to have them defecate on other peoples property. Maybe they should start a irresponsible dog owners club. I wonder how many would join.

[JimD215]

I see people driving their golf carts with one dog in the passenger seat and another in their arms. What if you need to get out of the way quickly. One hand on the wheel. Do you drop the dog or save your life?

[anothersteve]

I was at market night at Spanish Springs last night and three times, three different dogs lifted their legs to the trellis posts. Excuse the pun, but this ****es me off!
Steve

[Bay Kid]

I have a concrete dog. I leave him home always. Best dog ever!

[Bogie Shooter]

I have a concrete dog. I leave him home always. Best dog ever!

Do you keep him under the eave?:a040:

[bilcon]

Time to stop the Dog madness. Once again I report the story of the Big Lab taking a dump on the floor just inside the entrance of Bed,Bath and Beyond. Disgusting. A dog on a leash, got off a SW airline flight and proceeded do his business right on the floor at the bottom of the escalator in MCO airport. No, the owner did not pick it up, he ran outside with the dog.

[Fredster]

I was at market night at Spanish Springs last night and three times, three different dogs lifted their legs to the trellis posts. Excuse the pun, but this ****es me off!
Steve

I don’t blame the dogs, I blame their idiot owners!

[anothersteve]

I don’t blame the dogs, I blame their idiot owners!

Oh I agree 100%!
Steve

[BobnBev]

Maybe i missed it but i have not seen one post from a dog owner justifying taking their dogs out in public. So i have to assume they know it is not the right thing to do. So, why the hell do they do it.

Entitlement----that says it all.

[Vladimir]

I was at Mt Dora arts and crafts fair where I saw numerous signs all over the place that Mt Dora township law prohibited any dogs to be at this fair. Well lo and behold there were dozens of people with dogs there irritating the vendors who had fragile items on display. I asked one of the police officers why didnt enforce the law and remove these dog walkers. Their answer was that it was too hard to enforce...if they ask them if its a service animal and they say yes they cant do anything about it. So, many people with dogs take advantage of this loop hole.
And what's with people pushing baby carriages with a dog in it. I was flabbergasted the first time I saw it here in Florida. C'mon man!

[EdFNJ]

About a year ago some woman had a dog sitting next to her in TOOJAYS RESTAURANT when we were having dinner. There were many complaints but the manager just shrugged. From looking at the woman (who was eating alone) it was obviously very sad situation but still ...... really.

Personally, I think 98 out of 100 "service dogs" other then seeing-eye dogs are a fraud. Aside from that, The Villages is one big pedigree parade. VERY FEW "muts".

[NotGolfer]

I personally know folks who have true service dogs and they have them for a purpose. Google it! The dogs go through a vigorous training as do the owners of them. Anyone can ask "what service does your dog do?" If they can't answer, then it's probably bogus. There is a great percentage of folks who get the vests online but those aren't true service animals. Comfort animals don't fall under the same guidelines so people push that "envelope" as well. I've seen a fluffy dog in a cart with a service dog vest on and I would venture to say it was bogus. A certified service dog is well-mannered in public, healing by it's master. It is also trained to go to the bathroom when it's suggested and not when the dog itself "requests" it or just does it as most animals do. My friend is in a wheelchair and has one----they were even in The Daily Sun and she tries to spread awareness. It's a sad thing that adults who should know better think they have the right to do whatever they want regarding their pets!!! You'll hear (read) the comments "my dog LOVES to go to the square or here or there!" Really? Does that animal actually "tell" their person that or does their person try to "human-ize" their pet??

[Two Bills]

I have a cousin who loves to tell people her dog is vegan, just the same as her.
I always take a bag of chopped meat when we visit, and slip it to him when she is not looking.
She can't understand why he is so friendly with me, and not with other people.:icon_wink:

[mtdjed]

Dogs in the Grocery Store

Frozen or Fresh?

Smith dogs from Erie, Pa are great!

[Bay Kid]

Do you keep him under the eave?:a040:

He stays at the garage door. He "LOVES" the view:doggie:

[New Englander]

About a year ago some woman had a dog sitting next to her in TOOJAYS RESTAURANT when we were having dinner. There were many complaints but the manager just shrugged. From looking at the woman (who was eating alone) it was obviously very sad situation but still ...... really.

Personally, I think 98 out of 100 "service dogs" other then seeing-eye dogs are a fraud. Aside from that, The Villages is one big pedigree parade. VERY FEW "muts".

:agree:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I personally know folks who have true service dogs and they have them for a purpose. Google it! The dogs go through a vigorous training as do the owners of them. Anyone can ask "what service does your dog do?" If they can't answer, then it's probably bogus. There is a great percentage of folks who get the vests online but those aren't true service animals. Comfort animals don't fall under the same guidelines so people push that "envelope" as well. I've seen a fluffy dog in a cart with a service dog vest on and I would venture to say it was bogus. A certified service dog is well-mannered in public, healing by it's master. It is also trained to go to the bathroom when it's suggested and not when the dog itself "requests" it or just does it as most animals do. My friend is in a wheelchair and has one----they were even in The Daily Sun and she tries to spread awareness. It's a sad thing that adults who should know better think they have the right to do whatever they want regarding their pets!!! You'll hear (read) the comments "my dog LOVES to go to the square or here or there!" Really? Does that animal actually "tell" their person that or does their person try to "human-ize" their pet??

In Connecticut it is illegal to challenge or question the function of a service animal. You can ask if it is, in fact, a service animal. If they say yes, then the conversation is over. If they say no, then you can ask them to take the animal elsewhere. If you ask "what service does your animal provide" they can sue you for violation of the ADA.

[Joeg180]

Dogs in the Grocery Store

Frozen or Fresh?

Smith dogs from Erie, Pa are great!

Publix, Winn Dixie or Walmart Neighborhood Market?

[New Englander]

I made a quick stop in Lowe's to get one bag of Black Cow for the lawn. I was in and out in 15 minutes. In that that short span I came across three people in the store with dogs. I just don't get it.

[BobnBev]

I have a cousin who loves to tell people her dog is vegan, just the same as her.
I always take a bag of chopped meat when we visit, and slip it to him when she is not looking.
She can't understand why he is so friendly with me, and not with other people.:icon_wink:

My kinda guy...:coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

[BobnBev]

In Connecticut it is illegal to challenge or question the function of a service animal. You can ask if it is, in fact, a service animal. If they say yes, then the conversation is over. If they say no, then you can ask them to take the animal elsewhere. If you ask "what service does your animal provide" they can sue you for violation of the ADA.

WRONG:ohdear:

[Shakerag Diva]

My husband and I were in Cracker Barrel recently. A couple had 2 small dogs under their table and were feeding them. I asked the hostess about the legalityofit and were told there was nothing they could do. The next time I see this in a restaurant, I will call the health department.

[Retiring]

The company I work for uses CROs (complaint resolution officers). These are employees fully trained on the ADA. When I have an issue I call them and they proceed to validate the service animal. They ask for papers. The CRO is also trained on what the papers should look like. Not long ago a woman brings a pitbull on board as a service dog. Flight Attendants notice the dog was a bit hyper, very much unlike a trained service dog. I called the CRO. The papers provided to prove the dogs training were the type you buy on the internet for $10. The CRO took a sharpie and put a big X on all her paperwork and kicked the passenger off the aircraft. When the passenger asked what gave her away, the CRO said for one you need to get your dates right. The papers showed the dogs training was accomplished in 2020 and the dog was born in 1962. The passenger smiled, said sorry, and walked off. Total flight delay 90 mins. The other 200 people were not happy.

[B-flat]

My husband and I were in Cracker Barrel recently. A couple had 2 small dogs under their table and were feeding them. I asked the hostess about the legalityofit and were told there was nothing they could do. The next time I see this in a restaurant, I will call the health department.

I would call them too if I ever encountered that situation. As others have said leave the dogs home!!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

WRONG:ohdear:

Hm - I just checked the CT law and you're half-right. It's not a violation of the ADA to ask someone what service the dog provides the person on the other end of the leash. Rather, the question they are allowed to ask, is what services the dog has been trained to provide (whether it actually provides these services to the person on the other end of the leash or not).

In the state of Connecticut, the person with the dog is NOT required or under any obligation at all, to tell anyone what that dog does for the person. There is also no law regarding untrue claims. So even if I you asked, if I felt like saying "oh he's trained to handle seizures" I can be lying, and there's nothing you can do about it. You aren't allowed to require proof, and I'm not obligated to provide any.

[CFrance]

I made a quick stop in Lowe's to get one bag of Black Cow for the lawn. I was in and out in 15 minutes. In that that short span I came across three people in the store with dogs. I just don't get it.
When our dog was a puppy (10 weeks old) 11 years ago, I used to take him into Home Depot in Key West. It was permitted and also advertised as being allowed. People in there loved him (of course, it IS Key West, a bit more laid-back...). It helped with his socialization and allowed him to be out with me instead of left at home in a crate.

I would never have taken him into a grocery store, but we did take him everywhere he was allowed when he was a young pup, just to get him used to different things.

Not so much anymore since he sleeps all day.

[Brawnwy123]

[QUOTE=YouNeverKnow;1622058]Today in the Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Sarasota Plaza there was a man that had two dogs with him. These were clearly not any kind of service dogs as they had no identification and they were poorly behaved. One was in the child seat of the grocery cart and the other was hooked to the bottom bar of the grocery cart with a leash. He was in the check out lane and the dog tied to the cart was extremely hyper and bouncing around back and forth in the lane and tugging at the leash while the man was checking out his groceries.


Hi this is totally forbidden in many western states. It is so loose here, we quit cruise ships due to dog poop on the bed, on the floor, in the elevator and in the shower. It is also so bad now in some motels,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, crap in the corner, spots of pee etc.
Really loose here in Florida.

:bigbow:

[BobnBev]

[QUOTE=YouNeverKnow;1622058]Today in the Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Sarasota Plaza there was a man that had two dogs with him. These were clearly not any kind of service dogs as they had no identification and they were poorly behaved. One was in the child seat of the grocery cart and the other was hooked to the bottom bar of the grocery cart with a leash. He was in the check out lane and the dog tied to the cart was extremely hyper and bouncing around back and forth in the lane and tugging at the leash while the man was checking out his groceries.


Hi this is totally forbidden in many western states. It is so loose here, we quit cruise ships due to dog poop on the bed, on the floor, in the elevator and in the shower. It is also so bad now in some motels,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, crap in the corner, spots of pee etc.
Really loose here in Florida.

:bigbow:

I hope you said something to him, I sure would have.

[CFrance]

Hi this is totally forbidden in many western states. It is so loose here, we quit cruise ships due to dog poop on the bed, on the floor, in the elevator and in the shower. It is also so bad now in some motels,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, crap in the corner, spots of pee etc.
Really loose here in Florida.

:bigbow:


My goodness, if you found dog poop in all those places on a cruise ship, that tells you how well they clean those ships. I wouldn't want to go on that cruise line for any reason!

[graciegirl]

My goodness, if you found dog poop in all those places on a cruise ship, that tells you how well they clean those ships. I wouldn't want to go on that cruise line for any reason!

I am skeptical CFrance. Some people enlarge things to make their point. I miss seeing Crosby. He and I are getting older.

[ditka41]

Until ALL store managers "grow a set" and discourage the entitled jerks among us, we will just patronize businesses where we have not observed the critters. --Leave your pets at home!

[CFrance]

I am skeptical CFrance. Some people enlarge things to make their point. I miss seeing Crosby. He and I are getting older.
Well frankly, I had my doubts. I was trying to be subtle so I wouldn't get deleted!


Crosby bolted across the street yesterday to see a neighbor (who has treats, of course). Proving he's still faster than I am.:ohdear:

[Fredster]

Just came back from a shopping trip at Walmart on Wedgewood, of course there was an entitled one
pushing her pooch around in a cart in the food aisles!
What is wrong with these people?
I personally like dogs, but this doggy everywhere stuff is getting crazy!

[YouNeverKnow]

I made a quick stop in Lowe's to get one bag of Black Cow for the lawn. I was in and out in 15 minutes. In that that short span I came across three people in the store with dogs. I just don't get it.
I think it’s the owners that crave the attention not so much the dog. They start beaming and gushing about their “baby” when someone pays attention to it. These people take their dogs to the crowded squares, art fairs, stores, and even restaurants in hopes of getting someone to tell them how cute and precious their animal is. Most of us feel the opposite when we see them in these places that they don’t belong!

[Edjkoz]

Bravo! :a040:
This should be done in all businesses and people would finally stop bringing these animals into places they shouldn’t be

[leftyf]

Read Heloise today

[photo1902]

I think it’s the owners that crave the attention not so much the dog. They start beaming and gushing about their “baby” when someone pays attention to it. These people take their dogs to the crowded squares, art fairs, stores, and even restaurants in hopes of getting someone to tell them how cute and precious their animal is. Most of us feel the opposite when we see them in these places that they don’t belong!

You nailed it.

[the square]

The dogs should be stopped at the door. PERIOD

[graciegirl]

The dogs should be stopped at the door. PERIOD

THAT is not nearly as simple as typing it.

This community is strongly pro dog and people vote with their feet.

Plus of course the real reason is that there are no laws to support expelling them.

[Bosoxfan]

We were at Orlando airport and there were a few dogs around, one in particularly, was on a leash. He was walking behind his owners. He poops on the floor, everyone kept walking. There stood dog poop in the middle of the floor. It was gross. Our entertainment for the next hour was to see how many people walked through it with their luggage. Can you imagine dragging your luggage through it? It’s just disgusting. Somethings gotta stop with the dog thing. It’s outta control.

The dog owner was wrong but to find it entertaining to watch people walk through it with their luggage is just as wrong. I understand you might not want to clean the mess but as a decent human being you should've brought it to an airport employee to have it cleaned up.

[Retiring]

Hi this is totally forbidden in many western states. It is so loose here, we quit cruise ships due to dog poop on the bed, on the floor, in the elevator and in the shower. It is also so bad now in some motels,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, crap in the corner, spots of pee etc.
Really loose here in Florida.
:bigbow:


I cruise often. The staterooms have been very clean. One time I did see dog (I assume it was dog) poop in the corridor. I told one of the room attendants, in minutes the poop was picked up and the rug steam cleaned.

This thread can go on and on but the bottom-line is the problem is not the animal. Animals do what animals do. The problem is 100% with the owner and their “tough s..t, I’ll do what I want to do” attitude. It’s more than entitlement, it’s pure arrogance.

[ColdNoMore]

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[RErmer]

"Comfort animals" are not service dogs. The general rule of thumb is: four on the floor, and kept to a short leash. If they're carried in, rolled in a stroller, not leashed, or on one of those expand-a-leashes, they are not on-duty service animals and not allowed in the store. It's illegal to require someone to produce proof that their animal is a service animal. However it is well within the law to require that their dog be a) leashed, 2) kept on the floor at all times, 3) behaved, and 4) in close physical proximity to the person at the other end of the leash at all times.

Since you don't even have to ask anyone "is that a service dog?" you bypass the potential for discrimination against the disabled when you tell the customer he has to remove his animal from the premises. If the dog is not behaving or disrupting business in any way, if the dog is not walking on his own, and not leashed, then the store manager has the absolute right to kick the dog and its owner out of the store.
Great points!

[Stormlover]

Anyone can ask "what service does your dog do?" And anyone can answer, "None of your business." Because it really IS none of your business unless you're the owner or manager of a business that said dog has been brought in to.

In Connecticut it is illegal to challenge or question the function of a service animal. You can ask if it is, in fact, a service animal. If they say yes, then the conversation is over. If they say no, then you can ask them to take the animal elsewhere. If you ask "what service does your animal provide" they can sue you for violation of the ADA. Exactly. And be careful because laws vary by state.

Hm - I just checked the CT law and you're half-right. It's not a violation of the ADA to ask someone what service the dog provides the person on the other end of the leash. Rather, the question they are allowed to ask, is what services the dog has been trained to provide (whether it actually provides these services to the person on the other end of the leash or not).

In the state of Connecticut, the person with the dog is NOT required or under any obligation at all, to tell anyone what that dog does for the person. There is also no law regarding untrue claims. So even if I you asked, if I felt like saying "oh he's trained to handle seizures" I can be lying, and there's nothing you can do about it. You aren't allowed to require proof, and I'm not obligated to provide any.

See above.

[graciegirl]

And anyone can answer, "None of your business." Because it really IS none of your business unless you're the owner or manager of a business that said dog has been brought in to.

Exactly. And be careful because laws vary by state.



See above.

I think that you might have a dog that you take into stores?

Yesterday I was having my hair cut and someone brought in an adorable little dog in a stroller and he/she sat there like a well trained child.
Some do not fully appreciate ADA rules until you travel abroad where there is no handicap access...…...But I think those rules are sometimes being used against everyone by unscrupulous lawyers looking to make big bucks and sometimes harm and ruin good things like our Lifelong Learning College. Anyone who knows me well knows that disabilities are well understood by me. I just hate to see our laws used against common sense and the greater good.

[NotGolfer]

I think that you might have a dog that you take into stores?

Yesterday I was having my hair cut and someone brought in an adorable little dog in a stroller and he/she sat there like a well trained child.
Some do not fully appreciate ADA rules until you travel abroad where there is no handicap access...…...But I think those rules are sometimes being used against everyone by unscrupulous lawyers looking to make big bucks and sometimes harm and ruin good things like our Lifelong Learning College. Anyone who knows me well knows that disabilities are well understood by me. I just hate to see our laws used against common sense and the greater good.

Agreed!!! My bone to pick in this is I know folks who have registered ADA dogs and they don't compare to "comfort" animals or pets. They're highly trained and also are much needed by their humans. People who abuse this should be ashamed of themselves, but that's my opinion. Dogs and pets shouldn't have the same rights.

[justjim]

We left a restaurant a couple of nights ago, and here's a little dog sitting in the front of an SUV staring at the restaurant. I do not understand a person that can't leave a dog home, but must take it somewhere and then leave it sitting alone in a vehicle/golf cart in a strange place while they go in and enjoy themselves for an hour or more. Some people claim that the dog is destructive if left at home alone; the answer is a roomy crate where their precious has water/food and familiar surroundings until they get back. If you can survive for over an hour in a restaurant or store without your "therapy dog", then you can survive the drive too. These people don't really care about the animal, it's all about them. Pets are not toys.

I like your post...:coolsmiley:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I like your post...:coolsmiley:

The only time I can even think there would be an exception is if you're just getting a bite to eat on your way to somewhere else. As in - travelling out of state, moving, etc. But even then, I wouldn't leave the dog in the car for more than a few minutes, with the car running, the a/c on or heat on (as is appropriate) and just to pick up a take-out order.

[kaydee]

Legitimate Service dogs/ guide dogs are welcome whenever & wherever....all others need to stay home & the owners need to stop defying the code of common sense & common courtesy!!

[Fredster]

Legitimate Service dogs/ guide dogs are welcome whenever & wherever....all others need to stay home & the owners need to stop defying the code of common sense & common courtesy!!

:bigbow:

[Stormlover]

I think that you might have a dog that you take into stores? Nope. No pets. No kids.

But I do have an aversion to total strangers walking up to other strangers and grilling them about personal information. It's a little too much 'entitlement' attitude for me. I feel the same way about perfect strangers rubbing their hands over the belly of some pregnant woman they happen to meet on the street or in the stores.

[BobnBev]

Nope. No pets. No kids.

But I do have an aversion to total strangers walking up to other strangers and grilling them about personal information. It's a little too much 'entitlement' attitude for me. I feel the same way about perfect strangers rubbing their hands over the belly of some pregnant woman they happen to meet on the street or in the stores.

Not a whole bunch of them around here.:1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2::clap2::a040::a040:

[Cheydan]

Yes I totally agree! It is never ok to bring your animals into a grocery store.

[leftyf]

Yes I totally agree! It is never ok to bring your animals into a grocery store.

Or Restaurant

[skip0358]

Went out to eat last week. Sitting there and in comes a customer with a DOG in a Baby stroller. Give me a break leave your dog home!
Supermarkets, Restaurants, Department Stores, Squares et. are no place for your fuzzy pets period !

[YouNeverKnow]

Went out to eat last week. Sitting there and in comes a customer with a DOG in a Baby stroller. Give me a break leave your dog home!
Supermarkets, Restaurants, Department Stores, Squares et. are no place for your fuzzy pets period !
Same here! Was at a restaurant in Brownwood and in comes a lady and several of her friends with a fuzzy little “darling” in a baby carriage.
She parked the carriage at the end of her table where the dog was table height. The dog sat in the carriage with his face hanging over the table while they ate and the ladies took turns petting it. This was NOT a service dog people! If it was a “comfort dog” which was very doubtful it should not be allowed in a restaurant slobbering over the table!

[CFrance]

When will this stop!!(snipped)
Hopefully soon, as the mods will decide there was enough grousing on this thread.