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[Jdmiata]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Cities where the violent crime rate is soaring in every state in the US

Crime rate: Cities in every state in the US where violence is rising (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/28/crime-rate-cities-every-state-us-where-violence-rising/39117505/)

[Taltarzac725]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Cities where the violent crime rate is soaring in every state in the US

Crime rate: Cities in every state in the US where violence is rising (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/28/crime-rate-cities-every-state-us-where-violence-rising/39117505/)

6 murders in the Villages in 2017? I cannot think of more than 2 murders in the Villages in the last 15 years or so. Probably 20 years actually. Murder of Diana Miller - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Diana_Miller) And the Glenbrook murder-suicide in 2014. Man, woman found dead inside home in The Villages (https://www.clickorlando.com/news/man-woman-found-dead-inside-home-in-the-villages)

There are some rough areas, perhaps, now included in what is called the Villages because of expansion?

[golf2140]

You can inflate the numbers, very easy to do. Bunch of old folks arrested for battery and DUI

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What I think that it's saying is that our violent crime rate was extremely low and now it's only low.

Five years ago we had about 160 violent crimes per 100,000 resident and now we have 234. A difference of 74 violent crimes per 100,000 residents.

In that same time period The Villages has grown by about 30,000 people and has expanded into Wildwood and Fruitland Park.

I have to wonder how many of those crime were in those cities.

In any event, 74 out of 100,000 is not very much.

[graciegirl]

6 murders in the Villages in 2017? I cannot think of more than 2 murders in the Villages in the last 15 years or so. Probably 20 years actually. Murder of Diana Miller - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Diana_Miller) And the Glenbrook murder-suicide in 2014. Man, woman found dead inside home in The Villages (https://www.clickorlando.com/news/man-woman-found-dead-inside-home-in-the-villages)

There are some rough areas, perhaps, now included in what is called the Villages because of expansion?

TAl, your post is absolutely and completely accurate and I get so tired of people who do not know who, what or where The Villages IS, but claim to know a bunch of incorrect bad stuff about us. Makes me want to BITE.

[redwitch]

The other murder was the young man in the bowling alley parking lot. You do have to consider that the article says the metro area, not just TV. Our crime rate is still incredibly low but we’re not crime free.

[Taltarzac725]

The other murder was the young man in the bowling alley parking lot. You do have to consider that the article says the metro area, not just TV. Our crime rate is still incredibly low but we’re not crime free.

A forgot about that. I thought maybe they were bringing in statistics from Wildwood, Fruitland Park, Belleview, Dallas, Coleman, and Bushnell.

[theorem painter]

It seems impossible that these statistics even exist. We are not a "city" and we cover three separate counties. Just like STD statistics, they are reported by county and because we cover three counties, they do not exist. People can make statistics say whatever they want.

[manaboutown]

I reviewed the article, discovering that its statistics are macro, but not micro. I looked at Maryland where the article listed Towson, Baltimore and Columbia as a group. Each of these communities vastly differs from the others. Then, Baltimore City and Baltimore County actually would have very different statistics if looked at individually.

The California listing is also essentially meaningless....

[Rapscallion St Croix]

It seems impossible that these statistics even exist. We are not a "city" and we cover three separate counties. Just like STD statistics, they are reported by county and because we cover three counties, they do not exist. People can make statistics say whatever they want.

Exactly. I just ran a foot race with my very athletic grandson. I finished second and he came in next to last.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Let's not forget that we are also the most dangerous place in America to trick or treat.

Safest & Most Dangerous Metro Areas for Trick or Treating - Security Blog (https://www.yourlocalsecurity.com/blog/2018/10/24/safest-most-dangerous-metro-areas-trick-or-treating/)

[champion6]

<snip> You do have to consider that the article says the metro area, not just TV. <snip>

It seems impossible that these statistics even exist. We are not a "city" and we cover three separate counties. Just like STD statistics, they are reported by county and because we cover three counties, they do not exist. People can make statistics say whatever they want.You guys are right on target. If these stats are to be believed at all, I feel they are for what is known as The Villages Metropolitan Statistical Area. The Villages MSA is what we know as Sumter County. Therefore, the stats would include Wildwood, Sumterville, Bushnell, Webster, etc.

[kansasr]

I do find it interesting that the Daily Sun is quick to point out whenever one of the stats for our MSA are positive, but never when it's negative like this!

[EdFNJ]

6% unemployment? Yea, right. Maybe 98% :D

[pauld315]

I am sure this is talking about The Villages Metropolitan Statistics Area (MSA) which includes most of, if not all of, Sumter County. It doesn't include Lake or Marion County portions of The Villages.

From Wikipedia (note that the community they refer to is The Villages)

"The community is the center of The Villages, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area, which consists of all of Sumter County; Lake County is included in the Orlando–Kissimmee–Sanford, Florida Metropolitan Statistical Area; and Marion County is included in the Ocala, Florida Metropolitan Statistical Area."

[sallybowron]

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Cities where the violent crime rate is soaring in every state in the US

Crime rate: Cities in every state in the US where violence is rising (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/28/crime-rate-cities-every-state-us-where-violence-rising/39117505/)

If this is true, it is scary. If it is, why are we not hearing about it?

[Laker14]

Imagine what the crime rate would be if they counted folks driving unregistered motor vehicles (i.e. "golf carts" that can go faster than 20mph).

[Taltarzac725]

Imagine what the crime rate would be if they counted folks driving unregistered motor vehicles (i.e. "golf carts" that can go faster than 20mph).

Now that is nothing but a scary thought.

[Dutchman]

Had a college professor that said 'give me a subject with 2 sets of numbers and I'll prove or disprove anything about it you want.'

Actually, if you looked at the methodology used you would see that the statistics come from the UniformCrimeReporting files compiled by the FBI, supplied by police departments, in this case Sumter County Sheriff and Wildwood Police departments for the MSA of Sumter County, with that part of The Villages being located in the county designated as the largest population center in the MSA.

Although probably not a perfect reporting system, the UCR is heads above the data collected on crime by the Census Bureau where respondents are selected based on a sampling technique and a respondent may or may not provide complete and accurate data.
DISCLOSURE: I was a Census Bureau supervisor of a group that conducted crime, employment, and economic surveys.

[Taltarzac725]

Had a college professor that said 'give me a subject with 2 sets of numbers and I'll prove or disprove anything about it you want.'

Actually, if you looked at the methodology used you would see that the statistics come from the UniformCrimeReporting files compiled by the FBI, supplied by police departments, in this case Sumter County Sheriff and Wildwood Police departments for the MSA of Sumter County, with that part of The Villages being located in the county designated as the largest population center in the MSA.

Although probably not a perfect reporting system, the UCR is heads above the data collected on crime by the Census Bureau where respondents are selected based on a sampling technique and a respondent may or may not provide complete and accurate data.
DISCLOSURE: I was a Census Bureau supervisor of a group that conducted crime, employment, and economic surveys.

I am having trouble seeing how they got six murders in 2017 for the Villages?

[pauld315]

I am having trouble seeing how they got six murders in 2017 for the Villages?

The Villages MSA which encompasses all of Sumter County

[pauld315]

, in this case Sumter County Sheriff and Wildwood Police departments for the MSA of Sumter County, .

Probably more than that. I would assume Bushnell also has a police department at least

[Taltarzac725]

Probably more than that. I would assume Bushnell also has a police department at least

You would probably need the statistics of murders in 2017 in Sumter County, some of Lake County and some of Marion County to reach six that year. I do not recall any murders in 2017 in the Villages itself.

There was the assault at the bowling alley that must have turned deadly in Lady Lake. Redwitch mentioned it but I am not sure what year that was?

[Dutchman]

Marion County villages are in the Ocala MSA, Lake County villages are in the Orlando/KissimmeeSanford MSA.

The murder category also includes nonnegligent manslaughter cases which are any death caused by injuries received in a fight, argument, quarrel, assault or commission of a crime. Not included in the murder category are
suicides, fetal deaths, traffic fatalities, accidental deaths, assaults to murder and attempts to murder, situations in which a victim dies of a heart attack as the result of a crime, even in instances where an individual is known to have a weak heart, and justifiable homicide.

Perhaps that may resolve the 6.

[Dutchman]

pauld- The Bushnell policing was absorbed by the Sumter Sheriff's Dept in 2012. There are no individual dept statistics available.

[Two Bills]

Wait untill we build past the prison.
The numbers will take off then!:icon_wink:

[Taltarzac725]

Wait untill we build past the prison.
The numbers will take off then!:icon_wink:

A view inside federal lockup - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL (https://www.ocala.com/news/20100121/a-view-inside-federal-lockup)

Actually there do not seem to be a lot of prisoner deaths at Coleman that are other than from natural causes. Those would have gotten some kind of publicity.

[Bay Kid]

The problem is NO FEAR for the criminal.

[John_W]

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[Dutchman]

Let's chalk it up to fake news. As the Sherrif's spokesman confirmed the murder rate was correct so that might seem to indicate that in fact the other numbers are also correct and that they come from the FBI Crime Reporting system via the Sumter County Sheriffs office. As previously stated the 'other' parts of the Villages not in Sumter would have their statistics included within the Ocala MSA for Marion and Orlando MSA for Lake. The 'other news source' used the MSA name rather than the county name in their attempt at journalistic sensationalism.

[coffeebean]

Let's not forget that we are also the most dangerous place in America to trick or treat.

Safest & Most Dangerous Metro Areas for Trick or Treating - Security Blog (https://www.yourlocalsecurity.com/blog/2018/10/24/safest-most-dangerous-metro-areas-trick-or-treating/)

Is there any trick or treating in The Villages? I didn't think there was. Color me confused.