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Taltarzac725
05-04-2019, 07:08 PM
That was quite an ending to the 2019 Kentucky Derby.

2019 Kentucky Derby winner, results: Country House emerges with victory after Maximum Security disqualified - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/2019-kentucky-derby-winner-results-country-house-emerges-with-victory-after-maximum-security-disqualified/)

ColdNoMore
05-04-2019, 09:25 PM
There's gonna be a huge * in the history books...on this one.

Bay Kid
05-05-2019, 05:59 AM
Such a shame. But it could have a real disaster.

villagetinker
05-05-2019, 08:04 AM
I am a big NASCAR fan, and as I was watching the Derby, I said to my wife that looked like a NASCAR block, I never imagined I was watching a foul and what was going to be a disqualification. Great race, glad there were no injuries.

Jayhawk
05-05-2019, 09:28 AM
Country House won't sniff the win in the Belmont. Unfortunate ending but rules are rules.

ColdNoMore
05-05-2019, 09:32 AM
Country House won't sniff the win in the Belmont. Unfortunate ending but rules are rules.

That's the way I see it. :thumbup:


If it had been any other race, the final decision would have been the same...only made in probably less than 2 minutes. :shrug:

dillywho
05-05-2019, 11:06 AM
Maximum Security most likely would have still won, but Country House probably would not have even placed had the foul not occurred and the others been impeded. Just a thought: Could a more experienced jockey have controlled Maximum Security and avoided the foul?

bagboy
05-05-2019, 12:06 PM
Maximum Security most likely would have still won, but Country House probably would not have even placed had the foul not occurred and the others been impeded. Just a thought: Could a more experienced jockey have controlled Maximum Security and avoided the foul?

Luis Saez has over 12,500 starts as a jockey, and over $100 million dollars in winnings.

bagboy
05-05-2019, 12:12 PM
The horses were running in the slop, sometimes strange things happen. It didn't appear the eventual winner was hindered at all. There is a reason why this hasn't happened in the 130 plus years of the Derby. It's a bad look for racing. And in my humble opinion, had Maximum Security been a Baffert or Lukas trained horse, there would have been zero chance he would have been taken down. No matter, it's done.

CFrance
05-05-2019, 01:45 PM
Maximum Security most likely would have still won, but Country House probably would not have even placed had the foul not occurred and the others been impeded. Just a thought: Could a more experienced jockey have controlled Maximum Security and avoided the foul?
I'm not knowledgeable about Kentucky Derby, but weren't the other horses that were impeded way back in the race? At least one would have come in 17th but instead came in 16th, and the other was 7th or thereabout. Wasn't Country House number 2 at the finish? Seems like a justifiable win in terms of the foul and CH being in second place. But again, I know nothing about horse racing.

Feel free to set me straight. I got all my info from online news.

I'll be rooting for Country House next. I love an underdog. After all, I'm Pittsburgh Pirates fan.:)

JoMar
05-05-2019, 02:16 PM
Some folks lost a lot of money and a few won a lot of money. Unless there are assigned lanes (as in swimming), for me, racing is racing and not sure, with that amount of horses, in a pack, in slop, "infractions" could be avoided. I wonder if they reviewed every horse through out the race to see if infractions occurred farther back.....oh wait, sorry, the money runs out after the top three so who would care

CFrance
05-05-2019, 02:34 PM
Some folks lost a lot of money and a few won a lot of money. Unless there are assigned lanes (as in swimming), for me, racing is racing and not sure, with that amount of horses, in a pack, in slop, "infractions" could be avoided. I wonder if they reviewed every horse through out the race to see if infractions occurred farther back.....oh wait, sorry, the money runs out after the top three so who would care
What I read cited a rule about horses staying in their lanes and the particular circumstances regarding infractions of that. It was the first race in KD history where the winner was disqualified for a foul. The other DQ was when a horse failed a drug test in 1984 and was disqualified as the winner a few days after the race.

It must have been a noticeable foul, since objections are rarely upheld. The judges said it's very difficult to determine fouls in a sloppy wet racetrack, especially on the last dash to the finish, but all three agreed unanimously.

A trainer who was in the stands with his daughter spotted it immediately and surmised there would be objections.

Fascinating to read. I got my information from articles on The Guardian online news, if anyone wants to catch it.

I'm sure you're right about the money part.

Viperguy
05-05-2019, 02:51 PM
Is that where horses run in a circle?