Is parking 15+ golf carts with 4-sale signs on your driveway & lawn permitted?

[EdFNJ]

Saw that today. There was a sign on O'Dell saying "17 gas carts for sale" so I drove by. Really surprised me. LOL, it looked like a used golf cart dealership on someone's lawn & driveway (maybe it was). Most of them said "this cart for rent" on the windshield with a purchase price tag. It certainly wasn't a "garage sale". I took a video of it driving by so I could be sure of what I was seeing.

If that is OK can I get about 15 "starving artists" from around here and have an art show & sale on my lawn?

Here is video. You have to slow and/or pause it to see the signs and note the regular car with "best cart rentals" sign on it's side. I guess it's possible they asked for and got permission for this but it sure seemed strange for The Villages with all thier griping about small animals figurines on a lawn.

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[Two Bills]

Actually there was a big poker school there the night before, and the house owner had a run of luck that was phenominal.
He cleaned out all the other players, even won their golf carts off them.
He was just cashing them in the following morning! :icon_wink:

[Bay Kid]

Actually there was a big poker school there the night before, and the house owner had a run of luck that was phenominal.
He cleaned out all the other players, even won their golf carts off them.
He was just cashing them in the following morning! :icon_wink:

I bet there will be some real bargains there.

[Love2Swim]

If the neighbors are unhappy, they can voice their complaints. Otherwise, why worry about it?

[My Daily Run]

yikes...if that is allowed I'm going to put up a portable tent and set up a small store on my front lawn..maybe sell some junk that is in my garage...

[anothersteve]

Maybe this would fly in the Historical Side, but not on our side!


:a040: (Just kidding) :a040:
Steve

[ColdNoMore]

Well, at least they didn't have a pink flamingo...in the front yard. :1rotfl:

It's hard to imagine that they got 'official' permission...to do that. :oops:


Similarly, on the way to play Orange Blossom recently, I saw a place with about a dozen carts in the driveway/under the carport (and a couple of guys walking around them), but didn't notice any 'For Sale' signs and they were all facing away from the road...so I assumed it was someone with a cart repair business?

But maybe, on that side of the bridge...the deed restrictions allow that kind of stuff? :confused:

[Mortal1]

If the neighbors are unhappy, they can voice their complaints. Otherwise, why worry about it?

it looks like crap. I suppose if one wanted to live next to a dealership they wouldn't have moved here now would they?

[Mortal1]

NO it is now allowed. Call/email the Villages Community Development District with the address number (and a photo if you can). They will send someone down that day and will inform the homeowners that not only is it not allowed for how it looks, but also you are not allowed to run a business like this from your home in the villages.

[thetruth]

Don't tell anyone that I looked at the video.

From how it looks it has not been there long as the grass under the golf carts looks good and is neatly mowed.

[champion6]

Mortal1 is correct ... it is NOT ALLOWED. The correct department to call is Community Standards, 352-751-3912, M-F 8-5.

Do not email. Your email message then become a public record.

But ... if the carts are not there on Monday (tomorrow), don't call. The violation must be seen and verified by the Community Standards employee who is sent to investigate.

[JoelJohnson]

Funny, there's a guy on Lester (on the historic side) that always has golf carts for sale in his driveway.

[dewilson58]

Wow.


Wonder what they are thinking??


Neighbors will be calling.

[EdFNJ]

According to the sign on the corner of was a 2 day sale only. Gone today.


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[EdFNJ]

If the neighbors are unhappy, they can voice their complaints. Otherwise, why worry about it?



Why do you assume I was 'worrying?'. It wasn't anywhere in my area. Just found it interesting and made that area look like downtown Brooklyn and not The Villages. Today 15 golf carts tomorrow 15 2012 Hyundais or Kias. In any case it looked pretty stupid for a residential area anywhere not just in T.V.


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[photo1902]

Why do you assume I was 'worrying?'. It wasn't anywhere in my area. Just found it interesting and made that area look like downtown Brooklyn and not The Villages. Today 15 golf carts tomorrow 15 2012 Hyundais or Kias. In any case it looked pretty stupid for a residential area anywhere not just in T.V.


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You drove by, took the time to not only capture it on video, but then proceeded to post it on TOTV and comment on it. Yes, I’d say that would be defined as worrying.

[ColdNoMore]

Why do you assume I was 'worrying?'. It wasn't anywhere in my area. Just found it interesting and made that area look like downtown Brooklyn and not The Villages. Today 15 golf carts tomorrow 15 2012 Hyundais or Kias. In any case it looked pretty stupid for a residential area anywhere not just in T.V.


:agree:



According to the sign on the corner of was a 2 day sale only. Gone today.
Maybe it was just a 2 day... 'garage sale.'

Did you notice today, if the garage had been sold...or was it still attached to the house? :1rotfl:

[dewilson58]

Edward.................Thanks for sharing.


I took it as entertainment, not worrying.


:coolsmiley:

[ColdNoMore]

Edward.................Thanks for sharing.

I took it as entertainment, not worrying.

:coolsmiley:


Same here. :thumbup:

[EdFNJ]

Maybe it was just a 2 day... 'garage sale.'

Did you notice today, if the garage had been sold...or was it still attached to the house? :1rotfl:


That was one hellava garage! Wasn't on my route home today so I assume it's still attached! :D

[CFrance]

If the neighbors are unhappy, they can voice their complaints. Otherwise, why worry about it?
Because it just looks tacky, and The Villages aren't supposed to be tacky. I think home values would be affected if things like this started all over TV.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Because it just looks tacky, and The Villages aren't supposed to be tacky. I think home values would be affected if things like this started all over TV.

I believe the city of Austin, Texas, would have to disagree with you.

[Velvet]

Which reminds me, are there any real flamingos in TV?

[CFrance]

I believe the city of Austin, Texas, would have to disagree with you.
I don't really care about Austin, Texas. I don't have a house there whose value I want to keep up. TV was designed to maintain a standard. Having a yard sale with carts all over the property doesn't fit into that standard, IMO.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I don't really care about Austin, Texas. I don't have a house there whose value I want to keep up. TV was designed to maintain a standard. Having a yard sale with carts all over the property doesn't fit into that standard, IMO.

"Having a yard sale is with carts all over the property" not the only thing that fits into the "tacky" category. You equated "tacky" with lower home values. I'm saying - you would be incorrect.

What some people consider "tacky" other people consider art. And further, others would consider "we're having a dinner party at our house and 12 out of the 19 guests came here with their own golf carts so they're lined up on our front yard for the evening."

Again - just because you don't like something, doesn't make it tacky. It just means you don't like it. You're allowed to not like it. And absolutely, selling many golf carts off your front yard would, and rightly should, be considered having a home business, which is against the rules. But it doesn't make it "tacky" and "tacky" doesn't mean what you think it means.

[ColdNoMore]

"Having a yard sale is with carts all over the property" not the only thing that fits into the "tacky" category. You equated "tacky" with lower home values. I'm saying - you would be incorrect.

What some people consider "tacky" other people consider art. And further, others would consider "we're having a dinner party at our house and 12 out of the 19 guests came here with their own golf carts so they're lined up on our front yard for the evening."

Again - just because you don't like something, doesn't make it tacky. It just means you don't like it. You're allowed to not like it. And absolutely, selling many golf carts off your front yard would, and rightly should, be considered having a home business, which is against the rules. But it doesn't make it "tacky" and "tacky" doesn't mean what you think it means.

As a friendly reminder Jaz, the OP said..."Most of them said "this cart for rent" on the windshield with a purchase price tag."

I think most people would agree that's not a "dinner party"...and is "tacky." :shrug:

[CFrance]

"Having a yard sale is with carts all over the property" not the only thing that fits into the "tacky" category. You equated "tacky" with lower home values. I'm saying - you would be incorrect.

What some people consider "tacky" other people consider art. And further, others would consider "we're having a dinner party at our house and 12 out of the 19 guests came here with their own golf carts so they're lined up on our front yard for the evening."

Again - just because you don't like something, doesn't make it tacky. It just means you don't like it. You're allowed to not like it. And absolutely, selling many golf carts off your front yard would, and rightly should, be considered having a home business, which is against the rules. But it doesn't make it "tacky" and "tacky" doesn't mean what you think it means.
Yeah, but just because "we're having a dinner party at our house and 12 out of 19 guests came here with their own golf carts so they're lined up on our front yard for the evening" doesn't equate to a yard sale of used vehicles with signs posted. Plus, they wouldn't be parked on the yard, they'd be on the streets.

I think I know what tacky means.

Even garage sales in The Villages are limited to just that--your garage. Nothing is supposed to be in the driveway or anyplace other than the garage.

TV has its own definition of tacky, and the restrictions we sign up for are preventative. Although I don't know what the restrictions are in your area, I believe this area was south of your area.

If there's stuff like this all over the place in people's yards all the time, it is going to lower the home values. What I'm saying is that if one person gets away with it, it encourages others, and pretty soon things could get out of hand. I signed the restrictions; I'm sticking with them. I want my neighborhood and TV to be free of the ugly stuff.

[villages07]

I Saw an ad for this golf cart sale...either in the Sun or Next Door. I believe that household runs a golf cart rental business and they were either shutting it down or reducing inventory. Still, I don’t think either the business or this type of “garage” sale is within the covenants and rules. Should be all gone by now.


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[EdFNJ]

I Saw an ad for this golf cart sale...either in the Sun or Next Door. I believe that household runs a golf cart rental business and they were either shutting it down or reducing inventory.

I think I saw that ad. It read:
Post snowbird season old inventory golf cart reduction front lawn sale. Just happens once a year so we can make room in our garage for the new models. Mention coupon code "THE DEV" and get an additional 10% off.

:D

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

As a friendly reminder Jaz, the OP said..."Most of them said "this cart for rent" on the windshield with a purchase price tag."

I think most people would agree that's not a "dinner party"...and is "tacky." :shrug:

Absolutely agreed. The last sentence of my post corroborated my agreement. But the statement made was referring to a matter of taste, not a matter of rules. Yard sales aren't "tacky." In addition, what some might call tacky, others might call art. It was a statement painted with a ridiculously broad brushstoke I took issue with.

[Number 10 GI]

We didn't buy in The Villages to have the neighbor from Hell living next door like we did in Tennessee. Our old neighborhood was a good area until a local realtor bought the house next door to us. The renter that lived there before current one let his grass grow to knee height and cars came and went all night. We suspected he was running a "business" there also and after a couple visits by the sheriff's department we figured our thoughts were correct. Luckily the property management company kicked that family out and the current renter maintains the property very well. Do you really think a prospective buyer would have believed that it wasn't a problem having a jungle next door to the house they were looking at? Do you really think we would have gotten a full price offer? If I was looking at a home to purchase in that village and saw that collection of carts, I would have told the realtor to just forget that area and go to the next one. If that was your house that lost a potential sale, would you still think that it wasn't a problem?

[karostay]

No worse than some that have a so called garage sale every other week

[manaboutown]

I can't believe this disgrace wasn't nipped in the bud by the appropriate authorities.

[CFrance]

We didn't buy in The Villages to have the neighbor from Hell living next door like we did in Tennessee. Our old neighborhood was a good area until a local realtor bought the house next door to us. The renter that lived there before current one let his grass grow to knee height and cars came and went all night. We suspected he was running a "business" there also and after a couple visits by the sheriff's department we figured our thoughts were correct. Luckily the property management company kicked that family out and the current renter maintains the property very well. Do you really think a prospective buyer would have believed that it wasn't a problem having a jungle next door to the house they were looking at? Do you really think we would have gotten a full price offer? If I was looking at a home to purchase in that village and saw that collection of carts, I would have told the realtor to just forget that area and go to the next one. If that was your house that lost a potential sale, would you still think that it wasn't a problem?
That is the point I was trying to make, only you said it a lot better, Number 10 GI.

[Barboza]

You cannot run a business from your home, you should notify the powers that be.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I can't believe this disgrace wasn't nipped in the bud by the appropriate authorities.

It sounds like it was over before anyone had the chance to stop it. It was a 2-day event that occurs once a year, supposedly.

[Vladimir]

Yeah, but just because "we're having a dinner party at our house and 12 out of 19 guests came here with their own golf carts so they're lined up on our front yard for the evening" doesn't equate to a yard sale of used vehicles with signs posted. Plus, they wouldn't be parked on the yard, they'd be on the streets.

I think I know what tacky means.

Even garage sales in The Villages are limited to just that--your garage. Nothing is supposed to be in the driveway or anyplace other than the garage.

TV has its own definition of tacky, and the restrictions we sign up for are preventative. Although I don't know what the restrictions are in your area, I believe this area was south of your area.

If there's stuff like this all over the place in people's yards all the time, it is going to lower the home values. What I'm saying is that if one person gets away with it, it encourages others, and pretty soon things could get out of hand. I signed the restrictions; I'm sticking with them. I want my neighborhood and TV to be free of the ugly stuff.

I agree with your sentiments exactly.
There are a number of homeowners (whose rear houses face major streets like Pinellas and Hillsborough) that put their carts for sale on their back lawns. Community Standards is lax in enforcing this deed restriction. These homeowners also exhibit their carts on the weekends since they know the inspectors do not work on weekends and therefore cannot catch them...it starts as a trickle...

[EdFNJ]

It sounds like it was over before anyone had the chance to stop it. It was a 2-day event that occurs once a year, supposedly.


It's back ... Part Duex. Looks like once a month. Last month there were 17 carts for sale on the lawn, I think the lawn sign on the corner of O'Dell says today (and tomorrow) 10 carts for sale. Guess he sold 7 last month. Waiting for one of those long wind machine driven waving signs to appear over the surrounding homes. :D

[dewilson58]

It's back ... Part Duex. Looks like once a month. Last month there were 17 carts for sale on the lawn, I think the lawn sign on the corner of O'Dell says today (and tomorrow) 10 carts for sale. Guess he sold 7 last month. Waiting for one of those long wind machine driven waving signs to appear over the surrounding homes. :D




Oh man.


Not good.

[Marathon Man]

It's back ... Part Duex. Looks like once a month. Last month there were 17 carts for sale on the lawn, I think the lawn sign on the corner of O'Dell says today (and tomorrow) 10 carts for sale. Guess he sold 7 last month. Waiting for one of those long wind machine driven waving signs to appear over the surrounding homes. :D

Well, I guess my question is - Are you calling authorities about this?

[CFrance]

Well, I guess my question is - Are you calling authorities about this?
Somebody should. This is more serious than a "ride around in my golf cart with a clipboard and write down flamingos in the front yard" issue.

[New Englander]

Take a picture and show it to management. It's just not right for him to subject the neighborhood to that.

[Bogie Shooter]

It sounds like it was over before anyone had the chance to stop it. It was a 2-day event that occurs once a year, supposedly.

Where did this info come from?

[Bogie Shooter]

I agree with your sentiments exactly.
There are a number of homeowners (whose rear houses face major streets like Pinellas and Hillsborough) that put their carts for sale on their back lawns. Community Standards is lax in enforcing this deed restriction. These homeowners also exhibit their carts on the weekends since they know the inspectors do not work on weekends and therefore cannot catch them...it starts as a trickle...

This is all so wrong...…………...

[Bogie Shooter]

Take a picture and show it to management. It's just not right for him to subject the neighborhood to that.

That's not how it works.

[EdFNJ]

Well, I guess my question is - Are you calling authorities about this?



Nope since it’s NIMBY.


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[Bogie Shooter]

Concerns about possible deed restriction violations may be provided to the Community Standards Deed Compliance Division by phone, fax, mail, electronic mail, or in person and may be made anonymously. The Community Standards Deed Compliance Division is entirely complaint driven.

More information can be found here.
Suggest some read before posting wrong information.
VCDD Deed Compliance - Lake County (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/deedrestrict.aspx)

[JSR22]

What Village?

[karostay]

Think I'll sell used portable toilets on my front yard...

Sign will say Stinking Good Deals today:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[EdFNJ]

What Village? Mallory? It's on Mt Croghan Trail. If you leave Mallory Country Club and take a left on O'Dell it the first right turn.

[EdFNJ]

Think I'll sell used portable toilets on my front yard...

Sign will say Stinking Good Deals today:1rotfl::1rotfl: You could say you are selling Poo-pourri. Poo-Pourri, Before You Go Toilet Spray – Poo~Pourri DTC (https://www.poopourri.com/) BTW, they have the greatest website and their advertising videos (search YouTube) are probably the most original and funniest around.

[JSR22]

Fairly close to where I live. We had a similar problem in Bonita. Neighbors spoke to him and it has stopped.

[champion6]

It's back ... Part Duex. Looks like once a month. Last month there were 17 carts for sale on the lawn, I think the lawn sign on the corner of O'Dell says today (and tomorrow) 10 carts for sale. Guess he sold 7 last month. Waiting for one of those long wind machine driven waving signs to appear over the surrounding homes. :DYou posted this Wednesday afternoon. I hope you called Community Standards before posting here. Give CS a chance to stop this from occurring again.

[EdFNJ]

You posted this Wednesday afternoon. I hope you called Community Standards before posting here. Give CS a chance to stop this from occurring again. Nope. First reason is it's nowhere near me and if his neighbors accept it, that's their problem. Not going to do their work for them. And second, I did that once before with something local to me. I called them and they told me it takes 5-14 days to follow up. It's only for 2 days so let his neighbors deal with it. Obviously they (his neighbors) don't care.

[EdFNJ]

Best Cart Rental - Golf Cart Rentals - 1705 Mt Croghan Trl, The Villages, FL - Phone Number - Yelp (https://www.yelp.com/biz/best-cart-rental-the-villages)
Obviously, by the address, this is the guy. So he runs a rental out of his home? Where the heck does he keep the carts normally? That was the sign posted on the car parked in the driveway last month when I originally drove by.

[Velvet]

I looked at the initial video. What is this person thinking? This is a residential area.

[Marathon Man]

Nope. First reason is it's nowhere near me and if his neighbors accept it, that's their problem. Not going to do their work for them. And second, I did that once before with something local to me. I called them and they told me it takes 5-14 days to follow up. It's only for 2 days so let his neighbors deal with it. Obviously they (his neighbors) don't care.

OK. So, why so many posts on here about it?

[New Englander]

I looked at the initial video. What is this person thinking? This is a residential area.

The person doesn't give a damn about neighbors.

[EdFNJ]

OK. So, why so many posts on here about it? Why so many posts about a golf cart going 22mph or carts passing or people with too much cactii in their back yard or dogs pooping on their neighbors lawn or stinky perfume or someone who hasn't mowed their lawn or cable alternatives and on and on ...... that's what this forum is about. It's "TALK" of the Villages. Just something to B.S. about. :D Easy enough to ignore a boring or useless thread and there are lots of those (including this if it doesn't interest you). ;)

[skip0358]

Everything is legal until someone complains and you get caught. Period. Violations of the rules are complaint driven. Second part before you complain make sure all your ducks are in a row!

[ColdNoMore]

Think I'll sell used portable toilets on my front yard...

Sign will say Stinking Good Deals today:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Add a couple of large fans, some extension cords, then watch the....


:D

[PennBF]

I really like the example Judge Judy uses. If you drop a bad apple in a barrel the other apples don't get better but rather the other apples start to go bad. If a person is able to hurt a community because of an act it does not make the community better. It makes the community get worse. Net: Is to catch it in the bud. The rules of The Villages are created to keep the Villages at their best and to stop "bad apples" from spreading the problems. Given the policy and practices of The Villagess this works and sometimes takes a few more days than would be optimum. :ho:

[Velvet]

Any updates on what has happened? Has this person with the carts been reported? If they do not have a commercial license for the property there has to be a fine.

[EdFNJ]

I really like the example Judge Judy uses. If you drop a bad apple in a barrel the other apples don't get better but rather the other apples start to go bad. If a person is able to hurt a community because of an act it does not make the community better. It makes the community get worse. Net: Is to catch it in the bud. The rules of The Villages are created to keep the Villages at their best and to stop "bad apples" from spreading the problems. Given the policy and practices of The Villagess this works and sometimes takes a few more days than would be optimum. :ho:

Problem is, by the time they "getaroundtuit" the violation is gone. Like last month this month's "sale" only lasts 2 days. Still there today but if reported it would take a week or 2 before they payed a visit.

[EdFNJ]

Any updates on what has happened? Has this person with the carts been reported? If they do not have a commercial license for the property there has to be a fine. Sign was still there for today's 2nd day of the 2 day "sale."

[Velvet]

Hmmm. Please keep reporting here. If I’m going to follow all the rules, the neighbors should too. Need to check specifically what they are allowed to do first.
Here I am paying almost $2000 to keep my property looking nice for my neighbors who are there, when I am not even there yet myself.

[BobnBev]

I wonder if they are collecting state tax on each sale, and if they are turning the tax $$$$$ over to the tax people.:popcorn:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I'm sure that that is not allowed. Unless that have a variance, it would violate zoning laws.

That does not look like O'Dell Circle by the way.

[bilcon]

Hay! Sounds great. I live on a golf course, so I think I will build me a snack shack in my back yard and sell hot dogs and beer to the golfers. Ya think that will be a problem? OMG, 15 carts for sale on the front lawn. What next?

[John_W]

I would call Villages Golf Cars at Colony and ask if they'll match the price of the golf cart dealer on O'Dell.

I would go to this Sumter County Code Complaint website and list them as a roadside vendor in a residential neighborhood. They wouldn't be able to investigate in time, but upload a photo of the current situation and they probably would stop them from any future operations.

Submit a Code Complaint | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/175/Submit-a-Code-Complaint)

Call TV Deed Compliance office and report the violation and send an email with attached photo to
deedcompliance@districtgov.org

[EdFNJ]

I'm sure that that is not allowed. Unless that have a variance, it would violate zoning laws.

That does not look like O'Dell Circle by the way.


As noted in the OP, THE SIGN pointing to the dealership, I mean the sale, I mean the house, was on O'Dell (at Mt Croghan Trail), not the sale itself. The actual address is listed in post #55 in this thread.

[Mama C]

You are not supposed to run a business where public comes and goes
I would not think this is allowed.....

[Marathon Man]

Hmmm. Good thing no one accidently knocked the sign over. Then no one would know about the sale.

[EdFNJ]

Hmmm. Good thing no one accidently knocked the sign over. Then no one would know about the sale.
Someone wrote that the first one, 4 weeks ago, was advertised in the Happy News. Not sure on part Deux.