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queasy27
09-03-2019, 04:45 AM
Third hand story incoming!
A neighbor recently had a generator installed on the side of his house next to the A/C unit and said he was told by "The Villages" that it would have to be removed when he sold his house. Has anyone heard of this requirement?
He is on oxygen so perhaps he was granted an exception to the easement or property line requirements due to health reasons?
I rummaged around the District Gov site but didn't see anything that specifically addressed this.
I'll call next week when the offices are open again but wondered if this is a known requirement.
rhood
09-03-2019, 05:21 AM
Thee is a home on Auburndale for sale that has a generator next to the AC.
Nucky
09-03-2019, 06:58 AM
We are surrounded by people who have installed Generac Generators and the houses have changed owners without them having to be removed. They absolutely got the proper permits before having the units installed. I would think it would be a major plus, not a negative to have this unit on a house I would like to purchase. The units our neighbors have range from $8k to $12k all in. It would be cheaper if you have Natural Gas instead of needing a Propane Tank installed.
If it was installed without permits then who knows?????
TedfromGA
09-03-2019, 08:21 AM
22kw generator on propane installed. Received ARC approval, installer obtained required building permits and inspections by county. Nothing about a "status" change when/if home changes owners. All work completed by Trademark Electric. Recommended by others on the "Talk" and my experience was excellent.
n8xwb
09-03-2019, 08:42 AM
There was a story (recently) in the other news outlet that described what you have questioned. However, as I recall, the generator was installed on the side near the a/c, but alongside the neighbors Villa wall (it doesn't have windows). If your friends Villa is set up like mine, installation right beside the a/c would be prohibited because of the bedroom window. Placing the generator next to the neighbor's wall would eliminate that problem, but would need a waiver due to proximity to the property line.
shaboobie
09-03-2019, 09:20 AM
Tedfromga. Can you tell me the approximate cost for the generator and installation ? Also does that include the installation of the propane tank ? Thanks. My 250 gal propane tank and installation was $2800
Marathon Man
09-03-2019, 10:17 AM
Since it is a third hand story, there must be something missing. If it is not properly installed, why would they say 'it's ok until you sell'. A mis-understood message perhaps.
CWGUY
09-03-2019, 11:13 AM
Since it is a third hand story, there must be something missing. If it is not properly installed, why would they say 'it's ok until you sell'. A mis-understood message perhaps.
I seem to remember something about a person being given permission (because of a medical need to not be without power) to having a generator installed but because they didn't meet all the requirements they were told they would have to remove it if they moved. Completely understandable when you understand they were given the permission for medical reasons..... not the people that may own the property in the future. IMHO a GREAT way for the ARC to have handled it. :popcorn: I understand this completely...... not sure I understand the OP questioning it. :shrug:
Topspinmo
09-03-2019, 01:49 PM
What waste of money for most day or two inconvenient.
ColdNoMore
09-03-2019, 01:56 PM
What waste of money for most day or two inconvenient.
Have you even bothered to consider, that for those requiring electrical medical equipment...it's a lot more than just an "inconvenience?" :oops:
That was a rhetorical question...by the way. :ohdear:
thelegges
09-03-2019, 06:28 PM
What waste of money for most day or two inconvenient.
Dr Kevorkian Is dead, so no generator is not a quick death. Not having power to drive medical equipment even for 1 hour while sleeping is never a good outcome
queasy27
09-04-2019, 02:32 AM
..... not sure I understand the OP questioning it. :shrug:
I'm thinking about getting one installed and the removal requirement would be a factor in my decision. :icon_wink:
justjim
09-04-2019, 07:13 AM
I'm thinking about getting one installed and the removal requirement would be a factor in my decision. :icon_wink:
If it has ARC approval and it’s installed properly, you won’t have to remove it. Unless I had a “medical issue” I would question the need for one as an unnecessary expense. just saying... :popcorn:
Marathon Man
09-04-2019, 07:54 AM
I seem to remember something about a person being given permission (because of a medical need to not be without power) to having a generator installed but because they didn't meet all the requirements they were told they would have to remove it if they moved. Completely understandable when you understand they were given the permission for medical reasons..... not the people that may own the property in the future. IMHO a GREAT way for the ARC to have handled it. :popcorn: I understand this completely...... not sure I understand the OP questioning it. :shrug:
That means that the new owner would be required to remove it after purchasing the house. That can't possibly be a decision that they would make. It is either OK, or it is not OK to install it. Who owns the house surely does not matter.
CWGUY
09-04-2019, 08:21 AM
:icon_wink: Let me start my reply by stating "I don't have a dog in this fight and I really don't care...... I was trying to share what little information I could remember." Nothing else.
Next I would state, if the OP has a concern like this "I'm thinking about getting one installed and the removal requirement would be a factor in my decision." he/she should ask the proper authority.
Lastly - I spent the time to look for the story (all of 15 seconds) on the "other news outlet" as a poster called it. Here is what I found by typing "generator" in the search box: By Meta Minton - July 19, 2019
"A courtyard villa owner sought permission to install a generator for her husband who is on dialysis.
Debra Watson, who lives in the Lime Grove Villas in the Village of Poinciana, sought an accommodation under the Fair Housing Act and made her case Friday morning before the Community Development District 5 Board of Supervisors.
She sought permission to install the whole-house generator, although it would be located closer to the property line than would normally be allowed.
Supervisor Walter Martin was concerned about the noise level that the neighbors might face, but Watson said the generator would be next to the side of a neighbor’s home that doesn’t have any windows.
“The neighbor is in favor of this and has offered to write a letter of support,” Watson said.
The generator would only run when necessary due to a power outage or monthly testing.
The board approved her request, but with the stipulation that the generator be removed if the home is sold." :ho:
TedfromGA
09-04-2019, 09:09 AM
Tedfromga. Can you tell me the approximate cost for the generator and installation ? Also does that include the installation of the propane tank ? Thanks. My 250 gal propane tank and installation was $2800
Total cost was around $13k with ~$3k being for the propane tank & installation. [For us the cost is well worth the "peace of mind"]. From a purely financial point of view it doesn't make sense unless you have a situation where you cannot go without power.
Marathon Man
09-04-2019, 10:25 AM
:icon_wink: Let me start my reply by stating "I don't have a dog in this fight and I really don't care...... I was trying to share what little information I could remember." Nothing else.
Next I would state, if the OP has a concern like this "I'm thinking about getting one installed and the removal requirement would be a factor in my decision." he/she should ask the proper authority.
Lastly - I spent the time to look for the story (all of 15 seconds) on the "other news outlet" as a poster called it. Here is what I found by typing "generator" in the search box: By Meta Minton - July 19, 2019
"A courtyard villa owner sought permission to install a generator for her husband who is on dialysis.
Debra Watson, who lives in the Lime Grove Villas in the Village of Poinciana, sought an accommodation under the Fair Housing Act and made her case Friday morning before the Community Development District 5 Board of Supervisors.
She sought permission to install the whole-house generator, although it would be located closer to the property line than would normally be allowed.
Supervisor Walter Martin was concerned about the noise level that the neighbors might face, but Watson said the generator would be next to the side of a neighbor’s home that doesn’t have any windows.
“The neighbor is in favor of this and has offered to write a letter of support,” Watson said.
The generator would only run when necessary due to a power outage or monthly testing.
The board approved her request, but with the stipulation that the generator be removed if the home is sold." :ho:
Well, there it is.
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