Pool costs?

[Spoiler]

Moving to TV soon. ...8 weeks and we will be there.

I am currently trying to get Mrs Spoiler open to getting a pool in a new home there.

Never having had a pool, I was wondering what a modest sized pool, birdcage extension and the monthly pool maintenance costs even are?

Anybody with experience in having a pool built with their new home that can give me an approximate range of those three costs?

We will be building an Ivy model on an appropriate lot. And I do realize that there are many many factors to pool costs... but I was just wondering...

Thanks,

Spoiler

[jcvdd1]

Welcome-

Owning a pool is no different than owning a new boat.

There are only two good days in both pool ownership and boat ownership. The day you make the purchase and the day you get rid of both.... Just my opinion...

[Northerner52]

$50,000 minmum and $100 a month for service not including electric

[champion6]

$50,000 minmum and $100 a month for service not including electric
:agree:

[Spoiler]

$50,000 minmum and $100 a month for service not including electric

Is this 50k minimum estimate for the pool, the birdcage or for both together?

[PoolBrews]

Welcome-

Owning a pool is no different than owning a new boat.

There are only two good days in both pool ownership and boat ownership. The day you make the purchase and the day you get rid of both.... Just my opinion...

Having owned a pool for over 40 years, I couldn't disagree more! I enjoyed mine for 7-8 months a year in Michigan, and year round in Georgia and Florida. I have always taken care of my own pools - if you go saltwater and do your own chemicals and cleaning, it will be less than $50/month. The cost in The Villages for a pool AND a birdcage will most likely be north of $60,000 - and that is for a basic pool (around 275-300 sq ft) with very little features added.

[Northerner52]

Is this 50k minimum estimate for the pool, the birdcage or for both together?

Both

[champion6]

Is this 50k minimum estimate for the pool, the birdcage or for both together?10x24 pool, pool deck, electric heater, solar roof panels, birdcage. Fiesta Pools of Ocala

[Spoiler]

I appreciate the responses and the numbers. I guess that is about what I thought it might be.

Thanks,

Spoiler

[baustgen]

You will not be more than 5 minutes from an adult pool, no matter where you live. 10 minutes from a family of sports pool. The only benefit I see in owning your own pool is the ability to swim after dark. The villages pools are a great way to meet new friends. The bottom line is you will pay $60000 to swim at night.

[John_W]

If you're interested in living in the established areas, then look for a resale that already has a pool. That would save a lot of work, however with the newer areas not having golf cart connection, championship golf courses and restaurants and shopping close at hand, has caused resales to escalate in price. Still having the pool and birdcage already established would make an easier move. Homes with pools, there are many. Everytime I play golf, the fairways are lined with pool homes, however I almost never see anyone in them.

Here is The Villages Sales listing for preowned with pools

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/?preowned&pool&map&lng=-81.97024107798833&lat=28.893247341763853&lvl=0)

[Chi-Town]

While I am laying on my float listening to music while sipping a cocktail after a poolside barbecue I'll have to think about the benefits of ownership.

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[coffeebean]

You will not be more than 5 minutes from an adult pool, no matter where you live. 10 minutes from a family of sports pool. The only benefit I see in owning your own pool is the ability to swim after dark. The villages pools are a great way to meet new friends. The bottom line is you will pay $60000 to swim at night.

Actually.....you really can't "swim" in a back yard pool. I swim laps at the sports pools and feel very confined in a back yard pool. I feel confined in a neighborhood pool come to think of it. There is no swimming in a neighborhood pool; just walking and lounging with a noodle.

[Velvet]

There must be some reason why people have pools in TV. I noticed that homes right beside neighborhood pools have their own pools. And so many houses have pools! I almost bought one but I’m not here often enough I’d only keeping the pool company in business. Some people also complain about the noise of their neighbor’s pool pump. I went to a very elegant home for something and the owner showed me her beautiful pool but she had water falls feeding the pool which covered up any sound and it was a serene oasis. You didn’t actually have to get in the water to enjoy it.

[justjim]

You will not be more than 5 minutes from an adult pool, no matter where you live. 10 minutes from a family of sports pool. The only benefit I see in owning your own pool is the ability to swim after dark. The villages pools are a great way to meet new friends. The bottom line is you will pay $60000 to swim at night.

By the time you get finished with landscaping and if you built a pool for ambiance with waterfall, lights etc.etc. And large enough to really swim in - $90,000 should do the job if you don’t go “overboard”. In addition, you will pay a premium for a suitable lot. T & D, does a beautiful job... we know a pool is a personal choice - I agree with this post but OP the choice is still yours to make. Good luck and welcome to TV.

[villagetinker]

Two neighbors had pools installed, with birdcages, and one had an additional hot tub, both done by T&D, both took 3+ months (as I recall), one was over $60k the other $100k. We had an 800 square ft birdcage installed, NO pool, electrical outlets, for around $18k, got luck, took 2 weeks, start to finish.
IMHO, move in get settled, try the local pools, then and only then talk about your own pool. From what I have seen these pools do not get used very often. We did another option that works very well for us, we have our own hot tub/spa, $10k completely installed. I use it 3 to 4 times or more per week and it costs $75 month for all maintenance and chemicals. I do not have the electrical use.

[JSR22]

Fiesta built our pool and we use it daily and most evenings. I love our pool. If we ever move it will only be to a home where I can have a pool. Our pool, birdcage and solar were under 50. We have a waterfall, spa jets and turtles swimming at the bottom of the pool. T&D comes weekly and keeps the pool in excellent shape. My husband thought getting a pool was crazy, but he has changed his mind. He goes in when he comes home from golf and does stretching int he pool at night. My float, a good book and a drink is Heaven.

[kathyspear]

If your lot is not flat the installation costs will be much higher. Just FYI. (I didn't think our lot was on much of an incline until I started talking to pool people!)

kathy

[TheWarriors]

Fecal Parasite Found in Public Swimming Pools On The Rise, CDC Warns | HuffPost (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fecal-pool-parasite-cryptosporidiosis_n_5d1a02cae4b03d61163efdae)

May help in your pool decision.

[Spoiler]

Some great perspectives, both pro and con... exactly what I was hoping for...

Thanks to everyone for the comments

-Spoiler

[Arubagirl33]

Fecal Parasite Found in Public Swimming Pools On The Rise, CDC Warns | HuffPost (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fecal-pool-parasite-cryptosporidiosis_n_5d1a02cae4b03d61163efdae)

May help in your pool decision.

Beat me to it!! My thoughts, too!! Can’t wait to get my own pool 🏊*♀️

[JSR22]

Beat me to it!! My thoughts, too!! Can’t wait to get my own pool 🏊*♀️
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Fecal matter was a key part of my decision to have a pool installed

[John_W]

The cost of installing an in-ground pool seems awfully high. Here is an example, this 16X32 - 8' deep vinyl pool with steps, ladder and decking installed in 1978 in Pensacola was $4,900. Just for information, that region of Florida only uses fences and no birdcages. I sold the home in 1979 for $77,000.

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I recently looked up the address on zillow and found the home sold in 2012 for $212,000 and here's a photo of the pool at that time. Still going strong after 40 years.

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[TheWarriors]

Assuming 5% inflation for a pool installed in 1978 for $4,900, your looking at a replacement cost of about $36,220. today. That’s for a vinyl pool without a cage and or wall. Also likely not saltwater or with many visual effects buyers desire today. Always wished I could have today’s income with yesteryear’s prices but it is great to reminisce. Pools are a significant cost and like everything else in life, a personal choice. Go with what makes you happy and you will be content. Who would have thought central Florida real estate would cost what it does.

[OpusX1]

Some of the ongoing expenses not listed are, property tax is higher than a non pool home do to the added valuation and home owners insurance is more due to the valuation and increased liability. When we were looking at matching properties, one with a beautiful pool and one with a beautiful view. When I researched the total cost of ownership the pool home including weekly maintenance, insurance, taxes and figuring $50 a month for pump replacement and other needed repairs was $2500.00 more per year. Since we really aren’t swimmers we opted for the view home. I could see it going either way, the extra expense being well worth it if you like to be in the pool a lot. Good luck in your decision.

[JSR22]

Some of the ongoing expenses not listed are, property tax is higher than a non pool home do to the added valuation and home owners insurance is more due to the valuation and increased liability. When we were looking at matching properties, one with a beautiful pool and one with a beautiful view. When I researched the total cost of ownership the pool home including weekly maintenance, insurance, taxes and figuring $50 a month for pump replacement and other needed repairs was $2500.00 more per year. Since we really aren’t swimmers we opted for the view home. I could see it going either way, the extra expense being well worth it if you like to be in the pool a lot. Good luck in your decision.

Actually, my taxes barely went up. Pool service is $1380 per year. Our pool is 4.5 years old and (knock on wood) Zero $ for repairs.

[eweissenbach]

IMHO pool ownership is a lifestyle decision and not a financial decision. I have owned four homes with pools and the pool did not enhance the selling price to any great degree with any of them. On the other hand all were purchased with relatively little value for the pool. In my experience the owner who installs the pool is the one who takes a hit when selling their property. On the other hand having a pool may enhance your living experience in a way that financial concerns are of little or no concern.

[John_W]

Assuming 5% inflation for a pool installed in 1978 for $4,900, your looking at a replacement cost of about $36,220. today. That’s for a vinyl pool without a cage and or wall. Also likely not saltwater or with many visual effects buyers desire today. Always wished I could have today’s income with yesteryear’s prices but it is great to reminisce. Pools are a significant cost and like everything else in life, a personal choice. Go with what makes you happy and you will be content. Who would have thought central Florida real estate would cost what it does.

I was actually thinking of a car as comparison. Around that same time, I bought a new Mazda 626 for $6500, today a similar car would probably be a Mazda 3 and that sells for about $19,000 to $23,000). Four times the price, pool $5000 four times the price is $20,000. So if we use the same ratio, four times the price, a pool should be $20,000. What we have here is retired people who want to spend their discretionary money and be happy, so supply and demand makes prices go up. Add a birdcage, add $10,000. Pensacola is also a working town, not a retirement town.

Actually I did have another pool, the next house I had the same installer but it was an 18X36, previous was 16x32, and added underwater lights, diving board, ladder, steps and extra decking with plastic expansion joints, cost was $7700 in 1980.

[Packer Fan]

Two neighbors had pools installed, with birdcages, and one had an additional hot tub, both done by T&D, both took 3+ months (as I recall), one was over $60k the other $100k. We had an 800 square ft birdcage installed, NO pool, electrical outlets, for around $18k, got luck, took 2 weeks, start to finish.
IMHO, move in get settled, try the local pools, then and only then talk about your own pool. From what I have seen these pools do not get used very often. We did another option that works very well for us, we have our own hot tub/spa, $10k completely installed. I use it 3 to 4 times or more per week and it costs $75 month for all maintenance and chemicals. I do not have the electrical use.

A few questions since I want to do about the same thing - are you saying the $18000 INCLUDED electrical outlets or no outlets? Also, with the Spa, is it 220V? Did the $10,000 include the electrical? Can you drain the spa? Does the $75 a month include electricity? Also, is the birdcage covered at all or wide open? How do you like it?
Who put in your birdcage?

[jeriteri]

The quotes so far are pretty close but additions and size will determine the real cost. Call Charlie at T&D pools, really good to work with. The Best thing about having your own pool is that you know what's in it!

[CWGUY]

Welcome-

Owning a pool is no different than owning a new boat.

There are only two good days in both pool ownership and boat ownership. The day you make the purchase and the day you get rid of both.... Just my opinion...

:shrug: How about the day a 275 lb. guy in a red Speedo shows up? :1rotfl:

[jojo]

[QUOTE=OpusX1;1665295]Some of the ongoing expenses not listed are, property tax is higher than a non pool home do to the added valuation and home owners insurance is more due to the valuation and increased liability.

I was pleasantly surprised that our pool (now 10 years old) did not add to our property taxes or insurance. That may not always be the case but that is our experience.

[BK001]

Although we had room for a pool back home, we never wanted one. Still didn't want one when we moved here 3 years ago. We bought our dream house DESPITE the fact that it has a pool!

Now I can honestly say that after 3 years with our own pool, I will NEVER live without one again! Absolutely love it. To cool off, to relax, to exercise, whatever ... I love it! I have no interest in swimming in public pools (I won't repeat it here but let's just leave it at the fact that I gross myself out with some of my thoughts about public pools -- even if irrational. LOL)

PS

We pay $116 per month for weekly maintenance.