New law - vegetable home gardens OK

[ColdNoMore]

Corn, cabbage and soybeans..Oh My! (till here) (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-towns-can-no-longer-ban-residential-vegetable-gardens/)

Florida towns that outlawed home vegetable gardens for "aesthetic purposes" can no longer do so starting July 1.

So says a new state law that comes after a couple in Miami Shores Village unsuccessfully contested in Florida's courts a $50 a day fine for growing vegetables in their front yard, as they'd done for years

A 600-square-foot garden that costs around $70 a year to cultivate can grow 300 pounds of fresh produce worth about $600 annually, the National Gardening Association estimates.


A new topic to knock 'dog poop' off...as the leading complaint? :popcorn:

[Arctic Fox]

I'll be keeping a few goats, too - I hope they're allowed?

[karostay]

Great Now the White Cross Trolls will become Carrot Cops :police:

[TVMayor]

But, you can only water 2 days a week, right.

[ColdNoMore]

Great Now the White Cross Trolls will become Carrot Cops :police:

"Carrot Cops." :1rotfl:

[Topspinmo]

But, you can only water 2 days a week, right.

No, you can water with hose or sprinkler can all you want

[dewilson58]

No, you can water with hose or sprinkler can all you want




& pets can water at will.

[anothersteve]

front yard vegetable gardens - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=front+yard+vegetable+gardens&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjonKGJmJHjAhUIw1kKHf1qDYQQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=580)

Steve

[DonH57]

Now I can plant my herbs!

[stan the man]

I'll be keeping a few goats, too - I hope they're allowed?

If they are support animals -yes

[leftyf]

I would like to have a few chickens

[tophcfa]

Corn, cabbage and soybeans..Oh My! (till here) (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-towns-can-no-longer-ban-residential-vegetable-gardens/)


A new topic to knock 'dog poop' off...as the leading complaint? :popcorn:

The front yard vegetable gardens can get free dog poop fertilizer treatments!

[Villageswimmer]

front yard vegetable gardens - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=front+yard+vegetable+gardens&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjonKGJmJHjAhUIw1kKHf1qDYQQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=580)

Steve


Thanks for the link. Some very beautiful gardens! The key is maintenance.

[manaboutown]

Wasn't the prehistoric section built in what had been a watermelon field?

Heck, herbs such as rosemary and dill, tomatoes, carrots and lettuce would be nice. Watermelon, zucchini and cucumbers. Yum.

[LuckyS]

Wildwood Weed will blend in nicely...

Wildwood Weed (Jim Stafford) w/ lyrics - YouTube (https://youtu.be/xyjlxIcu8AM)

[l2ridehd]

I have had rosemary as shrubs for years. They grow to be about 3 feet high and 3 feet around and make a really nice very fragrant addition to your landscape. When I trim them I fill a lawn yard waste bag with the clippings. I have tried to give it away with no success. For those that like to use rosemary, it is very easy to grow and maintain, needs very little water and no fertilizer. And will provide you with more rosemary than you will ever be able to use.

[Two Bills]

I give it a season before the grass is back down.
Good veg is hard work!

[DonH57]

Wildwood Weed will blend in nicely...

Wildwood Weed (Jim Stafford) w/ lyrics - YouTube (https://youtu.be/xyjlxIcu8AM)

Yes, Yes. It would indeed!:coolsmiley:

[manaboutown]

If an enclosure to protect your plants such as a fence and chicken wire is prohibited one problem may be critters getting to the veggies before you can.

[New Englander]

& pets can water at will.

That's why the crops taste funny.

[BamaBoy451]

Well. Sharlene and I are just happy as all get out. Ready to plant taters, corn, and beans but some say ya have to change some soil first.Dang.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I was planning on having a perennial herb garden on the side of the house from the get-go. The deed restrictions never forbade that anyway. Meanwhile, there's no reason why you should have to expect people growing corn and watermelons on their front lawn. Why? Here's why:

1. Soil is lousy for that in the Villages.
2. Irrigation is equally lousy for that in the Villages.
3. The deed restrictions can be altered to say "yes you can grow veggies but they still can't be more than 3 feet high, they still have to be maintained, you still can't put up fencing around them, you still can't plant decorative ornaments or signs on your lawn or in the front flowerbed (meaning, no plastic tags that identify what plants are growing in which rows of the garden). You still have to go through ARC to get a permit for a raised bed, which they can still deny.

So sure put up those corn stalks. Just make sure to cut them down before they grow more than 3 feet tall. You won't ever yield any actual corn, but hey - you want to see how close to the limit you can get without getting fined, have at it.

Honestly, not worried at all. There are plenty of veggies that are decorative AND useful (various cabbages and lettuces, peas, and root vegetables that have flowering tops). There was never anything stopping anyone from growing tomato plants in pots. And herb gardens were never verboten so you can keep planting those.

[thelegges]

I give it a season before the grass is back down.
Good veg is hard work!

Not really, we have been growing all our herbs, lettuce and such in our flower pots for years. It’s not hard work if you love what you are doing. North our garden is larger than my lot here

[Arctic Fox]

If an enclosure to protect your plants such as a fence and chicken wire is prohibited one problem may be critters getting to the veggies before you can.

the raccoon got our pineapples :-(

[EdFNJ]

This was the best part of the article linked in the OP: "After the Florida Supreme Court ruled in favor of Miami Shores' right to control design and landscaping standards, the couple replaced their vegetables with pink flamingos." That wouldn't fly here either. :D (pun intended).

The only thing I can grow successfully are weeds.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

This was the best part of the article linked in the OP: "After the Florida Supreme Court ruled in favor of Miami Shores' right to control design and landscaping standards, the couple replaced their vegetables with pink flamingos." That wouldn't fly here either. :D (pun intended).

The only thing I can grow successfully are weeds.

...also known as Bermuda Grass

[thelegges]

The new green houses are moving right along. Hopefully produce will be available by the fall to residents. Maybe the tomato’s will be better than what we grow here. North they are fabulous, here same plant seed, samedirt, and no flavor here. But everything else I grow here is great

[ColdNoMore]

...also known as Bermuda Grass

Actually, St. Augustine grass fits the description of a "weed"...much better than Bermuda.

Bermuda is used for a lot of golf greens, where I doubt anyone can find a course of any decency using St. Augustine...for anything. :shrug:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Actually, St. Augustine grass fits the description of a "weed"...much better than Bermuda.

Bermuda is used for a lot of golf greens, where I doubt anyone can find a course of any decency using St. Augustine...for anything. :shrug:

Well, it's green. So if you really love green, St. Augustine is great. Except when it's brown. But then, brown is a nice color too. I'm thinking I might rip up the entire lawn and lay down a nice big roll of astroturf. It'd look the exact same as St. Augustine, Bermuda, and Zoysia, with no maintenance, no mowing, no pesticides, no nuttin. Plus the dogs won't be able to dig it up and you can just hose it down if the neighbor refuses to bring a poop bag when he takes Fido for a walk.

[ColdNoMore]

Well, it's green. So if you really love green, St. Augustine is great. Except when it's brown. But then, brown is a nice color too. I'm thinking I might rip up the entire lawn and lay down a nice big roll of astroturf. It'd look the exact same as St. Augustine, Bermuda, and Zoysia, with no maintenance, no mowing, no pesticides, no nuttin. Plus the dogs won't be able to dig it up and you can just hose it down if the neighbor refuses to bring a poop bag when he takes Fido for a walk.

Add a couple of pink flamingos and a white cross...and it's perfect! :D

[EdFNJ]

Actually, St. Augustine grass fits the description of a "weed"...much better than Bermuda.

Bermuda is used for a lot of golf greens, where I doubt anyone can find a course of any decency using St. Augustine...for anything. :shrug:


We had our garage & driveway "stretched" 4 feet and they planted that St Augustine from H3LL grass on the side of our house because that was pretty much all the contractor could find in January (read that as find c-h-e-a-p). It looks like an over 55 condominium community for fire-ants.

[ColdNoMore]

We had our garage & driveway "stretched" 4 feet and they planted that St Augustine from H3LL grass on the side of our house because that was pretty much all the contractor could find in January (read that as find c-h-e-a-p). It looks like an over 55 condominium community for fire-ants.

From my personal observations all over Florida, it seems St. Augustine is the 'go-to' type of grass...for most homes/neighborhoods down here.

Which makes some sense, given that it is a very hardy...weed. :D

[EdFNJ]

From my personal observations all over Florida, it seems St. Augustine is the 'go-to' type of grass...for most homes/neighborhoods down here.

Which makes some sense, given that it is a very hardy...weed. :D




Yuch ... they should send it back to St Augustine.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Great Now the White Cross Trolls will become Carrot Cops :police:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Colts Fan]

I’m pretty sure the large rabbit population in our neighborhood lobbied heavily for this law.

[big guy]

The front yard vegetable gardens can get free dog poop fertilizer treatments!

The use of meat eating animal waste is not recommended for a vegetable garden.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The use of meat eating animal waste is not recommended for a vegetable garden.

Chickens are omnivores. They eat grain, some vegetables, insects, bugs, worms, small snakes, small lizards, and even mice. Chicken manure is one of -the- most appropriate natural fertilizers for organic vegetable gardens.

[Chi-Town]

Dog poop out...chicken s** t in. We're evolving. [emoji6]

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[CFrance]

I'll be keeping a few goats, too - I hope they're allowed?
Goats are cuter than tomatoes.:icon_wink:

[karostay]

Now I can plant my herbs!

Sativa and Indica ? :coolsmiley:

[Bay Kid]

No more grass cutting!!! Corn year round!

[bonrich]

Wait until the "mow, blow, and go" guys come through.

[Fishers2tall]

Sativa and Indica ? :coolsmiley:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[aninjamom]

I have had rosemary as shrubs for years. They grow to be about 3 feet high and 3 feet around and make a really nice very fragrant addition to your landscape. When I trim them I fill a lawn yard waste bag with the clippings. I have tried to give it away with no success. For those that like to use rosemary, it is very easy to grow and maintain, needs very little water and no fertilizer. And will provide you with more rosemary than you will ever be able to use.

I was startled one day to realize that there are large beds of rosemary being used as landscaping in the parking lot of Sumter Landing! The one behind the Starbucks and on the other side of the covered parking. My husband pointed out that it's probably sprayed with chemicals though.

[sallybowron]

"Now I can plant my herbs!" I can plant mine as well.

[Shimpy]

From my personal observations all over Florida, it seems St. Augustine is the 'go-to' type of grass...for most homes/neighborhoods down here.

Which makes some sense, given that it is a very hardy...weed. :D




St Augustine was developed by the University of Florida, Gainesville to be suitable to Florida soil and climate. It's the only grass I ever had till moving to TV 9 years ago. It sure beats Zoysia as far as not needing watering as often and will spread to cover bare spots.

[EdFNJ]

St Augustine was developed by the University of Florida, Gainesville to be suitable to Florida soil and climate. It's the only grass I ever had till moving to TV 9 years ago. It sure beats Zoysia as far as not needing watering as often and will spread to cover bare spots. As well as spread and cover your neighbor's "well manicured" newly sodded lawn. :D It grows, errrr, ummm, like weeds! :)

[NatureBoy]

Here's the text of the law (https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/82/BillText/er/HTML):
201982er
1
2 An act relating to vegetable gardens; creating s.
3 604.71, F.S.; providing legislative intent;
4 prohibiting local governments from regulating
5 vegetable gardens on residential properties except as
6 otherwise provided by law; specifying that such
7 regulations are void and unenforceable; specifying
8 exceptions; providing applicability; defining the term
9 “vegetable garden”; providing an effective date.
10
11 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
12
13 Section 1. Section 604.71, Florida Statutes, is created to
14 read:
15 604.71 Local regulation of vegetable gardens.—
16 (1) The Legislature intends to encourage the development of
17 sustainable cultivation of vegetables and fruits at all levels
18 of production, including for personal consumption, as an
19 important interest of the state.
20 (2) Except as otherwise provided by law, a county,
21 municipality, or other political subdivision of this state may
22 not regulate vegetable gardens on residential properties. Any
23 such local ordinance or regulation regulating vegetable gardens
24 on residential properties is void and unenforceable.
25 (3) This section does not preclude the adoption of a local
26 ordinance or regulation of a general nature that does not
27 specifically regulate vegetable gardens, including, but not
28 limited to, regulations and ordinances relating to water use
29 during drought conditions, fertilizer use, or control of
30 invasive species.
31 (4) As used in this section, the term “vegetable garden”
32 means a plot of ground where herbs, fruits, flowers, or
33 vegetables are cultivated for human ingestion.
34 Section 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2019.

[427dave]

Oh boy now I can have fresh sweet corn and okra. :)

[Bogie Shooter]

Why go to all that trouble when we will soon have this?
Life in The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/life/july-vmail-the-villages-grown/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VE1907&utm_source=vmail)

[CWGUY]

Why go to all that trouble when we will soon have this?
Life in The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/life/july-vmail-the-villages-grown/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VE1907&utm_source=vmail)

:coolsmiley: Right in our "Back" yard!

[tophcfa]

Sativa and Indica ? :coolsmiley:

I am thinking of hemp plants. No THC, only CBD for the aching joints, and it's legal.

[Two Bills]

Why go to all that trouble when we will soon have this?
Life in The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/life/july-vmail-the-villages-grown/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VE1907&utm_source=vmail)

Food that never sees soil, but fed water and chemicals to grow? No thanks.
I will pay a few $'s more for organic.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Food that never sees soil, but fed water and chemicals to grow? No thanks.
I will pay a few $'s more for organic.

I guess you don't understand that everything organic - is chemical. Nitrogen, which is the substance you need when you're adding fertilizer - is chemical. You can use chicken poop, horse manure, bag guano, or isolated nitrogen granules. The nitrogen in the natural sources is the exact same nitrogen that's in the granules. Nature doesn't distinguish between the two.

Your body is composed of chemical components. Your spit, your breath, your waste, your blood, your flesh - it's all just a bunch of carbon molecules mixed together to form chemical reactions, which in turn create the finished product you know as your body.

Organic chemistry is fascinating.

As for me, I'd rather grow my own, if practical and cost-efficient. Not because it's cheaper, but because I just absolutely love the idea of grabbing a tomato off the plant right outside my own front door if I feel like eating a tomato.

[Villageswimmer]

Why go to all that trouble when we will soon have this?
Life in The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/life/july-vmail-the-villages-grown/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VE1907&utm_source=vmail)


I haven’t seen any info with respect to how this will affect the Farmers Markets. We’ve gotten to know several of the farmers—hard working, honest folks. I hope this won’t negatively affect their businesses.

[thelegges]

Don’t understand why people think that growing veggies is hard work. I spend maybe 10 minutes a Day with what I grow.

[pauld315]

I will never do it. When my wife and I first got married almost 37 years ago my wife wanted a garden.I told her I would help her get it going but I really didn't want one and after it was planted it was up to her. She agreed whole heartedly. Dutifully, I went out and rented a tiller, tilled the plot of land she wanted, went out and bought plants or seeds depending on what she wanted to plant. Helped her plant it with the understanding it was her baby and then proceeded a few months later to till it all back and plant grass. She wanted it but didn't want to take care of it. It went to weeds pretty quickly. I said I would never plant another one and save our marriage ! We have planted one or two tomato plants off our back deck since then but never another garden.

[tophcfa]

I haven’t seen any info with respect to how this will affect the Farmers Markets. We’ve gotten to know several of the farmers—hard working, honest folks. I hope this won’t negatively affect their businesses.

Do you mean the farmers market that USED TO BE IN SPANISH SPRINGS?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The farmer's market I went to last, in the Villages, was so-so. Some of the stuff wasn't local, and not even grown in the USA at all. The tomatoes were in their original boxes that stated clearly they came from Mexico.

[queasy27]

Oh boy now I can have fresh sweet corn and okra. :)

The first time I ate corn and beets picked from the garden and put right into boiling water was a revelation!

[Villageswimmer]

The farmer's market I went to last, in the Villages, was so-so. Some of the stuff wasn't local, and not even grown in the USA at all. The tomatoes were in their original boxes that stated clearly they came from Mexico.


We go to the one in Brownwood every week. Most, not all, of the farmers are local. We’re careful about what we buy and we get top quality produce. Sorry you had a bad experience but be careful not to bad mouth these farmers. They work very hard and we’re happy to support them as are many other Villagers.

[Bogie Shooter]

I haven’t seen any info with respect to how this will affect the Farmers Markets. We’ve gotten to know several of the farmers—hard working, honest folks. I hope this won’t negatively affect their businesses.

In the link I posted this is discussed in the video. TV is partnering with these local farmers.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We go to the one in Brownwood every week. Most, not all, of the farmers are local. We’re careful about what we buy and we get top quality produce. Sorry you had a bad experience but be careful not to bad mouth these farmers. They work very hard and we’re happy to support them as are many other Villagers.

I'm sure the farmers are local. I'm sure their farms are local. But that doesn't mean 100% of what they bring to the market was grown on their farm. You'd be surprised at how much stuff brought to a Farmer's Market by local farmers came from somewhere else.

This isn't really news, or any kind of secret. Up north it's common knowledge. If you are buying produce that doesn't normally grow in that area during the time of year you're showing up to buy at that market, you can assume that a significant percentage of that item was not grown at their farm.

They bring it in to fill out the table and offer customers a broader variety than if they ONLY showed up with whatever they can pull out of the soil that week.

[karostay]

I am thinking of hemp plants. No THC, only CBD for the aching joints, and it's legal.

All is legal in Maine Mass Vermont more to come

[thelegges]

We go to the one in Brownwood every week. Most, not all, of the farmers are local. We’re careful about what we buy and we get top quality produce. Sorry you had a bad experience but be careful not to bad mouth these farmers. They work very hard and we’re happy to support them as are many other Villagers.

When you shop TVs farmers market their sign will proudly say grown on their farm. Everything else comes from a commercial market and brought in for you to purchase. It’s not bad mouthing the local farmers that only bring from their farm only. Its pointing out multiple venders are not farm to table, but just produce trucked in from elsewhere

[Villageswimmer]

When you shop TVs farmers market their sign will proudly say grown on their farm. Everything else comes from a commercial market and brought in for you to purchase. It’s not bad mouthing the local farmers that only bring from their farm only. Its pointing out multiple venders are not farm to table, but just produce trucked in from elsewhere


Agree.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

When you shop TVs farmers market their sign will proudly say grown on their farm. Everything else comes from a commercial market and brought in for you to purchase. It’s not bad mouthing the local farmers that only bring from their farm only. Its pointing out multiple venders are not farm to table, but just produce trucked in from elsewhere

Exactly. It's important for the consumer to know that if they're expecting to "buy local" it might not mean what they think it means.

There are some assumptions you can make, when buying at a farmer's market:

1. There are only a limited number of items that are actually "in season." Even in Florida where the temperatures are usually warm all year round.

2. Anything that isn't specifically "in season" will NOT be "farm to table" produce. It will be hothouse/hydroponic produced, or imported from elsewhere. Or both. There's nothing wrong with hothouse, hydroponic, or imported produce, in my opinion. But I wouldn't go out of my way to visit a farmer's market for that. I can get all of that during my weekly supermarket trip.

3. No matter which dirt or container the produce was pulled from, you have no way of knowing which pesticides and fertilizers were used in their growing. Unless the vendor specifies that their produce is certified organic, assume that it isn't.

[Bay Kid]

Fresh fish!

[UpNorth]

I'm not sure what the current deal is, but there is a growing area for villagers behind the woodworking shop on Rolling Acres. I don't know what they grow there or what the arrangements are, but it sure would be a good idea to provide space for hobby gardeners to grow some crops. Plenty of land around. Nothing better than good home grown vegetables compared to the supermarket variety.

[mulligan]

Use your search button. This has been discussed at length, and accomplished on a fairly large scale.

[tophcfa]

With the amount of pesticides and hebacides dumped on people's lawns, I would not consume anything grown in that soil. For the same reason, I would also never consider eating a fish caught in one of the local ponds where all the storm run-off collects.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Use your search button. This has been discussed at length, and accomplished on a fairly large scale.

I searched "growing area behind woodworking shop" and "Rolling Acres growing area" in ToTV, and came up with this thread and the post above yours. Also a thread about development in 2008, and a couple of threads about the growing areas - meaning, the areas that are growing as opposed to areas designated for growing things that grow.

I did a google search and found several sites about Rolling Acres apartments.

Perhaps if you were to offer useful information so people know which keywords to enter, if they wish to find this at-length large-scale discussion, that might be useful.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

With the amount of pesticides and hebacides dumped on people's lawns, I would not consume anything grown in that soil. For the same reason, I would also never consider eating a fish caught in one of the local ponds where all the storm run-off collects.

Raised beds and potted plants are great to remedy this problem. Given that most homes are required to have grass-like cover such as zoysia, st. andrews, and bermuda, I don't think there's any way out of using herbicides.

But for people who are allowed to use something other than (what the rest of the civilized world knows as weeds) the above, you could replace all of that ground cover with shrubs, stone, and natural mulch, local flowers and perennial herbs, and use diatomaceous earth to keep the bugs out. A fully organic yard, 100% suitable for growing edibles.

[Bogie Shooter]

I searched "growing area behind woodworking shop" and "Rolling Acres growing area" in ToTV, and came up with this thread and the post above yours. Also a thread about development in 2008, and a couple of threads about the growing areas - meaning, the areas that are growing as opposed to areas designated for growing things that grow.

I did a google search and found several sites about Rolling Acres apartments.

Perhaps if you were to offer useful information so people know which keywords to enter, if they wish to find this at-length large-scale discussion, that might be useful.

Here ya go, TOTV search.....rolling acres garden
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/community-gardens-94378/?highlight=Rolling+acres+garden
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/shared-harvest-community-garden-12569/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/can-i-still-have-vegetable-garden-111910/?highlight=Rolling+acres+garden

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Here ya go, TOTV search.....rolling acres garden
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/community-gardens-94378/?highlight=Rolling+acres+garden
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/shared-harvest-community-garden-12569/
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/can-i-still-have-vegetable-garden-111910/?highlight=Rolling+acres+garden

Ah so then the summary answer to the question of a community garden with a literal (not just the name of the endeavor) shared harvest is: it has been discussed, somewhat, between 2008 and 2014, and has never been successfully implemented at all.

The garden near Rolling Acres was not a literal shared harvest, it was a charitable endeavor. People working on that garden were doing it on behalf of charity, not for their own consumption.

Thanks for the links.

[edd.wade]

The next time I get a notification about my sand crane in my flower bed I just might plant corn in the front yard.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The next time I get a notification about my sand crane in my flower bed I just might plant corn in the front yard.

:bigbow:

[SandeBeach57]

By the time a person removes their expensive sod, adds topsoil and fertilizer, then buys and plants their vegetables, each tomato is going to cost big bucks. The water bill will sky rocket as well. Good luck with THAT idea.

[SandeBeach57]

Y the time you remove the expensive sod, add topsoil and fertilizer, insecticide, plus all the plants, each tomato, pepper, etc will cost you a fortune. Now, add additional water to this equation and it would make a lot more sense to buy fresh vegetables at a farmers market or grocery store.

[thelegges]

By the time a person removes their expensive sod, adds topsoil and fertilizer, then buys and plants their vegetables, each tomato is going to cost big bucks. The water bill will sky rocket as well. Good luck with THAT idea.

I know the expenses are outrageous. Raised bed require little removal of sod if any. Dirt was $20, seeds free, since I use heirloom seeds, from prior crop. Overwatering causes root rot so less then watering lawn. I get about 100 pounds of veggies in a 3x4’ raised box. Initial cost about $28, for first crop, after that it’s pretty much free. But then again I had my first raised bed at age 3.

[dewilson58]

Much to do about nothing.

[Maybelle]

I'm all for it. Enjoying our back yard garden. Didn't think it was a problem to anyone.

[vagent711]

One of the reasons I bought here was the curb appeal of the manicured lawns. I understood the deed restrictions and that gave me confidence that the continuity would always be there. Had I wanted to grow vegetables or have a multi-species yard I would have picked another community in which to live. Forcing communities to change the restrictions they agreed to when The purchased is ill conceived. I am disappointed in the lawmakers that allowed this to become law

[bilcon]

I can't wait. Next year I can have a corn Maze for Holloween in my front yard and invite all the Camp Villages Kids over to run through the Maze. WEEEEEEE! OMG! Maybe we can hide some junk cars in the maze also, or a couple of old bathtubs. What happened to backyards?

[bilcon]

I'm all for it. Enjoying our back yard garden. Didn't think it was a problem to anyone.

We are not talking about back yard gardens. The law says you can plant a front yard garden. Seriously?:faint:

[Judy n Ron]

So all the residents that spent thousands putting in landscaping and then let the weeds take over will be legal. Remember the Munsters!

[Ljbair]

Some much for CATUS HOUSE! That will look nice now!

[anothersteve]

Jeez people, I don't think anyone will be planting a front yard farm. Give it a break and see what happens. Do some searching on "front yard farms" and see for yourselves.
Steve

[JSR22]

Some much for CATUS HOUSE! That will look nice now!

I live close to the house with the cactus garden in the back yard. I enjoy looking at it and find it interesting.

[coconutmama]

Agree.

[stan the man]

I'm just thankful that the state didn't pass a law that says that white crosses are allowed in front yards. There would be yards in the villages that would look like the national cemetery. With rows and rows of white Crosses. We would have Crosses as large as the original one.I would rather see some tomato plants rather than some yucca plants.They're all different kinds of lettuce, all different colors, Some nice-looking rhubarb etc.

[sjsco]

Coming to the villages from CO the end of July to our new home. I’ll bring some plants that will make everyone happy:)))

[windylou]

I think this law is ok ... except that some communities may not want to allow this ... Like The Villages ??
Each senior community has its own restrictions and should be allowed to have them. But I assume this state law would over ride the community restriction.

[Bogie Shooter]

I think this law is ok ... except that some communities may not want to allow this ... Like The Villages ??
Each senior community has its own restrictions and should be allowed to have them. But I assume this state law would over ride the community restriction.

No need to assume.......see post #48.

[BobnBev]

The next time I get a notification about my sand crane in my flower bed I just might plant corn in the front yard.

Good plan---works for me.:ho:

[pacjag]

No need to assume.......see post #48.

Yeah, I don’t think deed restrictions, accepted by all residents, fall under the law. These are the same as HA restrictions, which are exempt.

[ColdNoMore]

Yeah, I don’t think deed restrictions, accepted by all residents, fall under the law. These are the same as HA restrictions, which are exempt.

That assumption...would be incorrect.

Read the link to the law...conveniently provided in post #1. :ho:

[Two Bills]

So if I mount my pink flamingo on a white cross, will it now be classed as an agricultural implement, ie. a bird scarer, guarding my crops?

[New Englander]

Lets not get silly.

[justjim]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I think the law is ridiculous to plant a garden in your front yard. Your back yard ok but not in my front yard...

[justjim]

One of the reasons I bought here was the curb appeal of the manicured lawns. I understood the deed restrictions and that gave me confidence that the continuity would always be there. Had I wanted to grow vegetables or have a multi-species yard I would have picked another community in which to live. Forcing communities to change the restrictions they agreed to when The purchased is ill conceived. I am disappointed in the lawmakers that allowed this to become law

Spot on with your post. :bigbow:

[pacjag]

That assumption...would be incorrect.

Read the link to the law...conveniently provided in post #1. :ho:

The linked article states “legislation that bans local governments from enacting ordinances against homeowners from raising veggies in their yards.” It says nothing about HOA rules which a homeowner agreed to when they purchased.

[ColdNoMore]

The linked article states “legislation that bans local governments from enacting ordinances against homeowners from raising veggies in their yards.” It says nothing about HOA rules which a homeowner agreed to when they purchased.

Read further by clicking on the link in the article, where it says..."the law.

[Two Bills]

Lets not get silly.

Why not?

If you look at it logically the whole article is silly.

Who in their right minds are going to plant corn, soy etc. etc.

The soil is crap, bugs are rampant along with local wild life, and with all the chemicals in the ground already, anything that actually survived, would have more carcinogens, than a cancer clinic!

Come on. Get real.

[pacjag]

Read further by clicking on the link in the article, where it says..."the law.

I did and suggest you do the same. The law prohibits governmental entities from passing ordinances or regulations. It does not prohibit HOAs from doing the same, nor does it address deed restrictions, both of which are agreed to by the homeowner when they purchase the property. Neither is a regulation or ordinance passed by a governmental body.

Right to grow front-yard veggies gets green light for Senate floor | Tampa Bay Times (https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/03/06/right-to-grow-front-yard-veggies-gets-green-light-for-senate-floor/)

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Sen. Kathleen Passidomo, a Naples Republican, voted against the bill when it came up in 2018. She said she changed her vote Wednesday because of homeowners associations and other groups that are not covered by the bill and are able create their own regulations when it comes to vegetable gardens.
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Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article228219329.html)

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The bill only preempts local government rules, not rules or gardening restrictions set by homeowners associations or other groups.
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People need to find something else to complain about.

[anothersteve]

People need to find something else to complain about.

Oh you can bet on that.
Steve

[Bogie Shooter]

Members of the Amenity Authority Committee learned at their meeting on Wednesday that a new Florida law that permits vegetable gardens in residential front yards won't affect community standards in The Villages. Lewis Stone, the AAC's attorney, said he and Valerie Fuchs, who represents the numbered Village Community Development Districts, concluded deed restrictions that Villagers agreed to in their purchase contract supersedes the new law. (Full report in Thursday August 8, 2019 Daily Sun Section C.Page C-4).