Fire hazard in villages homes

[Howie1944]

If your house was built after 2010, and particularly if your house was ever part of The Villages Lifestyle Program, you need to check if there is an emergency light above the inside front door. If so, remove the plastic cover and check if it is a Quantum ELM, or ELM2 model manufactured by Lithonia Lighting or Acuity Brands.
There was A FIRE HAZARD RECALL notice issued by the manufacturer and The Consumer Products Safety Commission in May, 2014. This recall was never communicated to the affected residents by the developer or his electrical contractors.
If your home has one of these lights contact the manufacturer for a replacement circuit board. 800-705-7378.
Catalog Numbers included in recall:

ELM ELM2
ELM CSR ELM2 B
ELM DL ELM2 DL
ELM2 USPOM ELM2 B DL
ELM2 NOM ELM2 220-240V 60HZ
NOTE: The LED, SD (Self Diagnostic), and WRS (Wireless Reporting System) version of this product is not included in the recall.

[graciegirl]

If your house was built after 2010, and particularly if your house was ever part of The Villages Lifestyle Program, you need to check if there is an emergency light above the inside front door. If so, remove the plastic cover and check if it is a Quantum ELM, or ELM2 model manufactured by Lithonia Lighting or Acuity Brands.
There was A FIRE HAZARD RECALL notice issued by the manufacturer and The Consumer Products Safety Commission in May, 2014. This recall was never communicated to the affected residents by the developer or his electrical contractors.
If your home has one of these lights contact the manufacturer for a replacement circuit board. 800-705-7378.
Catalog Numbers included in recall:

ELM ELM2
ELM CSR ELM2 B
ELM DL ELM2 DL
ELM2 USPOM ELM2 B DL
ELM2 NOM ELM2 220-240V 60HZ
NOTE: The LED, SD (Self Diagnostic), and WRS (Wireless Reporting System) version of this product is not included in the recall.

I have NEVER seen a white, utilitarian flashing light like this installed by the front door or anywhere in any of the Villages homes I have visited. Have you???

[redwitch]

Gracie, the patio villas have them.

[Howie1944]

Yes I have and it's in my house. And EVERY courtyard villa in The Eleanor Villas, and many others. Just because you personally haven't seen one doesn't mean they don't exist.

[New Englander]

Gracie, the patio villas have them.

My Patio Villa doesn't have one.

[photo1902]

I believe egress lighting is required by codeine commercial buildings, for rental units, such as the Lifestyle Program, etc.

I don't believe it is required in the case of a house/villa/etc, simply being built after 2010, which is not intended for one of the purposes listed above.

My house, built in 2014, does not have one.

[eweissenbach]

If your house was built after 2010, and particularly if your house was ever part of The Villages Lifestyle Program, you need to check if there is an emergency light above the inside front door. If so, remove the plastic cover and check if it is a Quantum ELM, or ELM2 model manufactured by Lithonia Lighting or Acuity Brands.
There was A FIRE HAZARD RECALL notice issued by the manufacturer and The Consumer Products Safety Commission in May, 2014. This recall was never communicated to the affected residents by the developer or his electrical contractors.
If your home has one of these lights contact the manufacturer for a replacement circuit board. 800-705-7378.
Catalog Numbers included in recall:

ELM ELM2
ELM CSR ELM2 B
ELM DL ELM2 DL
ELM2 USPOM ELM2 B DL
ELM2 NOM ELM2 220-240V 60HZ
NOTE: The LED, SD (Self Diagnostic), and WRS (Wireless Reporting System) version of this product is not included in the recall.

As they say, "No good deed goes unpunished". :shocked:

[villagetinker]

OP, perhaps you can contact the fire department and they can do safety checks like they do for fire/smoke detectors. At lease get them the info, as they may be able to trace which homes have this equipment.
On a side note, thank you for pointing this out.

[Howie1944]

Perhaps you should read my post more thoroughly. Note that I specifically mentioned The Lifestyle Program. That fact that you are not affected doesn't negate the warning one iota.

[graciegirl]

I still do not think it was a cover-up or a willful exclusion of negative facts.

Here is what I found.

Lithonia Lighting Recalls Emergency Lights | CPSC.gov (https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2014/lithonia-lighting-recalls-emergency-lights/)

I am sorry I seemed skeptical. I truly hope that all of them have now been removed or repaired. I think calling the Fire Department to check is a very good suggestion.

[VJBama]

I can't find any reference to building code requirements for one for a rental. Can you?


You are wrong. Here is one of dozens of sites which make this extremely clear.

Stick to something that you know before you bash someone who is helping others.
Florida Vacation Rental 101 (https://www.tripsavvy.com/vacation-rental-basics-1513727)

[dnobles]

I have NEVER seen a white, utilitarian flashing light like this installed by the front door or anywhere in any of the Villages homes I have visited. Have you???

If you rented your house out through Hometown Propriety Management, an emergency light was required. We installed one.

[dewilson58]

You are wrong. Here is one of dozens of sites which make this extremely clear.

Stick to something that you know before you bash someone who is helping others.
Florida Vacation Rental 101 (https://www.tripsavvy.com/vacation-rental-basics-1513727)




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I agree with Tink, check with the FD.

[photo1902]

If you rented your house out through Hometown Propriety Management, an emergency light was required. We installed one.

Not to mention the multitude of other real estate companies who list rental properties for owners. This is not something new.

[Howie1944]

You must be dreaming. The one thing that the developer avoids by ANY means is bad news. Do you think that I haven't notified the developer several times with no action being taken? If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, then it's a duck. This "oversight" was definitely intentional.

[Howie1944]

The developer knows exactly what homes have these fire hazards. The fire department does not. Don't you think that the developer has a moral, ethical, and legal obligation to do everything in his power to notify those residents at risk? God forbid there is any injury from a fire caused by one of these units. In that case the developer would be criminality negligent.

[Howie1944]

You are wrong. Here is one of dozens of sites which make this extremely clear.

Stick to something that you know before you bash someone who is helping others.
Florida Vacation Rental 101 (https://www.tripsavvy.com/vacation-rental-basics-1513727)

Thank you.

[photo1902]

You must be dreaming. The one thing that the developer avoids by ANY means is bad news. Do you think that I haven't notified the developer several times with no action being taken? If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, then it's a duck. This "oversight" was definitely intentional.

So by your logic, the "developer" is responsible for notifying every single homeowner when any item which was installed in the home is recalled? You're kidding, right?

[villagetinker]

There are many similar situations, for example, a relative lives in a mobile home, while investigating a wiring problem I found well over 50% of the wires were loose in the switches or receptacles. As it turns out this particular brand had been recalled bu UL as a fire hazard, but there was no way of notifying all of the effected people. I actually called UL directly when I found the problem, and they explained the situation to me. This appears to be a similar situation, while we did get a listing of the materials in our house (we built), in discussion with home warranty I got the impression that this data is on an old system, as they could not get me another copy when I lost my original one. I am guessing that home warranty my not be able to actually search their system to provide a list homes with these devices. On the other hand the sales department should have a list of homes that were previously leased or rented out and could send out postcards to the current owners.
Unfortunately there are so many similar situations where the current owners cannot be notified (car seats, strollers, air bags to name a few).
I do not have any additional ideas other than my original one to give the info to the fire department, and they may be able to do something.

[Fraugoofy]

I have NEVER seen a white, utilitarian flashing light like this installed by the front door or anywhere in any of the Villages homes I have visited. Have you???Yes. They are in both of my Villages homes, which were both in The Villages Lifestyle Program in 2005 and 2006.

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[JimJohnson]

You are wrong. Here is one of dozens of sites which make this extremely clear.

Stick to something that you know before you bash someone who is helping others.
Florida Vacation Rental 101 (https://www.tripsavvy.com/vacation-rental-basics-1513727)

Thank you for this. Discouraging those that help can be dangerous.

This thread was made to inform residents of a possible problem.
Some took that as an attack on the developer.
Evidence posts made with evidence to prove the problem exits.
Some still shout fake news in an attempt to cover it up.

Point: We posters on TOTV should/must help each other and not the developer, especially when it comes to safety. I personally love The Villages and give sincere thanks to the developer for this wonderful place, but I find residents security and safety far out way the profits of the Developer.

Thank you TOTV for this valuable public web site.