Dog Issues

[Lou Card]

I see lots of posts for and against dogs being on private property. An option for extra small dogs might be to add a short 18 inch wire or wroth iron fenced area, enhanced by landscaping in the rear of your home. Just a thought, but check with your neighbors and the Landscape Approval folks first. I hope never to see my neighbor put up an 8 foot wood fence and paint it black, but a very small decorative landscape fence would not bother me at all. What are some other thoughts on this idea? We have purposely purchased our last four homes in subdivisions with strict rules, but since the villages is a Dog Friendly community, should consideration be given to allow small decorative 12 to 18 inch landscape dividers. As we age, both us and the dog become less able to go for a walk.

Lou

[Bogie Shooter]

No fences.

[villages07]

Actually, the covenants do allow for small, short fences in the back that are attached to the house. I have seen several in my travels around the Villages (e.g. Sunset Point Blvd just before you get to Heron and Pelican golf courses on the right hand side). The ones I have seen are no more than 3-4 ft high, white picket, appear to be vinyl. They can't extend beyond the side perimeter of the house and must adjoin the house (i.e. can't be seen from the front). I'm certain you would need to submit your design to the architectural review folks for approval.

So, it can be done.... I don't know all the limitations on size, materials, etc.

[Lou Card]

Actually, the covenants do allow for small, short fences in the back that are attached to the house. I have seen several in my travels around the Villages (e.g. Sunset Point Blvd just before you get to Heron and Pelican golf courses on the right hand side). The ones I have seen are no more than 3-4 ft high, white picket, appear to be vinyl. They can't extend beyond the side perimeter of the house and must adjoin the house (i.e. can't be seen from the front). I'm certain you would need to submit your design to the architectural review folks for approval.

So, it can be done.... I don't know all the limitations on size, materials, etc.


Now that is someone using their head for something other than a hat rack. Thank you for that post Villages07. :MOJE_whot::mademyday:


Bogie Shooter: You are funny but you post like someone that spent so much time in B Block Segregation. :laugh::laugh::laugh::1rotfl: Bless your heart.

Lou

[Lou Card]

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[villages07]

I actually took a picture of the house in Sunset Pointe when a friend was looking at house options and dog concerns.

Here it is...

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=278&pictureid=1965

[Tweety Bird]

I let my dog do his dumping and piddling on MY lawn first, then, I take him for a walk. What he basically does on other people's lawns is sniffing. If by chance he decides to drop yet ANOTHER load, I have my handy dandy pick up bag. :D

[allairenjadea]

Recently we visited some frinds in a community in Lakeland and while there we noticed some small signs with paws on them placed on some of the lawns. The sign read "Please use your own lawn". I wonder how this sign would go over here in TV.

[bluedog103]

Actually, the covenants do allow for small, short fences in the back that are attached to the house. I have seen several in my travels around the Villages (e.g. Sunset Point Blvd just before you get to Heron and Pelican golf courses on the right hand side). The ones I have seen are no more than 3-4 ft high, white picket, appear to be vinyl. They can't extend beyond the side perimeter of the house and must adjoin the house (i.e. can't be seen from the front). I'm certain you would need to submit your design to the architectural review folks for approval.
So, it can be done.... I don't know all the limitations on size, materials, etc.

This is very interesting. It would work perfectly for us. Thanks

[Barefoot]

Actually, the covenants do allow for small, short fences in the back that are attached to the house. I have seen several in my travels around the Villages (e.g. Sunset Point Blvd just before you get to Heron and Pelican golf courses on the right hand side). The ones I have seen are no more than 3-4 ft high, white picket, appear to be vinyl. They can't extend beyond the side perimeter of the house and must adjoin the house (i.e. can't be seen from the front). I'm certain you would need to submit your design to the architectural review folks for approval.

So, it can be done.... I don't know all the limitations on size, materials, etc.

Wowzer! I'm truly amazed. The covenants allow a small fence attached to a house? :a040: I've never heard that before. I'm heading out to a building supply store right now.

I think I hear a lot of people getting out their hammer and nails all over The Villages.

[Bogie Shooter]

Now that is someone using their head for something other than a hat rack. Thank you for that post Villages07. :MOJE_whot::mademyday:


Bogie Shooter: You are funny but you post like someone that spent so much time in B Block Segregation. :laugh::laugh::laugh::1rotfl: Bless your heart.

Lou
Drive 5 miles in any direction from TV and look at the fences....pretty huh?
BTW What is B Block Segregation mean?

[BUC]

Wonderful news, That's what I've made many posts about a small fence I and my dog are happy.

[Rag Bagger]

Don't move here if you think you have to have a fence. There are a few places that have fences but usually they are villas with back yard privacy fences and there aren't many of those. You will have to submit to the review board if you want any changes/additions to your property. That includes walls, fences, landscaping etc. I don't think you will get permission to add a fence or wall. That's just my opinion.

I spent some time in Southern California and everyone had fences. The back yards looked like dog runs some were actually concreted over. No Thanks I will take those open spaces like the free range cattle ranches of Montana.

Another problem with fenced yards for dogs is the owners tend to turn the dogs out all day with little or no supervision. With yapping dogs ugh. I am not saying you would do that but some do. In fact some let them yap in the lanai. My neighbors don't. If they do it wouldn't last long before a call to the authorities.

Anyhow your pet needs the company don't abandon them to a fenced yard. This is not a zoo.

[bluedog103]

In our New York neighborhood fences are allowed. Some folks have them, some don't. All are neat and in good condition. If somebody's fence or house or yard begins to look shabby, a simple conversation is generally all that is needed to get things in order. If the neighbor needs help, they get it. Just being neighborly. Nobody abandons their dogs to the yards, nobody abandons their kids to the yards. No Hatfield/McCoy feuds over fences, no calls to the "authorities". They must be doing something wrong up there. Sure is boring, or is that peaceful?
In TV, rules say in most cases no fences. We abide by those rules as well. I don't think they are necessary but it's not my decision. I knew the rules when I bought here.
In my experience, people are pretty considerate of their neighbors. Rather than paint everyone with the same broad brush, it's better to deal with individuals. There have always been noise rules, litter rules, pet abuse rules, pet abandonment rules. How many rules do adults need? Neighbors can almost always get along. If you get a stinker, deal with the stinker. A simple conversation is generally all that is needed to reach an agreement. The offender usually doesn't even know there is an issue.

[BUC]

Some people are just selfish and don't want any changes in life. I've been posting about tasteful fences for a long time, some people want them some don't some don't care. The only thing that really bothers me about the discussion is when I'm told "Maybe the Village isn't the right place for you" or "Maybe you would be happier living someplace else" but lucky for everyone those type of grumpy people are very few, In three years I will be moving full time to TV with my wonderful wife and our dog, God willing.

[graciegirl]

Some people are just selfish and don't want any changes in life. I've been posting about tasteful fences for a long time, some people want them some don't some don't care. The only thing that really bothers me about the discussion is when I'm told "Maybe the Village isn't the right place for you" or "Maybe you would be happier living someplace else" but lucky for everyone those type of grumpy people are very few, In three years I will be moving full time to TV with my wonderful wife and our dog, God willing.

First of all Buc, I thought you lived here full time. Glad you are going to be here full time soon....well pretty soon.:pepper2:

Second...tasteful is a word that is very hard to define. I must ask again about invisible fences for dogs. Are they somehow harmful? I know they give a shock when the pup goes near the boundary but we have a lot of neighbors in Cincinnati that use them as we have similar restrictions there.

I personally love wrought iron fences but this whole place doesn't quite blend with them, stucco is more modern in feel and the frame homes are more cottagy unless they used old looking white wrought iron. I am seeing more stone walls like the one separating us from Odell. They are pretty. I see they are using them a lot in Pennecamp and Buttonwood in the public areas. They age beautifully and don't need painting. I can see that everyone being allowed to have fences would drastically change the look of things and restrict people cutting through yards to get to the rec centers and pools. They are always doing that in our yard. We don't mind, it makes their walk a lot shorter.

Fences are a big dilemma for a lot of people.

[zcaveman]

I can see that everyone being allowed to have fences would drastically change the look of things and restrict people cutting through yards to get to the rec centers and pools. They are always doing that in our yard. We don't mind, it makes their walk a lot shorter.

Fences are a big dilemma for a lot of people.

I don't think anyone should cut through anyone else's yard to get to any place. When I first moved into Springdale there were only seven houses here and I walked Bart where I wanted. As the houses were built, the walkways to the walking path became fewer. After the last house was put up between me and the walking area I started driving Bart over to the walking area. There is no excuse for people walking through your yard to get to anywhere. It somehow goes with not allowing other people's dogs to use your yard for their potty area.

I was taught to respect other people's property and I think they should do the same thing.

Just my feelings. Feel free to castigate me for expressing myself.

Z

[Bogie Shooter]

Actually, the covenants do allow for small, short fences in the back that are attached to the house. I have seen several in my travels around the Villages (e.g. Sunset Point Blvd just before you get to Heron and Pelican golf courses on the right hand side). The ones I have seen are no more than 3-4 ft high, white picket, appear to be vinyl. They can't extend beyond the side perimeter of the house and must adjoin the house (i.e. can't be seen from the front). I'm certain you would need to submit your design to the architectural review folks for approval.

So, it can be done.... I don't know all the limitations on size, materials, etc.
I posed the question to Deed Compliance reagarding the small, short fences in the back.
Received the following answer. Probably your advice to submit the design to ARC was very good.
"Fences are prohibited according to your Deed Restrictions. What is allowed with Architectural Review approval in the rear is a railing around a paved patio and abutted to the home. On the front entrance, under roof you may also have a railing with approval from ARC. These railings cannot have a gate."

[Halle]

I don't think anyone should cut through anyone else's yard to get to any place. When I first moved into Springdale there were only seven houses here and I walked Bart where I wanted. As the houses were built, the walkways to the walking path became fewer. After the last house was put up between me and the walking area I started driving Bart over to the walking area. There is no excuse for people walking through your yard to get to anywhere. It somehow goes with not allowing other people's dogs to use your yard for their potty area.

I was taught to respect other people's property and I think they should do the same thing.

Just my feelings. Feel free to castigate me for expressing myself.

Z

I'm with you on this one Z, I don't want people using my yard as a shortcut. That has never been acceptable in the many neighborhoods that I have lived and don't think it is being a considerate neighbor.

As for the Invisible Fencing we had it installed at our house in TV and it works great, we and the girls are very happy, they have freedom to play and we have the freedom to let them out without a leash. Of course we never leave them out unattended.

:doggie::doggie:

[Boudicca]

I would like a copy of the photo too, please. We are moving to TV on May 21 and have worried about how to "corral" our little dog. Thanks for your input. Sandra and Mike

[villages07]

shrandell....

You can get a copy of the photo by scrolling down (or up) to the post with the photo and right click your mouse while sitting on top of the photo. The popup menu has a selection "Save picture as..." that will save the photo as a .jpg image file on the directory you select within your computer.

Bogie's confirmation is right on.... for those of you for whom this type of fencing solution might be the answer to your dog challenge when deciding to buy in TV, I suggest you call and speak with the deed compliance people first. These are modest fenced in areas with size and materials limitations. They may not work for everybody.

[Pturner]

These are modest fenced in areas with size and materials limitations. They may not work for everybody.

Might not work for F16. Especially if the neighbors are baking.

[coffeebean]

I don't think anyone should cut through anyone else's yard to get to any place. When I first moved into Springdale there were only seven houses here and I walked Bart where I wanted. As the houses were built, the walkways to the walking path became fewer. After the last house was put up between me and the walking area I started driving Bart over to the walking area. There is no excuse for people walking through your yard to get to anywhere. It somehow goes with not allowing other people's dogs to use your yard for their potty area.

I was taught to respect other people's property and I think they should do the same thing.

Just my feelings. Feel free to castigate me for expressing myself.

Z

I agree with you totally. I would not want anyone "cutting" through my property to go anywhere. I have never lived in a neighborhood when folks (not even kids) walked on my property as a short cut. I adore privacy. Our patio villa is very private at the end of the block with a CYV wall bordering the back and on one side.

[Barefoot]

I posed the question to Deed Compliance reagarding the small, short fences in the back.
Received the following answer. Probably your advice to submit the design to ARC was very good.
"Fences are prohibited according to your Deed Restrictions. What is allowed with Architectural Review approval in the rear is a railing around a paved patio and abutted to the home. On the front entrance, under roof you may also have a railing with approval from ARC. These railings cannot have a gate."

Good clarification Bogie. Small fenced areas abutting a house aren't really suitable for dogs if the fence has to be around a paved patio.