Fenny or ???

[meriboo]

Planning on moving to the villages. New builds are in Fenny. What are your thoughts on That area? Seems a bit far from all the other things that are happening in the villages.

[Nucky]

I don't live there but it's outstanding. Not being connected yet would be a nice trade-off as far as I'm concerned. It's a personal thing, you have to see for yourself.

Every area in the entire joint has strong points and drawbacks. The drawbacks in our area are minor.

You'll be fine wherever you land. Good Luck.

[Bogie Shooter]

Planning on moving to the villages. New builds are in Fenny. What are your thoughts on That area? Seems a bit far from all the other things that are happening in the villages.

Do a search on here. Many posts pro & con.
Have you been here? That will help.
A bit far right now.....but the future is bright.

[JoMar]

Fenny is built out so no new construction going on, what is available are the spec homes.....there are many other neighborhoods that are under construction so you can have input on what you want built and several of the neighborhoods are farther north from Fenny.

[tophcfa]

Depends on what lifestyle you are looking for and how soon you want it. If you place a value on long nature walking trails then buy in the new build-area. If you are planning on full time residency right away and don't want to wait for a full menu of amenities, then look in the northern sections. If you want to be able to do just about anything via golf cart and don't want to wait for development/connectivity, avoid Fenny. If you place a great value in Championship golf that you can easily get to in your golf cart, avoid the new build out areas. I have no doubt that the new build out areas will eventually be spectacular, but there is clearly not an emphasis in Championship golf but instead different amenity options geared toward the next generation of retires. Since we place a high value on Championship golf and being able to do just about anything we want via our golf cart, the new build out areas are not for us. And we only have a finite amount of active years left, so we certainly don't want to wait. That's why we bought in the Lake Sumter/Spanish Springs area.

[Duppa]

First thing... The area south of 44 is ALL Southern Oaks... Fenney was the first village south of 44, but it is only one village of many new villages of Southern Oaks.

Fenney is completed built out... there are some 10 or 11 spec houses left... From Fenney, the next village (to the East) is DeSoto, it is also ALL BUILT (with only spec houses left), next to that (to East) is McClure. I believe that is now completely built out (but there may be a few lots here and there).... After those, for new lots, you have Marsh Bend to the North, Linden to the East and another new village, Monarch...

All of these areas are building FAST...

Good luck. It is ALL beautiful and AMAZING!

[VApeople]

If you like to go for walks, Fenney and the other Southern Oaks villages are the place to live.

The rest of The Villages is crummy for walkers. The Multi-Modal paths are too dangerous (just last week we saw the paramedics treating an injured lady on the MMP), in the neighborhoods you can't walk side-by-side because of the cars, and the sidewalks are not enjoyable because they a foot away from the golf cart lanes.

You may not know the number of walking trails (no carts allowed) in the Southern Oaks area. There are miles of trails and some of them are exceptionally beautiful.

In my opinion, Linden and Monarch Grove will be the best areas. Marsh Bend is a great place to visit, but I think it will be a zoo when it and De Luna are finished.

[eweissenbach]

Our Daughter has a 3/2 courtyard villa in DeSoto for rent on a 6 month or longer basis. You might want to try before you buy. Send me a pm for details.

[Serenoa]

If you like to go for walks, Fenney and the other Southern Oaks villages are the place to live.

The rest of The Villages is crummy for walkers. The Multi-Modal paths are too dangerous (just last week we saw the paramedics treating an injured lady on the MMP), in the neighborhoods you can't walk side-by-side because of the cars, and the sidewalks are not enjoyable because they a foot away from the golf cart lanes.

You may not know the number of walking trails (no carts allowed) in the Southern Oaks area. There are miles of trails and some of them are exceptionally beautiful.

In my opinion, Linden and Monarch Grove will be the best areas. Marsh Bend is a great place to visit, but I think it will be a zoo when it and De Luna are finished.

I agreed with everything said, until your last line. Can't help but wonder why anyone thinks Marsh Bend & De Luna "will be a zoo"when built out.

[coffeebean]

Southern Oaks is far from the stores and restaurants along the 441 stomping ground that is north of 466. These retail stores and restaurants are more important to me than walking trails. I want to be a hop, skip and a jump to Home Depot, Michael's, Target, Kohl's, Best Buy, Pier One Imports, Lowes, Pet Smart, etc, etc. Restaurants such as Chilis, Carabbas, Bamboo Bistro, Texas Roadhouse, Applebees, etc, etc. are also more important to me than walking trails.

Southern Oaks is beautiful but......getting there is not so beautiful and I won't go into that. You must see it to understand.

There is something for everyone here in The Villages. You have to see the entire area and what is available for the lifestyle you are looking for. Southern Oaks is not for everyone and then the northern Villages is not for everyone either. As I said, you must see it to make a decision which is best for you.

[champion6]

Planning on moving to the villages. New builds are in Fenny. What are your thoughts on That area? Seems a bit far from all the other things that are happening in the villages.
Do a search on here. Many posts pro & con.
Have you been here? That will help.
A bit far right now.....but the future is bright.
Fenny is built out so no new construction going on, what is available are the spec homes.....there are many other neighborhoods that are under construction so you can have input on what you want built and several of the neighborhoods are farther north from Fenny.PO, when you do a search, it is Fenney, not Fenny.

[Fraugoofy]

Fenney or bust!

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[VApeople]

Can't help but wonder why anyone thinks Marsh Bend & De Luna "will be a zoo"when built out.

Because there is only one road (Marsh Bend Trail) to get in and out. One end of that road will be at 301 and the other at Warm Springs Ave, which is several miles away.

The people who live in the middle, like in De Luna, will have to drive miles just to get out to a main road, which will irritate them, so they will drive faster. Since Marsh Bend Trail has a lot of curves and the road is shared with golf carts, I think there will be more accidents than we see on roads like Moyer or Odell.

The people in Linden and Monarch Grove will much easier access to 501.

[graciegirl]

PO, when you do a search, it is Fenney, not Fenny.

Always reasonable and helpful posts. You are such a good help on this forum.

I am your fan.

[vintageogauge]

South of 44 is in a few words, very relaxing. The commercial development will come and golf car connectivity is currently under construction. A lot of new and different amenities down here and many more in the works. As noted above, take your time and look at all the villages and what they have to offer. We will be here in Fenney 2 years next week and really enjoy it.

[Kerry Azz]

Planning on moving to the villages. New builds are in Fenny. What are your thoughts on That area? Seems a bit far from all the other things that are happening in the villages.

If your looking to enjoy the villages lifestyle Fenny is not the place to live. I’ve only heard negative feedback from folks that live there, it’s so far from everything the villages is all about.

[Bill Torres]

I bought in the De Soto Village and all I can say is positive remarks about the complete area. Its amazing to see the amount of people we receive at our Canine Park that are from "The North". And their comments are all favorable.

They way we view it is, we bought in the "VILLAGES" and never worried about the pros and cons. We enjoy our trips to the north via Buena Vista or Morse Blvd. The scenery on each trip always brings us something new to see.


And that's what counts enjoying our retirement.

[vintageogauge]

If your looking to enjoy the villages lifestyle Fenny is not the place to live. I’ve only heard negative feedback from folks that live there, it’s so far from everything the villages is all about.

That is totally untrue. OP if you want to know more about Fenney and how the residents feel you can request to join the Village of Fenney Facebook page, there you will see posts from those who actually live in Fenney and enjoy being here, there are also pages for Desoto, and McClure. I have been here two years next week and can assure you there is very minimal negativity in Fenney, everyone is new to the experience and are enjoying meeting and socializing with the other residents. The new amenities provided south of 44 cannot be found in other villages, if you have dogs there are Veranda Designer homes with fully fenced in private yards, more family pools that welcome your children and grandchildren than anywhere else in TV, i can go on and on. There are parties both large and small on a weekly basis, you can be as social or as private as you want to be, there is so much to do down here that you can keep busy all day long. Don't believe what you read from outsiders, many of them have been bashing Fenney since day one but in just two years it has become the the most populated village within The Villages having over 3,600 residents and less than a dozen re-sale homes and only 10 new spec. homes on the market at this time. It's a great place to live and retire. I am not saying this is for everyone but there are a ton of happy campers down here.

[BK001]

. . . I am not saying this is for everyone but there are a ton of happy campers down here.

And that is what it is all about! In the 3 years we have lived here, and 6 years that I have been reading posts on TOTV, I don't remember anyone saying they dislike their village. I love my village but I will bet I would love ANY village. It is all so beautiful and peaceful and, well, just perfect!

[Lottoguy]

I agree, location of many stores and restaurants are more important. You can take a walk anywhere. But, you cannot do that when you need butter or a fast sandwich. Location is more important to me then new.

[ColdNoMore]

If your looking to enjoy the villages lifestyle Fenny is not the place to live. I’ve only heard negative feedback from folks that live there, it’s so far from everything the villages is all about.

I can totally understand where Fenny would appeal to a certain group of people, particularly those who don't plan on using their golf carts as primary transportation...to a plethora of golf courses/ shopping/medical appointments/large choice of restaurants/Etc...or who prefer walking/hiking trails over MMP's.

For me though (and different strokes for different folks), I personally still think the 'Heart of The Villages'...will always be about a 4 mile radius around Lake Sumter Landing. :shrug:

[Bogie Shooter]

Because there is only one road (Marsh Bend Trail) to get in and out. One end of that road will be at 301 and the other at Warm Springs Ave, which is several miles away.

The people who live in the middle, like in De Luna, will have to drive miles just to get out to a main road, which will irritate them, so they will drive faster. Since Marsh Bend Trail has a lot of curves and the road is shared with golf carts, I think there will be more accidents than we see on roads like Moyer or Odell.

The people in Linden and Monarch Grove will much easier access to 501.

Have you observed people speeding on Marsh Bend Trail?

[Bogie Shooter]

If your looking to enjoy the villages lifestyle Fenny is not the place to live. I’ve only heard negative feedback from folks that live there, it’s so far from everything the villages is all about.

Its Fenney.
I have heard just the opposite.
Fenney bashing is no longer funny.

[Bogie Shooter]

I agree, location of many stores and restaurants are more important. You can take a walk anywhere. But, you cannot do that when you need butter or a fast sandwich. Location is more important to me then new.
Are you looking to relocate?

[EdFNJ]

If I were 55 again I'd love to live down there. In another 4-5 years you'll probably see 301 as a 6 lane toll road, there will be a mall where the late Whitey B used to reside and "Senior Disney" where the limestone quarry now is and lots of malls on either side and maybe even a Costco (JUST KIDDING!) :D Right now it's over 14 miles and 9999 roundabouts from 441 to furthest point south and it would be a hellava cart ride to Spanish Springs and just a long ride to LS even when it eventually becomes possible to do that. If you're young(ish) and have time to wait go for the newest areas but if you're nearing the end of your statistical time on earth go further north for every year closer you get to that pushing up daisies number.

If you want NEW, though that's probably your only option.

[Bogie Shooter]

I can totally understand where Fenny would appeal to a certain group of people, particularly those who don't plan on using their golf carts as primary transportation...to a plethora of golf courses/ shopping/medical appointments/large choice of restaurants/Etc...or who prefer walking/hiking trails over MMP's.

For me though (and different strokes for different folks), I personally still think the 'Heart of The Villages'...will always be about a 4 mile radius around Lake Sumter Landing. :shrug:

Its Fenney…………………………………….. .

[photo1902]

I agree, location of many stores and restaurants are more important. You can take a walk anywhere. But, you cannot do that when you need butter or a fast sandwich. Location is more important to me then new.

Yes. That 5 minute ride to the Publix at 44/Morse would be brutal. Smh.

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes. That 5 minute ride to the Publix at 44/Morse would be brutal. Smh.

:)...

[Midnight Cowgirl]

If your looking to enjoy the villages lifestyle Fenny is not the place to live. I’ve only heard negative feedback from folks that live there, it’s so far from everything the villages is all about.

I agree, location of many stores and restaurants are more important. You can take a walk anywhere. But, you cannot do that when you need butter or a fast sandwich. Location is more important to me then new.


What's with all the Fenney bashing? I just don't get it. If you read the comments from those who live there, they love it! And they love it for all good reasons. What they have there cannot be found in the "regular" Villages.

If you are out of butter, there's always your next door neighbor! And once you have to get in your car to go to a restaurant, five minutes or five miles is the same thing!

:spoken:

[vintageogauge]

What's with all the Fenney bashing? I just don't get it. If you read the comments from those who live there, they love it! And they love it for all good reasons. What they have there cannot be found in the "regular" Villages.

If you are out of butter, there's always your next door neighbor! And once you have to get in your car to go to a restaurant, five minutes or five miles is the same thing!

:spoken:

Cowgirl, they have been bashing Fenney for two years but it still has grown into the most populous of any of The Villages but they just can't give it up. They don't read anything, just make up stuff to put on here and can't even spell Fenney correctly. We have MMT's all around the area that will soon be tied into the old villages, less than 10 minutes from Brownwood that will soon have another large medical facility, they are building a medical complex on Warm Springs just across the turnpike and announced that there will be 4 restaurants in the plaza at 501 and Warm Springs. And you are correct, the comments from those who reside here are all positive.

[TomOB]

Fenney will be in the middle of The Villages in a couple of years.

[JoMar]

Could some of the bashing be from envy.....have heard comments that they should now add some of Southern Oaks amenities close to 466. I suspect as the commercial areas emerge and new restaurants, stores and entertainment show up we may see more bashing or complaining. There are lots of us that love where we live, and most all believe we live in the best neighborhood in The Villages, but bashing other folks choices or their ability to make good decisions for their lifestyle or the Developers vision on what works for others is rude.

[JoanneL]

We recently chose a Veranda in McClure / New Hampton, a community of just over 80 homes. We wanted a house rather than a villa, but also wanted a fenced back yard, so a Veranda is the perfect choice for us. We also wanted a neighborhood where everyone was new at about the same time, with everyone wanting to make new friends. Last night we attended a neighborhood cookout and party. Everyone was invited and there was a huge turnout. Everyone was so friendly and we couldn't be happier.

[fw102807]

Its Fenney…………………………………….. .

It's not even...it is DeSoto and McClure and so much more and it is beautiful.

[VApeople]

Have you observed people speeding on Marsh Bend Trail?

Nope.

We love to visit Marsh Bend. We love the pitch-and-putt golf course and we love the 2.8 mile walk around Hogeye Marsh and, after a long (by our standards) walk, we look forward to stopping at the new food trucks promised for the Cattail Rec Center.

Since we do not have a golf cart that has to share the road with cars, we don't care if people speed along Marsh Bend Trail or not. If and when the cars exceed the speed limit, I assume the golf cart riders will care.

[Bogie Shooter]

Could some of the bashing be from envy.....have heard comments that they should now add some of Southern Oaks amenities close to 466. I suspect as the commercial areas emerge and new restaurants, stores and entertainment show up we may see more bashing or complaining. There are lots of us that love where we live, and most all believe we live in the best neighborhood in The Villages, but bashing other folks choices or their ability to make good decisions for their lifestyle or the Developers vision on what works for others is rude.

:)...

[coffeebean]

I agree, location of many stores and restaurants are more important. You can take a walk anywhere. But, you cannot do that when you need butter or a fast sandwich. Location is more important to me then new.

Those who live south of 44..... I have read that the standard lots south of 44 are smaller than the standard lots north of 44. Is that true?

[coffeebean]

For me though (and different strokes for different folks), I personally still think the 'Heart of The Villages'...will always be about a 4 mile radius around Lake Sumter Landing. :shrug:

Totally agree. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE our location in Mallory Square. Can't beat it!

[vintageogauge]

Those who live south of 44..... I have read that the standard lots south of 44 are smaller than the standard lots north of 44. Is that true?

I don't know, we rented a designer in Pinellas while we were shopping for our Fenney home and it's yard was no larger than the one we bought. In our case we don't have much of a back yard but we're on water so the lawn area around it feels like our back yard and TV maintains it. There are a lot of waterfront and nature lots down here with great views along with peace and quiet. Lots of birds in the water eating fish and sneaking around the alligators, very relaxing when on the lanai.

[graciegirl]

If your looking to enjoy the villages lifestyle Fenny is not the place to live. I’ve only heard negative feedback from folks that live there, it’s so far from everything the villages is all about.

I don't think you have been paying close attention.

Many of the anonymous bashers are MLS realtors who cannot sell new homes.

The people who live there, such as VintageOgauge and others who have posted since they moved to Fenney, enjoy living there and watching while things are rapidly built.

I don't and never did sell houses so I can tell you that I think that Fenney et al is lovely and moving rapidly to become contiguous to the rest of The Villages.

[Bucco]

I don't think you have been paying close attention.

Many of the anonymous bashers are MLS realtors who cannot sell new homes.

The people who live there, such as VintageOgauge and others who have posted since they moved to Fenney, enjoy living there and watching while things are rapidly built.

I don't and never did sell houses so I can tell you that I think that Fenney et al is lovely and moving rapidly to become contiguous to the rest of The Villages.

You make one heck of a very serious allegation against realtors.

Can you substantiate any of it ?

Pretty serious charge being leveled. Not sure how you know or even what kind of posts you allude to, but that's a serious charge.

[Bogie Shooter]

Those who live south of 44..... I have read that the standard lots south of 44 are smaller than the standard lots north of 44. Is that true?

What is a standard lot? And where did you read this?

[VApeople]

You can take a walk anywhere.

You are correct, as long as your "anywhere" includes a dangerous MMP, a neighborhood street with cars coming up behind you, or a sidewalk where the golf carts whiz by a foot away from you.

The walking trails in Southern Oaks are MUCH nicer.

[meriboo]

Yes, plan to relocate. Last Oct. Hurricane Michael took my house away. So, it is time I get replanted.

[Serenoa]

You make one heck of a very serious allegation against realtors.

Can you substantiate any of it ?

Pretty serious charge being leveled. Not sure how you know or even what kind of posts you allude to, but that's a serious charge.

Well, for what it's worth we've had three realtors (two independent and one with close ties to another 55+ community) bash Fenney in no uncertain terms. I'm not going to mention any names, but two mentioned that big hole in the ground & the nearby federal facility, and the other claimed that homes there would not appreciate in value like the rest of TV because of the "less than desireable " neighborhoods that you have to pass by in order to get there. We listened to NONE of them (nor any of the bashers on here) & plan on buying in McClure, Monarch Grove or Marsh Bend sometime this summer. Can't wait to live down there.

[Velvet]

I was fortunate to have had an exceptional MLS Realtor, there was never a mention of any area that was negative. At no time did they try to dissuade me from the “new” areas. Only after I had already bought was a casual mention of a prison location.

[vintageogauge]

Why is it that everytime a topic concerning Fenney is posted those of you who do not live here and know nothing about Fenney other than what you read from other bashers stay off the topic and allow those of us who live here to answer the questions. There are only 10 homes left to sell in Fenney until they start building on the 159 acres to the west of here so why not focus your energies on bashing Southern Oaks?

[asianthree]

You make one heck of a very serious allegation against realtors.

Can you substantiate any of it ?

Pretty serious charge being leveled. Not sure how you know or even what kind of posts you allude to, but that's a serious charge.

We are looking for a home with a pool. There were two MLS agents at the open house.

We had just come from McClure, looking at a pool home, and was comparing it with this home. Both agents strongly warned us to never buy there, it was unsafe to use the walking trails. The multiple times a day explosions from the mine, that rattle
D the windows cause furniture to fall over and the massive cracks in the walls, foundation and drives.

The homes are not selling, and they are giving them away. Those that have bought already are just walking away from their homes because they are so unhappy.

I started to laughing so hard I got the hiccups. Informed the lack of professional two, that we have lived here since 2010, that we know many who have moved to the new area, and the only reason We would never use either of them or the agency that they worked for was due to the fear and the lies, they were trying to instill on those who came to the open house, about the new area. Not the first time we have been warned by a MLS.
So Here’s Your Sign.

[ColdNoMore]

You make one heck of a very serious allegation against realtors.

Can you substantiate any of it ?

Pretty serious charge being leveled. Not sure how you know or even what kind of posts you allude to, but that's a serious charge.

:agree:

[coffeebean]

What is a standard lot? And where did you read this?

Standard lots are any lot that does not have a lot premium. For example... a standard lot is smaller with a "kissing lanai". A lot at the end of a cul-de-sac is larger and will have a lot premium when purchasing a new home.

I read about standard lots being smaller in the south right here on TOTV.

[coffeebean]

You are correct, as long as your "anywhere" includes a dangerous MMP, a neighborhood street with cars coming up behind you, or a sidewalk where the golf carts whiz by a foot away from you.

The walking trails in Southern Oaks are MUCH nicer.

Hubby and I walk in our neighborhood in Mallory Square. It is very quiet in the morning and we feel very safe. We don't walk on the MMP as that does not feel safe to us.

[Bay Kid]

I walk my neighborhood, go around Palmer Country Club. Great walk. Really love being close to Sumter Landing. Convenient to SS and Brownwood. Middle of golf, shopping restaurants and I don't need a car.

[coffeebean]

Well, for what it's worth we've had three realtors (two independent and one with close ties to another 55+ community) bash Fenney in no uncertain terms. I'm not going to mention any names, but two mentioned that big hole in the ground & the nearby federal facility, and the other claimed that homes there would not appreciate in value like the rest of TV because of the "less than desireable " neighborhoods that you have to pass by in order to get there. We listened to NONE of them (nor any of the bashers on here) & plan on buying in McClure, Monarch Grove or Marsh Bend sometime this summer. Can't wait to live down there.
This is the impression hubby and I got when we first drove on 468 down south the see Fenney. We had a very bad feeling about it. We were told by one of The Villages sales people all those undesirable "homes" were going to be knocked down. So far, that has not been done. Those areas look very seedy to us and we do not want to have to pass them when driving to our oasis neighborhood and dream home.

This is not bashing....this is truly how we feel. Anyone who is not bothered by those seedy areas are very welcome to enjoy Southern Oaks and all its absolute serenity and beauty. Just keep in mind what is around your bubble down there.

[Bogie Shooter]

This is the impression hubby and I got when we first drove on 468 down south the see Fenney. We had a very bad feeling about it. We were told by one of The Villages sales people all those undesirable "homes" were going to be knocked down. So far, that has not been done. Those areas look very seedy to us and we do not want to have to pass them when driving to our oasis neighborhood and dream home.

This is not bashing....this is truly how we feel. Anyone who is not bothered by those seedy areas are very welcome to enjoy Southern Oaks and all its absolute serenity and beauty. Just keep in mind what is around your bubble down there.
Really??? So, why was it needed to be said?

[Bogie Shooter]

You are correct, as long as your "anywhere" includes a dangerous MMP, a neighborhood street with cars coming up behind you, or a sidewalk where the golf carts whiz by a foot away from you.

The walking trails in Southern Oaks are MUCH nicer.

If cars are coming up behind you, you are walking with traffic.
Wasn't it taught in the first grade to "always walk facing traffic"? For obvious reasons......

[VApeople]

If cars are coming up behind you, you are walking with traffic.


Maybe that is true in the wide streets of your neighborhood, but not in Osceola Hills.

In our neighborhood, the streets are narrow and there are cars parked on them and there are always trucks parked for the workers. As a result, people often drive on the wrong side of the street.

We prefer to walk side-by-side on paths where there are no motorized vehicles. At least we know where to go.

[photo1902]

This thread has once again devolved into hyperbole and unsubstantiated rumors bashing the areas south of 44. Hopefully the thread will be closed.

[ColdNoMore]

This is the impression hubby and I got when we first drove on 468 down south the see Fenney. We had a very bad feeling about it. We were told by one of The Villages sales people all those undesirable "homes" were going to be knocked down. So far, that has not been done. Those areas look very seedy to us and we do not want to have to pass them when driving to our oasis neighborhood and dream home.

This is not bashing....this is truly how we feel.

Anyone who is not bothered by those seedy areas are very welcome to enjoy Southern Oaks and all its absolute serenity and beauty. Just keep in mind what is around your bubble down there.


Same exact thoughts here. :thumbup:

More power to those who love it there and feel they've found their 'piece of paradise'...it's just not for me.

It just goes to show..."Different strokes...for different folks." :ho:

[ColdNoMore]

I walk my neighborhood, go around Palmer Country Club. Great walk. Really love being close to Sumter Landing. Convenient to SS and Brownwood. Middle of golf, shopping restaurants and I don't need a car.

Yep...my thoughts too. :thumbup:

[vintageogauge]

This is the impression hubby and I got when we first drove on 468 down south the see Fenney. We had a very bad feeling about it. We were told by one of The Villages sales people all those undesirable "homes" were going to be knocked down. So far, that has not been done. Those areas look very seedy to us and we do not want to have to pass them when driving to our oasis neighborhood and dream home.

This is not bashing....this is truly how we feel. Anyone who is not bothered by those seedy areas are very welcome to enjoy Southern Oaks and all its absolute serenity and beauty. Just keep in mind what is around your bubble down there.

A lot of those "undesirable" homes have been torn down, a lot of them have been sold but still stand and are vacant, and most of those that are left are zoned commercial and have for sale signs on them. These are the areas where they will eventually build strip malls similar to those all around The Villages. You can't blame these people for holding out to get the most they can out of their properties, it was the same way in Lady Lake and Fruitland Park where there still stand a lot of "undesirable" homes just beyond Drake Road and all around TV. Just because these people cannot afford to live in a fancy house doesn't make them criminals and as a matter of fact most, but not all, of the crimes reported around TV are north of 44 and especially north of 466, very little crime down here so just keep in mind all of the crime that is surrounding "your bubble" up there. I'm not bashing the northern villages, this is just the way I feel.

[fw102807]

A lot of those "undesirable" homes have been torn down, a lot of them have been sold but still stand and are vacant, and most of those that are left are zoned commercial and have for sale signs on them. These are the areas where they will eventually build strip malls similar to those all around The Villages. You can't blame these people for holding out to get the most they can out of their properties, it was the same way in Lady Lake and Fruitland Park where there still stand a lot of "undesirable" homes just beyond Drake Road and all around TV. Just because these people cannot afford to live in a fancy house doesn't make them criminals and as a matter of fact most, but not all, of the crimes reported around TV are north of 44 and especially north of 466, very little crime down here so just keep in mind all of the crime that is surrounding "your bubble" up there. I'm not bashing the northern villages, this is just the way I feel.

:bigbow: Well said!

[JohnN]

Not Fenney. No services and tons of construction for some years to come. It'll be really nice in 2030

[Kerry Azz]

That is totally untrue. OP if you want to know more about Fenney and how the residents feel you can request to join the Village of Fenney Facebook page, there you will see posts from those who actually live in Fenney and enjoy being here, there are also pages for Desoto, and McClure. I have been here two years next week and can assure you there is very minimal negativity in Fenney, everyone is new to the experience and are enjoying meeting and socializing with the other residents. The new amenities provided south of 44 cannot be found in other villages, if you have dogs there are Veranda Designer homes with fully fenced in private yards, more family pools that welcome your children and grandchildren than anywhere else in TV, i can go on and on. There are parties both large and small on a weekly basis, you can be as social or as private as you want to be, there is so much to do down here that you can keep busy all day long. Don't believe what you read from outsiders, many of them have been bashing Fenney since day one but in just two years it has become the the most populated village within The Villages having over 3,600 residents and less than a dozen re-sale homes and only 10 new spec. homes on the market at this time. It's a great place to live and retire. I am not saying this is for everyone but there are a ton of happy campers down here.

Sorry to disagree with you, the comments are from folks I know and have talked with about living in Fenney. As for a private yard for your dog there are many courtyard Villas with 6’ walls on all sides. As for a FB page on Fenney believe what you see not what you read on FB. I’m glad to hear you like it there my quote was pretty much based on facts. Fenney is not a place I or most of the people I know would want to live.

[Bogie Shooter]

A lot of those "undesirable" homes have been torn down, a lot of them have been sold but still stand and are vacant, and most of those that are left are zoned commercial and have for sale signs on them. These are the areas where they will eventually build strip malls similar to those all around The Villages. You can't blame these people for holding out to get the most they can out of their properties, it was the same way in Lady Lake and Fruitland Park where there still stand a lot of "undesirable" homes just beyond Drake Road and all around TV. Just because these people cannot afford to live in a fancy house doesn't make them criminals and as a matter of fact most, but not all, of the crimes reported around TV are north of 44 and especially north of 466, very little crime down here so just keep in mind all of the crime that is surrounding "your bubble" up there. I'm not bashing the northern villages, this is just the way I feel.

I agree. I seem to have seen your last sentence used before. :)

[Kerry Azz]

What's with all the Fenney bashing? I just don't get it. If you read the comments from those who live there, they love it! And they love it for all good reasons. What they have there cannot be found in the "regular" Villages.

If you are out of butter, there's always your next door neighbor! And once you have to get in your car to go to a restaurant, five minutes or five miles is the same thing!

:spoken:
If I had to guess, I’d say Village Realtors are responding and commenting on the negative quotes posted. For the record I’m located in De La Vista exactly 1 mile from Spanish Springs and Sumter Landing. My wife and I enjoy the true village experience and if we need butter it’s only a 5 minute cart ride to a grocery store.

[Bogie Shooter]

If I had to guess, I’d say Village Realtors are responding and commenting on the negative quotes posted. For the record I’m located in De La Vista exactly 1 mile from Spanish Springs and Sumter Landing. My wife and I enjoy the true village experience and if we need butter it’s only a 5 minute cart ride to a grocery store.

:what:

[Kerry Azz]

Cowgirl, they have been bashing Fenney for two years but it still has grown into the most populous of any of The Villages but they just can't give it up. They don't read anything, just make up stuff to put on here and can't even spell Fenney correctly. We have MMT's all around the area that will soon be tied into the old villages, less than 10 minutes from Brownwood that will soon have another large medical facility, they are building a medical complex on Warm Springs just across the turnpike and announced that there will be 4 restaurants in the plaza at 501 and Warm Springs. And you are correct, the comments from those who reside here are all positive.

If your talking the old villages that is over the bridge at Spanish Springs. That would be a nice golf cart ride from Fenney, bring a lunch it’ll be a long ride or stop at one of the 100’s of restaurants we have in the real villages.

[vintageogauge]

Sorry to disagree with you, the comments are from folks I know and have talked with about living in Fenney. As for a private yard for your dog there are many courtyard Villas with 6’ walls on all sides. As for a FB page on Fenney believe what you see not what you read on FB. I’m glad to hear you like it there my quote was pretty much based on facts. Fenney is not a place I or most of the people I know would want to live.

You should talk with folks that actually live in Fenney if you want facts regarding the community. The fenced in area of a court yard villa is much, much smaller than those in designer veranda homes, not a comparison in the least. As far as the Fenney FB group, most of those who write on the page we know personally as we were here from the beginning and through all of the social gatherings it was easy to meet those that want to get involved and what they post is factual. Those are facts not rumors that you hear from folks that only "talked" about living in Fenney. Your quote that most of the people you know would not want to live in Fenney is mute as all but 10 homes have been sold here and I'm sure those will be gone soon. Now you can go on and attempt to discourage potential buyers from settling in other southern villages that are just as great as Fenney.

[graciegirl]

I don't understand the need for some to denigrate new areas in The Villages.

I do believe that being anonymous allows us to hide our agendas sometimes. I also think that some people do not jump to conclusions without facts, they leap and catapult to conclusions. I think it is sometimes jealousy of those who do not live here and sometimes it is because some people enjoy being irritating and like controversy. I remember when we were building our home just off 466 and several said they wouldn't want to live there because of the noise of 466.

I think that people lose sight or forget or don't care that people moving into homes in The Villages are really quite adventurous, moving from far away and beginning their lives in a new land and a new sort of culture. They have left old friendships and familiar ways behind them to start a new and hopeful life in a new place. They are excited and happy to do that. Their home is their castle, for most of us the biggest purchase of our lives, they are eager to be happy and really deserve to be happy.

I do not think that most of the negative comments would be made in polite conversation and are mean spirited.

Again, I would like to point out that I have lived here for more than a decade, I don't know the Morses, although I would love to thank them personally and do not, nor never have sold houses other than our own, once.

[Bucco]

I don't understand the need for some to denigrate new areas in The Villages.

I do believe that being anonymous allows us to hide our agendas sometimes. I also think that some people do not jump to conclusions without facts, they leap and catapult to conclusions. I think it is sometimes jealousy of those who do not live here and sometimes it is because some people enjoy being irritating and like controversy. I remember when we were building our home just off 466 and several said they wouldn't want to live there because of the noise of 466.

I think that people lose sight or forget or don't care that people moving into homes in The Villages are really quite adventurous, moving from far away and beginning their lives in a new land and a new sort of culture. They have left old friendships and familiar ways behind them to start a new and hopeful life in a new place. They are excited and happy to do that. Their home is their castle, for most of us the biggest purchase of our lives, they are eager to be happy and really deserve to be happy.

I do not think that most of the negative comments would be made in polite conversation and are mean spirited.

Again, I would like to point out that I have lived here for more than a decade, I don't know the Morses, although I would love to thank them personally and do not, nor never have sold houses other than our own, once.

Everyone who posts on here, any thread...does NOT have an agenda.

It is called an opinion..

An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive.

Remember, NOT CONCLUSIVE. If an opinion is deemed conclusive, then facts need to be given to substantiate that conclusion.

Bottom line is that if someone does not share your opinion, that does not mean they have an agenda.

Fenney was the subject of much discussion from the very beginning, and as any Village, requires potential residents to decide based on their own judgement. Now, all of those judgements will not fit yours or mine. Going beyond 466 was a matter of discussion over 15 years ago.

[graciegirl]

Sorry to disagree with you, the comments are from folks I know and have talked with about living in Fenney. As for a private yard for your dog there are many courtyard Villas with 6’ walls on all sides. As for a FB page on Fenney believe what you see not what you read on FB. I’m glad to hear you like it there my quote was pretty much based on facts. Fenney is not a place I or most of the people I know would want to live.

Your remarks are addressed to someone who LIVES in Fenney. There are many who LIVE in Fenney who feel just the way he does.

If you have not taken the drive down Morse in the last couple of months you will be astonished by the progress. They are closing the gap. The new areas will soon be contiguous to the rest of us. I am motivated by protecting the feelings of decent nice people. I do not work and I am not looking for anything but just setting the record straight.

[ColdNoMore]

Everyone who posts on here, any thread...does NOT have an agenda.

It is called an opinion..

An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive.

Remember, NOT CONCLUSIVE. If an opinion is deemed conclusive, then facts need to be given to substantiate that conclusion.

Bottom line is that if someone does not share your opinion, that does not mean they have an agenda.

Fenney was the subject of much discussion from the very beginning, and as any Village, requires potential residents to decide based on their own judgement. Now, all of those judgements will not fit yours or mine. Going beyond 466 was a matter of discussion over 15 years ago.

Excellent post. :thumbup:


And yes...that's just my "opinion." :D

[graciegirl]

Excellent post. :thumbup:


And yes...that's just my "opinion." :D

Here is an old thread with people discussing a new area and with people finding things to say that are negative.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/news-new-areas-south-177857/index8.html?highlight=homes+south

[Bogie Shooter]

If your talking the old villages that is over the bridge at Spanish Springs. That would be a nice golf cart ride from Fenney, bring a lunch it’ll be a long ride or stop at one of the 100’s of restaurants we have in the real villages.
These bashing posts are really not funny.....

[Bucco]

Here is an old thread with people discussing a new area and with people finding things to say that are negative.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/news-new-areas-south-177857/index8.html?highlight=homes+south

I am a bit confused. Your link took me to a discussion of flood plains and flooding.

My point, and one which I will try to make clearer...

EVERY OPINION DOES NOT AN AGENDA MAKE.

Everyone who disagrees with you does not necessarily have an agenda....they have a different opinion.

I am not sure why the making of a "soap opera" every time someone disagrees.....exchange of OPINIONS is supposed to be welcome and frankly if I disagree with an OPINION, it is disheartening to have it termed having an "agenda" or bashing. YES, many make their opinions known in an accusatory manner......a bit aggressively but that does not an "agenda" make.

Speaking of agendas instead of opinions makes for yet another soap opera. Making accusations instead of offering an opinion requires proof, etc.

When The Villages purchased the land south of 466, there was much talk.....this was prior to TOTV....think maybe 2001 or 2002.....about how big this was going to get, and how bad that might be.

Sumter Landing had doubters at the time it was being built.....questions abounded about why......in addition to much excitement about the new square....this was around 2004/2005. People felt it was over done, etc.

EVERY SINGLE item that has happened here has had doubters and all was discussed......do not tell me that nobody disagreed with the growth....just totally not true

BUT IT DID NOT MEAN ANYONE HAD AN AGENDA.....Just different opinions. They also did not have TOTV to expound to others how they felt. Fact is, the birth of the old political forum was a conversation on here about the potential coming of a "horse farm" and betting on 301. Talk host set up a separate thread simply to talk about that and that morphed into a political section. Note....it was not what newer folks have experienced on there

POINT IS......no growth here will be without discussion or pros and cons.......BUT I would not go so far as to accuse others of having an agenda.

[KSSunshine]

Planning on moving to the villages. New builds are in Fenny. What are your thoughts on That area? Seems a bit far from all the other things that are happening in the villages.
We just purchased a home in McClure although we initially thought we'd build in Marsh Bend which is so beautiful and peaceful with the walking trails and trees. However, this house is perfect for us and we've already met neighbors who will be moving in. While homes are important, neighbors and friends are what make your experience. We walk/ride bikes...no golf cart yet, and I'm not missing it. Everyone has something that is important to them, so denigrating someone else's choice is mean spirited especially when you don't have personal experience, only hearsay. So meriboo, visit all of the areas, each has something special; rent a place for a period of time to help yourself figure out what is important to you. Develop your own opinions and don't rely on others. Best wishes with your journey!

[photo1902]

We just purchased a home in McClure although we initially thought we'd build in Marsh Bend which is so beautiful and peaceful with the walking trails and trees. However, this house is perfect for us and we've already met neighbors who will be moving in. While homes are important, neighbors and friends are what make your experience. We walk/ride bikes...no golf cart yet, and I'm not missing it. Everyone has something that is important to them, so denigrating someone else's choice is mean spirited especially when you don't have personal experience, only hearsay. So meriboo, visit all of the areas, each has something special; rent a place for a period of time to help yourself figure out what is important to you. Develop your own opinions and don't rely on others. Best wishes with your journey!

Beautifully said!

[coffeebean]

Why is it that everytime a topic concerning Fenney is posted those of you who do not live here and know nothing about Fenney other than what you read from other bashers stay off the topic and allow those of us who live here to answer the questions. There are only 10 homes left to sell in Fenney until they start building on the 159 acres to the west of here so why not focus your energies on bashing Southern Oaks?

Isn't Fenney part of Southern Oaks?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I can totally understand where Fenny would appeal to a certain group of people, particularly those who don't plan on using their golf carts as primary transportation...to a plethora of golf courses/ shopping/medical appointments/large choice of restaurants/Etc...or who prefer walking/hiking trails over MMP's.

For me though (and different strokes for different folks), I personally still think the 'Heart of The Villages'...will always be about a 4 mile radius around Lake Sumter Landing. :shrug:

I agree, and we bought just northeast of that radius. Hey maybe the Developers could consider expanding north of Schwartz. Then, the hysterical side could become the heart again!
:a040:

[coffeebean]

Really??? So, why was it needed to be said?

Those are my thoughts. Am I not supposed to have the ability to offer my thoughts on a public forum? Isn't this forum for sharing thoughts?

[coffeebean]

This thread has once again devolved into hyperbole and unsubstantiated rumors bashing the areas south of 44. Hopefully the thread will be closed.

Seems to me any statements someone has to offer that people do not agree with becomes "bashing".

[Velvet]

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[coffeebean]

A lot of those "undesirable" homes have been torn down, a lot of them have been sold but still stand and are vacant, and most of those that are left are zoned commercial and have for sale signs on them. These are the areas where they will eventually build strip malls similar to those all around The Villages. You can't blame these people for holding out to get the most they can out of their properties, it was the same way in Lady Lake and Fruitland Park where there still stand a lot of "undesirable" homes just beyond Drake Road and all around TV. Just because these people cannot afford to live in a fancy house doesn't make them criminals and as a matter of fact most, but not all, of the crimes reported around TV are north of 44 and especially north of 466, very little crime down here so just keep in mind all of the crime that is surrounding "your bubble" up there. I'm not bashing the northern villages, this is just the way I feel.

Thank you for informing me and those reading this thread that some of the homes have been torn down. I'm very happy to hear the seedy areas will become strip malls. That is awesome news for those living in the southern areas.

[New Englander]

Not Fenney. No services and tons of construction for some years to come. It'll be really nice in 2030

Oh come on. :ohdear:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Hubby and I walk in our neighborhood in Mallory Square. It is very quiet in the morning and we feel very safe. We don't walk on the MMP as that does not feel safe to us.

I walked all over my area in Orange Blossom when I was down there in March and had no problem at all. I took the golf cart to find the pool, got lost and wandered aimlessly just to see everything (I like doing that) in the cart. I didn't see a single walker having any trouble at all. There were a couple of people on bicycles I worried about, but that's because OB is an actual HILL and in my mind, 70-somethings on bicycles might find riding uphill to be a challenge. Of course they proved me wrong.

No sidewalks, everyone rides, walks, bikes on the road. And everyone seems to have respect for each others' space.

As for Fenney and the rest of Southern Oaks, it was mostly still vacant and for sale when we did our Lifestyle visit, with many lots not yet built. I'm sure it's lovely now, and I know of at least one agent who works for the Villages and lives there now, and absolutely loves it there.

I think it's all about what you want from your home and your neighborhood. If you want something so new that it's not even finished yet, Southern Oaks is the place to be. You can watch the builds and be witness to its creation with a front-row seat. If you want something totally lived-in, that is in the process of evolution with new slowly replacing the old, OB is where it's happening. If you want to be surrounded by commerce but want your personal space somewhat distanced, I'd say the areas between Spanish Spring and Sumter is choice.

If you absolutely need a golf cart upon movein, I'd rule out Southern Oaks for now, and you can always revisit the idea once they finish the roads.

[vintageogauge]

Isn't Fenney part of Southern Oaks?

No.

[Bogie Shooter]

Isn't that called plagiarism? LOL!

No touché.

[coffeebean]

Then....what exactly is Southern Oaks? Is it a village or an area that incorporates several villages? I thought Fenney was part of Southern Oaks. Now I'm confused more than normal. This isn't good :icon_wink:

[CFrance]

Always reasonable and helpful posts. You are such a good help on this forum.

I am your fan.
Gracie. I keep thinking about your admonition that there is no Pee in Lake Sumter. It took years, but almost no one misspells Sumter now. How 'bout There is an E in Fenney? There must be some catchy jingle I'm not clever enough to come up with.:icon_wink:

[CFrance]

Really??? So, why was it needed to be said?
Exactly.

God forbid we should have to drive through any area not as perfect as our own. Let's circle the wagons.

[coffeebean]

Exactly.

God forbid we should have to drive through any area not as perfect as our own. Let's circle the wagons.

Okaaaaay. So we should just sweep it under the rug and not say anything? Sorry.....I just don't agree with having to squelch what is on our minds. It was a concern when we saw the area. Then to find out about the prison so close. We saw it and it gave me the creeps! Then to find out there is a quarry that is shaking up the neighborhoods when they blast. Yikes!!!

Oops....sorry. I guess I shouldn't have said these things.

[New Englander]

Gracie. I keep thinking about your admonition that there is no Pee in Lake Sumter. It took years, but almost no one misspells Sumter now. How 'bout There is an E in Fenney? There must be some catchy jingle I'm not clever enough to come up with.:icon_wink:

I hate to admit it, but I've peed in lake Sumter.

[Bogie Shooter]

Okaaaaay. So we should just sweep it under the rug and not say anything? Sorry.....I just don't agree with having to squelch what is on our minds. It was a concern when we saw the area. Then to find out about the prison so close. We saw it and it gave me the creeps! Then to find out there is a quarry that is shaking up the neighborhoods when they blast. Yikes!!!

Oops....sorry. I guess I shouldn't have said these things.

But, but what about all the drug users and sex offenders living in your village? I think I read that somewhere...……………..

[CFrance]

I hate to admit it, but I've peed in lake Sumter.
Oh. Well at least you spelled it right.:)

[ColdNoMore]

But, but what about all the drug users and sex offenders living in your village? I think I read that somewhere...……………..

Haven't heard that one before...any proof or link(s)?

Bean simply commented, and gave her 'opinion,' on what she has personally seen (as well as what everyone else can see, even if they have a different opinion on it)...not just making up lies or rumors.

[vintageogauge]

Then....what exactly is Southern Oaks? Is it a village or an area that incorporates several villages? I thought Fenney was part of Southern Oaks. Now I'm confused more than normal. This isn't good :icon_wink:

The Villages (plural) of Fenney is situated west of The Villages (plural) of Southern Oaks and consists of 1,048 acres allowing for 2,504 single family homes, 400 multi family homes and 150,000 SQ Ft of commercial space. No confusion here.

[Number 10 GI]

We closed on our house in McClure this past December. Haven't heard any blasts from the quarry or loud speaker announcements from the prison and have seen no prisoners walking around the neighborhood. Yes it is a bit inconvenient not having a lot of restaurants to choose from but that is why we own a motor vehicle. Eventually those retail businesses will come and build in our area. The wife and I don't eat at the restaurants in the Town Centers, they are too expensive for the quality of food offered. We much prefer the mom and pop independent restaurants. We aren't "shop till you drop" types so the lack of "shopping" in our area is irrelevant to us. We have very quick access to the Turnpike and I75.

As far as the Southern Oaks area not having the true village experience, what is the village experience? For us it is the cleanliness and orderliness of the area that The Villages encompasses. We tell friends all the time that it is like living in a park, the flowers, shrubbery, and palm trees all well kept and maintained. There is no trash on the streets and no "antique" car collections setting on concrete blocks in the neighbors yards. We have great neighbors we enjoy our time with. Where we lived in Tennessee we were less than 10 minutes from a large shopping mall and dozens and dozens of restaurants so it that the Village experience also?

When we made the decision to buy here we were looking at previously owned homes but discovered that these homes offered less at a higher price than the new homes in Southern Oaks. As shopping and nearby restaurants were way down on our list of needs/wants it was a no brainer to buy new. The mail station and swimming pool are about 100 yards away and Warm Springs Ave. is about 1/4 mile. The walking paths in the area are quite scenic with views of the conservation area and the wild life living there. To the original poster, decide on what you want where you will live, visit the area and then make your decision.

[Velvet]

The “previously owned homes offered less at a higher price than the new homes” also sell at a higher price and there are reasons for it. I bought one of those. But what counts is what YOU value and it sounds great that you are happy with your choice and that’s what matters.

[coffeebean]

The Villages (plural) of Fenney is situated west of The Villages (plural) of Southern Oaks and consists of 1,048 acres allowing for 2,504 single family homes, 400 multi family homes and 150,000 SQ Ft of commercial space. No confusion here.

Thanks for the clarification.

What villages make up Fenney and what villages make up Southern Oaks? There isn't delineation like that in the northern villages...... not that I'm aware of.

[coffeebean]

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As far as the Southern Oaks area not having the true village experience, what is the village experience?

When we had our lifestyle visit about ten years ago, we were informed about the many miles of multi modal paths and the system of tunnels and a couple of bridges for golf carts. We were also informed there were over 100 restaurants that were golf cart accessible. We were told there are health care modalities available via golf cart: doctors, physical therapy, radiology, dentists, hospitals, etc, etc......all golf cart accessible.

That is what The Villages lifestyle is all about for us. They had us from the start. We had no chance of not purchasing our first home here. The lifestyle was that important to us.

[Velvet]

On our Lifestyle visit, the most important things to hubby and me were: where to get fresh delicious groceries, how we will get along with the potential neighbors we met at the pool, and for me personally, Barnes and Noble had to be close by. How large the house was, whether it was stucco, did the lanai face North, etc was not very significant.
It was the first visit for my husband and the real test for me was if he was okay with “The Villages concept” I already knew TV from visiting my relatives many times and dreamt for a long time of being here.

[Number 10 GI]

When we had our lifestyle visit about ten years ago, we were informed about the many miles of multi modal paths and the system of tunnels and a couple of bridges for golf carts. We were also informed there were over 100 restaurants that were golf cart accessible. We were told there are health care modalities available via golf cart: doctors, physical therapy, radiology, dentists, hospitals, etc, etc......all golf cart accessible.

That is what The Villages lifestyle is all about for us. They had us from the start. We had no chance of not purchasing our first home here. The lifestyle was that important to us.

Everyone has their interpretation of the "lifestyle". I've explained ours and it is what appealed to us.

[Fraugoofy]

We closed on our house in McClure this past December. Haven't heard any blasts from the quarry or loud speaker announcements from the prison and have seen no prisoners walking around the neighborhood. Yes it is a bit inconvenient not having a lot of restaurants to choose from but that is why we own a motor vehicle. Eventually those retail businesses will come and build in our area. The wife and I don't eat at the restaurants in the Town Centers, they are too expensive for the quality of food offered. We much prefer the mom and pop independent restaurants. We aren't "shop till you drop" types so the lack of "shopping" in our area is irrelevant to us. We have very quick access to the Turnpike and I75.

As far as the Southern Oaks area not having the true village experience, what is the village experience? For us it is the cleanliness and orderliness of the area that The Villages encompasses. We tell friends all the time that it is like living in a park, the flowers, shrubbery, and palm trees all well kept and maintained. There is no trash on the streets and no "antique" car collections setting on concrete blocks in the neighbors yards. We have great neighbors we enjoy our time with. Where we lived in Tennessee we were less than 10 minutes from a large shopping mall and dozens and dozens of restaurants so it that the Village experience also?

When we made the decision to buy here we were looking at previously owned homes but discovered that these homes offered less at a higher price than the new homes in Southern Oaks. As shopping and nearby restaurants were way down on our list of needs/wants it was a no brainer to buy new. The mail station and swimming pool are about 100 yards away and Warm Springs Ave. is about 1/4 mile. The walking paths in the area are quite scenic with views of the conservation area and the wild life living there. To the original poster, decide on what you want where you will live, visit the area and then make your decision.Welcome! Sounds like a perfect fit for you!( And for many). Don't let the curmudgeons get you down!

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[JoMar]

Thanks for the clarification.

What villages make up Fenney and what villages make up Southern Oaks? There isn't delineation like that in the northern villages...... not that I'm aware of.

Fenney is a village in Southern Oaks.

[Midnight Cowgirl]

Everyone who posts on here, any thread...does NOT have an agenda.

It is called an opinion..

An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive.

Remember, NOT CONCLUSIVE. If an opinion is deemed conclusive, then facts need to be given to substantiate that conclusion.

Bottom line is that if someone does not share your opinion, that does not mean they have an agenda.

Fenney was the subject of much discussion from the very beginning, and as any Village, requires potential residents to decide based on their own judgement. Now, all of those judgements will not fit yours or mine. Going beyond 466 was a matter of discussion over 15 years ago.


Bucco, I agree mostly with what you are saying, but I believe there are those who post on TOTV in general and within this Fenney thread, who voice more than an opinion and do have an agenda.

Their agendas are tongue-in-cheek or by innuendo, but they are there and obvious and real. This is my opinion!

Changing the subject back to the Fenney area, one has to admit that the look there is a 180 from the rest of TV. It is more of a country feel and more refreshing and natural. Those who bought there like the more casual setting and the newness of the area and the people. If it's good enough for them and they love it, that's all that matters.

[coffeebean]

On our Lifestyle visit, the most important things to hubby and me were: where to get fresh delicious groceries, how we will get along with the potential neighbors we met at the pool, and for me personally, Barnes and Noble had to be close by. How large the house was, whether it was stucco, did the lanai face North, etc was not very significant.
It was the first visit for my husband and the real test for me was if he was okay with “The Villages concept” I already knew TV from visiting my relatives many times and dreamt for a long time of being here.

We lived in south Florida for 25 years before moving back north then back to central Florida. I knew Publix very well and always appreciated the customer service and fresh food they offered. Getting along with neighbors is always going to be a concern no matter where one lives. But.......the lifestyle The Villages offers is something so unique. Just love it here.

[photo1902]

Fenney is a village in Southern Oaks.

Huh?

[vintageogauge]

Huh?

Double Huh???

[ColdNoMore]

Bucco, I agree mostly with what you are saying, but I believe there are those who post on TOTV in general and within this Fenney thread, who voice more than an opinion and do have an agenda.

Their agendas are tongue-in-cheek or by innuendo, but they are there and obvious and real. This is my opinion!

Changing the subject back to the Fenney area, one has to admit that the look there is a 180 from the rest of TV. It is more of a country feel and more refreshing and natural. Those who bought there like the more casual setting and the newness of the area and the people.

If it's good enough for them and they love it, that's all that matters.

I agree with your basic premise of..."different strokes, for different folks."

But instead of 'agenda's' per se, I think what we're seeing is commentary on the direction of what 'Da Family' has obviously decided to go...for future retirees.

Keep in mind, that The Villages has for decades advertised "free golf for life"...as one of their biggest selling points.

I think a lot of what we're seeing, are comments from those who primarily moved here...for the amazing number of golf choices.

So it's hard for them to understand/comprehend/accept, why someone would choose a location that doesn't have those same easy opportunities for golf...that primarily brought them here.

Because let's face it, most folks at this age...don't easily have their minds/opinions changed. :oops:

You can bet money though, Da Family has done their homework/demographic studies and are betting it will take something besides just golf...to attract future retirees.

So what may come across as an "agenda" to some, I believe is mostly an expression of confusion from longer term residents of why people would move so far away...from what drew them here in the firs place.

Part of their 'confusion' is also tied to the other big thing that so many moved here for, which is the ability to use a golf cart to pretty much do anything (shopping/medical/eating/Etc.)...within a reasonable cart ride away.

And it's obvious (at least to me), by the upgrades and other nice new house features for the price, that Da Family is trying to make it as attractive as possible to encourage folks to move so far away...from what they have heretofore advertised as their primary selling points.

And it's obvious by the successful sales of 'Down South'...the new message/branding is working. :shrug:

Golf nuts will probably still buy north of 44, but many others are finding the amenities/setting of Fenney and other southern locations...more to their liking.

But, this is just my "opinion"...and has nothing to do with an "agenda." :ho: