Biased media? You decide

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White NBC Reporter Confronts Black Man at Tea Party Rally: 'Have You Ever Felt Uncomfortable?'

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100416091249.aspx


After More Than A Year, CBS 'Early Show' Does First Full Story on Tea Parties

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100415032015.aspx

Hulse Lets Clinton Smear Tea Party Protests as Lighting Fuse for Next Oklahoma City Bombing

http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/articles/2010/20100416010130.aspx

Media Confusion: Why the Protest? Not High Taxes, but Government Expansion
'Tax Enough Already' movement isn't necessarily upset over increasing taxes, but 'other side of the coin,' as in the growth of government, says CNBC's Rick Santelli.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100415171043.aspx

CBS Gives Tea Partiers Top Billing, But Sees 'Inconsistency' in the FNC-Watching, White Gun Owners

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100415015426.aspx

Times Polls Tea Partiers, Finds Them Educated, But Also Angry and Inconsistent

http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/articles/2010/20100415102449.aspx

Networks Fail to Report on VAT Tax Since Volcker Call for Tax Increases
White House adviser calls 15-25 percent European tax 'not as toxic an idea;' some online news media praise consumption tax as 'efficient,' 'only option.'

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100414145242.aspx

On Hardball: Slamming Republicans as 'Un-American' Is Fine, But Don't Dare Talk About Obama That Way


http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100415054909.aspx

MSNBC Anchor Touts Journalist Who Compared Palin to Larry the Cable Guy: 'It Is a Good Line'

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100416055735.aspx

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The bias is demonstrated as much by what they DO NOT report as well as what they do report.
Remember in one of the Batman movies where Jim Carey played the joker and the little antennae he had on his head and viewers had in their homes? That is what the media wears and has on their sets to get the word(s) of the day from the WH.

We all know even the best groups have their elements and of course the media will seek out the 1% participant and present it as a majority.

If they were doing an article on TV they would/could make it sound like the suburbs of the current crime spree in Chicago.....that is how they focus...they target the world through a straw (think about it!).

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Joan Walsh on Hardball calls Palin un-American and traitorous.

How quickly they forget how they said that protesting was Patriotic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0&feature=player_embedded

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Joan Walsh on Hardball calls Palin un-American and traitorous.

How quickly they forget how they said that protesting was Patriotic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0&feature=player_embedded

Hillary is right....I am a very proud anti-war protester who has been confronted with comments about "Not supporting the troops", "America Love it or Leave It and many single finger salutes. But why are the pictures of Hillary so bad....could the source have found some other nicer pictures. We all have the right to protest. I may not agree with the Tea Party but they have the right to protest.

But have to say....how ironic you reference someone calling Palin UN-American and traitorous. What have you all been saying about Obama? The majority of the Tea Party believes he isn't an American. You constantly call him a socialist. Least we forget the comments made by Rush and Beck.

Its kind of like pot calling the kettle black.....

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Hillary is right....I am a very proud anti-war protester who has been confronted with comments about "Not supporting the troops", "America Love it or Leave It and many single finger salutes. But why are the pictures of Hillary so bad....could the source have found some other nicer pictures. We all have the right to protest. I may not agree with the Tea Party but they have the right to protest.

But have to say....how ironic you reference someone calling Palin UN-American and traitorous. What have you all been saying about Obama? The majority of the Tea Party believes he isn't an American. You constantly call him a socialist. Least we forget the comments made by Rush and Beck.

Its kind of like pot calling the kettle black.....

Is that a racist remark?
The irony is that when Bush was president Clinton and her gang said protesting was patriotic. Those same nitwits are now saying protesting is un-American. Unbelievable- but expected from these known hypocrites.

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The media IS, WAS, WILL BE, and has always been biased to the left. It is the popular front to support. Politics will always be what it is and the supporters of each side will form the battle lines filled with hate, prejudiced thoughts, meaningless statements, marches, etc, etc. The days of treating each other civilly has ended, now we face each other staring into each others muskets. Politics is a dirty business and seldom do the right people end up running for the correct office. We have taken the slam, the opportunity to badger, to stop listening, blindly support candidates that voice the party line and stop believing what they say the day after elected into office. There was a time when the New York Times motto, "only the news that's fit to print," really meant something. Now it is only words backed up by nothing but who pays for the advertising.

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Is that a racist remark?
The irony is that when Bush was president Clinton and her gang said protesting was patriotic. Those same nitwits are now saying protesting is un-American. Unbelievable- but expected from these known hypocrites.

Is that a racist remark? LOL Were you a child at one time?

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Hillary is right....I am a very proud anti-war protester who has been confronted with comments about "Not supporting the troops", "America Love it or Leave It and many single finger salutes. But why are the pictures of Hillary so bad....could the source have found some other nicer pictures. We all have the right to protest. I may not agree with the Tea Party but they have the right to protest.

But have to say....how ironic you reference someone calling Palin UN-American and traitorous. What have you all been saying about Obama? The majority of the Tea Party believes he isn't an American. You constantly call him a socialist. Least we forget the comments made by Rush and Beck.

Its kind of like pot calling the kettle black.....

PLEASE BEFORE YOU POST CHECK YOUR FACTS. Some of your ideas are good but you spoil all of that when you make statements that are wrong and you know they are wrong.

To say "The Majority of theTea Party believes he isn't an American" is a typical hate comment. How can we rely on anything you say in the future.

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PLEASE BEFORE YOU POST CHECK YOUR FACTS. Some of your ideas are good but you spoil all of that when you make statements that are wrong and you know they are wrong.

To say "The Majority of theTea Party believes he isn't an American" is a typical hate comment. How can we rely on anything you say in the future.

Cashman....that quote come from a poll that I saw. I will look for the poll on-line.

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Cashman....that quote come from a poll that I saw. I will look for the poll on-line.

Typical hate comment


The only thing typical is the the left's response to normal protesters.

The world has never seen ordinary American people so disgusted with the direction the left is trying to take us that they would actually leave their house and show their contempt.
The left's only response is to attack the messengers. The left is so contemptible and very irresponsible.

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http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/fox-news-its-very-finest?
LYING MEDIA= Fox entertainment

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http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/fox-news-its-very-finest?
LYING MEDIA= Fox entertainment


First of all, you will not find me defending Fox news...not necessary,,,more folks listen to them than anyone; they sure dont me to defend them.

Nor would I expect you to defend MSNBC. Oh, and by the way, should you want the entire interview that you posted...I mean the transcript rather than an edited video here it is..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590963,00.html

My question for you Wayne, as you seem to be obsessed with Fox is WHY ?


I really dont get it. I have always recognized that Fox had many conservative hosts to counter the MSNBC/CNN liberal bent. I dont think there are many on earth who does not know that and thus watch or listen and know it. I dont get my news from the cable news channels or the networks so I surely dont get as caught up with it as you and the President.

Unless you can deny somehow that MSNBC for example does not cater to the left and if you can please tell us how you could possibly say that...why is all the critique aimed at Fox....why dont we hear except when defending Fox comments on Olberman and Maddow, two of the most liberal and viscious folks on tv today (not a criticism Wayne....they are and that is their call and MSNBCs decision to air them).

It just seems sort of one sided especially as their ratings grow...from the President to you....they all seem to either worry or fret about this network.

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I am interested in the truth not some made up garbage that Fox seems to present. I do think that is the difference. You may not like them but at least Olberman and Maddow try to tell the truth. The clip I presented in my previous post is freaking ridiculous. The guy has the no.1 show on cable TV and sits there and lies to a U.S. senator and the next night laughs about it. Fox is the #1 station,should they not at least try to report the truth. If Obama and the Dems are so bad why do they have to make up stuff? That idiot that reported on ACORN,climategate,atomic treaty symbol,prison for the uninsured wher do the lies stop?

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I am interested in the truth not some made up garbage that Fox seems to present. I do think that is the difference. You may not like them but at least Olberman and Maddow try to tell the truth. The clip I presented in my previous post is freaking ridiculous. The guy has the no.1 show on cable TV and sits there and lies to a U.S. senator and the next night laughs about it. Fox is the #1 station,should they not at least try to report the truth. If Obama and the Dems are so bad why do they have to make up stuff? That idiot that reported on ACORN,climategate,atomic treaty symbol,prison for the uninsured wher do the lies stop?

Sorry Wayne....you have about the most bias attitude that I have ever seen. You believe in Maddow and Olberman and therefore they are telling the truth...fine...you are then beyond any discussion. You are right and the rest of the world is wrong....wow !

As I said not defending Fox.....but asked a question of you and got more of the left wing diatrabe that always comes out flying. If you were at least original !!! But all you spout is the garbage fostered by MOVEON. You dont have anything but their opiinion. You appear to be one of the loyal party hacks that adores and worships at the feet of the Obamas and Pelosi etc.

Good luck Wayne and I mean that. Without an open mind on ANYTHING there is nothing more to say !

While I am FOR SURE and absolute anti Obama.....I can see both sides of any discussion....you are flat out unable !

Ok...to summarize...those fine folks over at MSNBC...Olberman and Maddow..poor folks they are out there telling the truth and have been for years...their personal attacks are just truths. They offer no opinion...just the truth and those dirty rats at Fox...they spend the day lying and decieving. I got it....thanks Wayne

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I didn't answer your question? Here is your question.Why is the critique aimed at Fox.? Please read the first answer in my post. That's my answer to your question or did you somehow miss it.
Your holier than thou attitude is comical.Anything you don't agree with is left wing diatribe.
I.m answering your question about the lies spread by Fox and do you prove me wrong,do you refute my examples? No,you go off on some ridiculous tangent about how you can see both sides and have no bias and I'm this and I'm that and I get my info from a place I've never heard of.
About the only thing you got right was the last paragraph.

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And the highest rated!!!!!:thumbup:

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PLEASE BEFORE YOU POST CHECK YOUR FACTS. Some of your ideas are good but you spoil all of that when you make statements that are wrong and you know they are wrong.

To say "The Majority of the Tea Party believes he isn't an American" is a typical hate comment. How can we rely on anything you say in the future.
I have been searching the Internet however, I cannot find a link to the poll. I usually watch PBS News, ABC News and Rachel Maddow. No Oberman here.

They all were talking about the Tax Day protests which include a breakout of the Tea Party makeup.

I did find references to brithers being included in the Party and I would point to the Representative from Minnesota as a prime example.

So to be fair I will change the statement to: Some members of the Tea Party consider that Obama is NOT a US citizen.

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I have been searching the Internet however, I cannot find a link to the poll. I usually watch PBS News, ABC News and Rachel Maddow. No Oberman here.

They all were talking about the Tax Day protests which include a breakout of the Tea Party makeup.

I did find references to brithers being included in the Party and I would point to the Representative from Minnesota as a prime example.

So to be fair I will change the statement to: Some members of the Tea Party consider that Obama is NOT a US citizen.

And some who are not members of the tea party believe that...so what point are you making ?

It appears that those who lean left watch the left wing shows...guess that should be of no surprise but sure answers why the conversations get muddled up !

I will have to begin to watch Fox to see what is so damn intriguing about that network....to have the President attack you is not only somewhat historical and very un presidential so they must have some important stuff going on over there.

By the way COLOGAL..I am not what you call a birther and from my reading that is such a small number...probably equal to those who believe that Jeb Bush helped rig the election in Florida !

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And the highest rated!!!!!:thumbup:

It doesn't mean that Fox Noise doesn't lie....for example when they reported, for days that Obama attended a Islamic Madrassa

Just in case you don't remember the reports here is a link which includes the clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouKJixL--ms

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

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It doesn't mean that Fox Noise doesn't lie....for example when they reported, for days that Obama attended a Islamic Madrassa

Just in case you don't remember the reports here is a link which includes the clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouKJixL--ms

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

Big deal. We could spend days watching lies from MSNBC, but who would want to? Apparently nobody, as their ratings prove.:22yikes:

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I didn't answer your question? Here is your question.Why is the critique aimed at Fox.? Please read the first answer in my post. That's my answer to your question or did you somehow miss it.
Your holier than thou attitude is comical.Anything you don't agree with is left wing diatribe.
I.m answering your question about the lies spread by Fox and do you prove me wrong,do you refute my examples? No,you go off on some ridiculous tangent about how you can see both sides and have no bias and I'm this and I'm that and I get my info from a place I've never heard of.
About the only thing you got right was the last paragraph.

Holier than thou makes me laugh...I spend most of my time on here apologizing for my dumbness but whatever floats your boat...been called a lot on here just because I totally object to President Obama. That is pretty much the game plan since he even began to run...if you dont support him or his policies, you gotta be a racist, be holier than thou..something..ever notice that Wayne...how the WH attacks the press or anyone who does not bow down ?

However, I have a project for you should you really want the truth...I just did it out of curiousity because I honestly dont watch any of them but google the following :lies maddow, and then lies olberman and then lies fox and find that ALL of them coat the stories to fit their point of view. It is a shame you cant see that....that you are only interested on one point of view but maybe if you do and find that your heroes are just folks spinning to their point of view.

During the campaign there was a long discussion on those folks who make a living as commentators on these networks and the fact that they DO NOT broadcast news...dont even profess to do that. But you can follow them all you want..your right and privilege, but still wondering why you and the President find all this wrong with one network and their viewership goes through the roof.

Now Wayne does it not make you feel good that YOU and you alone moved me to watch Fox...arent you proud...because I am going to check out what is making you so cranky !

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Tea-parties-fight-Obama_s-culture-of-dependence-91080759.html

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What have we concluded. Do you face a fine and possible time in prison or not under the Obama Health In surance plan?

Fox News says you possibly can under this bill. Are they correct?

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cashman, from my own research, Nancy Pelosi had a provision in the original bill that passed that would give jail time. Period. Those are the prior posters previous clips about Fox reporting on Pelosi' jail time in the bill.

There was so much uproar over this, the Senate revised the bill to impose sharper fines. I've tried, note the word tried, to read through the penalty parts of the bill meself. Unless you go back and reference a zillion other Social Security laws, IRS laws and such, I don't know what it says.

Remember Nancy said we had to pass it to find out what was in it? Well it passed and I'm not sure anyone still knows what's in it. I hear the Progressives talking about how disappointed they are it didn't go far enough.

I did find this fair and unedited clip of an ABC reporter talking to Obama about it. It's about half way down the page that pops up. Maybe some of the other experts who reputed the claims can tell us what the bill does say about penaties, or about anything in general. WITH PROOF and links to reliable sources to back up their words:

http://www.healthcarechange.org/obama-refuses-to-rule-out-jail-time-for-people-who-dont-buy-health-insurance/

I also found this. I haven't had time to read through all of it yet. It does look interesting though.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0319/Health-care-reform-bill-101-Who-must-buy-insurance

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Big deal. We could spend days watching lies from MSNBC, but who would want to? Apparently nobody, as their ratings prove.:22yikes:

Ok I get it when you lie its ok......and when did you ever listen to MSNBC.

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Ok I get it when you lie its ok......and when did you ever listen to MSNBC.
I seen their clips. They were disgusting.

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Ok I get it when you lie its ok......and when did you ever listen to MSNBC.

I would be careful, who you call a liar.

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And some who are not members of the tea party believe that...so what point are you making ?

It appears that those who lean left watch the left wing shows...guess that should be of no surprise but sure answers why the conversations get muddled up !

I will have to begin to watch Fox to see what is so damn intriguing about that network....to have the President attack you is not only somewhat historical and very un presidential so they must have some important stuff going on over there.

By the way COLOGAL..I am not what you call a birther and from my reading that is such a small number...probably equal to those who believe that Heb Bush helped rig the election in Florida !


Actually I watch several different news outlets and I read many sites on the INTERNET. I clearly don't rely on just one source.

I wasn't making a point with this post....I had made a statement a few posts back which Cashman called me on. This post was in response to that post.

I think you are wrong about the Birthers...I base that on the number of elected Repubs who skirt the issue, when asked, by saying he should show his birth certificate. They must think the base thinks that way.

And why is it always tit for tat thing? Fox News lied about Obama's school but Donna says thats ok because MSNBC lies. Assuming you have children did you teach them it was ok to lie because other people do? Is is ok to steal because other people do it?

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Actually I watch several different news outlets and I read many sites on the INTERNET. I clearly don't rely on just one source.

I wasn't making a point with this post....I had made a statement a few posts back which Cashman called me on. This post was in response to that post.

I think you are wrong about the Birthers...I base that on the number of elected Repubs who skirt the issue, when asked, by saying he should show his birth certificate. They must think the base thinks that way.

And why is it always tit for tat thing? Fox News lied about Obama's school but Donna says thats ok because MSNBC lies. Assuming you have children did you teach them it was ok to lie because other people do? Is is ok to steal because other people do it?

They say when Bill Clinton said that Oral sex was not real sex, high school student believed him and justified their behavior by quoting Clinton. This is true, it is documented.

When children see this president lie, what kind of example is he setting?

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CBS & The NY Times have done a good job of analyzing members of the Tea Party. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody This article has collected a great deal of data and gives us a better picture of the Tea Party than we have had to date. Some of the findings:
Those who identify with the Tea Party movement make up 20% of the total population.
Tea Party members are better educated than the population as a whole.
Tea Party members earn more than the population as a whole.
30% of Tea Party members believe the 'birther' myth as opposed to 20% of the population as a whole.
Tea Party members have the same age demographics as the population as a whole.

An observation - these conclusions are not the results of a conservatively skewed analysis of the data, but given their sources are much more likely to have a liberal bent.

It's time to realize that comments such as Speaker Nancy Pelosi's on April 15 referring to the Tea Party movement as 'Astroturf', not grass roots show either a remarkable level of self-deception or of knowing and telling a deliberate lie. I believe it to be the former.

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CBS & The NY Times have done a good job of analyzing members of the Tea Party. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody This article has collected a great deal of data and gives us a better picture of the Tea Party than we have had to date. Some of the findings:
Those who identify with the Tea Party movement make up 20% of the total population.
Tea Party members are better educated than the population as a whole.
Tea Party members earn more than the population as a whole.
30% of Tea Party members believe the 'birther' myth as opposed to 20% of the population as a whole.
Tea Party members have the same age demographics as the population as a whole.

An observation - these conclusions are not the results of a conservatively skewed analysis of the data, but given their sources are much more likely to have a liberal bent.

It's time to realize that comments such as Speaker Nancy Pelosi's on April 15 referring to the Tea Party movement as 'Astroturf', not grass roots show either a remarkable level of self-deception or of knowing and telling a deliberate lie. I believe it to be the former.

Of course it is a deliberate lie. It must be very frightening to see ordinary citizens coming together in huge crowds denouncing the whole of Congress and the regime in the white house.

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Donna,
You may be right, but I hope not. If we have reached this point then the USA as we and our parents have known it is history, it is a disaster. Thomas Jefferson, put it best, as usual when he said, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

I am concerned that Congress no longer feels the need to reflect their constituents opposition to Obamacare and instead this, in effect, "Trust me, this will be good for you."

Is there anyone who believes that adding 16,000 agents to the IRS to make certain you have paid for your healthcare insurance makes us less rather than more fearful of our government?

Again, I hope I am wrong, but, unfortunately believe my suspicions are right.

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20 percent of the population as a whole believe Obama isn't a US citizen? Interesting.