Today's paper weather emphasis...another sign of media theatrics/emphasis?

[billethkid]

The front page news this morning was all about the "bomb" storms.
Before the advent of 24/7 news this was nothing more than a winter storm back in Erie, PA.

Now it has all the pin point focus or a wind blown spot or a dune forming or somebody walking against the wind driven snow.

I do believe the weather is a simple example of all the rest of the news and how reported.

In my humble opinion.

[graciegirl]

The front page news this morning was all about the "bomb" storms.
Before the advent of 24/7 news this was nothing more than a winter storm back in Erie, PA.

Now it has all the pin point focus or a wind blown spot or a dune forming or somebody walking against the wind driven snow.

I do believe the weather is a simple example of all the rest of the news and how reported.

In my humble opinion.


I understand your skepticism but it does appear to be a winter storm coupled with level one tornadoes and it is widespread in the upper middle west and across the map. I don't like their use of the word "bomb" and I think it was first used last year. Early spring is the time for the most tornados in the very place they are happening, but it usually follows a very warm day.

[Bucco]

The front page news this morning was all about the "bomb" storms.
Before the advent of 24/7 news this was nothing more than a winter storm back in Erie, PA.

Now it has all the pin point focus or a wind blown spot or a dune forming or somebody walking against the wind driven snow.

I do believe the weather is a simple example of all the rest of the news and how reported.

In my humble opinion.

"Back in Erie", did the weather folks have all the tools they have today ?

"Back in Erie", did the weather folks have their own channel and educated meteorologist's available ?

Are we now calling the weather report "fake news" ?

[JoMar]

"Back in Erie" did you ever see a storm pick up an 18 wheeler and turn it upside down while several feet of the ground?

[Bucco]

"Back in Erie" did you ever see a storm pick up an 18 wheeler and turn it upside down while several feet of the ground?

Didn't get that channel that may have reported something like that from anywhere....facts is, weather was all local unless killing folks like an intense hurricane.

We are moving forward......cable TV has lots of ears and eyes, and time to fill and that includes the weather guys.

Actually, they are very educational and sure have learned lot I did not know from watching.

No ipads for weather, "back in Erie", and Erie, a great city by the way, didn't know the weather in St Mary's (adjoining city)

[graciegirl]

"Back in Erie" did you ever see a storm pick up an 18 wheeler and turn it upside down while several feet of the ground?

That was something to see JoMar.

Here it is;

Semi truck blown over by 'bomb cyclone' winds (Video) Any Articles News - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uznAPOD80X4)

[biker1]

The term "bomb" has been around for at least 30 years, that I can remember, perhaps longer. While not particularly "scientific" sounding, it does have a pressure fall rate associated with it. I can't remember the exact value, something like 24 millibars in 24 hours, weighted by the sine of the latitude, or something like that. It is essentially a hole in the atmosphere and does occur fairly often. There is certainly more attention (i.e. advertising dollars) associated with weather events today that were just as common in the past. It is what it is.

I understand your skepticism but it does appear to be a winter storm coupled with level one tornadoes and it is widespread in the upper middle west and across the map. I don't like their use of the word "bomb" and I think it was first used last year. Early spring is the time for the most tornados in the very place they are happening, but it usually follows a very warm day.

[graciegirl]

The term "bomb" has been around for at least 30 years, that I can remember, perhaps longer. While not particularly "scientific" sounding, it does have a pressure fall rate associated with it. I can't remember the exact value, something like 24 millibars in 24 hours, weighted by the sine of the latitude, or something like that. It is essentially a hole in the atmosphere and does occur fairly often. There is certainly more attention (i.e. advertising dollars) associated with weather events today that were just as common in the past. It is what it is.

You are right Biker.

I just never heard it before last year. But a huge drop in pressure triggers it.

I remember when you weren't so quick to correct me.

[biker1]

I know I am right - a 40 year career. Just setting the record straight, sorry if it ruffled your feathers. Certain flow patterns result in very large pressure falls - it actually happens fairly often over water. Don't get all wrapped up with the terminology. It is nature's way of moving cold air south and warm air north.

I understand your skepticism but it does appear to be a winter storm coupled with level one tornadoes and it is widespread in the upper middle west and across the map. I don't like their use of the word "bomb" and I think it was first used last year. Early spring is the time for the most tornados in the very place they are happening, but it usually follows a very warm day.

You are right Biker.

I just never heard it before last year. But a huge drop in pressure triggers it.

I remember when you weren't so quick to correct me.

[seoulbrooks]

All fake news. Just have to try to weed it out as best we can. Comes at us from all directions.....

[biker1]

Fake news? Nope. Somewhat sensationalized (exploited) for advertising purposes? Probably. As weather events go, it was an impressive case. People were impacted, big time. I don't know if anyone died but I wouldn't be surprised. People dying is hardly fake news.

All fake news. Just have to try to weed it out as best we can. Comes at us from all directions.....

[JimJohnson]

I know I am right - a 40 year career. Just setting the record straight, sorry if it ruffled your feathers. Certain flow patterns result in very large pressure falls - it actually happens fairly often over water. Don't get all wrapped up with the terminology. It is nature's way of moving cold air south and warm air north.

Correct and this type activity by news outlets is fair but not unheard of.

[graciegirl]

Silly me. I really thought this thread was about the weather and how frequently weather conditions are "hyped" and storms just pass us by.

But I have reread this thread three times and I read and feel antagonism that is not warranted.

And do not understand most of the posts to be frank.

There are "bomb cyclones" happening across the U.S. which means tornadoes produced by a huge change in air pressure over a very short time. The winds produced are strong enough to tear off roofs and topple 18 wheelers.

You can call it Ray or you can call it Fay.

OR you can read much more into it.

[Bucco]

Silly me. I really thought this thread was about the weather and how frequently weather conditions are "hyped" and storms just pass us by.

But I have reread this thread three times and I read and feel antagonism that is not warranted.

And do not understand most of the posts to be frank.

There are "bomb cyclones" happening across the U.S. which means tornadoes produced by a huge change in air pressure over a very short time. The winds produced are strong enough to tear off roofs and topple 18 wheelers.

You can call it Ray or you can call it Fay.

OR you can read much more into it.if I misread..sorry, but....

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I do believe the weather is a simple example of all the rest of the news and how reported.

TITLE OF THREAD....ENDING..

"Another sign of media theatrics/emphasis"

So if I misread the intent, this is why. Of course I am stupid and non sophisticated and took the words literally.

I do not believe it is any sign of anything, and I also responded to his memories, when the information and means did not exist.

His summary is what I find a bit offensive. He actually was quite dismissive of the term "bomb" and I saw no mention of The Villages storms or them passing us by. That would actually be a discussion of weather

[biker1]

This is wrong. While some deep low pressure centers do spawn tornadoes, it is not the norm and it would be incorrect to assume that tornadoes are typical. Regardless, the post is pretty much pointless. If someone wants to start a post about weather, please do so. I will be happy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Silly me. I really thought this thread was about the weather and how frequently weather conditions are "hyped" and storms just pass us by.

But I have reread this thread three times and I read and feel antagonism that is not warranted.

And do not understand most of the posts to be frank.

There are "bomb cyclones" happening across the U.S. which means tornadoes produced by a huge change in air pressure over a very short time. The winds produced are strong enough to tear off roofs and topple 18 wheelers.

You can call it Ray or you can call it Fay.

OR you can read much more into it.

[billethkid]

:popcorn:

:duck:

:shocked:

[Nucky]

:popcorn:

:duck:

:shocked:

Are you waiting for a Bombshell report on the Bombed out weather report?

Bomb, Bomb, BombShell! Enough already.

I'm not sure of the guy's name on Wesh 2 News but before Irma, this guy had us more upset by his reporting theatrics than the actual storm did. We were very new and between him acting up and the Weather Radio, we were going nuts. I put my faith in Tuccillo on TOTV because it was all facts and no add on info to upset us.

We have come to really like the guy Tony Mainolfi but will never forget his BombShell reporting. We just were not accustomed to his style.

Billy, I like your post and understand what you were saying, no problem you are correct. A big show for NOTHING.

[graciegirl]

I know I am right - a 40 year career. Just setting the record straight, sorry if it ruffled your feathers. Certain flow patterns result in very large pressure falls - it actually happens fairly often over water. Don't get all wrapped up with the terminology. It is nature's way of moving cold air south and warm air north.

I had no idea you were a meteorologist. I had not heard the term "bomb cyclone" until recently.

This explains why...….

This Is The Man To Blame For The Term 'Bomb Cyclone' | HuffPost (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bomb-cyclone-definition_us_5a4d5beae4b06d1621bcfd56)

[ColdNoMore]

Advances in predicting weather events has increased in accuracy tremendously... in the last 20 years or so.


Anything used to make people take dangerous weather more seriously, or to make them stay at home during the peak...is fine in my book.

[Topspinmo]

Fake news? Nope. Somewhat sensationalized (exploited) for advertising purposes? Probably. As weather events go, it was an impressive case. People were impacted, big time. I don't know if anyone died but I wouldn't be surprised. People dying is hardly fake news.

Not sensationalized if you live along the Midwest waterways. IMO the flood in Midwest will probably go down as the worst since record keeping.

[ColdNoMore]

Advances in predicting weather events has increased in accuracy tremendously... in the last 20 years or so.

Anything used to make people take dangerous weather more seriously, or to make them stay at home during the peak...is fine in my book.

So, who still thinks this 'bomb cyclone' weather event, that triggered so much devastation (and which has just begun, as more spring melting takes place)...was "over-hyped?" :oops:


Bomb Cyclone (poke here) (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/17/midwest-flooding-bomb-cyclone-thousands-evacuate/3194936002/)

The "bomb cyclone" storm that bloated rivers as it roared through much of the Midwest last week combined with spring snowmelt Sunday to drive some Midwest rivers to record levels and forced people in hundreds of homes to evacuate.


While there may be a few Floridians raising their hands right now, I don't think you'll find too many of even those still saying it...once the full ramifications to farmers and "our country's breadbasket" are calculated. :(

[CFrance]

We can't relate the weather that is happening right now to what was going on when we were kids. Walking to school in February with the snot freezing the insides of your nose together was one thing. This is different. People are losing power for weeks. Storms are stronger. More people are dying. This isn't your grandmother's weather.

[ColdNoMore]

We can't relate the weather that is happening right now to what was going on when we were kids. Walking to school in February with the snot freezing the insides of your nose together was one thing. This is different. People are losing power for weeks. Storms are stronger. More people are dying. This isn't your grandmother's weather.

Yep. :thumbup:

With so many historical records being broken, or equaled, in so many places in recent years...this IS the 'new normal.' :ohdear:

Even though, my record of walking to school 50 miles every day, one-way, up-the-mountain in both directions...will probably never be broken. :D

[CFrance]

Yep. :thumbup:

With so many historical records being broken, or equaled, in so many places in recent years...this IS the 'new normal.' :ohdear:

Even though, my record of walking to school 50 miles every day, one-way, up-the-mountain in both directions...will probably never be broken. :D
Did you forget you did that barefoot?:clap2:

[ColdNoMore]

Did you forget you did that barefoot?:clap2:

I just thought it went, along with having only a t-shirt at -30 and 40mph winds...without saying. :D