Golf carts Passing

[Chatbrat]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.

[JimJohnson]

Some people have a hard time retiring. Passing someone is just a macho display of their shortcomings. Just smile and find joy in the fact that you are more mature than hot rod Henry or Henrietta.

[missypie]

Doesn't bother me a bit. Perhaps they are in a hurry to use the facilities.

[graciegirl]

Sometimes people go around. Sometimes it is some kind of one upmanship and sometimes maybe they have to pee. I am not the slowest and I am not the fastest. Well sometimes I am. I am always early, I always plan to be a little early, because that is being a good person.

Don't ask.

[Bay Kid]

With all the beauty in TVs I cruise and enjoy the views.

[anothersteve]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph
Yes.
On another note, If someone is going 10mph, I will pass them if it is legal and safe to do so.
Steve

[photo1902]

It’s just like driving a car. You pass slowpokes

[dewilson58]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.




Maybe, maybe not.........................not enough information to convict.

[anothersteve]

Maybe, maybe not.........................not enough information to convict.

I can agree with that. The lead cart could be doing 10
Steve

[Jim 9922]

To me, being passed by a faster golf cart is about as traumatic as being passed by a faster car on the interstate or SR 466. From what I read, it seems that cart accidents are usually the result of impaired drivers, careless driving (hitting curbs, trees, etc.), failure to heed stop signs, and inappropriate turn actions.

[JoelJohnson]

It could them over $800 in fines, plus it could cost upto $500 to have their carts set back to 19.5MPH, not to mention court costs. Don't think it happens? Ask around, you'd be surprised.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Once you're passing someone on a golf cart lane that's part of a road (like Morse up north), you're in the regular vehicular traffic lane. So as long as you're not going over the posted speed limit for vehicular traffic there, AND you're not holding up vehicular traffic to do so, I guess it'd be okay to pass a few golf carts.

But if you're on a golf cart path or MMP, you're not allowed to go faster than 19.x mph (whatever that number is). My suggestion to all the slower drivers: if you are going under 17mph and see someone coming up behind you that looks like they'd really like to just not be behind you - slow down a little more, pull to the right if possible, and LET them pass you. Consider - you're clearly not in a rush anyway, so it won't kill you to just slow down another MPH.

When I was using a rental golf cart I ran into this often. My cart couldn't go more than 17. It was set that way, and was annoying because it was very obvious to me that every cart behind me, could go faster, and would if I was just out of their way. So I would always pull over a little as soon as I was in a spot where it was possible, and slow down, and signal to the people behind me to pass.

[dewilson58]

Once you're passing someone on a golf cart lane that's part of a road (like Morse up north), you're in the regular vehicular traffic lane. So as long as you're not going over the posted speed limit for vehicular traffic there, AND you're not holding up vehicular traffic to do so, I guess it'd be okay to pass a few golf carts.






WRONG!!!!!




:ohdear:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Hm true - registered vehicles only on those roads. However there are roads where there are no designated golf cart lanes, where golf carts are allowed to be. Such as the roads within the neighborhoods themselves where cars can pass golf carts, no? 20mph or 25mph speed limit means a vehicle is allowed to go that fast. If a golf cart is only going 16mph, and another golf cart wants to go 19mph, and there is no designated golf cart path, then it stands to reason that the faster golf cart should be allowed to pass the slower one.

Having never driving through every single neighborhood in every single village of the villages, I don't know if there are different speed limits for different villages. I know I have seen a 10mph sign in one villa neighborhood.

[dewilson58]

Once you're passing someone on a golf cart lane that's part of a road (like Morse up north), you're in the regular vehicular traffic lane. So as long as you're not going over the posted speed limit for vehicular traffic there, AND you're not holding up vehicular traffic to do so, I guess it'd be okay to pass a few golf carts.







It doesn't matter where the golf cart is ruuning.......19.9 is the max speed to be legal. Doesn't matter if you are on a public road or on private property (MMS) or on the moon.......19.9 is max.

[Bill32]

Could it have been a street legal cart?

[UpNorth]

The most annoying thing for me is when my speedometer shows I'm going 20 mph, and somebody who can go 21 mph gets on my tail and slowly passes me over the next 2 minutes.

[Dan9871]

? 20mph or 25mph speed limit means a vehicle is allowed to go that fast.

If your cart is even just capable of going over 19.9 on level ground it is illegal unless it is registered as a street legal cart which means it has to be registered much a car is. Even then there is max speed it is not allowed to go over and streets it cannot go on.

If your are in an accident with a cart one of the things that will be checked is the governor on engine. If it's been tampered with then bingo you are driving an unregistered auto with a big fine and other problems.

I've known a couple of people who disabled the governor on their carts but once they finally understood the liability the had they went and had the governor fixed.

[dewilson58]

The most annoying thing for me is when my speedometer shows I'm going 20 mph, and somebody who can go 21 mph gets on my tail and slowly passes me over the next 2 minutes.






Yep, seen it. And the other cart starts to fade a little and lose ground, but the other driver stays with it.

[pbkmaine]

Or, if you are being tailgated, you can pull over onto the grass and let them pass. I do this because I find it less nerve-wracking than someone breathing down my neck.

[Nucky]

If your Cart has the potential of doing 40MPH but you never exceed the speed limit of 19.9 or 20 MPH and your involved in an accident who is to say you were exceeding the legal limit? Exactly who is it that has ever gotten a Speeding Ticket? Not a story of your Hairdressers Cousin. Actually who? Where is the Court Record of the ticket being issued?

If someone is tailgating just let them go by, easy peasy. I would say that one of the most important things is keeping your passenger alert to what's going on so they can properly brace themselves when turning or in an emergency stopping situation. Keeping your tire pressure to proper standards is important to. These cart are not to stable over 20MPH, about as stable as Jello!

There is no way the foolishness is ever going to stop, the key is keeping yourself safe.

At the base of the Historic Side Bridge, they just installed another Camera. It is across from the one installed last year that was closer to the pond. It is definitely a Camera. What's up With That? Guesses?

[birdiebill]

If your cart has the governor set so that it can exceed 20 mph, it is no longer considered a golf cart in the state of Florida. If it is set so that it can exceed 20 mph, whether you drive it faster than 20 is immaterial based on Florida law. Over 20, it is considered an LSV (low speed vehicle) and, by Florida law, is to be registered with the state, licensed, and must carry liability insurance. Since the law is not enforced locally by law enforcement, many people ignore it.

I do not care if I am passed by a faster moving golf cart; our two carts have not been adjusted to exceed 20. My wife and I are frequently passed by faster carts. But as I am passed by a cart exceeding 20 mph, a cart without a legal Florida license, I just wonder why the owner has chosen to be a law breaking citizen.

[TimeForChange]

FL law requires that a golf cart operated on a public street should not impede the flow of regular auto traffic. (In other words stay in the golf cart lane) If you pull out into the auto lane on a public street in a golf cart to pass another cart and slow the flow of traffic by autos you can be ticketed. This is not the case on the trails in TV but on the streets. If I pass another cart on a street and leave the golf cart lane it is very seldom. I never exceed 20 miles per hour on any public street. The total fine and court cost is close to $500. If a policeman or deputy is around you can be ticketed.

[Nucky]

My Cart is legal. We cranked it up, it's easy just to see what all the buzz is about, The Need For Speed! I think we got it all the way up to 35MPH and instantly decided you should have your head examined to want or need to go faster. Many people do it successfully for years with no problemo but who knows what the future holds. As long as they don't upset my trip let them pass me all day. My Rat Race is over. I'm with whatever is Legal. I leave 5 minutes early for my trip.

[rhood]

once you're passing someone on a golf cart lane that's part of a road (like morse up north), you're in the regular vehicular traffic lane. So as long as you're not going over the posted speed limit for vehicular traffic there, and you're not holding up vehicular traffic to do so, i guess it'd be okay to pass a few golf carts.

But if you're on a golf cart path or mmp, you're not allowed to go faster than 19.x mph (whatever that number is). My suggestion to all the slower drivers: If you are going under 17mph and see someone coming up behind you that looks like they'd really like to just not be behind you - slow down a little more, pull to the right if possible, and let them pass you. Consider - you're clearly not in a rush anyway, so it won't kill you to just slow down another mph.

When i was using a rental golf cart i ran into this often. My cart couldn't go more than 17. It was set that way, and was annoying because it was very obvious to me that every cart behind me, could go faster, and would if i was just out of their way. So i would always pull over a little as soon as i was in a spot where it was possible, and slow down, and signal to the people behind me to pass.

wrong

[rhood]

It doesn't matter where the golf cart is ruuning.......19.9 is the max speed to be legal. Doesn't matter if you are on a public road or on private property (MMS) or on the moon.......19.9 is max.

What statute says 19.9 ?

[Nucky]

What statute says 19.9 ?

I think the Statue of Mr. Schwartz in Spanish Spring Town Square! :ohdear:

Good Question, Reality or Urban Legend?

[EdFNJ]

Once you're passing someone on a golf cart lane that's part of a road (like Morse up north), you're in the regular vehicular traffic lane. So as long as you're not going over the posted speed limit for vehicular traffic there, AND you're not holding up vehicular traffic to do so, I guess it'd be okay to pass a few golf carts.

But if you're on a golf cart path or MMP, you're not allowed to go faster than 19.x mph (whatever that number is). My suggestion to all the slower drivers: if you are going under 17mph and see someone coming up behind you that looks like they'd really like to just not be behind you - slow down a little more, pull to the right if possible, and LET them pass you. Consider - you're clearly not in a rush anyway, so it won't kill you to just slow down another MPH.

When I was using a rental golf cart I ran into this often. My cart couldn't go more than 17. It was set that way, and was annoying because it was very obvious to me that every cart behind me, could go faster, and would if I was just out of their way. So I would always pull over a little as soon as I was in a spot where it was possible, and slow down, and signal to the people behind me to pass.

This has been hashed over 100's of times here already but to rehash it again you are 100% totally WRONG. State law defines a golf cart as not being ABLE TO EXCEED 20MPH. Period. If it is CAPABLE of going over 20MPH it is now an LSV and requires regstration and insurance just like it was a car. I know this 'cause I have an LSV (street legal GC) and insurance and reg is identical to a car. State law defines an LSV (street legal golf cart or other similar vehicle) as not being ABLE TO EXCEED 25MPH.

If your golf cart is CAPABLE of going 22MPH and even if you are only driving it at 19.99 100% of the time you are in violation. Worse yet, if you get into an accident with your 22MPH CAPABLE golf cart and if your insurance company finds out you will likely not be covered (read your policy).

It is ILLEGAL for GC dealers to even sell a GOLF CART CAPABLE of exceeding 25mph and call it a golf cart vs. an LSV. "CAPABLE OF" are the key words here.

[EdFNJ]

IMy wife and I are frequently passed by faster carts. But as I am passed by a cart exceeding 20 mph, a cart without a legal Florida license, I just wonder why the owner has chosen to be a law breaking citizen. Well, it's for the same reason 90% of the vehicles on the FL Tpke drive 85+ or 50+ on Morse or BV or don't declare all their income to the IRS. It's "because a large number of people do it" and GENERALLY no one bothers you for breaking those laws. Do you ever drive 40mph in a car on Morse or BV or 75 on the FL TPKE. GENERALLY no harm is caused and cops have better things to do. It's wrong, but lots of people do it.

[EdFNJ]

It doesn't matter where the golf cart is ruuning.......19.9 is the max speed to be legal. Doesn't matter if you are on a public road or on private property (MMS) or on the moon.......19.9 is max.
Actually the law says "it can't be capable of exceeding 20" to be a golf cart. You can actually drive 20, but who's being picky over .1 mph :D

[JoMar]

Can almost tell who's cart exceeds and who's cart doesn't just by reading the posts. Rationalizing behavior is embedded in several also.

[Topspinmo]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.


I was going down side street in my car where the speed limit was 30 MPH. I was going 30 MPH when in the diamond lane a golfer passed me on the right going 35 plus. I do I know it was golfer? Golf clubs on back of the cart. IMO golfers are the most who violate the law where it be regular golf cart or LSV golf cart. Lots of them go well over 25 MPH. Which, don't beat the one on day when I was Going up BV by saddle brook, in left lane a jacked up Par car with large wheels going 40 MPH. how do I know this I was in the right lane going 38 and got passed. These are the DA's that need to get caught, but it's usually the ones going 22 or 23 IMO. Never the worst Violators which gives majority of us using golf carts that follow the recommended speed limits. .

[Nucky]

How about Golf Carts Passing through the Exit Du Jour from The Historical Section to The Mainland. I had the opportunity to ask one person why they actually do it? Its because the chance of getting caught is slight and to them the benefit is great. Whatareyougonnado? I'd ticket them but I'm not Barney Fife. The man said if he did get caught the ticket is cheaper than making his cart street legal. It was a Gas Yamaha, that can't happen. Oh Well!

[EdFNJ]

Can almost tell who's cart exceeds and who's cart doesn't just by reading the posts. Rationalizing behavior is embedded in several also.


That’s easy. I’d bet 90% are “capable of.” I am regularly passed by “golf carts” in the diamond lane while I am legally driving 25 on the street. They like to show they can go fast without paying the insurance and registration fees. :)


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[EdFNJ]

I was going down side street in my car where the speed limit was 30 MPH. I was going 30 MPH when in the diamond lane a golfer passed me on the right going 35 plus. I do I know it was golfer? Golf clubs on back of the cart. IMO golfers are the most who violate the law where it be regular golf cart or LSV golf cart. Lots of them go well over 25 MPH. Which, don't beat the one on day when I was Going up BV by saddle brook, in left lane a jacked up Par car with large wheels going 40 MPH. how do I know this I was in the right lane going 38 and got passed. These are the DA's that need to get caught, but it's usually the ones going 22 or 23 IMO. Never the worst Violators which gives majority of us using golf carts that follow the recommended speed limits. . Are the ones going 22 or 23 any “less illegal” then the ones going 35? Either you’re a violator or not a violator. ;)






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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Looks like people who read my post, didn't bother reading ALL of my post, OR the post I posted after that telling the person who said I was wrong, was right. Basic math coming up - sets and subsets.

IF (the set of people who wish to drive as fast as the max legal limit of a non-street-legal golf cart)

occurs when (the set of people who drive several MPH under the max legal limit of a non-street-legal golf cart)

THEN

(the set of people who drive several MPH under the max legal limit of a non-street-legal golf cart) might be courteous and slow down even more,
AND drive far to the right

SUCH THAT

(the set of people who wish to drive up to the max speed limit for non-street-legal golf carts) can pass them safely and legally

WHEN IT IS LEGAL TO DO SO


I think I've covered pretty much everything now.

[Down Sized]

I’m about to run out of popcorn! :popcorn:

[charmed59]

The most annoying thing for me is when my speedometer shows I'm going 20 mph, and somebody who can go 21 mph gets on my tail and slowly passes me over the next 2 minutes.

I agree, it’s annoying. However, if I slow down when they start to pass they get by much faster.

I have a cart that won’t go over 20. If I get behind someone going 18 or better I just can’t pass them.

[Nucky]

I’m about to run out of popcorn! :popcorn:

I'll go get the Popcorn but its gonna take a while at 20 MPH! Sorry, :popcorn:

[Velvet]

I’m in the cart behind you, going slow cause I’m just learning to golf cart...

[New Englander]

I’m about to run out of popcorn! :popcorn:

Hold on. I popping some right now. :popcorn:

[Nucky]

I’m in the cart behind you, going slow cause I’m just learning to golf cart...

Good for you. Don't let a Clown behind you shake you up. They forget we were all new at one time. They are the one with the problem that's why they are in the back! :clap2:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Good for you. Don't let a Clown behind you shake you up. They forget we were all new at one time. They are the one with the problem that's why they are in the back! :clap2:

:bigbow:

They should've gotten an earlier start!

That said though - if you're slower than the guy behind you, and that guy is just trying to do the speed limit (in whatever vehicle, on whatever path, in whatever circumstance), and you are able to safely pull to the right and allow that guy to pass, it's probably a good idea to just do that.

[jeriteri]

How about a guy who when I come to a street to cross, I stop before crossing, but this guy passes me through the entrance side of the path without stopping? He's either stupid, drunk or drunk!

[Nucky]

How about a guy who when I come to a street to cross, I stop before crossing, but this guy passes me through the entrance side of the path without stopping? He's either stupid, drunk or drunk!

You know when your're going around the Round About on Morse close to 441. It is infinitely possible and likely that you could easily have a Newbie coming at you at some point in the Roundabout. Leave Common Sense out of it. It happens on a regular basis. The entire operation is far from clearly marked. I don't struggle but many others do. I have called in the specific Stop signs and OneWay Arrows that are missing. Even took the time to put it in writing and bring it to the Office in LSL. This was about 3 months ago. I know they are busy but come on!

When going around that particular spot in the Golf Cart when I get to the middle position I make no eye contact with the cars that are passing thru as their favor of letting me go could cause me harm. I also park in the middle so no other cart can park beside me, thats a new one, happened twice this week while going to the Santa Baraba Doctors offices. That is a very very dangerous area. It's amazing how many people don't use their BLINKERS.

[GatorFan]

Golf Cart Citation Story | Inside The Bubble (https://www.insidethebubble.co/golf-cart-citation-story/)

[Topspinmo]

Are the ones going 22 or 23 any “less illegal” then the ones going 35? Either you’re a violator or not a violator. ;)






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The point is:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: 22 or 23 can be argued in court of law where calibration of radar could come in to question. Where 35 plus no argument. So, same could be said going 120 on interstate where the speed limit 70. Most likely you will get arrested. IMO going 30 plus in golf cart/LSV is just as criminal.

[Shakerag Diva]

I got cussed out by a man in a cart when I was going over the golf cart bridge into the historical section.

I am not that comfortable going over the bridge so I go over cautiously. After getting to the bottom, the man yelled, “You are going too GD slow”.

This happened to me last week. My usual rely to jerks is to say under my breath, “Bless his/her heart.” I was too rattled that day to even say that.

Some people have hate in their heart. I choose not to be one of them.

[photo1902]

You know when your're going around the Round About on Morse close to 441. It is infinitely possible and likely that you could easily have a Newbie coming at you at some point in the Roundabout. Leave Common Sense out of it. It happens on a regular basis. The entire operation is far from clearly marked. I don't struggle but many others do. I have called in the specific Stop signs and OneWay Arrows that are missing. Even took the time to put it in writing and bring it to the Office in LSL. This was about 3 months ago. I know they are busy but come on!

When going around that particular spot in the Golf Cart when I get to the middle position I make no eye contact with the cars that are passing thru as their favor of letting me go could cause me harm. I also park in the middle so no other cart can park beside me, thats a new one, happened twice this week while going to the Santa Baraba Doctors offices. That is a very very dangerous area. It's amazing how many people don't use their BLINKERS.

I would imagine the proper place to request street signs for that area would be Lady Lake Public Works Dept, not The Villages.

[mulligan]

Putting it in writing was a good idea.Taking it to LSL , not so much. They are COUNTY owned roads. You need to contact county DOT.

[JoelJohnson]

It's been awhile, but I'm pretty sure a "golf cart" can't exceed 19.5 MPG and a "LSV" 24.5 MPG, but I can't remember the exact FL statue.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

You know when your're going around the Round About on Morse close to 441. It is infinitely possible and likely that you could easily have a Newbie coming at you at some point in the Roundabout. Leave Common Sense out of it. It happens on a regular basis. The entire operation is far from clearly marked. I don't struggle but many others do. I have called in the specific Stop signs and OneWay Arrows that are missing. Even took the time to put it in writing and bring it to the Office in LSL. This was about 3 months ago. I know they are busy but come on!

When going around that particular spot in the Golf Cart when I get to the middle position I make no eye contact with the cars that are passing thru as their favor of letting me go could cause me harm. I also park in the middle so no other cart can park beside me, thats a new one, happened twice this week while going to the Santa Baraba Doctors offices. That is a very very dangerous area. It's amazing how many people don't use their BLINKERS.

My turn signal on my golf cart beeps to let me know it's on, which is awesome. But it's SOOOOO loud, it sounds like the back-up beepers. So if I'm turning I use it so everyone knows I'm going to turn - but if I'm turning from an actual "turn lane" I don't use it. The fact that I'm in that lane should be sufficient warning that I'm planning on turning. Sitting at a traffic light with that thing beeping into my brain is tolerable once per trip. I can't handle more than that!

Other than that kind of situation, I use my turn signal. And of course I remember to turn it off after I turn because of that dag-blasted beep pestering me til I do!

[Nucky]

I would imagine the proper place to request street signs for that area would be Lady Lake Public Works Dept, not The Villages.

You would think so and so did I so I went to a Villager who has lived here on Schwartz since the very beginning and went with his guidance. He is normally on the money with his advice. The people at The Villages office gladly accepted my suggestion and had someone come out to make sure they were Chrystally Clear about exactly where the trouble spots were. I was very pleased that someone cared enough to speak with me. Maybe its the first job on Monday? :ohdear:

[coffeebean]

It’s just like driving a car. You pass slowpokes

My cart will not exceed 20 mph on flat land. I get passed quite a bit. Am I considered a "slow poke"?

[coffeebean]

My turn signal on my golf cart beeps to let me know it's on, which is awesome. But it's SOOOOO loud, it sounds like the back-up beepers. So if I'm turning I use it so everyone knows I'm going to turn - but if I'm turning from an actual "turn lane" I don't use it. The fact that I'm in that lane should be sufficient warning that I'm planning on turning. Sitting at a traffic light with that thing beeping into my brain is tolerable once per trip. I can't handle more than that!

Other than that kind of situation, I use my turn signal. And of course I remember to turn it off after I turn because of that dag-blasted beep pestering me til I do!

I use my blinkers (directionals) all the time. They are silent but they are self cancelling......just like a car self cancels after a turn.

[BobnBev]

Mine does a flat 20 on a level road, downhill, 27 tops, but I don't let it go that fast.

[EdFNJ]

Mine does a flat 20 on a level road, downhill, 27 tops, but I don't let it go that fast. That's an interesting point. The statute states the the golf cart cannot be CAPABLE of exceeding 20mph. I wonder if some officer having a bad day could cite you for free-rolling downhill at 27mph. I'm talking "technicality" obviously because there would never be a speed trap set at the bottom of a hill (except in NJ). ;)

[dewilson58]

Clear the roads...................I'm heading over to Belle Glade this morning to plan a crappy golf course and I'm going to pass every golf cart along the way.

[kstew43]

Or, if you are being tailgated, you can pull over onto the grass and let them pass. I do this because I find it less nerve-wracking than someone breathing down my neck.

thats my answer as well...... :bigbow:

[curtis41]

My 2019 stock Yamaha PTV Drive 2 does 20 mph stock. It said the speed was set to 19.5 mph. Checked it on a gps and it was exactly 20 mph. It can be adjusted to go a lot faster, but not advised, due to heavier wear and reliability. Pass if allowed and it can be done safely.

[GoPacers]

thats my answer as well...... :bigbow:

I'm with you on this. No matter how fast my golf cart goes (uphill, downhill or otherwise) if I'm clearly holding someone up and I'm not in a long line of carts I try to be respectful and let them pass when it's safe to do so.

Most of the "passing" that I see though involves a cart doing well under 20mph and whether someone's cart is going 19.5mph or 23.5mph is just not anything I am going to worry about.

[coffeebean]

Mine does a flat 20 on a level road, downhill, 27 tops, but I don't let it go that fast.


What downhill are you speaking of.....the bridge that crosses 441? I'm lucky if I can get our cart to 22mph on a down hill in the streets.

[coffeebean]

Most of the "passing" that I see though involves a cart doing well under 20mph and whether someone's cart is going 19.5mph or 23.5mph is just not anything I am going to worry about.

I can speak from experience as our cart has a speedometer. I've had carts pass me as I was traveling 19.9 mph and go so fast your head will spin. I think they are showing off, actually and I just laugh to myself.

[BobnBev]

What downhill are you speaking of.....the bridge that crosses 441? I'm lucky if I can get our cart to 22mph on a down hill in the streets.

Any of the hills on Stillwater, O'Dell circle or their side roads. As a side note, the Villages golf car repair shop set the governor to 22mph. Said they did that to help keep up the speed going uphill.
The governor is supposed to hold you back going downhill, but mine doesn't. I'll have to bring that to their attention at my next service.

[Laker14]

Golf Cart Citation Story | Inside The Bubble (https://www.insidethebubble.co/golf-cart-citation-story/)

Interesting story. I think most folks assume that they'd be treated similarly to the way they'd be treated in an automobile, for going " a few" mph over the speed limit. Certainly, nobody would expect to have to go through what this person went through if they were exceeding a posted speed limit by 1mph in a car.

I bought a cart this past winter, my first, and it was set so that I couldn't hit 20 downhill, with a tailwind. It is hard to accept that when 95% of the other carts are whizzing by you at somewhere between 22 and 25. You figure, "go with the flow".

[EdFNJ]

Interesting story. I think most folks assume that they'd be treated similarly to the way they'd be treated in an automobile, for going " a few" mph over the speed limit. Certainly, nobody would expect to have to go through what this person went through if they were exceeding a posted speed limit by 1mph in a car.He wasn't ticketed for speeding he was ticketed for driving an unregistered and uninsured motor vehicle because his cart was CAPABLE OF EXCEEDING 20mph (and he was) and was no longer considered a golf cart but an LSV. If he was driving 15mph and for whatever other reason a cop stopped him and they found his cart was capable of exceeding 20mph he could face the same violation. He was driving the equivalent of an unregistered car. He was likely driving a lot faster than 1mph over the limit to have been stopped. What he was probably thinking (but didn't say in court) was "geez, 90% of the carts here in T.V. are capable of exceeding 20mph, how come I was the lucky one to get nabbed."

[dewilson58]

He wasn't ticketed for speeding he was ticketed for driving an unregistered and uninsured motor vehicle because his cart was CAPABLE OF EXCEEDING 20mph (and he was) and was no longer considered a golf cart but an LSV. If he was driving 15mph and for whatever other reason a cop stopped him and they found his cart was capable of exceeding 20mph he could face the same violation. He was driving the equivalent of an unregistered car. He was likely driving a lot faster than 1mph over the limit to have been stopped. What he was probably thinking (but didn't say in court) was "geez, 90% of the carts here in T.V. are capable of exceeding 20mph, how come I was the lucky one to get nabbed."


Probably knocking on the door to 100%. Down hill, pretty much everyone can exceed 20mph.

[Laker14]

He wasn't ticketed for speeding he was ticketed for driving an unregistered and uninsured motor vehicle because his cart was CAPABLE OF EXCEEDING 20mph (and he was) and was no longer considered a golf cart but an LSV. If he was driving 15mph and for whatever other reason a cop stopped him and they found his cart was capable of exceeding 20mph he could face the same violation. He was driving the equivalent of an unregistered car. He was likely driving a lot faster than 1mph over the limit to have been stopped. What he was probably thinking (but didn't say in court) was "geez, 90% of the carts here in T.V. are capable of exceeding 20mph, how come I was the lucky one to get nabbed."
yes, but what got him stopped in the first place was getting clocked at a whisker over 20mph. My point still holds. Nobody would expect to get noticed by going a smidge over the speed limit.
Do you think this guy just got stopped on a whim by the police officer, or do you think he got stopped because he got clocked at 20.1mph?

[UpNorth]

If you get in a golf cart accident (even if it is not your fault), the police will likely check to see if your governor has been tampered with. If it is set too high, you may get the "$500 experience" of owning an unregistered motor vehicle. Doesn't matter if you were
going the speed limit or not.

[EdFNJ]

yes, but what got him stopped in the first place was getting clocked at a whisker over 20mph. My point still holds. Nobody would expect to get noticed by going a smidge over the speed limit.
Do you think this guy just got stopped on a whim by the police officer, or do you think he got stopped because he got clocked at 20.1mph?

Neither is correct. What I said was that it was highly unlikely he was going "a smidge over 20mph." NOWHERE in the article did he state he was "going a smidge over 20mph." In fact what he did state was: "I thought WHAT! – Morse Blvd. has a speed limit of 30mph – I was not going any speed close to the limit....." and "My plea was “No Contest” because I had no idea I was creating a criminal offense by driving the golf cart in excess of 20 mph." and "Next time I want to go “speeding” in a golf cart, I’ll be bringing my trusty technology from Remotecarstarterhero.com (https://www.remotecarstarterhero.com/buyers-guides/best-radar-detectors/). Eat that radars."

That comment about the website also seems like an advertisement as well which could slightly taint the whole story. The article which I read about 2 1/2 years ago in the book it came from is def true in it's fact about the law and consequences and was one of the reasons I decided to go "street legal" however I do take the actual story with a couple grains of salt due to the plug at the end. The author of that book does have some ulterior plug and selling motives if you read his book (which was very informative pre-purchase) and get his newsletter.

[EdFNJ]

Probably knocking on the door to 100%. Down hill, pretty much everyone can exceed 20mph. True, but I meant on a level straightaway. :D

[PennBF]

What it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to The Villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the Golf Carts, you push your way through the Grocery Store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the Squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. OH Yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.:ho:

[DonH57]

What it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to The Villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the Golf Carts, you push your way through the Grocery Store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the Squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. OH Yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.:ho:

I wondered the same thing in my daily observations of fellow villagers. Walking heart attacks.:ohdear:

[Marathon Man]

What it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to The Villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the Golf Carts, you push your way through the Grocery Store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the Squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. OH Yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.:ho:

Wise and wonderful words.

[Bay Kid]

The carts are soooo slow back home in Virginia.

[ohiosbestus]

Call your local police department and complain to them.They will set up patrols in the area and I will guarantee that will slow them people up that think they can hot rod their golf carts anywhere. It will actually prevent a bad accident some day....

[danliz]

golf cart cops live

[wamley]

There are numerous carts that go faster than 20mph.

[Ramone]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.

To those that want to pass a 10 MPH cart I say go ahead. But to those who want to pass the 20-23MPH cart just to show your superiority, be careful. As we see all the time carts can flip at the jerk of the wheel at that speed. Your retired, just enjoy the view at 20MPH even if you are behind someone. Relax!

[062848]

Absolutely ...too many accidents and too many “macho” speeders putting everyone’s life in jeopardy

[D.Lawrence]

Leave your bad driving habits back in the state where you moved from, no hurry zone, leave early and enjoy the ride please !!

[sandy1099]

We have a speedometer on our cart and some people are poking along at 14-15 miles an hour. That may be why you see carts passing other carts.

[photo1902]

Absolutely ...too many accidents and too many “macho” speeders putting everyone’s life in jeopardy

What percentage of the golf cart accidents here are attributed to excessive speed?

[2314samship]

Not everyone in The Villages is retired and maybe the person passing is coming/going from work and has to be at work or at a tee time. Cars pass each other all the time so why such a big deal if you get passed by a golf car. I get passed all the time and I'm not the slowest and obviously not the fastest.

[GregP]

ABSOLUTELY. I even had a Golf cart pass me on the right when I was doing 30 in my car! Scared the living hell out of me. My cart does 20 MPH right on the nose and every now and then will get up to 21/22 down a nice hill and hardly a time goes by when I do not have someone trying to push me or pass me.

On the other hand those that do 15 can be dangerous, but aren't we retired, slow down and enjoy life, relax go with the flow.

[rjackson1759]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.

My wife and I are seeing this more often than we like. At first it was humorous, but now seeing an 'old fart' with his baseball hat turned around backwards, flying by us (we were doing 21.3 mph) is not funny! It is as if 'the inner youth' has returned, but in a dangerous way. Golf carts have little 'bargaining power' in confrontations with cars and very little in the way of protection for their occupants. What is the hurry? Slow down just a little bit and share the road safely.

[dewilson58]

ABSOLUTELY. I even had a Golf cart pass me on the right when I was doing 30 in my car! Scared the living hell out of me. My cart does 20 MPH right on the nose and every now and then will get up to 21/22 down a nice hill and hardly a time goes by when I do not have someone trying to push me or pass me.

On the other hand those that do 15 can be dangerous, but aren't we retired, slow down and enjoy life, relax go with the flow.




Be careful, you just admitted to a crime and will cost you ~$800.


:ohdear:

[vettecouple]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.
Yes it is an issue. Our golf cart is designed with a top speed of 22 mph with a normal cruising max of 20 mph. On many occasions golf carts(all gas) pass at a much higher speed. On Pinellas place I saw a cart pass several others. I was in the car and followed the cart at 29 mph.

[bmit16]

I have noticed that on many occasions drivers fail to maintain 20 mph sometimes traveling between 15 and 17 mph. This causes carts to back up behind the slow cart. Then a cart comes up behind that is trying to make a t time or softball game time or some other activity time and this results in the last cart having to pass. If people would maintain 20 mph a lot of passing would be impossible unless a cart is modified to exceed 20 mph. Then the police can deal with that.

[PennBF]

Why not ask yourself why you are upset because a golf cart passed you. If you are going the speed you like then so what if someone goes by. There is a certain "competitiveness" and you probably view it as an insult that someone had the nerve to actually go faster than you? The more serious question is not that a cart passed you but rather why are you upset they did. Just another indication that you are unsettled with yourself and have adopted an attitude that is unhealthy. It's best not to try to analyze why someone has the need to go faster but again why do you care and what is the underlying cause of your anxious attitude? Be thankful for what you have and your ability to just enjoy life!!!:ho:

[gesivad]

Some of us just like speed.

[Oneiric]

Because in many places the golf cart lanes are forced to merge with regular auto traffic, being able to go over 20 for a short distance is invaluable.

[Judy n Ron]

I'm more concerned with the nutball yard guys, UPS and Fed-ex racing around corners on 2 wheels through the neighborhoods, while folks are strolling or walking their dogs. If I was a Sumter or Lake deputy, I'd have a field day ticketing these clowns. The Villages apparently decided more houses per neighborhood was more important than sidewalks. God forbid that the Morse Family should sacrifice a bit of profit for sensible safety. Wait until someone's grandchild gets hit!

[72lions]

I’m MUCH more concerned about 50+ MPH on BV and Morse than carts. It’s time for Sumter County to get serious about patrols.

[WalkerLoop]

I have a speedometer in my golf cart that I have tested so I know it is accurate. I'll typically drive between 21 and 22 mph. Carts frequently pass me and occasionally I'll speed up to check their speed before I slow back down. Carts frequently are going 25 mph and faster. The police periodically will enforce the 20 mph law. When they catch these speeders, they will be charged with driving an unregistered vehicle. In Sumter County, they will have to appear before a judge, attend driver school and get points on their license which will affect their car insurance. Also, they will have to pay about $250 for the incident plus another $25+ to show they had their speed governor adjusted by a technician to lower their high speed to 20 mph. Does it make sense to speed and pass carts going at roughly 20 mph - NO. If the cart is going slower ans it's a safe passing zone - NO PROBLEM.

[OldManTime]

I find it hard to comprehend the idiotic comments on Golf Carts. In my 18 years here in the Villages, i have seen deaths caused by Golf Carts, they disintegrate at 5 mph, and occupants have no protection. So many idiots break the law’s speed limits, because they think Carts are like a Carnival fun bumper cars. So many convicted criminals with no Drivers License, and Senior Citizens that cant drive because they are blind and or deaf, driving Golf Carts, on our roads, public and private. And these ignorant ones that think its fun, shame on you.

[VApeople]

I'm more concerned with the nutball yard guys, UPS and Fed-ex racing around corners on 2 wheels through the neighborhoods, while folks are strolling or walking their dogs.

If you are truly concerned about that, then move to Fenney.

Fenney and the other neighborhoods south of 44 have miles and miles of walking trails where no motorized vehicles are allowed.

We live in Osceola Hills but we never walk in our neighborhood. If w want to go for a nice walk, we drive a few miles to Marsh Bend or Linden.

[TomSwango]

Speeding in golf carts, as well as cars, is a problem in the villages

[Reasons]

If 3 cars need to passed it means the lead car is pacing everyone. Passing 1 cart no problem, passing 3 carts keep your head up. Usually not a good idea.

[BobnBev]

There are numerous carts that go faster than 20mph.

Ya think?

[fsusix]

Failure to STOP at stop signs is a HUGE problem. I wish it was addressed by the sheriff's office. So bad - that the other day - my husband stopped after the gate at the stop sign and another driver harassed him for stopping. Unbelievable!!! Look Left - right LEFT after stopping would save many accidents. Most people don't even look. And that BRIDGE going over Sumter - why can't you drive the 10mph posted speed limit - that is so narrow and dangerous. I have been passed - and harassed. Why be in a hurry - this place is gorgeous. Enjoy the lifestyle - BREATHE!!!

[IndianaJones]

Here's the actual State of Florida Statutes, for those who wanna know:
Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes
:

Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.212.html)

[Ladygolfer93]

I don't think it is limited to that area. Terrible on the cart path from Laurel M. area to Sumter landing. So dangerous, many near bad accidents. Some will take any chance to "floor it" at much higher speeds than posted; EVEN where the trail splits they will try to "make it" before the split. What I can't understand, my cart was tested at dealer, was actually at 20.5. When I told dealer in Jan. that I HAD to do something to increase speed as I was having people whizzing past constantly when I was going top speed, 3 dealers told me they are not "allowed by law" (?) to do anything to increase speed (law ? or law suits I was thinking ?), I began to wonder, do that many residents actually know how to make their carts run so fast by working on them ??? One out ran my auto which was going 26 mph on Belvidere just two days ago !)

[rrb48310]

Looks like people who read my post, didn't bother reading ALL of my post, OR the post I posted after that telling the person who said I was wrong, was right. Basic math coming up - sets and subsets.

IF (the set of people who wish to drive as fast as the max legal limit of a non-street-legal golf cart)

occurs when (the set of people who drive several MPH under the max legal limit of a non-street-legal golf cart)

THEN

(the set of people who drive several MPH under the max legal limit of a non-street-legal golf cart) might be courteous and slow down even more,
AND drive far to the right

SUCH THAT

(the set of people who wish to drive up to the max speed limit for non-street-legal golf carts) can pass them safely and legally

WHEN IT IS LEGAL TO DO SO


I think I've covered pretty much everything now.


:duck: Yep! It’s time to enjoy, your not in the Rat Race anymore. Slow down, move over for those who are still on track to higher blood pressure meds.

[patfla06]

what it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to the villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the golf carts, you push your way through the grocery store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. Oh yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.:ho:

Very well said.

I cannot understand the impatience and hurry everyone is in. Slow down & enjoy the time you have left.

[rrb48310]

I don't think it is limited to that area. Terrible on the cart path from Laurel M. area to Sumter landing. So dangerous, many near bad accidents. Some will take any chance to "floor it" at much higher speeds than posted; EVEN where the trail splits they will try to "make it" before the split. What I can't understand, my cart was tested at dealer, was actually at 20.5. When I told dealer in Jan. that I HAD to do something to increase speed as I was having people whizzing past constantly when I was going top speed, 3 dealers told me they are not "allowed by law" (?) to do anything to increase speed (law ? or law suits I was thinking ?), I began to wonder, do that many residents actually know how to make their carts run so fast by working on them ??? One out ran my auto which was going 26 mph on Belvidere just two days ago !)


My salesman told me that if Joe Blow tells you how to disengage the governor to go over the 20 mph, be aware that nullifies the warranty :boom: and they can tell when the engine is checked.

[Rga20]

The other relevant statute addresses the definition of a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) requiring license and insurance for golf carts that can travel between 20 and 25 MPH. That's a fairly tight window, but it is the law.

[Ladygolfer93]

Yes ! Exactly what I have experienced. People actually harassing you for going right at the limit for carts ! One man actually followed me into Walmart parking lot and parked right next to me, AFTER angerly pulling out and around, and THEN having to stop at the light just past Steak & Shake. And, NO, I was not "poking along", I was doing the 20.5 mph that my cart will do ! And while I am expressing my frustration, has anyone else experienced this: Going through cart gate on Belvidere near the high school, a auto stopped at gate, goes through when arm lifts, and then "floors it" immediately to turn RIGHT from the auto lane, cutting right in front of your cart so suddenly you barely miss crashing into the passenger side of the auto ? This is very frightening as in most cases you have NO idea they are trying to "beat" you, or that they would not wait to turn right in front of you until you had cleared the street (less than 5 SECONDS) ! I realize police might say the autos have the right to turn in front of a cart in the cart lane of street, but, to "race" a cart just to get to street first ? In the case of Belvidere, the first right turn is literally yards from the gate.

[Ladygolfer93]

Amen ! !

[Ladygolfer93]

All so (sadly) true.

[patfla06]

We have a speedometer on our cart and some people are poking along at 14-15 miles an hour. That may be why you see carts passing other carts.

I have to disagree with you.

Pinellas Place has many golf carts going 25, 30+ mph on a daily basis.
They’re passing because they want to go well over the 20 mph.

[SouthJerseyGirl]

Relax and let them pass.

[Velvet]

I find it strange that people would try to “race” a golf cart... on our Lifestyle visit we watched a couple of guys in a golf cart speed around a curb going towards Sumter Landing, hit the curb and go down sideways. They were buckled in. Hubby and another person righted the cart and off the cart went full speed ahead like nothing happened.

[photo1902]

Relax and let them pass.

Exactly! Amazing how upset people get, and how personal they take being passed. Good grief! Have they never had someone pass them while driving a car?

[ABrumm]

Do you think a golf cart passing 3 other carts is doing slightly more than 20 mph-have seen this often on St Charles & Bailey Tr.
Yeah. I've seen golf carts passing. Please, get out of the way.

[threefootputt]

Yes. Also, failure to obey stop signs.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

What it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to The Villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the Golf Carts, you push your way through the Grocery Store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the Squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. OH Yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.:ho:

I'm sure it's wonderful for people who are retired, with all the time and money in the world to do whatever they want, whenever they like, and relax and enjoy their lives.

But some of us still have to work for a living. This isn't a retirement community. It's a 55+ community. And social security doesn't kick in til you're 62, minimum. Medicare takes even longer.

[BobnBev]

I find it strange that people would try to “race” a golf cart... on our Lifestyle visit we watched a couple of guys in a golf cart speed around a curb going towards Sumter Landing, hit the curb and go down sideways. They were buckled in. Hubby and another person righted the cart and off the cart went full speed ahead like nothing happened.

You know what they say, No Brain, No Pain.:ohdear:

[Cathrine1]

We are new villagers and carts pass us when we are going full speed. We don’t mind ... just be safe and have fun. We are all so blessed to live in this paradise.

[Laker14]

Neither is correct. What I said was that it was highly unlikely he was going "a smidge over 20mph." NOWHERE in the article did he state he was "going a smidge over 20mph." In fact what he did state was: "I thought WHAT! – Morse Blvd. has a speed limit of 30mph – I was not going any speed close to the limit....." and "My plea was “No Contest” because I had no idea I was creating a criminal offense by driving the golf cart in excess of 20 mph." and "Next time I want to go “speeding” in a golf cart, I’ll be bringing my trusty technology from Remotecarstarterhero.com (https://www.remotecarstarterhero.com/buyers-guides/best-radar-detectors/). Eat that radars."

That comment about the website also seems like an advertisement as well which could slightly taint the whole story. The article which I read about 2 1/2 years ago in the book it came from is def true in it's fact about the law and consequences and was one of the reasons I decided to go "street legal" however I do take the actual story with a couple grains of salt due to the plug at the end. The author of that book does have some ulterior plug and selling motives if you read his book (which was very informative pre-purchase) and get his newsletter.

yep, you are correct. I reread the article and he doesn't say he was going "just" over the speed limit. I must have been confused with another post....so I wouldn't be surprised if he was clipping along at 25 or more, and THAT got noticed...
:coolsmiley:

[Barefoot]

Speeding in golf carts, as well as cars, is a problem in the villages
Welcome to TOTV. :welcome:

[Quixote]

Relax and let them pass.

This couldn't have been said any better. One thing I do is pull over for a half a minute to allow a cart close behind me to pass. Just a courtesy—and a safety one at that. I was once out with my grandson, age 16, showing him pointers of golf cart driving when someone chomping at the bit zoomed past us to make a left turn—and a case of some beverage in glass bottles went sliding off his cart and smashed into the curb. What a mess! My grandson and I had the 'courtesy' to wait till we were out of hearing range to laugh our heads off!


I'm sure it's wonderful for people who are retired, with all the time and money in the world to do whatever they want, whenever they like, and relax and enjoy their lives.

But some of us still have to work for a living. This isn't a retirement community. It's a 55+ community. And social security doesn't kick in til you're 62, minimum. Medicare takes even longer.

I'm sorry, you've lost me; yes, of course there are people in TV who still work, but what does this have to do with the subject? Surely you're not suggesting that people going to work have a special dispensation to speed rather than leaving enough time so they don't have to?

[two2jacks]

Some people have a hard time retiring. Passing someone is just a macho display of their shortcomings. Just smile and find joy in the fact that you are more mature than hot rod Henry or Henrietta.
It's like speeding on the freeway.... do 85 mph long enough and you will pay the price. We might just need a few more cart speed traps!

[dianebgolfer]

Did you think the others are going 10-15? The rental carts are made to go slower.

[MEbner2805]

The street legal golf carts could be faster in a lot of cases, so it may be a non-issue. Let people pass as it’s not worth road rage fights. We are retired so just take like easy going.

[DaleDivine]

I haven't seen it mentioned, but Brownwood cart store will increase the governor so that your cart can travel at speeds up to 25 MPH. You just have to sign a waiver. They ask you if you want it done and then charge about $25 to do it. Doesn't affect the warranty. And also if you're in an accident or stopped for some infraction, they CANNOT tell how fast the cart was going.
And I think a lot of people are in a hurry to get things done while they're able to do so.
Just pull over and let them pass, just like you do in your car on a highway.

[EdFNJ]

IAnd also if you're in an accident or stopped for some infraction, they CANNOT tell how fast the cart was going. I read somewhere the coppers can use a new fangled device called ray-dar or something that shows how fast you are going. I read about it on the inter-rent or whatever it's called so it must be true. ;)

[Marathon Man]

I'm sorry, you've lost me; yes, of course there are people in TV who still work, but what does this have to do with the subject? Surely you're not suggesting that people going to work have a special dispensation to speed rather than leaving enough time so they don't have to?

Uh. Yea. I think maybe that was the suggestion.

[Bay Kid]

Welcome to TOTV. :welcome:

Not just TVs, everywhere!

[birdiebill]

Speeding in a golf cart is not the issue. The issue is driving an unregistered "Low Speed Vehicle." You can not drive a "golf cart" faster than 20 mph. If it goes faster than 20 mph on level ground, it is a Low Speed Vehicle, not a golf cart. Register the LSV and no problem.

[BobnBev]

Speeding in a golf cart is not the issue. The issue is driving an unregistered "Low Speed Vehicle." You can not drive a "golf cart" faster than 20 mph. If it goes faster than 20 mph on level ground, it is a Low Speed Vehicle, not a golf cart. Register the LSV and no problem.

You're partially right. To register a golf cart as a LSV, it has to be electric, not gas, and have all the modifications required. Plus you need proof of insurance before you can register it.

[photo1902]

You're partially right. To register a golf cart as a LSV, it has to be electric, not gas, and have all the modifications required. Plus you need proof of insurance before you can register it.

Nope. A LSV can be gas or electric.

[red tail]

Florida Golf Cart & Low Speed Vehicle Laws | Golf Cart Laws by State (https://golfcartresource.com/florida-golf-cart-low-speed-vehicle-laws/)

[New Englander]

Most everybody passes me because I drive a golf cart 15 MPH. When somebody goes to pass I slow down more so they can pass quicker. I'm retired and not in a hurry. IMO golf carts are not made to handle the speeds some people drive them.

[BlkBlt6]

I appreciate golf car drivers that slow down when passing walkers on the modals. There have been times that a golf car drove so fast and close to me as I walk that I had to jump out of the way.

[willis100]

Why not ask yourself why you are upset because a golf cart passed you. If you are going the speed you like then so what if someone goes by. There is a certain "competitiveness" and you probably view it as an insult that someone had the nerve to actually go faster than you? The more serious question is not that a cart passed you but rather why are you upset they did. Just another indication that you are unsettled with yourself and have adopted an attitude that is unhealthy. It's best not to try to analyze why someone has the need to go faster but again why do you care and what is the underlying cause of your anxious attitude? Be thankful for what you have and your ability to just enjoy life!!!:ho:
Very best answer I have read on this ever repeating subject.....thanks

[photo1902]

Very best answer I have read on this ever repeating subject.....thanks

:bigbow:

[EdFNJ]

Nope. A LSV can be gas or electric.



I’m sure you are correct but yet I have never seen a gas LSV (and I do look). Doesn’t mean there aren’t any but i check the many I have seen on the road with FL plates. Maybe because most of the gas carts around here don’t have available the required safety features like an actual 1 piece full windshield with DOT approved safety glass. A lot of the required specs have changed recently according to the folks in Ocala when mine had to go in for a “pre-approval” inspection because the 2 models I have weren’t on the state pre-checked approval list.


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[Quixote]

Speeding in a golf cart is not the issue. The issue is driving an unregistered "Low Speed Vehicle." You can not drive a "golf cart" faster than 20 mph. If it goes faster than 20 mph on level ground, it is a Low Speed Vehicle, not a golf cart. Register the LSV and no problem.


However, to register it is not so simple. If it is a 'low speed vehicle' rather than a 'golf cart,' then besides registration it requires seat belts, insurance, and I can't remember what else. A few years ago I remember speed traps for golf carts; speeding in a golf cart resulted in FIVE tickets, each of which was $250+. I laugh my head off when I see or hear these stories. The golf cart speed limit is 20 MPH. Period.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

This couldn't have been said any better. One thing I do is pull over for a half a minute to allow a cart close behind me to pass. Just a courtesy—and a safety one at that. I was once out with my grandson, age 16, showing him pointers of golf cart driving when someone chomping at the bit zoomed past us to make a left turn—and a case of some beverage in glass bottles went sliding off his cart and smashed into the curb. What a mess! My grandson and I had the 'courtesy' to wait till we were out of hearing range to laugh our heads off!




I'm sorry, you've lost me; yes, of course there are people in TV who still work, but what does this have to do with the subject? Surely you're not suggesting that people going to work have a special dispensation to speed rather than leaving enough time so they don't have to?

Here's the post I was responding to, which was part of my post (I quoted it then). Bold and italicized for emphasisl Maybe you'll not be lost if you focus on the context:

Originally Posted by PennBF View Post
What it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to The Villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the Golf Carts, you push your way through the Grocery Store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the Squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. OH Yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Uh. Yea. I think maybe that was the suggestion.

The suggestion is that people who want to relax and enjoy and never feel a need to get from point A to point B at any particular time since they're retired - not feel entitled to whine about people who actually have places to go, and deadlines to meet. Because, as I said, this is NOT a "retirement" community. It's a 55+ community, and many people still work, and need to get to work on time, and give themselves enough time to get to work - UNTIL someone decides they want to go only 10mph because they're retired and not in a hurry with no place to go.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Most everybody passes me because I drive a golf cart 15 MPH. When somebody goes to pass I slow down more so they can pass quicker. I'm retired and not in a hurry. IMO golf carts are not made to handle the speeds some people drive them.

This is the courteous thing to do. It's what I do when I'm just enjoying a relaxing golf cart ride, or if I think I took a wrong turn and need to get my bearings before going back up to the normal 18-19mph speed.

[EdFNJ]

However, to register it is not so simple. If it is a 'low speed vehicle' rather than a 'golf cart,' then besides registration it requires seat belts, insurance, and I can't remember what else. A few years ago I remember speed traps for golf carts; speeding in a golf cart resulted in FIVE tickets, each of which was $250+. I laugh my head off when I see or hear these stories. The golf cart speed limit is 20 MPH. Period. It's not difficult at all, just relatively expensive. If it is a model already on the state's "approved list" you just walk into any agency and register it like a car. If it is not (like mine) it needs to be trucked up to Ocala for inspection (by appointment). They look at it while it is on the flatbed and make sure it has DOT front windshield glass and tires, a few reflectors, side view mirrors, seat belts, turn signals, and a few other things and they OK it. It seems it takes like 5 minutes once it is there.

[DaleDivine]

Another thing. It is unlawful to cross over the solid line on a diamond trail. Butttttt, how many people have crossed over the solid line to pass a bicycle going 5 MPH?
If you have, YOU just broke the law. If you don't pass them, there would be a mile long backup of golf carts.

[charmed59]

I don’t mind folks driving 15mph. Heck, when I get off a sport court and am in no hurry I might tootle along at 15mph. I have no problem with folks driving whatever speed they feel comfortable driving. I just make sure I’m not in their way. Just because I’m in no hurry doesn’t mean that guy coming up behind me isn’t rushing to help a fallen friend or has an important appointment or class or tee time. I just pull over and let them by.

[bagboy]

Another thing. It is unlawful to cross over the solid line on a diamond trail. Butttttt, how many people have crossed over the solid line to pass a bicycle going 5 MPH?
If you have, YOU just broke the law. If you don't pass them, there would be a mile long backup of golf carts.

Maybe the law has changed, or that wasn't the law in the first place. On 466A, driving west and turning right into Trailwinds, you have no choice but to cross a solid white line.

[DonH57]

Another thing. It is unlawful to cross over the solid line on a diamond trail. Butttttt, how many people have crossed over the solid line to pass a bicycle going 5 MPH?
If you have, YOU just broke the law. If you don't pass them, there would be a mile long backup of golf carts.

I'm curious. Please state the Florida statute regarding this? I can't find it and every local LEO I've asked told me other wise. I've been here years and passed many even in front of an LEO.You may leave the cart lane to position to make a left hand turn or in a safe manner, with assured distance, and not passing over the 20 MPH pass another golf cart or bicycle. That's the problem with these forums. Wrong information keeps popping up.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I don’t mind folks driving 15mph. Heck, when I get off a sport court and am in no hurry I might tootle along at 15mph. I have no problem with folks driving whatever speed they feel comfortable driving. I just make sure I’m not in their way. Just because I’m in no hurry doesn’t mean that guy coming up behind me isn’t rushing to help a fallen friend or has an important appointment or class or tee time. I just pull over and let them by.

Excellent post, summarizes courtesy and respect of both sides of the situation! :coolsmiley:

[EdFNJ]

Maybe the law has changed, or that wasn't the law in the first place. On 466A, driving west and turning right into Trailwinds, you have no choice but to cross a solid white line. LOL, I think he is referring to a GOLF CART not a car. :D Aside from that I doubt that is a violation. I think all "laws" (if that is indeed a law somewhere) have legit circumstances for logically violating them that wouldn't get you ticketed..

[DaleDivine]

Maybe the law has changed, or that wasn't the law in the first place. On 466A, driving west and turning right into Trailwinds, you have no choice but to cross a solid white line.

There are NO CARTS ALLOWED on 466 or 466A.

[Laker14]

However, to register it is not so simple. If it is a 'low speed vehicle' rather than a 'golf cart,' then besides registration it requires seat belts, insurance, and I can't remember what else. A few years ago I remember speed traps for golf carts; speeding in a golf cart resulted in FIVE tickets, each of which was $250+. I laugh my head off when I see or hear these stories. The golf cart speed limit is 20 MPH. Period.

do you remember if they were writing 5 tickets for $250+ each if the cart was just going a smidge over 19.9mph? If so they must have had a very busy and productive day. So busy and so productive, in fact, that I'd find it very surprising they didn't do it every day. They could repave Buena Vista BLVD every year with the money they'd collect.

[karostay]

Just yesterday i emerged from the tunnel under 466A heading to Brownwood and an A.....Hole flew around me almost taking out 2 carts in the oncoming traffic
Yes I did use the A..Hole word

[BobnBev]

Just yesterday i emerged from the tunnel under 466A heading to Brownwood and an A.....Hole flew around me almost taking out 2 carts in the oncoming traffic
Yes I did use the A..Hole word

Another reason for identifying markings or license plates on golf carts.....flame suit on. :popcorn::boxing2::popcorn::boom:

[bagboy]

There are NO CARTS ALLOWED on 466 or 466A.

OK OK OK, calm down. :Screen_of_Death:
I said no such thing.

[Bay Kid]

Welcome to TOTV. :welcome:

Just yesterday i emerged from the tunnel under 466A heading to Brownwood and an A.....Hole flew around me almost taking out 2 carts in the oncoming traffic
Yes I did use the A..Hole word

Those darn snowbirds won't leave.

[graciegirl]

Another reason for identifying markings or license plates on golf carts.....flame suit on. :popcorn::boxing2::popcorn::boom:

I understand your wish. It is very understandable....BUT

The problem is this; with anything that requires that much paperwork and manpower and oversight, there is bound to be a substantial increase in cost and substantial difficulty in keeping track as thousands of golf carts change hands and some even get stolen. Is it worth the effort in the end? I have a huge amount of skepticism about that.

[wfp113]

Golf cart speeding in the Villages is becoming increasingly worse every day. Just to give an example of the need for a crack down I recently saw a yesteryear cart for sale advertising speed of 45mph+. My cart is set at 22 and every day many carts pass me going a lot faster than 25mph.
Just an opinion.
Bill

[biker1]

This may require some legislative action. If so, I don’t see it happening.


Another reason for identifying markings or license plates on golf carts.....flame suit on. :popcorn::boxing2::popcorn::boom:

[Fuzz323]

Lets face it - there are some folks driving (golf carts and cars) that are half asleep at the wheel. The speed limit is 20 MPH so if you are watching the scenery at 15 mph what is the problem if you are passed by somebody doing the speed limit? Perhaps they are in route to an appointment either with a Doctor or a cold pitcher of tea or any number of reasons. Lighten up - we are all in this together.

I will note that there are some really self righteous comments here - I would bet some of these drivers have NEVER ever exceeded a speed limit - its truly a wonderful thing to be that good. He said with tongue firmly planted in cheek......

[EdFNJ]

Lets face it - there are some folks driving (golf carts and cars) that are half asleep at the wheel. The speed limit is 20 MPH so if you are watching the scenery at 15 mph what is the problem if you are passed by somebody doing the speed limit? Perhaps they are in route to an appointment either with a Doctor or a cold pitcher of tea or any number of reasons. Lighten up - we are all in this together.

I will note that there are some really self righteous comments here - I would bet some of these drivers have NEVER ever exceeded a speed limit - its truly a wonderful thing to be that good. He said with tongue firmly planted in cheek...... Yep and no one seems to complain about the drivers doing 55 mph on Morse or 466A or 50 on local 25/35mph roads. They are probably the same folks complaining about GC's going 22. :D I was behind a guy going 13mph (according to my speedometer) on the Morse Path today. I'm glad he was enjoying the scenery but I've seen it 30000 times and had to take a picked wiss (that's Boston talk).

[Velvet]

Or he had a Lifestyle cart set at 12mph?

[New Englander]

Or he had a Lifestyle cart set at 12mph?

That's a good speed for a golf cart.

[MorTech]

You have varying top speeds set typically at 19.5-23 MPH and some set their own carts to 27 MPH (those people are not the problem). Since gas golf carts have near zero throttle linearity, the accelerator pedal is basically just an on / off switch. See the problem? Just have to live with it.

[BobnBev]

You have varying top speeds set typically at 19.5-23 MPH and some set their own carts to 27 MPH (those people are not the problem). Since gas golf carts have near zero throttle linearity, the accelerator pedal is basically just an on / off switch. See the problem? Just have to live with it.

This post made no sense to me.:ohdear::ohdear:

[Marathon Man]

You have varying top speeds set typically at 19.5-23 MPH and some set their own carts to 27 MPH (those people are not the problem). Since gas golf carts have near zero throttle linearity, the accelerator pedal is basically just an on / off switch. See the problem? Just have to live with it.

Uh. Not mine.

[biker1]

Not my gas cart.

You have varying top speeds set typically at 19.5-23 MPH and some set their own carts to 27 MPH (those people are not the problem). Since gas golf carts have near zero throttle linearity, the accelerator pedal is basically just an on / off switch. See the problem? Just have to live with it.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I can get mine to "just barely move," then "move at a steady pace, probably somewhere around 14mph, and then at top speed, which I believe is just a hair under 20mph.

[Polar Bear]

...Since gas golf carts have near zero throttle linearity, the accelerator pedal is basically just an on / off switch...
And mine makes three. Plus all the other gas carts out there.

Where in the world do you pick up such baseless misinformation?!? (Please don’t try to answer. That was a rhetorical question.)

[MorTech]

Uhhh, having driven them. Where do you think? (uhh, dat waz rhetorical)

YeahYeahYeah, driving a 22 MPH gas cart at 20 MPH is just wonderful...which is why everybody tries to do it.

[BobnBev]

Uhhh, having driven them. Where do you think? (uhh, dat waz rhetorical)

YeahYeahYeah, driving a 22 MPH gas cart at 20 MPH is just wonderful...which is why everybody tries to do it.

Your sarcasm is duly noted. You're welcome. :ohdear::ohdear: