Water Plant Malfunction

[MrGolf]

I noticed this morning that the good news newspaper did not post the water problem south of 466A on page one or even page one of the local section. No, the paper chose to place the small article at the bottom of page 4. Go figure. I guess having a water problem is not something they want to promote.

[Marathon Man]

Well, once again, buying and reading the paper is optional.

[MrGolf]

All I’m saying is that a local newspaper has an obligation to it’s residents to report an alert the county deems important. One would think it would/should be more important than a small blurb on page 4. Has nothing to do with subscription ops not.

[DeanFL]

All I’m saying is that a local newspaper has an obligation to it’s residence to report an alert the county deems important. One would think it would/should be more important than a small blurb on page 4. Has nothing to do with subscription ops not.

Yes, worthy of at least a small front page article or Local News. ESPECIALLY with the 'Boil Notice'. THAT"S NEWS. Truly shame on the editor... Yes we subscribe and enjoy the paper.

[Bogie Shooter]

What makes knowing there was a water plant malfunction yesterday important? What will I or anybody do different having read a big announcement on Page 1?

[DeanFL]

What makes knowing there was a water plant malfunction yesterday important? What will I or anybody do different having read a big announcement on Page 1?

..read post#4 right above yours. period.

[Spikearoni]

Well, once again, buying and reading the paper is optional.

The point is that the issue is SERIOUS for all water-related purposes: washing hands, brushing teeth, personal hygiene, as well as cooking and consuming.

I believe that the poster is suggesting that it is the paper's civic duty to inform their readers who may be affected by this issue by placing a significantly larger notice in a more prominent area of the paper. Since the editors felt that it was important enough to post the info, why place it where their subscribers/readers could easily miss it?

[Spikearoni]

What makes knowing there was a water plant malfunction yesterday important? What will I or anybody do different having read a big announcement on Page 1?

It is important to know that there was a malfunction because the advisory by the Sumter gov district was to BOIL water before using it for any purpose in district 9, 10, and Brownwood. That's what you would do differently if you lived in an area that was impacted.

[graciegirl]

boil water notices in Florida by county in July 2019 - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=boil%20water%20notices%20in%20Florida%20b y%20county%20in%20July%202019&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=boil%20water%20notices%20in%20florida%20by%20co unty%20in%20july%202019&sc=1-52&sk=&cvid=4E033509C9914E81836C5042A45C2100)

And didn't I hear that just a pumping station went out and it was switched to another in about two hours?

[CWGUY]

Yes, worthy of at least a small front page article or Local News. ESPECIALLY with the 'Boil Notice'. THAT"S NEWS. Truly shame on the editor... Yes we subscribe and enjoy the paper.

..read post#4 right above yours. period.

:ohdear:You have taken the time to post here twice on the subject. I would like to respectfully ask you if you took the time to sign up for the District emails that go out when there is a "Boil Water Notice"? They also email you again with an "All Clear Notice".

The Alert was issued on a SUNDAY EVENING..... I don't know for a fact but would be willing to place a small wager that the FRONT PAGE was all made out by then.

With the "Daily Sun" that I subscribe too the difference from reading page 1 and page 4 is about 2 minutes. No big deal.

I would post the link to sign up for District Notices of all types..... but nobody opens them and I'm tired of doing it. Finding it is not difficult and IMHO everyone should. We have a bigger responsibility to protect ourselves then the "Daily Sun" does to protect us. :ho:

[CWGUY]

The point is that the issue is SERIOUS for all water-related purposes: washing hands, brushing teeth, personal hygiene, as well as cooking and consuming.

I believe that the poster is suggesting that it is the paper's civic duty to inform their readers who may be affected by this issue by placing a significantly larger notice in a more prominent area of the paper. Since the editors felt that it was important enough to post the info, why place it where their subscribers/readers could easily miss it?

:1rotfl: I have been compiling a list of things Villagers want to be in charge of. I was thinking I had it all covered....... and you come up with Font size and page layout in the "Daily Sun". I'm beginning to think my job will never be done.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

It is important to know that there was a malfunction because the advisory by the Sumter gov district was to BOIL water before using it for any purpose in district 9, 10, and Brownwood. That's what you would do differently if you lived in an area that was impacted.

I would have heard about it yesterday, just sayin.....
in fact I did.
Kinda late to read about the next day.

[CWGUY]

I would have heard about it yesterday, just sayin.....
in fact I did.
Kinda late to read about the next day.

Not mine and not yours but can you imagine how many bathroom mirrors were covered in toothpaste this morning as people read the "Daily Sun" aloud to their significant others? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Should have signed up for notices from the District :icon_wink:

[New Englander]

I didn't hear about the boil water till today. I've been drinking the water, brushing my teeth and showering. I'm not sick yet. :pray:

[Velvet]

Didn’t they say it was slow acting? Just wait til tomorrow...
(Bad, Velvet, bad girl!)

[Schneil]

Sadly, we should be stay focused on what is happening here in The Villages, instead of trying to downplay it by looking at other communities, sugary newspaper coverage and unrelated comments. Please folks, we are a community of senior citizens, many with serious health issues who may be severely affected by this situation. We deserve to have accurate information so we can take the appropriate measures. There is much "hearsay" conversation about house water filters, refrigerator water filters, etc... but nothing from the persons who are responsible for this situation. Please let's try to stay constructive and help one another during this situation.

[Bogie Shooter]

So, sign up for the District notices...…..

[blueash]

And didn't I hear that just a pumping station went out and it was switched to another in about two hours?

Don't know what you heard, but two hours of a non-working pump may be enough to have all the water in the system to become contaminated. So when the pump is fixed it is now pumping potentially non-potable water. And the testing to determine the safety of drinking that water will take hours or days. Thus the advisory to boil on a precautionary basis. Even after the boil advisory is lifted it is useful to be sure the public is informed so evolving symptoms can potentially be linked back to the exposure.

This is no different than a restaurant reporting that a former employee had Hepatitis A. He is no longer working and there is no ongoing risk but the public is informed of a potential exposure so we can all be aware to report to our doctor a known risk should we develop symptoms.

[blueash]

This is long (https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-09/documents/thepotentialforhealthrisksfromintrusionofcontamina nts_1.pdf) but it may help you understand the risk with a pump failure

"Any contaminant exterior to the distribution system may enter potable water supplies during a negative pressure event. Chemical contaminants could include pesticides, petroleum products, fertilizers, solvents, detergents, pharmaceuticals, and other compounds. Predominant pesticides in urban areas include atrazine, simazine, prometon, and diazinon (Patterson and Focazio 2001). Other studies have detected insect repellants, fire retardants, and other industrial chemicals (Koplin et al. 2002). If chemical compounds intrude in sufficient concentration or volume, they might result in acute toxicity. Microbial contaminants are a concern because even with dilution, some microbes (e.g., viruses) could cause an infection with a single organism.
Karim et al. (2001) reported on a study that examined 66 soil and water samples collected from 8 utilities in 6 states. The samples were collected immediately adjacent to the drinking water pipelines. The purpose of the study was to determine the presence of microbial contaminants in the soil immediately external to the distribution system. Whenever a main was excavated, samples were collected of either the water or the undisturbed soil next to the pipe. Total coliform and fecal coliform bacteria were detected in water and soil in about half of the samples, indicating the presence of fecal contamination (Figure 3). Bacillus was found in almost all the samples, which is not a surprise since it is a normal soil organism. Viruses were detected using culturable methods in 12 percent of the soil and water samples, and by molecular methods in 19 percent of the soil samples and 47 percent of the water samples. When these data are combined, 56 percent of the samples were positive for viruses either in the water or the soil. Sequence analysis showed that these viruses were predominantly enteroviruses (the vaccine strain of Poliovirus), but Norwalk and Hepatitis A viruses were also detected, providing clear evidence of human fecal contamination immediately exterior to the pipe …. In summary, it is concluded that transient pressure events occur in distribution systems; that during these negative pressure events pipeline are present in the soil and water exterior to the distribution system. To date, all observed negative pressure events have been related to power outages or other pump shutdowns" my bold


Now tell me again why it doesn't matter that it was only 2 hours? or that it was over before the newspaper would have arrived at your door?

[CWGUY]

This is long (https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-09/documents/thepotentialforhealthrisksfromintrusionofcontamina nts_1.pdf) but it may help you understand the risk with a pump failure

"Any contaminant exterior to the distribution system may enter potable water supplies during a negative pressure event. Chemical contaminants could include pesticides, petroleum products, fertilizers, solvents, detergents, pharmaceuticals, and other compounds. Predominant pesticides in urban areas include atrazine, simazine, prometon, and diazinon (Patterson and Focazio 2001). Other studies have detected insect repellants, fire retardants, and other industrial chemicals (Koplin et al. 2002). If chemical compounds intrude in sufficient concentration or volume, they might result in acute toxicity. Microbial contaminants are a concern because even with dilution, some microbes (e.g., viruses) could cause an infection with a single organism.
Karim et al. (2001) reported on a study that examined 66 soil and water samples collected from 8 utilities in 6 states. The samples were collected immediately adjacent to the drinking water pipelines. The purpose of the study was to determine the presence of microbial contaminants in the soil immediately external to the distribution system. Whenever a main was excavated, samples were collected of either the water or the undisturbed soil next to the pipe. Total coliform and fecal coliform bacteria were detected in water and soil in about half of the samples, indicating the presence of fecal contamination (Figure 3). Bacillus was found in almost all the samples, which is not a surprise since it is a normal soil organism. Viruses were detected using culturable methods in 12 percent of the soil and water samples, and by molecular methods in 19 percent of the soil samples and 47 percent of the water samples. When these data are combined, 56 percent of the samples were positive for viruses either in the water or the soil. Sequence analysis showed that these viruses were predominantly enteroviruses (the vaccine strain of Poliovirus), but Norwalk and Hepatitis A viruses were also detected, providing clear evidence of human fecal contamination immediately exterior to the pipe …. In summary, it is concluded that transient pressure events occur in distribution systems; that during these negative pressure events pipeline are present in the soil and water exterior to the distribution system. To date, all observed negative pressure events have been related to power outages or other pump shutdowns" my bold


Now tell me again why it doesn't matter that it was only 2 hours? or that it was over before the newspaper would have arrived at your door?

:ohdear: Can you tell me again why residents have not all signed up for District Notices as post 13 and 17 recommend? Have you? They would have received notice of this event and another notice when the alert is lifted..... all in a timely manner. If people have the ability and knowledge to post here ...... they could get on the District site and sign up for this service. You get to pick what you want to be notified about.

And don't worry about newspaper being delivered after the event was over because ..... other posters (junior editors) have already decided that the newspaper's notice was too small and on the wrong page. :1rotfl:

[CWGUY]

:boom: One more time......

VCDD e-Notifications Sign Up (https://www.districtgov.org/newsletter/newsletter.aspx)


I also found on this page a link to a form you fill out and change or "Up Date Contact Information". I did away with my landline and had never listed my cell # with The Villages. That has now been corrected. :ho:

[Bogie Shooter]

:boom: One more time......

VCDD e-Notifications Sign Up (https://www.districtgov.org/newsletter/newsletter.aspx)


I also found on this page a link to a form you fill out and change or "Up Date Contact Information". I did away with my landline and had never listed my cell # with The Villages. That has now been corrected. :ho:

Another opportunity to be informed:
ALERT SUMTER
Emergency Notification System
AlertSumter Emergency Notification System (http://www.sumtercountysheriff.org/publicsvc/codered.php)

[CWGUY]

Another opportunity to be informed:
ALERT SUMTER
Emergency Notification System
AlertSumter Emergency Notification System (http://www.sumtercountysheriff.org/publicsvc/codered.php)

:ho: I signed up when Sumter switched from "Code Red".
From the site you linked:

Messages will be sent to residents by their preferred contact paths either cell phone, text, home phone, email, fax, pager and more to ensure real-time access to potentially lifesaving information.

So.... unless you enjoy complaining about not being informed......:popcorn:

[dsnrbec]

:boom: One more time......

VCDD e-Notifications Sign Up (https://www.districtgov.org/newsletter/newsletter.aspx)


I also found on this page a link to a form you fill out and change or "Up Date Contact Information". I did away with my landline and had never listed my cell # with The Villages. That has now been corrected. :ho:

Thank you for that link. It’s very helpful. Please indulge me this dumb question but how do I know what district I’m in? I checked the legal description but it’s not there. Thanks

[CWGUY]

Thank you for that link. It’s very helpful. Please indulge me this dumb question but how do I know what district I’m in? I checked the legal description but it’s not there. Thanks

:ho:

VCDD Districts Map (https://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/districtMapIndex.aspx)

[Marathon Man]

The point is that the issue is SERIOUS for all water-related purposes: washing hands, brushing teeth, personal hygiene, as well as cooking and consuming.

I believe that the poster is suggesting that it is the paper's civic duty to inform their readers who may be affected by this issue by placing a significantly larger notice in a more prominent area of the paper. Since the editors felt that it was important enough to post the info, why place it where their subscribers/readers could easily miss it?

OK. Here is my response.

How many complaints have been made that the Daily Sun is the "happy paper" that avoids bad or controversial news. So why, oh why, would you depend on it for important warnings.

As others have said, sign up for the email service. It is the way things are done in 2019.