OMG!!! Another Mass Shooting. This one in in Dayton, Ohio.

[Midnight Cowgirl]

Incredibly, this is yet another tragedy.
Nine dead at this writing. and 16 hospitalized.
This is the fourth shooting within a week's time and the second mass shooting within a 24-hour period.
The shooter has been shot dead by the police.
The incident took place in downtown Dayton at about 1:22 a.m.

The police are trying to determine if any others were involved in the actual shooting.
Not very much is known at this writing.

[GrumpyOldMan]

There is nothing the politicians can or will do to stop this, it is up to we the people to stop it that can't happen until we can stop arguing with each other and find some common ground.

[New Englander]

Incredibly, this is yet another tragedy.
Nine dead at this writing. and 16 hospitalized.
This is the fourth shooting within a week's time and the second mass shooting within a 24-hour period.
The shooter has been shot dead by the police.
The incident took place in downtown Dayton at about 1:22 a.m.

The police are trying to determine if any others were involved in the actual shooting.
Not very much is known at this writing.

I just can't understand how people can do this. It makes me ill to think about it.

[Taltarzac725]

I just can't understand how people can do this. It makes me ill to think about it.

Dayton shooting: Nine killed, 26 wounded, shooter also dead | USA News | Al Jazeera (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/killed-shooting-dayton-ohio-police-190804082429928.html)

These are becoming terrifyingly "normal".

[manaboutown]

Copycat crime for fame! I hope there are no more coming.

[It's Hot There]

I just can't understand how people can do this. It makes me ill to think about it.

Really????? It's called mental illness.

[gatorbill1]

Why can't we all just get along?????????

[jane032657]

We have dog sitters at our house while we are away for summer. Their daughter was in Dayton at the bar celebrating her friend's birthday when the shots started. She crawled out and got out safely, pretty close to home. Very emotional to hear the story from them.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Why can't we all just get along?????????

:bigbow:

[billethkid]

Dayton shooting: Nine killed, 26 wounded, shooter also dead | USA News | Al Jazeera (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/killed-shooting-dayton-ohio-police-190804082429928.html)

These are becoming terrifyingly "normal".

An all too familiar side effect/result of our tolerance for violence in our society. The increasing and on going exposure to violence, maiming, murder, mayhem, disemboweling, etc in our entertainment environment is a conditioning of the wrong kind.

The true cause has yet to be addressed. And as history unfortunately documents....it will not be!!!!

[graciegirl]

This shooting in Dayton, Ohio occurred in the Oregon Historic District, near Kettering. It happened at a bar called NED PEPPERS. The long time owner died in April.
The gunman, a white male, arrived outfitted in a flak jacket. Here are some pictures of inside this bar, before the violence.

pictures of inside of ned peppers bar in dayton, ohio - Bing images (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pictures+of+inside+of+ned+peppers+bar+in+ dayton%2c+ohio&FORM=HDRSC2)

Oregon Historic District (http://www.oregondistrict.org/)

[Taltarzac725]

An all too familiar side effect/result of our tolerance for violence in our society. The increasing and on going exposure to violence, maiming, murder, mayhem, disemboweling, etc in our entertainment environment is a conditioning of the wrong kind.

The true cause has yet to be addressed. And as history unfortunately documents....it will not be!!!!

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.

The Bible has all kinds of violence in it. As do the works of Shakespeare, operas, Homer's The Iliad, etc.

[anothersteve]

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.

The Bible has all kinds of violence in it. As do the works of Shakespeare, operas, Homer's The Iliad, etc.

It's not just "these kinds of shootings", it's violence in general that is the problem. Look around, read the news, the world is getting crazier by the day.
Steve

[GrumpyOldMan]

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.


I don't know if the "thousands" would happen, but I agree in that I don't think this exposure to violence causes violent behavior. It may desensitize some people to violence.

However, I think it is fairly easy to prove that violence sells - makes money, and that is the reason there is so much violence in "entertainment".

A trend I find distressing is the books, movies, etc that make a person a hero who breaks the laws to achieve a "good" result. In other words the end justifies the means.

One of the two recent shooters said he was "defending" our country from the invasion of illegal immigrants. He was justified in killing all those people - in his own mind.

[Taltarzac725]

I don't know if the "thousands" would happen, but I agree in that I don't think this exposure to violence causes violent behavior. It may desensitize some people to violence.

However, I think it is fairly easy to prove that violence sells - makes money, and that is the reason there is so much violence in "entertainment".

A trend I find distressing is the books, movies, etc that make a person a hero who breaks the laws to achieve a "good" result. In other words the end justifies the means.

One of the two recent shooters said he was "defending" our country from the invasion of illegal immigrants. He was justified in killing all those people - in his own mind.

Violence does seem to be an indication of a real lack of imagination with some writers, movie directors, etc.

[Velvet]

Another reason why I am so glad to be in TV. Very sorry for the victims. So innocent, so undeserved.

As far as why someone does something like this, they are most likely psychotic, in my opinion. It wouldn’t matter if they were immigrants or extraterrestrials. Although it seems fashionable right now to pick on immigrants. It’s all in a sick mind. To me it say; fear, the shooter is afraid of something.

[manaboutown]

Thank God one or more LEOs were able to take the shooter out with 60 seconds which saved many, many lives. Police: Cops Saved 'Hundreds' of Lives Firing on Dayton Shooter (https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/04/police-cops-saved-hundreds-of-lives-firing-on-dayton-shooter-in-60-seconds/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR17Ox5INaLaj5qwGX4TrMsJ1b9XeGmPBjYfXkJem bTPPef48tbPMKsOPLs)

[billethkid]

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.

The Bible has all kinds of violence in it. As do the works of Shakespeare, operas, Homer's The Iliad, etc.

Using the reasoning above...
exposure to violence does not increase violence or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kinds of shootings.

Same/similar logic gun availability does not increase mass shootings because with the millions upon millions of guns available there would hundreds of thousands of these kinds of shootings.

There is the reality of what is called condition reflex:

"conditioned reflex. An automatic response to a stimulus which differs from that initially causing the response but which has become associated with it by repetition. The sight of food causes a dog to salivate. If a bell is rung every time the food appears, the bell alone will, in time, cause salivation."

Applied to violence exposure VS food or ringing the bell!

[Velvet]

I don’t quite see how you get satisfaction out of killing people you don’t know, but who are your own.

[graciegirl]

Alleged shooters name is Connor Betts, 24 from Bellbrook, Ohio. Very close to Kettering and Ontario Historic District. He arrived with mask, flak jacket and a long gun of some sort. He is dead. This area is about twenty minutes on I75 from our home in Cincinnati for forty years. His 22 year old sister is among those dead.

Dayton, Ohio, shooting: Suspect identified as Connor Betts as 9 people killed in mass shooting in Dayton today - live updates - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/dayton-ohio-shooting-suspect-connor-betts-9-killed-mass-shooting-today-2019-08-04-live-updates/)

[Bogie Shooter]

Another reason why I am so glad to be in TV. Very sorry for the victims. So innocent, so undeserved.

As far as why someone does something like this, they are most likely psychotic, in my opinion. It wouldn’t matter if they were immigrants or extraterrestrials. Although it seems fashionable right now to pick on immigrants. It’s all in a sick mind. To me it say; fear, the shooter is afraid of something.

This kind of craziness can happen anywhere...……….

[BobnBev]

This kind of craziness can happen anywhere...……….

..........Even in The Villages?

[Two Bills]

The world is going crazy.
Here in UK a 17 year old boy has just been charged with attempted murder after throwing a six year old five floors off a balcony at the Tate Modern Art Gallery.
He did not know the child, and was quite calm about it when passers by detained him.
The child is in critical condition.
Not in the same category as a mass shooting, but makes you wonder what goes on in some peoples head.

[karostay]

Time to stop playing games and remove bad animals from the food chain
With out hesitation

[Taltarzac725]

Dayton Ohio shooting – Connor Betts, 24, shot dead 9 including his own SISTER and injured 26 with high-powered rifle (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9649965/ohio-shooting-dayton-connor-bretts/?fbclid=IwAR0MTmFkInx_-rXvkob7Fs9s4IKwB503XYgHlOxiQA82nZ4MmhP_LI5nIHk)

It looked like he was targeting his sister and those around her.

[Bogie Shooter]

..........Even in The Villages?

Why not?