View Full Version : Future TV Expansion is Massive
champion6
03-30-2019, 02:21 PM
The attached was in the March 29 Daily Sun.
The size of "Future Development" south of CR470 is massive - larger than the area that is currently being developed, known as Southern Oaks.
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kansasr
03-30-2019, 02:29 PM
Between the announced Southern Oaks and Leesburg expansion and the potential for 36,000 new residents in this area, this will push the population of The Villages over 250,000 residents....I'm not sure our District Government is capable of managing a community of this size and magnitude. They already seem to be buckling under the strain of what we have.
vintageogauge
03-30-2019, 02:44 PM
I think I'll start the bashing. Who would want to live South of 470, nothing down there but dirt and vermin, there's no shopping, the Coleman prison is right on top of them, it's going to ruin the serenity of Fenney, they are only going to put in 12 championship courses for 36,000 people, it's too far from Paddock Square, where are the medical facilities way down there, who want's to be that close to Bushnell, I don't like family pools, people our age don't need climbing walls and zip lines, there is no golf cart access to the Webster Flea, where do you get an oil change, there's no Costco down there, and most of all it's so far from Lake Sumter and an overnighter to Spanish Springs. I most likely won't be around when they start down there but this is pretty much what will be stated here on The Talk.
coach
03-30-2019, 02:50 PM
Between the announced Southern Oaks and Leesburg expansion and the potential for 36,000 new residents in this area, this will push the population of The Villages over 250,000 residents....I'm not sure our District Government is capable of managing a community of this size and magnitude. They already seem to be buckling under the strain of what we have.
Please give me an example of our district government “buckling under the strain”
Thanks
birdawg
03-30-2019, 03:05 PM
What ever they do will work. Have you ever seen a place this beautiful for middle class America.
petsetc
03-30-2019, 03:05 PM
I offer three comments;
1. If it is develop-able, someone IS going to build there. Better a known entity with a track record, then an unknown.
2. If you have concern about our governing structure, then become pro-active by going to the meetings, learning what the options might be and how, and perhaps becoming an elected representative of you district.
3. The continued growth of the Villages is(seems) inevitable, so buckle up and accept it, participate in directing it's future, or look at your alternatives elsewhere while you are able to enjoy your decision.
Finally, for me, I accept the continued growth, I don't have the interest or energy to become a crusader, I don't see anywhere else I want to live at this point. So......I'm happy to be here.
ColdNoMore
03-30-2019, 03:12 PM
'Da Family' has more and more mouths to feed...so it just makes sense.
alwann
03-30-2019, 03:25 PM
I'm not sure the developer pays a lot of attention to public opinion or advice but maybe this new area can be separate, discrete and distinctive. Why would it have to be an extension of TV or an age qualified community at all? It'll be so far down the road that people who work in Orlando could commute. The developer makes money regardless.
Polar Bear
03-30-2019, 03:52 PM
Please give me an example of our district government “buckling under the strain”...
Heheh. Beat me to the punch. :)
Bogie Shooter
03-30-2019, 03:56 PM
I think I'll start the bashing. Who wold want to live South of 470, nothing down there but dirt and vermin, there's no shopping, the Coleman prison is right on top of them, it's going to ruin the serenity of Fenney, they are only going to put in 12 championship courses for 36,000 people, it's too far from Paddock Square, where are the medical facilities way down there, who want's to be that close to Bushnell, I don't like family pools, people our age don't need climbing walls and zip lines, there is no golf cart access to the Webster Flea, where do you get an oil change, there's no Costco down there, and most of all it's so far from Lake Sumter and an overnighter to Spanish Springs. I most likely won't be around when they start down there but this is pretty much what will be stated here on The Talk.
:coolsmiley::1rotfl:
Revenge is soooooo sweet!
Topspinmo
03-30-2019, 05:25 PM
Please give me an example of our district government “buckling under the strain”
Thanks
Districts 2, 3,4, 5 through 10. To start.
Topspinmo
03-30-2019, 05:26 PM
What ever they do will work. Have you ever seen a place this beautiful for middle class America.
Some where over the rainbow
Topspinmo
03-30-2019, 05:30 PM
I'm not sure the developer pays a lot of attention to public opinion or advice but maybe this new area can be separate, discrete and distinctive. Why would it have to be an extension of TV or an age qualified community at all? It'll be so far down the road that people who work in Orlando could commute. The developer makes money regardless.
Yes, with the apartments and amenities for all who needs age restrictions, (sales restrictions.)
Nucky
03-30-2019, 06:18 PM
Stop Crying! It will be mostly Beautiful. NOTHING is perfect!
vintageogauge
03-30-2019, 06:56 PM
Yes, with the apartments and amenities for all who needs age restrictions, (sales restrictions.)
If you expect to get service in a restaurant or store you need local employees and employees need a place to live.
JSR22
03-30-2019, 07:08 PM
If you expect to get service in a restaurant or store you need local employees and employees need a place to live.
100% correct!
thelegges
03-30-2019, 07:11 PM
I think I'll start the bashing. Who would want to live South of 470, nothing down there but dirt and vermin, there's no shopping, the Coleman prison is right on top of them, it's going to ruin the serenity of Fenney, they are only going to put in 12 championship courses for 36,000 people, it's too far from Paddock Square, where are the medical facilities way down there, who want's to be that close to Bushnell, I don't like family pools, people our age don't need climbing walls and zip lines, there is no golf cart access to the Webster Flea, where do you get an oil change, there's no Costco down there, and most of all it's so far from Lake Sumter and an overnighter to Spanish Springs. I most likely won't be around when they start down there but this is pretty much what will be stated here on The Talk.
Such a great sense of humor.
njbchbum
03-30-2019, 11:22 PM
Another reason for us to appreciate having our home on the historic side!
JimJohnson
03-31-2019, 01:17 AM
Keep growing and get a multi purpose path connected to Disney. Then I will sell my electric cart and buy a gas model. We came here as Lake Sumter was getting a good start. If that would have been the end of development, we would be very disappointed. I grew up in a small town where everyone knew everyone else and it had some good points for children, but like most small communities, we had our home town drunk and worse, our small town gossip. As we grow, the drunks blend in and the worst Gossips loose their power. Embrace our size and appreciate the fact that you can always find YOUR special club, group, friends and entertainment. The villages is wonderful and gets better with every new neighborhood.
villagerjack
03-31-2019, 02:03 AM
Districts 2, 3,4, 5 through 10. To start.
They probably should have stopped building after they built your house?
villagerjack
03-31-2019, 02:06 AM
I liked it better when we were the 13 original colonies bu no we just had to grow until we were 50 states. Now look at us.
karostay
03-31-2019, 07:07 AM
Think it's time to get while the getin's good
Taltarzac725
03-31-2019, 09:03 AM
I offer three comments;
1. If it is develop-able, someone IS going to build there. Better a known entity with a track record, then an unknown.
2. If you have concern about our governing structure, then become pro-active by going to the meetings, learning what the options might be and how, and perhaps becoming an elected representative of you district.
3. The continued growth of the Villages is(seems) inevitable, so buckle up and accept it, participate in directing it's future, or look at your alternatives elsewhere while you are able to enjoy your decision.
Finally, for me, I accept the continued growth, I don't have the interest or energy to become a crusader, I don't see anywhere else I want to live at this point. So......I'm happy to be here.
Will have to see what the future brings for the Villages.
Am kind of reminded of this though--
“When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer. (Technically a misquote, but I like the misquote better)”
― Plutarch
DangeloInspections
03-31-2019, 09:20 AM
The above quote, (#23) is about the wisest post I think I have ever read on TOTV.
A very smart inspector once told me that land will always find it's best needed or wanted purpose. If land IS going do be developed due to demand, I would rather see it developed by a quality developer. I personally think the Villages just keeps getting better. They know their customers needs and wants and seem to offer something for everyone.
One thing I think might need to be considered sometime down the road is more options for family communities. Despite what folks think, these are also needed. Outside the bubble, high end family communities are being built and sold like crazy. The Villages charter school is MILES away from anywhere the Villages is now building.
Retired over 55 folks need services. Those services need qualified people. Those people want to live somewhat close to where they work.
Before some get all riled up over the above statement, these family communities would have their OWN ammenities, and would not interfere with the normal Villages lifestyle.
Frank
Bogie Shooter
03-31-2019, 09:50 AM
The above quote, (#23) is about the wisest post I think I have ever read on TOTV.
I very smart inspector once told me that land will always find it's best needed or wanted purpose. If land IS going do be developed due to demand, I would rather see it developed by a quality developer. I personally think the Villages just keeps getting better. They know their customers needs and wants and seem to offer something for everyone.
One thing I think might need to be considered sometime down the road is more options for family communities. Despite what folks think, these are also needed. Outside the bubble, high end family communities are being built and sold like crazy. The Villages charter school is MILES away from anywhere the Villages is now building.
Retired over 55 folks need services. Those services need qualified people. Those people want to live somewhat close to where they work.
Before some get all riled up over the above statement, these family communities would have their OWN ammenities, and would not interfere with the normal Villages lifestyle.
Frank
Well stated.
Barefoot
03-31-2019, 10:39 AM
Embrace our size and appreciate the fact that you can always find YOUR special club, group, friends and entertainment. The villages is wonderful and gets better with every new neighborhood.True.
IMHO, the fact that we have unique Villages and they are immaculately maintained gives us a sense of pride.
Most Villages have golf courses, an adult pool and a family pool.
Restaurants and shopping are usually available by golf cart.
Life is very good in The Villages.
Quixote
03-31-2019, 11:30 AM
If it is develop-able, someone IS going to build there. Better a known entity with a track record, then an unknown.
What can be simpler to understand than this—and yet too many people want to close the door behind them now that they're here. Let's face it: The North is moving to the South. We have friends who bought into a small community in Groveland, where they got much more house and land than they had had in south FL. However, at some point the developer walked away, leaving a club house that was the Taj Mahal on the outside and Mold Heaven on the inside. Our friends were fortunate that their home had been completed; others homes were left in the middle of construction. It took FIVE YEARS until another developer came along and picked up the mess. The developer of TV is obviously doing something right....
If you expect to get service in a restaurant or store you need local employees and employees need a place to live.
Why too is this so difficult for many to understand? Workers have to live somewhere.... Yes, more family villages would be a help, but not all economic levels of workers can necessarily afford those.
The above quote, (#23) is about the wisest post I think I have ever read on TOTV.
A very smart inspector once told me that land will always find it's best needed or wanted purpose. If land IS going do be developed due to demand, I would rather see it developed by a quality developer. I personally think the Villages just keeps getting better. They know their customers needs and wants and seem to offer something for everyone.
One thing I think might need to be considered sometime down the road is more options for family communities. Despite what folks think, these are also needed. Outside the bubble, high end family communities are being built and sold like crazy. The Villages charter school is MILES away from anywhere the Villages is now building.
Retired over 55 folks need services. Those services need qualified people. Those people want to live somewhat close to where they work.
Before some get all riled up over the above statement, these family communities would have their OWN ammenities, and would not interfere with the normal Villages lifestyle.
Frank
I could not agree more. I live between 466 and 466A, and no matter how much construction is going on, my neighborhood is not changing! Whether development is whatever it is on the other side of Fenney (mentioned by an earlier poster) that's part of TV or developments right across Rainey Trail from TV—Lakeside Landings which is growing and a smaller development further down the road on the right toward US-301, the point is that development will continue as long as there's a demand for it, whether it's TV or elsewhere.
Think it's time to get while the getin's good
Could the poster please explain what this means? Thank you.
Madelaine Amee
03-31-2019, 05:14 PM
The above quote, (#23) is about the wisest post I think I have ever read on TOTV.
A very smart inspector once told me that land will always find it's best needed or wanted purpose. If land IS going do be developed due to demand, I would rather see it developed by a quality developer. I personally think the Villages just keeps getting better. They know their customers needs and wants and seem to offer something for everyone.
One thing I think might need to be considered sometime down the road is more options for family communities. Despite what folks think, these are also needed. Outside the bubble, high end family communities are being built and sold like crazy. The Villages charter school is MILES away from anywhere the Villages is now building.
Retired over 55 folks need services. Those services need qualified people. Those people want to live somewhat close to where they work.
Before some get all riled up over the above statement, these family communities would have their OWN ammenities, and would not interfere with the normal Villages lifestyle.
Frank
Excellent post Frank. However, I have two medical specialists who have moved from major cities and major hospitals to live the good life here, neither one was able to find a suitable home in TV. They both have children of varying ages in the TV school system, but they both had to build outside TV to get the homes and green space they needed. With the purchase of the many acres the Developer has, they may well have something on the drawing board for professionals in this income level. For instance, I know there is an equine development north of here where the house lots are 10 acres, if I know this then so does the Developer. The Developer is pretty savvy and I am sure he knows what the neighborhood needs in the way of homes.
I am looking forward to seeing TV develop and change through the years and I, for one, am not going anywhere!
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