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oldengineer43
05-15-2019, 10:56 AM
Does anyone know what traffic impact will be due to roundabout construction at the junction of Morse Blvd and Warm Springs Ave? This is just south of SR44 on CR468. Traffic moving toward Coleman, Fenney and Southern oaks will be affected. What is the construction schedule?

graciegirl
05-15-2019, 11:00 AM
What do you think the impact will be, Old?

C4Boston
05-15-2019, 01:29 PM
Started construction today, new traffic pattern.

oldengineer43
05-17-2019, 01:44 PM
You said:"What do you think the impact will be, Old?"

I wouldn't be asking if I knew how this would turn out!
I hoped some knowledgeable people could comment on the plans.

You are being nice, right?

I am up north now, but I am concerned about this roundabout as I think it will be the most challenging one in the Villages because of merging two major roadways. I don't when this will be done, but I attached a finding of some construction plans.

flyguy909
05-17-2019, 02:08 PM
I don't think it will be any worse than any of the others. There will 2 bypass lanes, one going south to Warm Springs, and one going north from new Morse to old Morse. So hopefully most of the traffic won't be in the circle.

Midnight Cowgirl
05-17-2019, 02:13 PM
The impact on those that drive it will be the same as all the others.

Since hardly anyone knows how to drive them and no one drives them the same way, there will be accidents.

photo1902
05-17-2019, 02:15 PM
Does anyone know what traffic impact will be due to roundabout construction at the junction of Morse Blvd and Warm Springs Ave? This is just south of SR44 on CR468. Traffic moving toward Coleman, Fenney and Southern oaks will be affected. What is the construction schedule?

Sorry you only received S/A answers so far. Maybe someone will come forward with some actual knowledge and a timeline.

vintageogauge
05-17-2019, 02:44 PM
I wish I was an engineer as I can't even figure out where that will be.

Bogie Shooter
05-17-2019, 02:51 PM
The impact on those that drive it will be the same as all the others.

Since hardly anyone knows how to drive them and no one drives them the same way, there will be accidents.

Accidents happen everywhere......

photo1902
05-17-2019, 03:26 PM
I wish I was an engineer as I can't even figure out where that will be.

Based on the OP's attachment, looks like its just south of the new firestation/customer service office on Morse.

vintageogauge
05-17-2019, 06:05 PM
Thank you.

justjim
05-17-2019, 06:55 PM
The impact on those that drive it will be the same as all the others.

Since hardly anyone knows how to drive them and no one drives them the same way, there will be accidents.

According to traffic “experts” roundabouts can be much safer than traffic lights. A fender binder at 15-20 miles per hour can do less damage/injuries than a 45-50 mile per hour accident at a traffic light.

Polar Bear
05-17-2019, 07:12 PM
According to traffic “experts” roundabouts can be much safer than traffic lights. A fender binder at 15-20 miles per hour can do less damage/injuries than a 45-50 mile per hour accident at a traffic light.
True.

Warranted, we’ll-designed roundabouts are safer and far more efficient than signalized intersections. (Yeah, I’m one of those “experts”. :))

Midnight Cowgirl
05-18-2019, 08:35 PM
According to traffic “experts” roundabouts can be much safer than traffic lights. A fender binder at 15-20 miles per hour can do less damage/injuries than a 45-50 mile per hour accident at a traffic light.

You are correct; I agree with what you've said.

If anyone has ever lived in a town or city that has LARGE traffic circles --usually where more than 4 intersections meet -- they are safe because they are so huge.

The problem here as I see it is because the entrances/exits to them are too close to one another, meaning that the circumference of each circle is too small.

I believe THAT is the main reason for most of the accidents.

dewilson58
05-19-2019, 07:00 AM
You are correct; I agree with what you've said.

If anyone has ever lived in a town or city that has LARGE traffic circles --usually where more than 4 intersections meet -- they are safe because they are so huge.

The problem here as I see it is because the entrances/exits to them are too close to one another, meaning that the circumference of each circle is too small.

I believe THAT is the main reason for most of the accidents.




Close but no cigar...............the opposite is true. The entrances / exits are closer together because of the size of the circle. Double the size of the circle and the entrances / exits will be farther apart. Think what it would be like if the circle circumferences were one mile. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

JoMar
05-19-2019, 12:47 PM
You are correct; I agree with what you've said.

If anyone has ever lived in a town or city that has LARGE traffic circles --usually where more than 4 intersections meet -- they are safe because they are so huge.

The problem here as I see it is because the entrances/exits to them are too close to one another, meaning that the circumference of each circle is too small.

I believe THAT is the main reason for most of the accidents.

The main reason for accidents is people don't know how to drive them and impatience.....yeah, I know, that's two reasons :)

CWGUY
05-19-2019, 12:55 PM
The main reason for accidents is people don't know how to drive them and impatience.....yeah, I know, that's two reasons :)

:agree:

valuemkt
05-19-2019, 04:18 PM
Just drove it this afternoon .. So far much ado about nothing .. South of fire station and sandalwood, it goes down to one lane each way for a very short distance.. Speed limit goes down to 35 then 25 with warnings of double fines .. could always slow down a bit more with dump trucks and construction vehicles ..