Will a change like this ever happen?

[Fishers2tall]

Hello to all my future neighbors in TV!! Greatly looking forward to joining you all in the greatest retirement community in America sometime in the next couple years. Currently the only homes in TV offering fully fenced yards are CYV’s and Verandas. My question is this: Do you think there will ever be a point in the future that the fencing used on Verandas and CYV’s will become an option on designer homes in new neighborhoods and would you be in favor of allowing fencing like that if it was offered in only a couple very elegant approved styles?

[queasy27]

I grew up in California suburbs with fenced yards and not having them is what seems unnatural to me, tbh.

I wouldn't hazard any guesses at to what's being planned, although fences in select models in Southern Oaks could be indicative of things to come. Get out your Ouija board!

If that's a whippet in your avatar, I can understand you asking. :)

[champion6]

<snip> My question is this: Do you think there will ever be a point in the future that the fencing used on Verandas and CYV’s will become an option on designer homes in new neighborhoods and would you be in favor of allowing fencing like that if it was offered in only a couple very elegant approved styles?Your question is confusing to me. I consider a Veranda to be a Designer with a fenced-in yard. Don't you?

[thelegges]

The verandas are designers with a fenced yard

[New Adventures]

I personally like the fact of no fences. It's nice to have an open view in your surroundings. I certainly don't mind the walls between the Verandas and they certainly complement that style of home. I looked at both before I bought in The Villages and my final choice was an open view. Maybe it's because I'm from New England and everyone fenced in their property. It was really hard to get to know your neighbors. It's just not for me anymore.

[NotGolfer]

We're originally from the midwest where fences generally aren't part of neighborhoods. I said generally. That said though, we visited SoCal years ago and were struck how ALL the homes seemed to be fenced in and it seemed to us to be strange and unwelcoming. BUT that's just me (us). What you're asking would be on speculation of "what do we all think". I guess you'd have to ask the powers that be that question as the general population would have no idea.

[rustyp]

Hello to all my future neighbors in TV!! Greatly looking forward to joining you all in the greatest retirement community in America sometime in the next couple years. Currently the only homes in TV offering fully fenced yards are CYV’s and Verandas. My question is this: Do you think there will ever be a point in the future that the fencing used on Verandas and CYV’s will become an option on designer homes in new neighborhoods and would you be in favor of allowing fencing like that if it was offered in only a couple very elegant approved styles?

Unequivocally absolutely not - you can take that to the bank. You are not even allowed to plant a hedge row as a barrier per the ARC.

[raynan]

Never will be an option in older neighborhoods but if you look at The Verandas they are Designers with fences.

[tophcfa]

I highly doubt that existing deed restrictions would be changed to allow fencing. However, if enough buyers of homes in the new areas being developed had a loud enough voice (with their bank accounts doing the talking), I would guess the developers would consider modifying the deed restrictions in the new areas to allow them. After all is said and done, it's all about selling homes, and meeting the demands of the next generation of potential home buyers is paramount. It is becoming very obvious that the new home buyers in the Villages South prefer walking trails over Championship Golf, otherwise the new homes simply would not be selling.

[Garywt]

There were a few neighborhoods in Pine Ridge or Pine Hills that we’re fenced in. Maybe this led to the Veranda neighborhoods. They changed the names of the homes be each one matches up with a designer home layout.

[villagetinker]

I would contact a sales agent, and ask them to keep you up to date on upcoming plans as new villages are announced. Since you cannot predict the future, you may need to buy a house that suits your needs and rent it out until you are ready to move.
Good luck with your quest.

[Villagevip]

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[champion6]

<snip> You are not even allowed to plant a hedge row as a barrier per the ARC.What CDD do you live in? That statement is absolutely not true in CDD 8 - I'm in Tamarind Grove. For example, vegetation barriers are commonly allowed which provide privacy around swimming pools. The only requirement is that the root ball of the plants must be at least 2 ft. from the side property line.

[rustyp]

What CDD do you live in? That statement is absolutely not true in CDD 8 - I'm in Tamarind Grove. For example, vegetation barriers are commonly allowed which provide privacy around swimming pools. The only requirement is that the root ball of the plants must be at least 2 ft. from the side property line.

For all our benefits please publish the request you submitted to the ARC that allowed a hedge barrier so the rest of us can site you as the example since I was rejected for that. You know like how to write a proper grant request.

[Fishers2tall]

I grew up in California suburbs with fenced yards and not having them is what seems unnatural to me, tbh.

I wouldn't hazard any guesses at to what's being planned, although fences in select models in Southern Oaks could be indicative of things to come. Get out your Ouija board!

If that's a whippet in your avatar, I can understand you asking. :)

Queasy27 you are correct! That is a whippet in my avatar! At a top speed of 35 mph he isn’t as fast as a greyhound but he will chase prey for a good quarter to half mile before he even starts to slow down so a fence is a necessity!

Your question is confusing to me. I consider a Veranda to be a Designer with a fenced-in yard. Don't you?

The verandas are designers with a fenced yard

Champion6 and thelegges you are both quite correct. My fault for not explaining my question better. The Verandas are designers with fences. What you have currently is an entire block or several blocks of Verandas in a neighborhood. Similar in fashion to the way CYV’s are always grouped together. My question if I had stated it better is do you think that at some point in the future fencing will be an upgrade option just like flooring or appliances or a bigger garage in a new home of any model no matter where your lot is? I hope that helps.

[Garywt]

I would guess no as they are into keeping things looking the same throughout a neighborhood. It is kind of an all or nothing type of thing. If you decide not to buy a house because of that, the next person through the door will buy it so it really does not matter to them.

[thelegges]

Queasy27 you are correct! That is a whippet in my avatar! At a top speed of 35 mph he isn’t as fast as a greyhound but he will chase prey for a good quarter to half mile before he even starts to slow down so a fence is a necessity!





Champion6 and thelegges you are both quite correct. My fault for not explaining my question better. The Verandas are designers with fences. What you have currently is an entire block or several blocks of Verandas in a neighborhood. Similar in fashion to the way CYV’s are always grouped together. My question if I had stated it better is do you think that at some point in the future fencing will be an upgrade option just like flooring or appliances or a bigger garage in a new home of any model no matter where your lot is? I hope that helps.

I can’t imagine deed restrictions would change to allow fences as part of your build. TV has a small area in Duval with ranch homes with fencing. Until the verandas were built only CYVs had fencing. My opinion is TV will have sections with fencing but I don’t think they will ever have random homes to have a fence. Don’t forget we have prey animals that a fence is not an issue when hunting. Best to buy where fence is allowed

[JerryLBell]

I doubt that fences will ever be optional. Having only one or a few houses with fences in a neighborhood that otherwise has no fences makes the look of the neighborhood too variable, too heterogeneous, for Villages standards I'm sure. The Morse family seems to strictly prefer a high level of homogeneity in neighborhoods. Given their track record on selling homes here and on the continued growth in the value of homes here, they may well be right. You're more likely only to find fences in neighborhoods that are ALL fenced, now and in the future.

[Happinow]

As I sit, I’m looking at about a 6’ tall hedge row that my back yard neighbor planted on his golf course lot. I see hedge rows everywhere!

[John_W]

I bought a new CYV in 2011, if Verandas were available at that time in my neighborhood I would of probably bought one. That's probably why they sell so many CYY's, the lack of available of fencing in most areas.

In our CYV community we have 80 villas, the same land space for designer homes would probably accommodate 30 designer homes if even that many. In 2011 the average price of our CYV's was $180K, the average cottage in 2011 was $180K and the average designer in 2011 was $230K - $280K on a standard lot. I believe the developer can make a lot more money selling CYV's. I believe the offering of Verandas was simply to attract buyers who might consider buying a resale in the established areas if all things were equal.

[champion6]

For all our benefits please publish the request you submitted to the ARC that allowed a hedge barrier so the rest of us can site you as the example since I was rejected for that. You know like how to write a proper grant request.Here ya go. Good luck.

[rustyp]

As I sit, I’m looking at about a 6’ tall hedge row that my back yard neighbor planted on his golf course lot. I see hedge rows everywhere!

Totally agree but did they get permission from the ARC ? You also know the system - if they didn't get permission a troll can blow them in and down they come independent of who or when they where planted.

My request was for a hedge row of bushes along my property line.
I was willing to space as far back from the line as the ARC seen fit (I have an exceptionally large lot). Rejected, no barriers between properties. They allowed me to plant bushes such that spacing would be no less than 5 feet between limbs and maintain that spacing at maturity plus to be trimmed no more than four feet high. They even went as far as to say that the spacing would allow for a person to walk through. I pointed out that was the very reason for my request. To stop people from cutting across my property to go to the swimming pool. I pointed out the fact that it was my way to stop trespassing without creating neighbor wars. Their response - priceless. Trespassing is a civic matter for local authorities and not the responsibility of the ARC.

[rustyp]

Here ya go. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply - here is my rejection for a hedge row. Maybe there is a difference that allows screening like for a lanai Vs a hedge row between properties I.E. a fence which is where this thread started.

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[Marathon Man]

Hello to all my future neighbors in TV!! Greatly looking forward to joining you all in the greatest retirement community in America sometime in the next couple years. Currently the only homes in TV offering fully fenced yards are CYV’s and Verandas. My question is this: Do you think there will ever be a point in the future that the fencing used on Verandas and CYV’s will become an option on designer homes in new neighborhoods and would you be in favor of allowing fencing like that if it was offered in only a couple very elegant approved styles?

No one can predict the future. But, I would offer that anyone buying here with the hope of building a fence in the future will be likely be disappointed.