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Russ_Boston
04-09-2010, 06:16 PM
You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one:) And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!

graciegirl
04-09-2010, 06:47 PM
You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one:) And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!

Boy Howdy. I am writing this down so I don't forget. Nothing worse than thinking I'd make you grumpy!:024::a20:

Donna2
04-09-2010, 07:16 PM
Sometimes I get bored watching tv so I go OL and read TOTV. I wonder if I will watch tv when I get to TV. Do TV people watch tv alot. Sometimes I see TV on tv. Fox channel has TV on their network.

Just practicing. Bill O'Reilly is not on tv tonite so I got bored. and thought I would see what the TV people are up to.

Donna2
04-09-2010, 07:18 PM
Until we newbies are part of "us" rather than "them".... we'll try to do better.

I can't wait till I is them.

TrudyM
04-09-2010, 07:21 PM
Sometimes I get bored watching tv so I go OL and read TOTV. I wonder if I will watch tv when I get to TV. Do TV people watch tv alot. Sometimes I see TV on tv. Fox channel has TV on their network.

Just practicing. Bill O'Reilly is not on tv tonite so I got bored. and thought I would see what the TV people are up to.

TV is on tv most on the golf channel I think. I always wonder if they were real TV people in those advs. or just actors?

graciegirl
04-09-2010, 07:52 PM
You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one:) And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!

OMIGOSH! It suddenly hit me. Russ, dear Russ, you are one of them aren't you???? ANOTHER DANGED ENGLISH MAJOR!

Thank heavens for my humble cheerleading background. I am not held to such high standards.;)

jaspal
04-09-2010, 08:06 PM
I can't wait till I is them.

Me too-----------I am so excited to join The Villages.......

Russ_Boston
04-09-2010, 08:15 PM
OMIGOSH! It suddenly hit me. Russ, dear Russ, you are one of them aren't you???? ANOTHER DANGED ENGLISH MAJOR!

Thank heavens for my humble cheerleading background. I am not held to such high standards.;)

Closet wannabe English major! A real English major would never use the word wannabe:)

graciegirl
04-09-2010, 08:18 PM
Closet wannabe English major! A real English major would never use the word wannabe:)

Russ, you speak Medicalese and I do too, but am not fluent...

Russ_Boston
04-09-2010, 08:21 PM
Russ, you speak Medicalese and I do too, but am not fluent...


Only in 1 of my jobs. In the other I speak bits and bites.

bluedog103
04-09-2010, 09:17 PM
Sometimes I get bored watching tv so I go OL and read TOTV. I wonder if I will watch tv when I get to TV. Do TV people watch tv alot. Sometimes I see TV on tv. Fox channel has TV on their network.

Just practicing. Bill O'Reilly is not on tv tonite so I got bored. and thought I would see what the TV people are up to.
Can TV people be called The Village People? YMCA!

tony
04-09-2010, 09:37 PM
Acronym alarm!

salpal
04-10-2010, 05:56 AM
OMG, I want 2 B in TV ASAP.
:pepper2:

Golf-Tinker
04-10-2010, 11:14 AM
Russ

Believe you meant "bytes" not bites.

TrudyM
04-10-2010, 11:50 AM
Russ

Believe you meant "bytes" not bites.

Depends on if he is doing his practice nursing in pediatrics. :laugh:

Russ_Boston
04-10-2010, 12:08 PM
Russ

Believe you meant "bytes" not bites.

Yes, but I'm also a good cook! And yes I do pedi sometimes:)

swrinfla
04-10-2010, 01:16 PM
Another one of those threads that illustrates the crazy nature of TOTVers. :smiley:

But, I agree with Russ' first post. Apostrophes are a curse.

Should I use its or it's and when?

I know, but many don't.

SWR
:beer3:

Whalen
04-10-2010, 01:34 PM
Another one of those threads that illustrates the crazy nature of TOTVers. :smiley:

But, I agree with Russ' first post. Apostrophes are a curse.

Should I use its or it's and when?

I know, but many don't.

SWR
:beer3:

I know, I know.:wave::wave:

But who knows when to use their, there, they're and let's not forget
your and you're?

Not an English Major Whalen:icon_wink:

tony
04-10-2010, 02:33 PM
Another one of those threads that illustrates the crazy nature of TOTVers. :smiley:

But, I agree with Russ' first post. Apostrophes are a curse.

Should I use its or it's and when?

I know, but many don't.

SWR
:beer3:

I know, I know.:wave::wave:

But who knows when to use their, there, they're and let's not forget
your and you're?

Not an English Major Whalen:icon_wink:



Boomer is urgently needed here!

Boomer
04-10-2010, 02:57 PM
pssssst....SWR and Whalen,

Ohhhhhh, apostrophe angst......

I wrote this little rhyme many years ago and when I saw what you two said, I thought you might like it and so I dug it out. (I sure hope nobody tells Mr. Tony that I wrote this though.)



Ode to the Apostrophe

I hope that I shall never see,
Another misplaced apostrophe.

Apostrophes ubiquitously pressed,
In front of each and every S.

The apostrophe’s use is specific,
Never intended to be prolific.

The apostrophe is called into action,
To replace missing letters in contractions.

To show possession, except in pronouns,
The apostrophe must stand its ground.

In the plurals of numbers and letters and signs,
The apostrophe will do just fine.

But every S in line of sight,
An apostrophe does not set right.

So give your old English teacher a break,
Do not, in vain, the apostrophe take.

- - - - -- - - - - - - by Boomer (with a little nod to Joyce Kilmer, for the first line, sort of)

collie1228
04-10-2010, 03:41 PM
I promise you I'm a business major, but if I know the difference between a possessive and a contraction, is someone going to accuse me of being an English major?

Boomer
04-10-2010, 04:43 PM
I promise you I'm a business major, but if I know the difference between a possessive and a contraction, is someone going to accuse me of being an English major?

Ohhhhhh, collie,

You might want to be careful; 'tis a slippery, slippery slope around here. You, too, could find yourself accused of being an English major.

- - - - -

Now, in reference to what Whalen said about those words that sound alike, but are not spelled the same way....

Well.......

Once upon a time there were three theirs......

Uh, what I meant was...... Once upon a time there were three theres???????....

Or maybe I should write.....Once upon a time there were three they're's :22yikes:

Oh, nevermind.

Boomer

tony
04-10-2010, 09:08 PM
Is it true what I hear that Boomer will chair the new
Sentence Diagramming Consortium to meet here on the forum?

Pturner
04-10-2010, 09:26 PM
Only in 1 of my jobs. In the other I speak bits and bites.

Russ

Believe you meant "bytes" not bites.

Yes, but I'm also a good cook! And yes I do pedi sometimes:)

Speaking of food and geeks (Geek Food?), I've always viewed the Mac logo as an Apple with a byte taken out. :laugh:

Pturner
04-10-2010, 09:30 PM
I know, I know.:wave::wave:

But who knows when to use their, there, they're and let's not forget
your and you're?

Not an English Major Whalen:icon_wink:

There's no they're their. :throwtomatoes:

Whalen
04-10-2010, 09:36 PM
Is it true what I hear that Boomer will chair the new
Sentence Diagramming Consortium to meet here on the forum?

Oh Tony,

I used to just love to diagram sentences;

Subject / Verb / Object

Then there were the tansitive and intransitive verbs.

O my!

Not an English Major Whalen:icon_wink:

Whalen
04-10-2010, 09:39 PM
I promise you I'm a business major, but if I know the difference between a possessive and a contraction, is someone going to accuse me of being an English major?

Nah, they'll just assume you're over a certain age.

It's been a while since grammar was taught or considered important.

bff, omg, ttyl...:read:

Pturner
04-10-2010, 09:44 PM
Nah, they'll just assume you're over a certain age.

It's been a while since grammar was taught or considered important.

bff, omg, ttyl...:read:

You are so right, Whalen. I think it's sad. Tony's probably gleeful.

No wait... poor Tony. He finally gets to say good riddance to grammar police only to be bombarded with acronyms. roflmao

No wait... Tony's grammar is flawless, 4col. If he's not a closet English major he's a closet wannabe.

p.s. Whalen, loved finally meeting you this week!!

K9-Lovers
04-11-2010, 12:29 AM
pssssst....SWR and Whalen,

Ohhhhhh, apostrophe angst......

I wrote this little rhyme many years ago and when I saw what you two said, I thought you might like it and so I dug it out. (I sure hope nobody tells Mr. Tony that I wrote this though.)



Ode to the Apostrophe

I hope that I shall never see,
Another misplaced apostrophe.

Apostrophes ubiquitously pressed,
In front of each and every S.

The apostrophe�s use is specific,
Never intended to be prolific.

The apostrophe is called into action,
To replace missing letters in contractions.

To show possession, except in pronouns,
The apostrophe must stand its ground.

In the plurals of numbers and letters and signs,
The apostrophe will do just fine.

But every S in line of sight,
An apostrophe does not set right.

So give your old English teacher a break,
Do not, in vain, the apostrophe take.

- - - - -- - - - - - - by Boomer (with a little nod to Joyce Kilmer, for the first line, sort of)


:mademyday: Love it!!

swrinfla
04-11-2010, 03:05 PM
Boomer, you've really hit the nail on the head!

My late wife was an English major, and taught junior high kids for several years. She'd have apoplexy over some of today's grammar, spelling, abbreviations, etc., etc. (And, probably, would object to multiple etc.")

SWR
:beer3:

Pturner
04-11-2010, 09:00 PM
You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one:) And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!

A real estate agent is not necessarily a Realtor. The name Realtor is a registered trademark of the National Association of Realtors and can only be used legally by members of the organization. As a registered trademark it is always capitalized.

No rain, not grumpy, just saying.

graciegirl
04-11-2010, 09:29 PM
A real estate agent is not necessarily a Realtor. The name Realtor is a registered trademark of the National Association of Realtors and can only be used legally by members of the organization. As a registered trademark it is always capitalized.

No rain, not grumpy, just saying.

I didn't know that P.

The Great Fumar
04-11-2010, 09:40 PM
OK YOUSE GUYS , KNOCK IT OFF , SOME OF USENS ARE VERY SIN SET IVE..


fUMAR

graciegirl
04-12-2010, 07:06 AM
I know that I spelled more correctly more often when I was in my prime. I know that I was more careful of my grammar.

I love to read what everyone writes here even if some of us would get points off for perfect inflection and syntax. (Wait, I have to go to dictionary.com to see if those are the right words.) I guess I like the gist of things more than perfectly presented ideas, but I like those too. I like hearing the wisdom and debates that flow back and forth from you, my peers. I like to hear your ideas and views. I like to read it in your way.

And although sometimes I write right...sometimes I write wrong.

Please still like me Russ.

mulligan
04-12-2010, 08:45 AM
Sadly,Gracie, I wish I, too, had been more careful of both my grammers. They are no longer with us.

Donna2
04-12-2010, 09:30 AM
Sadly,Gracie, I wish I, too, had been more careful of both my grammers. They are no longer with us.

I miss my grammer.

TrudyM
04-12-2010, 12:22 PM
I know that I spelled more correctly more often when I was in my prime. I know that I was more careful of my grammar.

I love to read what everyone writes here even if some of us would get points off for perfect inflection and syntax. (Wait, I have to go to dictionary.com to see if those are the right words.) I guess I like the gist of things more than perfectly presented ideas, but I like those too. I like hearing the wisdom and debates that flow back and forth from you, my peers. I like to hear your ideas and views. I like to read it in your way.

And although sometimes I write right...sometimes I write wrong.

Please still like me Russ.

Thanks for reading my posts despite the bad spelling. I would like to thank the person who invented spell check. I have dyslexia and only see the first and last couple of letters of a word so spelling is a real problem. I am sorry that I, sometimes post without spellchecking in word and pasteing it in, resulting in very bad spelling.

What makes me feel stupid is when I try to understand people who use what I call tribal language. Words and phrases that are only used in certain industries or areas. (Hubby uses engineering areospace languange all the time, one of his few flaws.)

Pturner
04-12-2010, 06:02 PM
I know that I spelled more correctly more often when I was in my prime. I know that I was more careful of my grammar.

I love to read what everyone writes here even if some of us would get points off for perfect inflection and syntax. (Wait, I have to go to dictionary.com to see if those are the right words.) I guess I like the gist of things more than perfectly presented ideas, but I like those too. I like hearing the wisdom and debates that flow back and forth from you, my peers. I like to hear your ideas and views. I like to read it in your way.

And although sometimes I write right...sometimes I write wrong.

Please still like me Russ.

Thank you, Gracie. Sometimes I agree with you even more than I agree with me. No wonder you're a sage!

Russ_Boston
04-12-2010, 07:07 PM
I am sorry that I, sometimes post without spellchecking in word and pasteing it in, resulting in very bad spelling.



If you use Firefox version 3+ then the spell check is built right in as you type. Try it.

Russ

Russ_Boston
04-12-2010, 07:08 PM
Please still like me Russ.

I don't think that is in question GG!

Boomer
04-12-2010, 07:29 PM
Where spell check is concerned, you gotta remember -- use it but do not trust it. Mistakes in writing can happen to anybody. And it really is OK. Communication is what it's really about. (I think I just ended that sentence with a preposition. And I don't care.)

Here's a little rhyme that makes the spell check point in a fun way. (And when in the heck did 'fun' become an adjective? It sure wasn't when I was in high school.) Anyway, this little rhyme has been floating around for a while. I did not write it.

Eye halve a spelling chequer,
It came with my pea sea,
It plainly marques for my revue,
Mist steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word,
And wait four it two say,
Weather I am wrong oar write,
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid,
It nose bee fore to long,
And eye can put the error rite,
Its rarely ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it,
I am sure your pleased to no.
Its letter perfect awl the weigh,
My chequer tolled me sew.

------------------

Boomer

P.S. -- I just looked up 'fun' on dictionary.com and saw that it actually had come into usage as an adjective by the time I was in high school. Who knew? Oh well, Mark Twain supposedly said, "If the world is coming to an end, go to Cincinnati. Everything there happens 15 years later." -- or he might have said "20 years" or he might not have really said such a thing, at all. Oh well. I digress.

tony
04-12-2010, 08:21 PM
Spelilng is oevr rtaed. Stduies have fuond that if the frist and last letetrs
are proper, msot poeple can undrestnad setnences jst fnie. Our haeds
intepret the wrods for us.

macro
04-13-2010, 12:18 PM
After reading this whole thread, and replies, it reminds me of some of the late night arguments with 'the voices in my head' (which I usually lose).:loco: I love TOTV! Makes me feel like I'm already in TV. Fortunately, won't have to wait much longer, closing 4/29. Counting down. I think most english majors have suffered cardiac arrests after getting text messages from today's kids anyway. As far as spell checkers go, I think they are pretty useless unless they are checking context too. The backspace key does me more good than a spell-checker. Don't have all that white-out on the screen anymore. All I need now is for my shoulder to co-operate so I can properly swing a club. Hope to see y'all soon.:wave:

ssmith
04-13-2010, 12:56 PM
A word to Gracie...I am so glad to hear that someone else has problems remembering all the correct grammar we were taught. I used to love it so...

To Boomer ...if only you could straighten out lye, lay, lain, laid....

I sometimes help with ESL classes and am ashamed of what I have forgotten.

cashman
04-13-2010, 12:57 PM
Im not going hear nor their.

So they're.

Mintjulep
04-13-2010, 01:00 PM
I agree so much with you Russ, those same words drive me crazy too!!!

But I feel punctuation is just as important.

For instance,,,

Let's eat grandma!

is much improved with a comma

Let's eat, grandma! :1rotfl:

Russ_Boston
04-13-2010, 04:42 PM
I agree so much with you Russ, those same words drive me crazy too!!!

But I feel punctuation is just as important.

For instance,,,

Let's eat grandma!

is much improved with a comma

Let's eat, grandma! :1rotfl:

I'm not touching that one! :)

cappyjon431
04-13-2010, 05:08 PM
You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one:) And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!

Okay, so I am new to these forums and hope to be relocating to TV this summer. My question is why wouldn't you use TV's if it is a possesive? Examples such as TV's great amenities, TV's friendly residents, or TV's English majors scream for an apostrophe.

Just an old English major asking.

swrinfla
04-13-2010, 05:19 PM
A while ago, I was composing an e-mail to a friend of mine who was shortly to be visited by her great-grandchildren.

Here's a question for you:

If I'd written great-grandchildren rather than great grand-children, how am I to be understood?

My mind says that great-grandchilren are the children of your grandchildren, or, equally, the grandchildren of your children.

But, are your great grandchildren equally your grandchildren's children or merely exceptional gradchildren?

I've always been inclined to over use the hyphen!

SWR
:beer3:

Russ_Boston
04-13-2010, 05:20 PM
Okay, so I am new to these forums and hope to be relocating to TV this summer. My question is why wouldn't you use TV's if it is a possesive? Examples such as TV's great amenities, TV's friendly residents, or TV's English majors scream for an apostrophe.

Just an old English major asking.

I guess I'll defer to Boomer on this but my take would be that since The Villages ends in an s then The Villages' pharmacy would be done this way. For short I'd leave the apostrophe off. But that's just me.

bkcunningham1
04-13-2010, 05:21 PM
cappyjon431, as already know, you can add the apostrophe "s" to show possession in English on words that end in an "s." The Villages's for example. It isn't necessary to add the "s". Although you should be consistent. But, if the word ends in a silent "s" like, for instance, Illinois. An apostrophe should always be used to make the noun possessive.

cappyjon431
04-13-2010, 07:03 PM
Russ Boston and bkcunningham1 you are both correct. I guess if we want to use a possesive when writing about TV, it should be TV', even though this looks very awkward. Without it, how do you know it is possesive? If I wanted to write "The Villages' amenities include golf, swimming pools..." I would have to write (using the abbreviated "TV") "TV' amenities include golf, swimming pools,..." It looks strange to me. Perhaps in the future I will just write out "The Villages' when using it in a possesive form.

Pturner
04-13-2010, 07:34 PM
You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one:) And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!

Russ Boston and bkcunningham1 you are both correct. I guess if we want to use a possesive when writing about TV, it should be TV', even though this looks very awkward. Without it, how do you know it is possesive? If I wanted to write "The Villages' amenities include golf, swimming pools..." I would have to write (using the abbreviated "TV") "TV' amenities include golf, swimming pools,..." It looks strange to me. Perhaps in the future I will just write out "The Villages' when using it in a possesive form.

I believe Russ's initial objection was to using "TV's" to abbreviate The Villages. In that case the "apostrophe" is incorrect because The Villages is neither possessive nor a contraction; and the "s" is incorrect because the V abbreviates Villages, which already contains the "s".

If you are abbreviating a possessive form of TV then TV's is correct because, without the "appostrophe s," TV is not possessive.

Russ_Boston
04-13-2010, 08:21 PM
WOW... I'm impressed!!!!!!!!!

This is where I need a head spinning icon!

graciegirl
04-13-2010, 09:48 PM
WOW... I'm impressed!!!!!!!!!

Oh well, they are just showing off. Most of them can't conjugate verbs in Latin.

And....I haven't seen a picture of a single one of those danged English majors with a megaphone or doing the splits.

Whalen
04-13-2010, 10:49 PM
Oh well, they are just showing off. Most of them can't conjugate verbs in Latin.

And....I haven't seen a picture of a single one of those danged English majors with a megaphone or doing the splits.


Singular possessive is 's, plural possessive is s'.

If it were one Village it would be the Village's amenities.
As our hometown is The Villages, plural, it would be The Villages' amenities.

Now Boomer will have to explain what to do with the abbreviation, TV.

Amo, amas, amat.

Veni vidi vici!

:crap2:

graciegirl
04-13-2010, 11:39 PM
Singular possessive is 's, plural possessive is s'.

If it were one Village it would be the Village's amenities.
As our hometown is The Villages, plural, it would be The Villages' amenities.

Now Boomer will have to explain what to do with the abbreviation, TV.

Amo, amas, amat.

Veni vidi vici!

:crap2:


Sigh.

cappyjon431
04-14-2010, 12:51 AM
Oh well, they are just showing off. Most of them can't conjugate verbs in Latin.

And....I haven't seen a picture of a single one of those danged English majors with a megaphone or doing the splits.

Amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatis, amant. I love, you love, he/she/it loves, we love, you (plural) love, they love.

This English major took three years of Latin but looks really bad in a cheerleader skirt and carrying pom-poms.

tony
04-14-2010, 05:38 AM
See the trouble with acronyms?

I think its pom-pons, but who's counting. And, yes, I never ever know whose and who's.

graciegirl
04-14-2010, 05:56 AM
You are right Tony. It is Pom-Pons or maybe pon-pons. But it really doesn't matter to a dumb retired cheerleader. :a040:

I bet Mrs. Tony thought she was marrying Mr. Right, not Mr. Always Right.................................Mr.Tony, Mr. Administrator, Sir.

(Works for Boomer)

tony
04-14-2010, 06:05 AM
Mrs. Tony has explained to me several times that I am certainly not Mr. Always Right. And I always listen carefully to her. I learned that one time when she said "Shut up" and I thought she said "Stand up."

Boomer
04-14-2010, 07:19 AM
I have reason to believe that Mr. Tony, Mr. Admin, Sir is setting yet another trap for me. I cannot understand why he insists that I am an English major. I do not know how he got such an idea.

The trap? -- Well, a few posts back, Mr. Tony, Mr. Admin, Sir used the wrong its/it's. Of course, I know he did that on purpose. Mr. Tony is trying to discombobulate me, to the point where I will not be able to stand it anymore and will point out his error. It's a trap and I know it. He thinks he will get to point at me with one finger, and twirl his mustache with another, and shout, "AHA! English major!" But I am not falling for it.

And besides, there is a lot more to English majors than meets the apostrophe. English majors have the unwelcome yoke of that grammarian stuff thrust upon them. (Around here sometimes, it looks like more of an unwelcome yolk.)

So anyway, now I am going to do something that maybe I should not do. I am going to repeat a story. But I guess if I admit upfront (Or is it up front?) that I know I am repeating the story, it will be OK to repeat the story. I just have to repeat the story because it so clearly illustrates the trials and tribulations of being thought to be an English major. And there might be somebody who does not understand the difficulties English majors must endure sometimes, and the story might help.

So if you have gotten this far, but you have read this little story of mine before, just close your eyes while you read it this time.......


I have written before about a friend of mine who is not only an English major, but an English teacher. (The most besmirched of all the English majors.) Anyway, in our younger days, when she was still single, she would sometimes go with her friends to one of those meet markets -- aka, a bar. (Or is it a. k. a.? Does it need that comma behind it?)

She was a clever English major because she knew exactly what to do when some guy started hitting on her by asking, "Hey, baby, what's your sign?"

If she thought he was cute, she would tell him her sign. (A lot of English majors are Libras I bet.) And she would wait for the next question which was usually, "What do you do?"

And at that point, she would say, "I work for the phone company." (I don't know why she picked the phone company, but she always said that.)

Of course, if she thought he was a jerk or a loser, she would just say, "I am an English teacher." She knew that would guarantee that he would flee or at least move down a couple of barstools.

Later on, with the ones she liked, she could get them so lured in with her way with words that by the time she got around to telling them that she was, indeed, an English teacher, they were so hopelessly smitten that they said they understood and forgave her immediately.

She eventually married a guy who came to fix her furnace. And fix it he did. And they lived happily ever after.

Boomer

graciegirl
04-14-2010, 07:49 AM
"And besides, there is a lot more to English majors than meets the apostrophe. English majors have the unwelcome yoke of that grammarian stuff thrust upon them. (Around here sometimes, it looks like more of an unwelcome yolk.)"

I read with interest your above epistle and noticed this part right away. I need your comment on this information that I got from a very unreliable source."; English majors are oversexed."

Now this may be untrue, but the malicious and very jealous part of me made me type it. I really like you English majors. Pretty much.

This would be a good thread;

THE BEST PICKUP LINE I HAVE EVER HEARD.....about.

Gracie. Born under the Sunoco sign.

cappyjon431
04-14-2010, 08:51 AM
You are right Tony. It is Pom-Pons or maybe pon-pons. But it really doesn't matter to a dumb retired cheerleader. :a040:

I bet Mrs. Tony thought she was marrying Mr. Right, not Mr. Always Right.................................Mr.Tony, Mr. Administrator, Sir.

(Works for Boomer)

It's great that I can learn something new even at my age. I have always said "pom-poms."

I guess I was led astray by popular culture, not being a cheerleader.

Wikipedia notes, "The use of the similar-sounding rendition 'pom-pom' is very common, especially among popular culture, including films, entertainment sources and general laypeople, but most cheerleaders, coaches, cheer equipment suppliers and manufacturers and others involved in the sport will use the term 'pompon'. Often, pompons are referred to simply as 'poms'."

Dictionary.com defines pompom as "A ball of fluffy material, such as feathers or strips of colored paper, that is waved by cheerleaders and sports fans," although it is not the preferred definition.

Boomer
04-14-2010, 09:14 AM
Gracie, Gracie, Gracie,

I think you have mixed up a couple of different rumors. I bet I know where you got that idea about English majors. It was probably from something you heard about -- sort of -- in English class. But I just bet you were not paying attention in class because you were busy flirting with the boy who was sitting next to you. Uh huh.

The rumor you are passing along here was about The Wife of Bath, not about English majors.

Here is probably what you were supposed to hear....

In Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales one of the characters is the Wife of Bath. The Wife of Bath is described as having a space between her two front teeth. An English professor told me those teeth were supposed to mean that the Wife of Bath was oversexed.

Well, you can imagine my surprise because my high school English teacher had told me that those teeth were supposed to mean that the Wife of Bath would travel far.

I do not really know the truth about the Wife of Bath in the Canterbury Tales. I am just passing along the information that I think might have led to your rumoring. I am just trying to clarify what probably happened in your English class, too, when you were not paying attention and thought the teacher was talking about herself.

So Gracie, all I am doing here is speculating on how this rumor got started. I am just passing along some information that I got in English classes past. Information -- just so maybe you can see if that could be where the rumor got started about English majors. I am just passing along information you realize. Now, please do not go out into the world and tell everybody that Boomer is an infomaniac.

Boomer

cappyjon431
04-14-2010, 09:54 AM
Gracie, Gracie, Gracie,

I think you have mixed up a couple of different rumors. I bet I know where you got that idea about English majors. It was probably from something you heard about -- sort of -- in English class. But I just bet you were not paying attention in class because you were busy flirting with the boy who was sitting next to you. Uh huh.

The rumor you are passing along here was about The Wife of Bath, not about English majors.

Here is probably what you were supposed to hear....

In Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales one of the characters is the Wife of Bath. The Wife of Bath is described as having a space between her two front teeth. An English professor told me those teeth were supposed to mean that the Wife of Bath was over-sexed.

Well, you can imagine my surprise because my high school English teacher had told me that those teeth were supposed to mean that the Wife of Bath would travel far.

I do not really know the truth about the Wife of Bath in the Canterbury Tales. I am just passing along the information that I think might have led to your rumoring. I am just trying to clarify what probably happened in your English class, too, when you were not paying attention and thought the teacher was talking about herself.

So Gracie, all I am doing here is speculating on how this rumor got started. I am just passing along some information that I got in English classes past. Information -- just so maybe you can see if that could be where the rumor got started about English majors. I am just passing along information you realize. Now, please do not go out into the world and tell everybody that Boomer is an infomaniac.

Boomer

Boomer, you are certainly correct about the Wife of Bath. Many literary critics write of her sexual nature and many PhD dissertations revolve around Chuacer's reasons for portraying her as such a tart.

That does not mean that English majors are not over-sexed. I have been around English majors and English grad students for a good part of my life and while it is only anecdotal, I would have to agree with the generalization that they are indeed over-sexed.

Boomer
04-14-2010, 10:23 AM
Boomer, you are certainly correct about the Wife of Bath. Many literary critics write of her sexual nature and many PhD dissertations revolve around Chuacer's reasons for portraying her as such a tart.

That does not mean that English majors are not over-sexed. I have been around English majors and English grad students for a good part of my life and while it is only anecdotal, I would have to agree with the generalization that they are indeed over-sexed.

Oh my! Well, there's the stuff of a dissertation. I guess citing the sources could be fraught with some real issues though.

This thread is a classic illustration of where things go when English majors get in the loop. -- not that I am saying that I am one, mind you. But I have certainly noticed that English majors do so love to take a topic all over the place. I think this thread started with some little grammatical thing, and the thread was not started by an English major.

Boomer, face down in the stream of consciousness

cappyjon431
04-14-2010, 10:41 AM
Oh my! Well, there's the stuff of a dissertation. I guess citing the sources could be fraught with some real issues though.

This thread is a classic illustration of where things go when English majors get in the loop. -- not that I am saying that I am one, mind you. But I have certainly noticed that English majors do so love to take a topic all over the place. I think this thread started with some little grammatical thing, and the thread was not started by an English major.

Boomer, face down in the stream of consciousness

I do love how this thread has meandered.

Let us not forget that the Wife of Bath grew angry with her fifth husband because as a clerk, he was more interested in books than sex. Perhaps this refutes the claim that English majors are oversexed?

I guess it's back to TV, TV' and TV's.

Boomer
04-14-2010, 10:59 AM
I do love how this thread has meandered.

Let us not forget that the Wife of Bath grew angry with her fifth husband because as a clerk, he was more interested in books than sex. Perhaps this refutes the claim that English majors are oversexed?

I guess it's back to TV, TV' and TV's.

I vote for taking the easy way out when making it possessive. Just forget about the abbreviation and use The Villages' amenities (or whatever it is that is belonging to TV in a particular sentence.)

And, btw, Mr. Tony, I know you think acronyms should be abolished, and now you are all hung up on pom poms or pon pons so I just want to make sure you know something that will never let you look at pom poms in quite the same way again. Did you know that POM is an acronym? It is a polar operational meteorological satellite. Hah! Double the fun, Mr. Tony.

Boomer

Boomer
04-14-2010, 11:34 AM
I thought it was expensive juice.

Hey re-tire, that, too. -- which reminds me....I really must get up from in front of this computer and go to the grocery store. (That pomegranate stuff can make a good martini I hear.) I think I better get out of here before I get all sidetracked again and start telling the story of what I saw happen when a chocolate martini was involved.....or I could get all into Greek mythology and start telling that story about the pomegranate seeds and the underworld. But I will spare the reader....for now.

Boomer

graciegirl
04-14-2010, 03:37 PM
Gracie, Gracie, Gracie,

I think you have mixed up a couple of different rumors. I bet I know where you got that idea about English majors. It was probably from something you heard about -- sort of -- in English class. But I just bet you were not paying attention in class because you were busy flirting with the boy who was sitting next to you. Uh huh.

The rumor you are passing along here was about The Wife of Bath, not about English majors.

Here is probably what you were supposed to hear....

In Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales one of the characters is the Wife of Bath. The Wife of Bath is described as having a space between her two front teeth. An English professor told me those teeth were supposed to mean that the Wife of Bath was oversexed.

Well, you can imagine my surprise because my high school English teacher had told me that those teeth were supposed to mean that the Wife of Bath would travel far.

I do not really know the truth about the Wife of Bath in the Canterbury Tales. I am just passing along the information that I think might have led to your rumoring. I am just trying to clarify what probably happened in your English class, too, when you were not paying attention and thought the teacher was talking about herself.

So Gracie, all I am doing here is speculating on how this rumor got started. I am just passing along some information that I got in English classes past. Information -- just so maybe you can see if that could be where the rumor got started about English majors. I am just passing along information you realize. Now, please do not go out into the world and tell everybody that Boomer is an infomaniac.

Boomer

NO. I don't think it was the wife of Bath or the wife of Beowolf. ....Or not even that old cuss that said "Gang oot and bar the door." Maybe it was Shakespeare. There is a lot of dirty quotes in there. I know it wasn't Childe Harold.

It is my observation that you are correct and may be............ an infomaniac.

But I still like you Boomer.

Gracie. Who sometimes reads hard backs.

mulligan
04-14-2010, 05:34 PM
you really got some serious mileage out of a three word thread starter!! AMAZING :boom:

Boomer
04-14-2010, 06:44 PM
For some reason I decided to google "Famous English Majors."

Harrison Ford and Paul Newman and Mario Cuomo and Giamatti, the Baseball Commissioner, and Michael Eisner, the Disney CEO, and Don Henley -- just gotta love those "Dirty Laundry" lyrics. -- I should have known he was an English major. And some coaches. (I don't know anything about sports though so I did not recognize their names.) And a whole bunch more. Some might surprise you a lot. Some not.

Here is the link I found....

http://www.cwu.edu/~english/FamousEnglishMajors.html

Boomer

tony
04-14-2010, 08:40 PM
Only an English major would search for others stricken similarly.

And I didn't see you mention Chelsea, who is close to an English major.

Horse shoe throws count things if they are close. And please notice that I said horse shoes, not what your thinking.

Boomer
04-15-2010, 09:41 AM
2 parts tequila, 1 part POM, 1 part sweet+sour mixer and 1 part Contreau (sp?)---- YUM

Hey re-tire,

I just recently heard about a drink called "Tequila Mockingbird." I wonder if that is the recipe. In spite of sounding like an English major, I gotta tellya, I just love the name of that drink.

Boomer the Novel Lover