Diversity in The Villages

[Fraugoofy]

Does anyone know if The Villages attempts to attract people from all cultures? With the current stats, I would guess the answer is no. Does anyone know the real answer?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/6b22fbcd51323de11f26dfc850445b9f.jpg

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[Velvet]

The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

[saratogaman]

A "colored" lady? What is that about? Maybe people are aware of such thinking and decide that this might not a receptive place to live.

[CWGUY]

The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

:what:

[asianthree]

The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

So not politically correct.

[Villageswimmer]

Does anyone know if The Villages attempts to attract people from all cultures? With the current stats, I would guess the answer is no. Does anyone know the real answer?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/6b22fbcd51323de11f26dfc850445b9f.jpg

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TV attempts to attract anyone with the bucks. It’s a business, folks.

[npwalters]

The color The Villages attempts to attract is green. ANY individual is welcome.

[billethkid]

TV attempts to attract anyone with the bucks. It’s a business, folks.

As stated above if you like it and can afford it then you come no matter what color, religion, politics or what ever other things the diversity frenzy of the day feeds upon.

The only measure is how old and can one write the check.
Then the chips and results fall where they may.

Most likely very much like where most of us came from.

[kcrazorbackfan]

The brochure for Lifestyles shows a lovely colored lady.... another question might be, does TV do anything to discourage diversity? Before someone gets offended, I really don’t know the answer.

Good lord. This is 2019; African-Americans are no longer referred to as "colored" people.

How about apologizing to people you've offended?

[Velvet]

Sorry, I’m not familiar with the term you guys use, whichever is politically correct, that’s the one I meant.

[Kenswing]

Over react much? The Villages is .40% African American. If they're offended let them speak for themselves. All this mock outrage is getting old.

[Tom C]

I have seen the THE BLUE MAN GROUP. They are great fun!

:thumbup: :boom: :22yikes: :rolleyes:

[Fraugoofy]

So not politically correct.Exactly my point, Asian3.

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[Fraugoofy]

Over react much? The Villages is .40% African American. If they're offended let them speak for themselves. All this mock outrage is getting old.How do you know we're not?

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[Bucco]

How do you know we're not?

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Don't think he even lives here, so not sure of his knowledge base.

But in response to your inquiry in the OP, I worked for The Villages and am familiar with key players. Having said that, I would be totally shocked if The Villages did anything but market The Villages as what it is, and race or ethnicity does not enter into marketing. Green money is the color they seek.

[Kenswing]

How do you know we're not?

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If you're African American then you have every right to post your concern. If that's the case does everyone else need to be outraged for you? Velvet used "Colored" and everyone is freaking out.. I guess I'm just not that socially sensitive..

[Kenswing]

Don't think he even lives here, so not sure of his knowledge base.

Thank you for your reply..

[Velvet]

I had no idea that ‘colored’ was offensive. I am not from the US as I have mentioned in my other posts. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention.

[Fraugoofy]

If you're African American then you have every right to post your concern. If that's the case does everyone else need to be outraged for you? Velvet used "Colored" and everyone is freaking out.. I guess I'm just not that socially sensitive..So you can only be concerned if you are what you are concerned about? Are you concerned about women who get raped even if you are a man? Are you concerned about children who are abused even if you are not a child? Your logic doesn't make sense...

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[Kenswing]

So you can only be concerned if you are what you are concerned about? Are you concerned about women who get raped even if you are a man? Are you concerned about children who are abused even if you are not a child? Your logic doesn't make sense...

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Lets not get silly.. Calling someone "colored" instead of African American was an honest mistake by Violet.

If someone called me a white boy instead of caucasian would I expect you to get upset on my behalf? No I wouldn't. If I had a problem with it I would let you know myself.

I swear, if people aren't getting upset about something they're just not happy..

[Fraugoofy]

Lets not get silly.. Calling someone "colored" instead of African American was an honest mistake by Violet.



If someone called me a white boy instead of caucasian would I expect you to get upset on my behalf? No I wouldn't. If I had a problem with it I would let you know myself.



I swear, if people aren't getting upset about something they're just not happy..I wasn't upset. What did I say that made you think that?

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[ColdNoMore]

A "colored" lady? What is that about? Maybe people are aware of such thinking and decide that this might not a receptive place to live.

EXACTLY! :ohdear:

[graciegirl]

I had no idea that ‘colored’ was offensive. I am not from the US as I have mentioned in my other posts. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention.

It is kind of old fashioned, but I don't see anything that would be upsetting. People are people. We are all different and we are all valuable.

Unless they break the law, want to change this lovely place, or pee in Lake Sumter, they are welcome .

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[Nucky]

Does anyone know if The Villages attempts to attract people from all cultures? With the current stats, I would guess the answer is no. Does anyone know the real answer?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/6b22fbcd51323de11f26dfc850445b9f.jpg

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Hey, Fraugoofy I looked around on the Internet and didn't find anything about The Villages trying to attract any specific brand of people. I also didn't find anything about them trying to get people of the predominant culture that is here to move here. I guess it sorta just happened but I'll bet I going to learn why from several others.

I did find a lot of information about the clubs and activities that the people who move here put together once they landed. I am white and notice remarks daily in different opinion pieces and as of late from others on television who speak unkindly of my race. I don't care. I am proud of who and what I am and nobody's words can take that from me. Velvet's comment was not meant to be hurtful in my opinion.

I am far from a racist and choose to not say why. Those who know me personally can vouge for that being true, I couldn't find a link for that either or I would post it.

Certainly being confused on thread after thread is tiresome as an excuse for stirring the pot and then acting apologetic when the explanation must be offered to straighten out the person in error.

If I'm not proud of being who I am then who would be proud for me.
We have neighbors of every race and color in our neighborhood and they are just wonderful. :clap2:

I wish I had a better answer to your question and if I see something I'll be certain to reach out and post the link. PEACE OUT!

[Fraugoofy]

Hey, Fraugoofy I looked around on the Internet and didn't find anything about The Villages trying to attract any specific brand of people. I also didn't find anything about them trying to get people of the predominant culture that is here to move here. I guess it sorta just happened but I'll bet I going to learn why from several others.



I did find a lot of information about the clubs and activities that the people who move here put together once they landed. I am white and notice remarks daily in different opinion pieces and as of late from others on television who speak unkindly of my race. I don't care. I am proud of who and what I am and nobody's words can take that from me. Velvet's comment was not meant to be hurtful in my opinion.



I am far from a racist and choose to not say why. Those who know me personally can vouge for that being true, I couldn't find a link for that either or I would post it.



Certainly being confused on thread after thread is tiresome as an excuse for stirring the pot and then acting apologetic when the explanation must be offered to straighten out the person in error.



If I'm not proud of being who I am then who would be proud for me.

We have neighbors of every race and color in our neighborhood and they are just wonderful. :clap2:



I wish I had a better answer to your question and if I see something I'll be certain to reach out and post the link. PEACE OUT!Every person deserves to be treated with grace and dignity. Nucky, I know in my heart you do that... Fondly, Frau.

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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Apologies to Velvet on this post that I just edited. I didn't realize she wasn't American and her understanding of derogatory terms isn't the same as ours. My post was expressing my concern for her ignorance. And now I realize it was because she is truly "not knowledgeable" of American vernacular and etymology. So again my apologies.

[tophcfa]

It is kind of old fashioned, but I don't see anything that would be upsetting. People are people. We are all different and we are all valuable.

Unless they break the law, want to change this lovely place, or pee in Lake Sumter, they are welcome .

As usual, I agree with Graciegirl.

[villagerjack]

Don't think he even lives here, so not sure of his knowledge base.

But in response to your inquiry in the OP, I worked for The Villages and am familiar with key players. Having said that, I would be totally shocked if The Villages did anything but market The Villages as what it is, and race or ethnicity does not enter into marketing. Green money is the color they seek.

When you worked what color was the money you sought ?

[gomsiepop]

Sorry, I’m not familiar with the term you guys use, whichever is politically correct, that’s the one I meant.

Lighten up everyone. I'm sure this person meant to say "people of color"

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[Taltarzac725]

We have been here in the Villages since June of 2005 and have met people of many different ethnic groups. The Villages does seem overall Anglo American in make-up but there are many employees or workers-- especially in the medical fields-- who are from all over the world. A lot of these workers live in areas around the Villages and maybe even here in the Villages if 55 or over or if they have a member of their family 55 or over.

My sister-in-law is from Jamaica and would start up conversations at I-Hop with strangers. As well as at other places here in the Villages.

[thetruth]

Sorry, I’m not familiar with the term you guys use, whichever is politically correct, that’s the one I meant.

Sadly, today, out comes the RACE CARD on far too many subjects.
The accusation is overused to the point that it is meaningless.
My point, politically correct point-I hope. The term racist has been used soooooo often that it is about as meaningless as the term-awesome.

Calling someone racist is effective because you've already judged them guilty. Any reply is the same as a reply to the question, do you still beat your wife.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We have been here in the Villages since June of 2005 and have met people of many different ethnic groups. The Villages does seem overall Anglo American in make-up but there are many employees or workers-- especially in the medical fields-- who are from all over the world. A lot of these workers live in areas around the Villages and maybe even here in the Villages if 55 or over or if they have a member of their family 55 or over.

My sister-in-law is from Jamaica and would start up conversations at I-Hop with strangers. As well as at other places here in the Villages.

This is a very important point, I think, one that hasn't been mentioned yet.

Summary: The Villages *residency* is primarily white. But the Villages is not JUST homes, it is commercial space, the town squares, tons and tons of public space where people from outside the Villages come to work, shop, and even dance.

Odds are, you'll run into people of all races and hues and accents and cultures while you're out and about, and that, in my opinion, can only be a marvelous thing!

[Mikeod]

One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

[ColdNoMore]

One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:

The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better. :ho:

[graciegirl]

One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

Well said.

[villagerjack]

One of the attractive facets of this community is the wide spread in the price of housing. I could see where a community with homes starting in 7 figures could effectively hinder ethnic diversity. But I don’t see that here. There really is a home for everyone. Another is that I find few villagers who judge fellow residents by the house they own, or their former occupation, or their income.

The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors.

You make a well informed point, seldom if ever noted. Folks ask me why I bought homes in “ Over 55” Communities and they are surprised at my answer. It is not about the golf other activities it is about the lack of any class structure. I played golf with maintenance men and once with a 4 star General and the mother of a big movie star. The men both looked alike and acted the same. The woman was fun to be with. Men Even dressed the same. I joke that a Village resident could hold up a bank at 9AM and not miss a Tee Time at 9:53. Law Enforcement would be out looking for an older man with grey or no hair, wearing golf shorts and shirt, a ball cap and sneakers. Good luck to them.

[JoMar]

I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:



The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better. :ho:

:bigbow:

[villagerjack]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1641464]
I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:

The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better. :ho:[/QUOTE

The world as seen through a pair of dark colored glasses. Usually by people who think they are the only one that really cares. Everyone else is a bigot.

[Bucco]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1641464]
I totally concur that in a perfect world, that's the way...it SHOULD be. :thumbup:

I have to admit to being shocked though, when occasionally being around a number of friends and fellow golfers in small groups, who would otherwise never publicly make such statements in larger groups, have expressed some very racist/bigoted/xenophobic/misogynistic views...when they think they're among 'like-minded' others (making the grave mistake that I'm one who shares those views). :ohdear:

We even see the occasional post here, of those who come right out and say that the main reason they moved here...is specifically because of the lack of diversity. :oops:

The good news is that there's proof the younger generations have shown to be much less inclined to be this way and as our age group dies off and the "young'ins" reach retirement age...maybe things will change for the better. :ho:[/QUOTE

The world as seen through a pair of dark colored glasses. Usually by people who think they are the only one that really cares. Everyone else is a bigot.



CARING is extremely easy to recognize....very easy. It is reflected in honesty of words and actions.

If you don't care, you say whatever is helpful to YOU, and if you don't care, you do whatever helps YOU. OR, you say and do different things. THAT has become commonplace.

Today's headlines and video replays reflect.

""Racial prejudice, anti-Semitism, or hatred of anyone with different beliefs has no place in the human mind or heart."

Rev Billy Graham

[Fredster]

Yes there probably is less diversity in TV than some other places.
People here are generally very welcoming!
And in the years I’ve been here, I have met people of almost every ethnicity,
and we all seem to get along quite nicely!

[Taltarzac725]

Yes there probably is less diversity in TV than some other places.
People here are generally very welcoming!
And in the years I’ve been here, I have met people of almost every ethnicity,
and we all seem to get along quite nicely!

I have been donating blood at One Blood on their bloodmobiles as well as at their Lady Lake Office since 2007 and many of their workers are African-American, Hispanic or some combination of these.

And the physicians I or members of my family have gone to here in the Villages' area are Asian-American, Arab-American, Finnish-American, and many other ethnicities.

Pharmacists have been Korean-American and many other identities.

[Fredster]

I have been donating blood at One Blood on their bloodmobiles as well as at their Lady Lake Office since 2007 and many of their workers are African-American, Hispanic or some combination of these.

And the physicians I or members of my family have gone to here in the Villages' area are Asian-American, Arab-American, Finnish-American, and many other ethnicities.

Pharmacists have been Korean-American and many other identities.

I have had similar experiences as those you mention, but I also have met many Villagers having diverse ethnic backgrounds!

[Villageswimmer]

Why do people need to put labels on people? That and name calling?

[billethkid]

Why do people need to put labels on people? That and name calling?

Exactly!!

[blueash]

Where have you seen ads for TV? I think I've seen them on the Golf channel and of course in retirement magazines. Where else? Do they advertise on FOX or MSNBC, or BET or Univision? If ads are a useful method of selling TV, then where do the Morses place their ads? That might have something to do with the fact that our community does not mirror the make up of America.

[villagerjack]

Where have you seen ads for TV? I think I've seen them on the Golf channel and of course in retirement magazines. Where else? Do they advertise on FOX or MSNBC, or BET or Univision? If ads are a useful method of selling TV, then where do the Morses place their ads? That might have something to do with the fact that our community does not mirror the make up of America.

The “make up of America” was a lot different in the 1940s when most of the Villagers were born. These folks, primarily first and second generation of European descent are now retired. Then came the Kennedys and the rest is history.

[Fraugoofy]

The “make up of America” was a lot different in the 1940s when most of the Villagers were born. These folks, primarily first and second generation of European descent are now retired. Then came the Kennedys and the rest is history.Actually the average age of a Villager is 60 for female and 62 for male, which puts their birthday in the late 1950's (1957 And 1959 respectively)...and not the 1940's when "most of us were born."

Some of us Villagers were born during Vietnam. I guess that explain a lot about the different viewpoints and attitudes toward diversity and culture.

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[Fraugoofy]

WIKI

n 2018, the median age for both sexes in The Villages metropolitan statistical area is 67.4, with this being 29 years older than a typical American, and five years older than the median age of residents in the next-oldest county in the United States, which is on the Hawaiian island of Molokai.[25]



that would make it about 1950 or earlier perhaps for a lot of folks I eyeball. Vietnam was in the mid 1960s. I doubt we have many in that age category.



In any event, my point was not about the age but that most of the immigration was from Europe until the Kennedys got involved.Have your heard of the South of Sixty Club? Look them up on Facebook. Lots and lots of people in that age bracket here in TV. Many of whom are helping TV become more diverse.

As one previous (and wise poster) stated:

"The best and only way for diversity to be addressed is for the residents to continue to be welcoming, considerate, and accepting to their neighbors."

As the OP of this topic, I am finished discussing the non-existence of diversity in TV.

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[villagerjack]

The topic was not about age. You should know since you started the thread.Most of the NOTS I know do not spend any time at all worrying about how old my fellow Villagers are or what race they are. Lack of different skin colors does not mean lack of Diversity unless you are a person guilty of Profiling. It is a waste of time and if that is what the SOTS are all about it is just one more thing I am not interested in.

[Fraugoofy]

Blech...

[Parker]

Why are you trying to start something ugly? I've never even heard of anyone not being welcome here.

[ColdNoMore]

The topic was not about age. You should know since you started the thread.Most of the NOTS I know do not spend any time at all worrying about how old my fellow Villagers are or what race they are. Lack of different skin colors does not mean lack of Diversity unless you are a person guilty of Profiling. It is a waste of time and if that is what the SOTS are all about it is just one more thing I am not interested in.

Oh the irony. :1rotfl:

Us poor old white folks, we have it so darned rough, even after working so hard to earn the right to be born with the single biggest head start (being born Caucasian)...one could have in this country.

Oh wait, we didn't really 'earn' that lucky privilege...we are just members of the 'lucky sperm club.' :oops:

And yet, so many act like they are superior/entitled due to some sort of privilege, based solely on...a lucky roll of the cosmic dice.

Just ask how many of these people wished they had been born with black skin, ask them why they are glad they weren't after they say "NO"...and you have the answer as to the root of the problem. :ohdear:

[Fredster]

Why are you trying to start something ugly? I've never even heard of anyone not being welcome here.
:welcome:I haven’t either!

[villagerjack]

Oh the irony. :1rotfl:

Us poor old white folks, we have it so darned rough, even after working so hard to earn the right to be born with the single biggest head start (being born Caucasian)...one could have in this country.

Oh wait, we didn't really 'earn' that lucky privilege...we are just members of the 'lucky sperm club.' :oops:

And yet, so many act like they are superior/entitled due to some sort of privilege, based solely on...a lucky roll of the cosmic dice.

Just ask how many of these people wished they had been born with black skin, ask them why they are glad they weren't after they say "NO"...and you have the answer as to the root of the problem. :ohdear:



Wow! Admitting you think of yourself as Superior to folks of all other races because you were born Caucasian is the kind of thinking that propelled a leader of an entire European Country to exterminate tens of millions of others. Do you really think that way ? Thank God there are not many who do. There is no place for that kind of thinking.

[villagerjack]

Why are you trying to start something ugly? I've never even heard of anyone not being welcome here.

Me neither.

[villagerjack]

The Moderator should close this thread. I am headed to Services and I hope to erase the ugly thoughts expressed by that poster.

[Fredster]

As stated above if you like it and can afford it then you come no matter what color, religion, politics or what ever other things the diversity frenzy of the day feeds upon.

The only measure is how old and can one write the check.
Then the chips and results fall where they may.

Most likely very much like where most of us came from.

:bigbow:

[Fraugoofy]

Why are you trying to start something ugly? I've never even heard of anyone not being welcome here.I brought up for discussion the question of diversity in The Villages.. Nothing ugly about that.

I was really happy to see most people who responded are extremely welcoming (as it should be).

Unfortunately it only takes one Apple to spoil the bunch.

Enuf said. OVER AND OUT...

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[spring_chicken]

I had no idea that ‘colored’ was offensive. I am not from the US as I have mentioned in my other posts. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention.

Depends on whether one is looking to be offended. I've noticed that the NAACP has not changed their name. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Apparently it doesn't offend them!

[retiredguy123]

Why do people need to put labels on people? That and name calling?
I think it is human nature. I'm watching The Masters, and they can't stop saying that Molinari would be the first Italian to win a major tournament.