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~Jojo~
07-21-2019, 12:06 PM
I just got in touch with my TV agent who sold us 2 houses. I was shocked to learn she was let go after so many years working for TV and so have other agents, those older or with more years on the job. They were dismissed without any warnings. What is going on?

Velvet
07-21-2019, 12:12 PM
My TV agent worked extremely hard and long long hours. He was given a line to take and could not answer my questions as he (probably) would have liked to. I did not end up buying from him because of the circumstances unfortunately. From newspaper articles they say most people are let go because of their attitude or clash with their boss.

Nucky
07-21-2019, 12:12 PM
It's $$$ All About The Benjamin's. $$$

CWGUY
07-21-2019, 12:29 PM
I just got in touch with my TV agent who sold us 2 houses. I was shocked to learn she was let go after so many years working for TV and so have other agents, those older or with more years on the job. They were dismissed without any warnings. What is going on?

:ohdear: Does anyone ever get fired and then say "I was a lousy employee"? or "I would have fired me too"? Just curious.

:shrug: Another thought ...... think they were making the developer too much money? :1rotfl:

As always - I'm :confused: Anyway I hope your agent comes out of this okay. :sad:

retiredguy123
07-21-2019, 12:39 PM
I just got in touch with my TV agent who sold us 2 houses. I was shocked to learn she was let go after so many years working for TV and so have other agents, those older or with more years on the job. They were dismissed without any warnings. What is going on?
Something is missing. If an older worker is fired for no reason, they should get a lawyer and sue for age discrimination. It is illegal.

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 12:43 PM
Wow! That is horrible but there has to be a reason. Could it be that they weren't producing enough? Or should have been doing something, but didn't.

That is usually the reason that will happen with real estate agents.
Or perhaps there was a situation and the broker had to take the heat?

I think there probably are many strange things about what goes on within The Villages real estate.

At one time they cooperateD with outside brokers and then they suddenly seemed to get too big for their britches and decided they wanted the entire pie as opposed to splitting it with another broker (the MLS Realtors). They quit belonging to the local Assn. of Realtors and the National Assn. of Realtors, as well, and decided to do business on their own.

That, of course, made it more troublesome for buyers, but particularly sellers. If you list with a TV agent, an outside agent could no longer show or sell your property. That cut out ALL MLS Realtors -- an entire segment of agents from selling within the real estate market. By adhering to this practice, they are doing a horrible disservice to all sellers. It's really a shame.

Retiring
07-21-2019, 01:06 PM
It's $$$ All About The Benjamin's. $$$

Of course it is.

Bogie Shooter
07-21-2019, 01:13 PM
OP asked "What is going on?"
And as usual a multitude of opinions are expressed and as usual it is the developers fault.
Don't see how developer can be blamed anymore at this point than the agent that was let go.

Marathon Man
07-21-2019, 01:32 PM
Something is missing. If an older worker is fired for no reason, they should get a lawyer and sue for age discrimination. It is illegal.

Oh come on.

Marathon Man
07-21-2019, 01:35 PM
Clearly a business decision was made. What business does not do this on occasion? It really could simply be that they decided to reduce personnel. Cutting across all ages avoids any perception of discrimination. So - some older, some younger, some long term, some short term.

Villageswimmer
07-21-2019, 01:41 PM
I think TV management is far too savvy to fire people based on their age. That would be stupid. I didn’t realize they were actual employees. I would have thought independent contractors.

In any case, I think we’re missing part of the story.

retiredguy123
07-21-2019, 01:41 PM
Clearly a business decision was made. What business does not do this on occasion? It really could simply be that they decided to reduce personnel. Cutting across all ages avoids any perception of discrimination. So - some older, some younger, some long term, some short term.
Reducing personnel by cutting across all ages is perfectly legal. But, that is not what the OP said. The OP did not say that they reduced overall personnel at all. The OP said they fired older people for no reason. That would be illegal, and there have been many successful lawsuits for illegal age discrimination. It violates Federal law.

Topspinmo
07-21-2019, 01:48 PM
Something is missing. If an older worker is fired for no reason, they should get a lawyer and sue for age discrimination. It is illegal.

I would imagine that only applies to federal, state, county, and city jobs. I would think private companies could manage their workforce as they see fit. Most jobs are got by networking or neptunium, probably not connected enough?

retiredguy123
07-21-2019, 01:53 PM
I would imagine that only applies to federal, state, county, and city jobs. I would think private companies could manage their workforce as they see fit. Most jobs are got by networking or neptunium, probably not connected enough?
That is not true. The Federal age descrimination law applies to private companies. One company that lost a huge age descrimination lawsuit was Xerox. I also believe that some airlines have been sued by flight attendants for the same thing. Other companies include Ikea, IBM, Lockheed-Martin, and others.

CWGUY
07-21-2019, 01:57 PM
I would imagine that only applies to federal, state, county, and city jobs. I would think private companies could manage their workforce as they see fit. Most jobs are got by networking or neptunium, probably not connected enough?

:icon_wink: Isn't that a chemical element?

Bogie Shooter
07-21-2019, 03:47 PM
:icon_wink: Isn't that a chemical element?

:1rotfl:

Buffalo Jim
07-21-2019, 03:55 PM
I know some folks who sell for The Villages Real Estate and they have explained to me that they are " Independent Contractors " . Not sure if this is true for some or all . If one is engaged as an " Independent Contractor " then it`s quite easy to terminate the " engagement " without any explanation necessary . Again no idea if this would apply to the situation[s] being discussed here .

ColdNoMore
07-21-2019, 03:56 PM
I would imagine that only applies to federal, state, county, and city jobs. I would think private companies could manage their workforce as they see fit. Most jobs are got by networking or neptunium, probably not connected enough?

Totally incorrect.

Private companies cannot violate federal laws. :oops:

In fact, private companies practicing many forms of discrimination is the primary reason federal laws were promulgated...in the first place.

thelegges
07-21-2019, 03:57 PM
Our first agent a keeper, then moved to management. Our second didn’t care too much, in a hurry to close, instead of our better interests.
But that didn’t happen so on to number 3 who actually cares about our wants and needs.
We are on house 3, with #4 somewhere in our next chapter.
Getting rid of dead weight or a agent that has multiple complaints is just good business

manaboutown
07-21-2019, 04:03 PM
Are TV's real estate agents employees or are they independent contractors?

Aren't most real estate agents 1099 independent contractors?

CWGUY
07-21-2019, 04:03 PM
Totally incorrect.

Private companies cannot violate federal laws. :oops:

In fact, private companies practicing many forms of discrimination is the primary reason federal laws were promulgated...in the first place.

:faint:

Chatbrat
07-21-2019, 04:38 PM
The pie can only hold so many slices-after the slices are cut so thin, you can can't tell its a pie--the volume of sales in TV has declined--even though the Villages is expanding--TV sales people are losing to mls agents for resales--IMHO, TV agents prime purpose is to sell new houses, resales are not on their prime agenda--the developer tells them to jump and their answer is how high sir

graciegirl
07-21-2019, 05:05 PM
Wow! That is horrible but there has to be a reason. Could it be that they weren't producing enough? Or should have been doing, but didn't.

That is usually the reason that will happen with real estate agents.
Or perhaps there was a situation and the broker had to take the heat?

I think there probably are many strange things about what goes on within The Villages real estate.

At one time they cooperateD with outside brokers and then they suddenly seemed to get too big for their britches and decided they wanted the entire pie as opposed to splitting it with another broker (the MLS Realtors). They quit belonging to the local Assn. of Realtors and the National Assn. of Realtors, as well, and decided to do business on their own.

That, of course, made it more troublesome for buyers, but particularly sellers. If you list with a TV agent, an outside agent could no longer show or sell your property. That cut out ALL MLS Realtors -- an entire segment of agents from selling within the real estate market. By adhering to this practice, they are doing a horrible disservice to all sellers. It's really a shame.

Not strange that a business doesn't want to give away dollars when they don't have to.

BobnBev
07-21-2019, 05:07 PM
I see that young Mr. Rohan has become a TV agent. No nepotism here. Would you buy a house from a young kid, probably not.:ohdear:

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-21-2019, 05:08 PM
Something is missing. If an older worker is fired for no reason, they should get a lawyer and sue for age discrimination. It is illegal.

It is not illegal to fire someone for "no" reason. "No reason" is not a protected class.

It IS illegal to fire someone for age discrimination but the burden is on the person who is fired, to prove that's why they were fired. Incredibly difficult to prove even if it's 100% true.

andercat
07-21-2019, 05:47 PM
How can I find out who was let go?

Villageswimmer
07-21-2019, 05:51 PM
How can I find out who was let go?

Go to thevillages dot com
Click on HOMES
scroll down
Click on TEAM

you’ll see photos of sales agents in alpha order. If your person is there, well, they’re still on the TEAM.

OR, you could call him/her.

dnobles
07-21-2019, 05:55 PM
That’s strange my realtor called me to tell me she had been asked to train realtors. So she wouldn’t be selling but if I need someone she’ll see that I’m taken care of. Love my Realtor 😘

Velvet
07-21-2019, 05:57 PM
Good idea, I know you are talking about someone else but the agent who was so good to me is still there. whew!

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 06:19 PM
OP asked "What is going on?"
And as usual a multitude of opinions are expressed and as usual it is the developers fault.
Don't see how developer can be blamed anymore at this point than the agent that was let go.


Up to the point of your comment (#7), I didn't see one post that said the developer was at fault, other than one where the poster jokingly referred to the developer. . . . . . :shrug:

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 06:25 PM
Are TV's real estate agents employees or are they independent contractors?

Aren't most real estate agents 1099 independent contractors?


TV agents are 1099 independent contractors although they do have to abide by company guidelines.

Nucky
07-21-2019, 06:32 PM
I'll bet the Farm That the Following kind of idea directly applies to this Thread. I can't believe anyone was discharged without cause from an organization like that. I would think we had a Failure to Communicate. Cool Hand Luke (1967) - The Captain's speech " What we've got here is failure to communicate" - YouTube (https://youtu.be/452XjnaHr1A). My Mom got cancelled from Exxon with 31 other people who were better than 60 years old so I guess it's possible.

Sales is a funny business. If you don't make 'Em then they don't need you. When I had a Copy Machine Sales and Service Business I gave people way to much time before I canceled them. I was young. On the Other Hand The Villages is a Well Oiled Machine and they break sometimes but I'll bet it wasn't the machine that broke in this instance. Time will tell!

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 06:32 PM
That’s strange my realtor called me to tell me she had been asked to train realtors. So she wouldn’t be selling but if I need someone she’ll see that I’m taken care of. Love my Realtor 😘


Your comment is vague and not clear.
Are you speaking about TV agents or MLS Realtors? Which?

TV agents are NOT Realtors.

There IS a difference.

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 06:55 PM
It is not illegal to fire someone for "no" reason. "No reason" is not a protected class.

It IS illegal to fire someone for age discrimination but the burden is on the person who is fired, to prove that's why they were fired. Incredibly difficult to prove even if it's 100% true.




Employment At Will allows employers to terminate for no reason.


New Info:

Employment At Will: What Does It Mean?
If you are employed at will, your employer does not need good cause to fire you.

By Lisa Guerin, J.D.
Need Professional Help? Talk to an Employment Rights Attorney.

Job applicants and new employees are often perplexed to read--in a job application, employment contract, or employee handbook--that they will be employed "at will." They are even more troubled when they find out exactly what this language means: An at-will employee can be fired at any time, for any reason (except for a few illegal reasons, spelled out below). If the employer decides to let you go, that's the end of your job--and you have very limited legal rights to fight your termination.

Your Rights in the Workplace

If you are employed at will, your employer does not need good cause to fire you. In every state but Montana (which protects employees who have completed an initial "probationary period" from being fired without cause), employers are free to adopt at-will employment policies, and many of them have. In fact, unless your employer gives some clear indication that it will only fire employees for good cause, the law presumes that you are employed at will.

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 07:14 PM
Employment At Will allows employers to terminate for no reason.


"Employment at Will" is not as cut-and-dry as you make it sound.

In most cases, the employee must sign that he/she agrees with that type of employment.

Without signing that kind of agreement, an employee could file a lawsuit if terminated without being given a reason.
That does not mean the employee would win the lawsuit but without an employer having that kind of signed agreement certainly leaves them wide open for such a case.

retiredguy123
07-21-2019, 07:17 PM
It is not illegal to fire someone for "no" reason. "No reason" is not a protected class.

It IS illegal to fire someone for age discrimination but the burden is on the person who is fired, to prove that's why they were fired. Incredibly difficult to prove even if it's 100% true.
I don't think it is very difficult for a competent lawyer to prove age discrimination. It happens all the time. All they need to do is to ask the court for the employer's hiring and firing records. And, if they are, in fact, firing older employees and hiring younger ones, it will stand out like a sore thumb, and they will easily win the lawsuit.

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 07:22 PM
"Employment at Will" is not as cut-and-dry as you make it sound.

In most cases, the employee must sign that he/she agrees with that type of employment.

Without signing that kind of agreement, an employee could file a lawsuit if terminated without being given a reason.
That does not mean the employee would win the lawsuit but without an employer having that kind of signed agreement certainly leaves them wide open for such a case.




A swing and a miss..............



Very cut and dry.


No need to sign anything.


People file suit even if there is a reason.


Oh wait, this is the internet...........all posts are factual.


:1rotfl:

Chatbrat
07-21-2019, 07:22 PM
Again, they are not employees--they are sub-contractors

retiredguy123
07-21-2019, 07:47 PM
"Employment at Will" is not as cut-and-dry as you make it sound.

In most cases, the employee must sign that he/she agrees with that type of employment.

Without signing that kind of agreement, an employee could file a lawsuit if terminated without being given a reason.
That does not mean the employee would win the lawsuit but without an employer having that kind of signed agreement certainly leaves them wide open for such a case.
Even if an employee signs an "employment at will" agreement, it has no effect on the Federal anti-discrimination employment laws. It does not allow the employer to discriminate based on things like race, color, creed, national origin, and age.

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 07:57 PM
I just got in touch with my TV agent who sold us 2 houses. I was shocked to learn she was let go after so many years working for TV and so have other agents, those older or with more years on the job. They were dismissed without any warnings. What is going on?






If this is true:



Most successful businesses have productivity expectations and targets for employees and IC's. GE's program under Welch was to churn the bottom 10% and improve the overall efficiency.


Sales = Productivity.

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 07:58 PM
Wow! That is horrible but there has to be a reason. Could it be that they weren't producing enough? Or should have been doing something, but didn't.

That is usually the reason that will happen with real estate agents.
Or perhaps there was a situation and the broker had to take the heat?

I think there probably are many strange things about what goes on within The Villages real estate.

At one time they cooperateD with outside brokers and then they suddenly seemed to get too big for their britches and decided they wanted the entire pie as opposed to splitting it with another broker (the MLS Realtors). They quit belonging to the local Assn. of Realtors and the National Assn. of Realtors, as well, and decided to do business on their own.

That, of course, made it more troublesome for buyers, but particularly sellers. If you list with a TV agent, an outside agent could no longer show or sell your property. That cut out ALL MLS Realtors -- an entire segment of agents from selling within the real estate market. By adhering to this practice, they are doing a horrible disservice to all sellers. It's really a shame.

Not strange that a business doesn't want to give away dollars when they don't have to.


Yes, it is strange and you don't seem to understand how the real estate business works!

The real estate industry through its affiliation with their MLS Association of Realtors (local Board) and the National Association of Realtors conducts their business relationships by cooperating with one another. That means that any Realtor/member can show any listing to their customer, regardless of the person or broker (office) who actually listed the property. ALL MLS brokers (Offices) cooperate with one another and this benefits ALL of them.

Some years back The Villages decided not to continue being part of the MLS and to not cooperate with outside brokers.
This, of course, meant that they would not be listing or selling properties outside of TV unless it was a TV-related property. By not cooperating they decided their prime focus was to sell new inventory and this is what they concentrate on. They also would list Villages resale homes but in neither case could an outside broker participate in any showings or sales. Conversely, a TV agent could not show, list or sell property outside of TV.

So -- by not only NOT cooperating with outside brokers they are limiting themselves to TV and TV only and it is the poor TV seller who is paying the price because of this limitation. They are forcing potential buyers to work with two separate agents (both TV agents and MLS Realtors), and regardless of what you think, by not permitting TV and MLS agents to list and sell everything and work together, they are limiting all agents from doing a complete job and are cutting down the exposure to all buyers and sellers alike.

Why do you think in a city or shopping mall there were always at least two department stores.
WHY??? Because they feed off of one another and it is a sound business practice.
Real estate is a similar thing. It's the cooperation between all of them that makes each of them successful.

Now, do you get it?

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 08:12 PM
Why do you think in a city or shopping mall there were always at least two department stores.
WHY??? Because they feed off of one another and it is a sound business practice.
Real estate is a similar thing. It's the cooperation between all of them that makes each of them successful.

Now, do you get it?




And how is the department store industry doing these days??








:1rotfl:

graciegirl
07-21-2019, 08:15 PM
I can't see ANY advantage to being a "realtor". People can easily sell their own home here in The Villages,with a good closing company for a fee of about $700. Villages homes are much in demand. If a home is clean, doesn't smell, staged a bit and at a reasonable price, they sell quickly here.

I haven't heard of Villages rep(S) being fired.

I think this could be a rumor, blown out of proportion. People do get fired for any number of legitimate reasons. In order to keep any job you have to fulfill the employers expectations.

The Villages is in no way hurting. Their homes sell quickly. Their numbers are astounding. No one needs any kind of "hard sell" here in TV. And certainly have NO competition in this area....or anywhere.

Midnight Cowgirl
07-21-2019, 08:42 PM
And how is the department store industry doing these days??


I guess you didn't notice that the word "were" in the past tense. Please excuse my use of two tenses; my error.

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 08:50 PM
I guess you didn't notice that the word "were" in the past tense. Please excuse my use of two tenses; my error.




Swing and a miss.










I noticed.


:1rotfl:

Marathon Man
07-21-2019, 08:56 PM
OK. Let's address the original title to the thread. "let go for no reason". There is always a reason. It's just not always known by those other than who made the decision.

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 09:00 PM
OK. Let's address the original title to the thread. "let go for no reason". There is always a reason. It's just not always known by those other than who made the decision.




:bigbow:




Time will tell if this thread is fact or fiction.


My broker has been selling for +30 years, he is still listed on TV website. Not worth calling him on a Sunday night.


:icon_wink:

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-21-2019, 09:05 PM
Employment At Will allows employers to terminate for no reason.


New Info:

Employment At Will: What Does It Mean?
If you are employed at will, your employer does not need good cause to fire you.

By Lisa Guerin, J.D.
Need Professional Help? Talk to an Employment Rights Attorney.

Job applicants and new employees are often perplexed to read--in a job application, employment contract, or employee handbook--that they will be employed "at will." They are even more troubled when they find out exactly what this language means: An at-will employee can be fired at any time, for any reason (except for a few illegal reasons, spelled out below). If the employer decides to let you go, that's the end of your job--and you have very limited legal rights to fight your termination.

Your Rights in the Workplace

If you are employed at will, your employer does not need good cause to fire you. In every state but Montana (which protects employees who have completed an initial "probationary period" from being fired without cause), employers are free to adopt at-will employment policies, and many of them have. In fact, unless your employer gives some clear indication that it will only fire employees for good cause, the law presumes that you are employed at will.

Exactly. Thank you for providing details to support what I posted.

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-21-2019, 09:07 PM
I don't think it is very difficult for a competent lawyer to prove age discrimination. It happens all the time. All they need to do is to ask the court for the employer's hiring and firing records. And, if they are, in fact, firing older employees and hiring younger ones, it will stand out like a sore thumb, and they will easily win the lawsuit.

if the vast majority of employees in their sales office are over 55, then they can't prove age discrimination has anything to do with the firing of anyone over 55.

The majority of sales agents at the Villages are senior citizens.

dewilson58
07-21-2019, 09:12 PM
Exactly. Thank you for providing details to support what I posted.




:ho:

manaboutown
07-21-2019, 10:15 PM
Successful brokerages all over the country periodically release underperforming agents. Why keep them on as they use office space and add to overhead yet do not produce?

Bogie Shooter
07-22-2019, 05:45 AM
It seems strange that no agents have posted on here what is happening?

kfierle
07-22-2019, 05:57 AM
When I purchased my place in 2008, my Villages salesperson mentioned that a certain percentage of Villages salespersons were let go on an annual basis. Those with the lowest sales numbers for the year were cut.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

graciegirl
07-22-2019, 07:26 AM
It seems strange that no agents have posted on here what is happening?

I would guess that it is company policy not to discuss anything to do with the company.

graciegirl
07-22-2019, 07:31 AM
Yes, it is strange and you don't seem to understand how the real estate business works!

The real estate industry through its affiliation with their MLS Association of Realtors (local Board) and the National Association of Realtors conducts their business relationships by cooperating with one another. That means that any Realtor/member can show any listing to their customer, regardless of the person or broker (office) who actually listed the property. ALL MLS brokers (Offices) cooperate with one another and this benefits ALL of them.

Some years back The Villages decided not to continue being part of the MLS and to not cooperate with outside brokers.
This, of course, meant that they would not be listing or selling properties outside of TV unless it was a TV-related property. By not cooperating they decided their prime focus was to sell new inventory and this is what they concentrate on. They also would list Villages resale homes but in neither case could an outside broker participate in any showings or sales. Conversely, a TV agent could not show, list or sell property outside of TV.

So -- by not only NOT cooperating with outside brokers they are limiting themselves to TV and TV only and it is the poor TV seller who is paying the price because of this limitation. They are forcing potential buyers to work with two separate agents (both TV agents and MLS Realtors), and regardless of what you think, by not permitting TV and MLS agents to list and sell everything and work together, they are limiting all agents from doing a complete job and are cutting down the exposure to all buyers and sellers alike.

Why do you think in a city or shopping mall there were always at least two department stores.
WHY??? Because they feed off of one another and it is a sound business practice.
Real estate is a similar thing. It's the cooperation between all of them that makes each of them successful.

Now, do you get it?

No. Do not. Sounds like an agenda, and I don't agree with it.

FMF Doc
07-22-2019, 07:41 AM
"Employment at Will" is not as cut-and-dry as you make it sound.

In most cases, the employee must sign that he/she agrees with that type of employment.

Without signing that kind of agreement, an employee could file a lawsuit if terminated without being given a reason.
That does not mean the employee would win the lawsuit but without an employer having that kind of signed agreement certainly leaves them wide open for such a case.

This is determined by state law. All states are employment at will states but some have limitations as to how that is applies. for example some states specify that you can only be terminated with just cause. The signing is where the applicant/employee acknowledges that they understand the employment at will not that they agree with it.

anothersteve
07-22-2019, 07:43 AM
The majority of sales agents at the Villages are senior citizens.

I don't believe that's true. One look in the Daily Sun, on the last pages of the main section and first of the classifieds, show that I think.
Steve

RWR39
07-22-2019, 07:46 AM
I just got in touch with my TV agent who sold us 2 houses. I was shocked to learn she was let go after so many years working for TV and so have other agents, those older or with more years on the job. They were dismissed without any warnings. What is going on?

I can not help but think the greed factor has taken over village management. Dismiss the long term employees and start over with entry level folks.

CWGUY
07-22-2019, 07:57 AM
I can not help but think the greed factor has taken over village management. Dismiss the long term employees and start over with entry level folks.

:loco: Why? Because less skilled employees will make you more money? :1rotfl: IMHO this reply doesn't make sense.

billethkid
07-22-2019, 08:19 AM
If these were the words from the person let go;

"let go for no reason"

Does anybody think if a person was let go for a reason that is what they would be telling others?

Of course not.

alwann
07-22-2019, 09:02 AM
Maybe it's to make room for the developer's nieces, nephews and grandkids who need jobs. :1rotfl:

Marathon Man
07-22-2019, 09:26 AM
If these were the words from the person let go;

"let go for no reason"

Does anybody think if a person was let go for a reason that is what they would be telling others?

Of course not.

Of course there was a reason. There is always a reason. However, the person let go is often not told. Therefore, "I was let go for no reason".

anothersteve
07-22-2019, 09:30 AM
Of course there was a reason. There is always a reason. However, the person let go is often not told. Therefore, "I was let go for no reason".

More like "I was let go without a reason".
Steve

EdFNJ
07-22-2019, 09:33 AM
:loco: Why? Because less skilled employees will make you more money? :1rotfl: IMHO this reply doesn't make sense. Generally true but on the other side of the argument is they can "mold" new "fresh employees who may be "hungrier" and more willing to accept less to how they want things done now not as others have been doing it for the last 10 years as well as pay them less. Kind of like (in other types of businesses) giving new hourly employees 1 hour less than "full-time" to avoid having to pay benefits like $$medical$$ etc. That I can say from experience on both employee and employer side.

Here in TV it is a sellers market so the need for "top of the line highly experienced" people might be slightly less because selling homes here really isn't a professionals job but just a sales job. If "A" doesn't sell it "B" will.

New Englander
07-22-2019, 10:31 AM
Of course there was a reason. There is always a reason. However, the person let go is often not told. Therefore, "I was let go for no reason".

:agree:

HoneyofaDeb
07-22-2019, 10:38 AM
Florida is a right to work state...business decisions are made every day. The Properties of The Villages is a Business and they run as such. If an employee does not fit the bill then it is time for them to go. There are never hard feelings...feelings don't come into it at all...merely a business decision. Before you work for The Villages you have to accept the fact that you could get let go at any time and they do not have to give you a reason. The company is taking a different direction is all they have to say. There is no obligation on anyone's part BUT they do make you sign a non-compete clause. So think twice before you jump! Working for The Villages is not always the best fit! The Realtors ( those that work for RE/MAX, ERA, Realty Executives, Foxfire, and the like) do just fine and you get the same results, most of the time better results. The successful Realtors that work hard are the go getters and they are independent from The Villages...they take it one step farther and take the code of ethics and core law and yes they join the National Association of Realtors and uphold the values.

Bogie Shooter
07-22-2019, 10:50 AM
It seems strange that no agents have posted on here what is happening?

I would guess that it is company policy not to discuss anything to do with the company.

There are a lot of anonymous posters on TOTV.

Oh wait, anonymous that's who keeps calling me.:)

dewilson58
07-22-2019, 11:14 AM
Florida is a right to work state...business decisions are made every day. The Properties of The Villages is a Business and they run as such. If an employee does not fit the bill then it is time for them to go. There are never hard feelings...feelings don't come into it at all...merely a business decision. Before you work for The Villages you have to accept the fact that you could get let go at any time and they do not have to give you a reason. The company is taking a different direction is all they have to say. There is no obligation on anyone's part BUT they do make you sign a non-compete clause. So think twice before you jump! Working for The Villages is not always the best fit! The Realtors ( those that work for RE/MAX, ERA, Realty Executives, Foxfire, and the like) do just fine and you get the same results, most of the time better results. The successful Realtors that work hard are the go getters and they are independent from The Villages...they take it one step farther and take the code of ethics and core law and yes they join the National Association of Realtors and uphold the values.




Isn't Right to Work laws relate to Union shops???



You have the right to work without joining the union if the company is unionized.


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manaboutown
07-22-2019, 11:38 AM
I just checked the website and started to count agents. There are six agents per row so I started to count: 6, 12, 18...At 90 I got bored and stopped and was only partly through the alphabet.

In the real world, outside the bubble, a small percentage of agents make most of the money. Don't know if that is true for the agents working for TV.

Does anyone know if Villages agents are employees or independent contractors? My guess is managing brokers and support staff are likely employees and the agents independent contractors.

Bogie Shooter
07-22-2019, 01:05 PM
I just checked the website and started to count agents. There are six agents per row so I started to count: 6, 12, 18...At 90 I got bored and stopped and was only partly through the alphabet.

In the real world, outside the bubble, a small percentage of agents make most of the money. Don't know if that is true for the agents working for TV.

Does anyone know if Villages agents are employees or independent contractors? My guess is managing brokers and support staff are likely employees and the agents independent contractors.

30 previous posters said yes, 27 said no. and a whole bunch don't really care...…..

dewilson58
07-22-2019, 01:06 PM
30 previous posters said yes, 27 said no. and a whole bunch don't really care...…..










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Two Bills
07-22-2019, 01:15 PM
Just heard from my barber.
Evidently he was about to be sacked, but was kept on at the last minute.
It was a close shave.

Midnight Cowgirl
07-22-2019, 01:30 PM
I just checked the website and started to count agents. There are six agents per row so I started to count: 6, 12, 18...At 90 I got bored and stopped and was only partly through the alphabet.

In the real world, outside the bubble, a small percentage of agents make most of the money. Don't know if that is true for the agents working for TV.

Does anyone know if Villages agents are employees or independent contractors? My guess is managing brokers and support staff are likely employees and the agents independent contractors.


Villages' agents are independent contractors and get a 1099.
They receive no benefits.

manaboutown
07-22-2019, 01:43 PM
Villages' agents are independent contractors and get a 1099.
They receive no benefits.

Thank you!

So, they are independent contractors and not employees. Hence laws that govern the relationship between employers and their employees do not apply to them.