Can we say it now?

[Guest]

Now that the leader of a despotic nation has been invited to speak before congress only to bring about a standing ovation from most democrats over his trashing of our country, can we say it now that most democrats in congress are not very loyal Americans?

What can be said of those who voted for them?

God help America

Yoda

[Guest]

The Mexico President bad mouths the Arizona law while Democrats give him a stand up cheer.

The lie and stupidity of all this is over the top.

The Federal law on illegals was tested at the highest court in the land and found to be constitutional. The law is not enforced by the Feds.

The Arizona law removed the provision of the Federal law that allows
stopping suspected illegals and asking for their ID's without any reason.

The lies come in to play when Obama and the now sheepish Democrats also bad mouth the Arizona law when it is less severe than the Federal law they passed themselves.

My God how corrupt have these Democrats become.

Jesus would say: God forgive them for they know not what they do.

I say: lets kick the bast***s all out in November.:wave:

[Guest]

I've said it before. I'll say it again. Take a look at the Progressive agenda. Then look at how many members in Congress are open Progressives.

These are just the ones honest enough to admit who they are and what their agenda is all about. There are others who work and side with these socialists and are afraid they won't get re-elected if they admit it openly.

From the PDA website: "PDA Inside-Outside Strategy

"We will reach our goal by working inside the Democratic Party to return it to its roots as the party that represents the workers and the less fortunate, and by building coalitions outside the Democratic Party on shared issues.

"By establishing chapters in all 435 congressional districts, we are creating an information and action conduit that allows us to effectively organize in response to or in support of congressional actions.

"We work with the Congressional Progressive Caucus to support and bring forward progressive legislation on the core issues identified by our PDA chapters."


http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?ContentID=166&ParentID=0&SectionID=4&SectionTree=4&lnk=b&ItemID=164


http://pdamerica.org/about/strategy.php

http://sovereignty.net/center/socialists.htm

[Guest]

This is the absolute worst shape our country has been in prior to WW 2, and I for one, will be surprised if it does not take another war to bring us out of this state of depression self caused by these supposedly know it all's in the White House who have never held a job let alone such responsive positions. May God protect each and every one of us from THEM!

[Guest]

This is the absolute worst shape our country has been in prior to WW 2, and I for one, will be surprised if it does not take another war to bring us out of this state of depression self caused by these supposedly know it all's in the White House who have never held a job let alone such responsive positions. May God protect each and every one of us from THEM!

It really borders on the edge of being beyond belief.

This man continues to criticize Bush, yet continues most of his policies relative to the war on terrorism. He is quietly putting into place things that will affect us for a long long time. He refuses to answer to us...never has a open uncontrolled press conference. He preaches to us, does not lead. He feels there is only one way to do things..his.

In his life, he has always been a politician..nothing else as you point out. He was trained and made ready by far left groups and training !

[Guest]

Now that the leader of a despotic nation has been invited to speak before congress only to bring about a standing ovation from most democrats over his trashing of our country, can we say it now that most democrats in congress are not very loyal Americans?

What can be said of those who voted for them?

God help America

Yoda

Hoodwinked, snookered, and/or sublimely uninformed come to mind.

[Guest]

Jesus would say: God forgive them for they know not what they do.


Jesus wouldn't be kicking poor people out who were only looking for work to feed themselves and their families.

Violent crime is a different matter entirely, but statistics show that most illegals just try to keep under the radar so they can work.

[Guest]

Jesus wouldn't be kicking poor people out who were only looking for work to feed themselves and their families.

Violent crime is a different matter entirely, but statistics show that most illegals just try to keep under the radar so they can work.

You obviously missed my point. So whats new.

[Guest]

Actually it seems pretty simple, illegals are just that - illegal. By definition they are criminals. Peaceful or not! Is it really so tough to accept that those here illegally should be expelled from this country?

[Guest]

I absolutely agree with deporting them. That's puts me at odds with what Jesus would 'most likely do'.

Yes, invoking Jesus is a hot button for me. Not for the reasons you might think.

[Guest]

I absolutely agree with deporting them. That's puts me at odds with what Jesus would 'most likely do'.

Yes, invoking Jesus is a hot button for me. Not for the reasons you might think.

Just to keep the record straight...as I read it the original Jesus note in this thread was in reference to the Democratic party NOT immigrants !

[Guest]

Oh I know that - but it was for Jesus to forgive the Democrats for not deporting/kicking out aliens.

[Guest]

Oh I know that - but it was for Jesus to forgive the Democrats for not deporting/kicking out aliens.

Why don't you go back and read what I said.

You are not understanding it.

[Guest]

Oh I know that - but it was for Jesus to forgive the Democrats for not deporting/kicking out aliens.

Don't you think that they should be?

Yoda

[Guest]

I absolutely agree with deporting them. That's puts me at odds with what Jesus would 'most likely do'.

Yes, invoking Jesus is a hot button for me. Not for the reasons you might think.

Jesus taught two things relative to this in the book of Matthew:

First in Matthew 22-21 he taught us to ...“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” What this teaches us is that we are to obey the laws of the nation in which we reside or are visiting. While there are often reason to protest or disagree with the law, the responsibility falls on the individual. We need to live within the law or work to change it.

Second in Matthew 25 he taught us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and so on. What most people tend to miss is this again is an individual responsibility. Paying your taxes and asking the government to do it does not fulfill your responsibility - this is simply rendering unto Caesar. Equally, putting money in the collection plate does not fulfill this responsibility. Passively sitting by and letting others do what needs to be done is not his way. You need to do it yourself.

If you want to help an illegal and his/her family, that is your business and between you and God so long as they have returned to where they live legally and start working to obtain legal entry to this country. Millions do it every year.

I will now leave any discussion of religion. The political forum already has enough to discuss.