May have spotted the Snoop

[Chatbrat]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

[ureout]

:popcorn: :popcorn:

[Chi-Town]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.



If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

Good data. Now you can snoop on her. [emoji368][emoji361]

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[blueash]

So now you may know who is complaining. What do you suggest is an appropriate community response to this information? I would take your posting as a threat of retaliation. It is exactly that mindset which has made it necessary for the complaint system to be anonymous, that some people feel "snoops" as you labelled this person should be outed and apparently punished by the community.

[starflyte1]

Thank you, Good to know. Threatening to promote retaliation??? I don’t think so.

[manaboutown]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

Well, she has established herself as a liar!

[Villageswimmer]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone


While you may mean well, why do you think she or anyone owes you an explanation? Maybe she thinks YOU’RE a snoop.

What a waste of your time and an affront to a stranger’s privacy. Did you ask her permission to video her?

[Villageswimmer]

This is just creepy.

[Chatbrat]

Let people put lawn ornaments, what's the crime on our postage stamp lots ?-- My neighbor is retired army he has a small statute of a soldier saluting the flag

Maybe it will stop her for making other peoples' live miserable--they came to TV, to spend their retirement , free from condo commando's

[graciegirl]

Let people put lawn ornaments, what's the crime on our postage stamp lots ?-- My neighbor is retired army he has a small statute of a soldier saluting the flag

Maybe it will stop her for making other peoples' live miserable--they came to TV, to spend their retirement , free from condo commando's

I like the things restricted in the deed restrictions. We moved from a place that was also deed restricted. It keeps things looking nice. Not everyone has impeccable good taste like you, Chatbrat.

[valuemkt]

If true, she has been a menace to many peoples well meaning happiness .. what a shame if the tables were turned a bit..

[Velvet]

This thread should be posted on the FUN thread.

[CWGUY]

I like the things restricted in the deed restrictions. We moved from a place that was also deed restricted. It keeps things looking nice. Not everyone has impeccable good taste like you, Chatbrat.


And I have a whole pat of flamingos in my District 2 neighborhood to prove it! :ohdear:

[roob1]

She is a menace because she is helping maintain TV's appearance standards, as spelled out in covenants we all "signed off on" when we bought?

I don't follow your logic.....unless you think people's happiness is dependent upon their choosing to ignore our rules.


If true, she has been a menace to many peoples well meaning happiness .. what a shame if the tables were turned a bit..

[Marathon Man]

Chatbrat and others are the exact reason that annonymous reporting is needed and will stay in place. This is absolutley a call to retaliate.

Just what do want someone to do once you give them the 'good description'? As soon as a story comes out that this woman was harmed, you can beam with pride that you enabled it to happen.

Please move away. Hateful people have no place here.

[Chatbrat]

She has a pet peeve about "little white crosses" and American Flags on the lawn--those where the only houses she stopped at.

[jebartle]

:popcorn: :popcorn:

Pass the popcorn please!

[Marathon Man]

I invite this woman to give is a descrition of the man who approached you a video recorded you.

[vintageogauge]

Pass the popcorn please!

Yes and I saw more dog poop today.

[Barefoot]

If true, she has been a menace to many peoples well meaning happiness .. what a shame if the tables were turned a bit..

She is a menace because she is helping maintain TV's appearance standards, as spelled out in covenants we all "signed off on" when we bought?
I don't follow your logic.....unless you think people's happiness is dependent upon their choosing to ignore our rules.

Valuemkt, I think this is a situation which will forever polarize residents. :popcorn:
But I'm curious, why did you sign the deed restrictions if you feel strongly that yard ornaments should be allowed?

[Kannon451]

Let people put lawn ornaments, what's the crime on our postage stamp lots ?-- My neighbor is retired army he has a small statute of a soldier saluting the flag

Maybe it will stop her for making other peoples' live miserable--they came to TV, to spend their retirement , free from condo commando's

What part of "no lawn ornaments" dont you get?

[Villageswimmer]

Chatbrat and others are the exact reason that annonymous reporting is needed and will stay in place. This is absolutley a call to retaliate.

Just what do want someone to do once you give them the 'good description'? As soon as a story comes out that this woman was harmed, you can beam with pride that you enabled it to happen.

Please move away. Hateful people have no place here.


+1. While I never had strong feelings one way or the other with respect to anonymous violation reporting, I sure do understand the reason for it now and fully support the concept.

I hope the TV powers that be read this thread and never change the policy. We don’t need self-appointed vigilantes.

If I were stopped by someone and asked what I’m doing, I’d have some choice words, and if that person started videoing me, I’d call the Sheriff.

Maybe the heat got to the OP. We can only hope.

[laryb]

I started a thread a few weeks ago about how my son was anonymously reported for his lawn not being in compliance, because it was done in stone. So, he fly's down to deal with the compliance dept, and has made arrangements to have it taken care of, even though the home was sold to him by The Villages as low maintenance a month or two before the complaint. The morning of the day he's returning home, he finds another notice on the door that someone has anonymously reported that now his backyard is out of compliance. This is going on in a patio villa neighborhood that has 20+ homes that also have all stone landscaping, but, according to the compliance dept., only three complaints. Now, I understand the need for compliance to keep our home's value and appearance held to a high standard, but this anonymous reporting goes both ways. While some may have a perfectly honorable motive for secretly reporting someone, there are those who probably do it just for the thrill of watching someone have to jump through hoops because of their actions. There have been anonymous complaints in my own neighborhood(not against me), and while I don't know if it's the same person, it sure sounds similar, and I'm in a nearby village. I might be willing to accept someone reporting people anonymously in their neighborhood because they fear retribution, but driving around streets randomly reporting people makes me think that these people have a real problem

[Chi-Town]

Waiting for the sequel to the Snoop and the Yenta.

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[ColdNoMore]

So now you may know who is complaining. What do you suggest is an appropriate community response to this information? I would take your posting as a threat of retaliation. It is exactly that mindset which has made it necessary for the complaint system to be anonymous, that some people feel "snoops" as you labelled this person should be outed and apparently punished by the community.


EXACTLY! :oops:

[ColdNoMore]

Well, she has established herself as a liar!

:1rotfl:


Sorry, but given that truthfulness has become something that is way down on a lot of people's list (if it's even on the list), of what's important...I just couldn't help myself.

[ColdNoMore]

While you may mean well, why do you think she or anyone owes you an explanation? Maybe she thinks YOU’RE a snoop.

What a waste of your time and an affront to a stranger’s privacy. Did you ask her permission to video her?

This is just creepy.


YEP! :oops:

[thelegges]

Hummm had a women last week walking through our property. I was sitting on lanai, asked what she was doing, I startled her, she said she didn’t she me sitting there. And quickly left to her awaiting cart.

What gives anyone the right to snoop around my windows or lanai. Or I could look at she is looking for a way into my home. Now you want creepy that’s creepy. If she is looking for compliance issues, this is way over the top. Plus she is now on all of my cameras.

[Velvet]

I almost didn’t buy a house because there was a white little cross... my background is Bible College, I am Christian... but I was under the impression someone or thing had been buried there. Because that is the sign we use all over North America to indicate a person has died at that spot. Now I know different, but not everybody does.

[Velvet]

Hummm had a women last week walking through our property. I was sitting on lanai, asked what she was doing, I startled her, she said she didn’t she me sitting there. And quickly left to her awaiting cart.

What gives anyone the right to snoop around my windows or lanai. Or I could look at she is looking for a way into my home. Now you want creepy that’s creepy

Trespassing.

[Chatbrat]

Was the cart an older deep red with a big black square in the back and a white swim noodle shaped like an "A" in the back?

[thelegges]

Was the cart an older deep red with a big black square in the back and a white swim noodle shaped like an "A" in the back?
It was around the front of our house didn’t get to see it, but front camera may have. Whoever this is she is really leaving herself open. Say something happens to a home, she is seen walking around the home that is not her residence, someone is going to call LEO. What ever her agenda is this is way out of line. Or waiting for someone to post on utube. Title: Is this creepy women looking in your windows.

[Velvet]

Looking in your windows for lawn ornaments?

[Bogie Shooter]

Paranoia is beginning to set in, really?

[Number 10 GI]

Chatbrat was well within his/her rights to ask what this person was doing. Where we lived in Tennessee there are Neighborhood Watch programs that encourage people to document and report suspicious people in the neighborhood. How do you know she is a village resident, maybe she was looking for places to burglarize by making a list of what was easy pickings for a thief? Maybe she is a village resident but that doesn't mean that she is an honest person. I have read a number of instances on this forum about people living in TV that were dealing drugs and stealing golf carts. Seems like there is an elitist attitude among some villagers that if you live in TV you are more moral and honest that the lesser people outside the bubble.
More than likely she is a self appointed vigilante who views herself as the righter of wrongs and right up there with God. If the people who live in the neighborhood don't have a problem with their neighbor's yards then that should be the end of it, its none of her business. Anonymous snitching is the cowards way. If you have a problem with me then approach me and we can talk about it.
To be clear I'm not advocating violence towards this individual. She is a mean spirited individual though and does not deserve any respect.

[EdFNJ]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone


Hope you turned off the sound on your phone while you were filming her because it is against the law in FL to film a conversation anyone without their permission. Florida is a 2 party state.


While it's generally legal to videotape someone in Florida, you are not permitted to record a conversation without the person's consent. Florida is a "two party consent" state, which means that it's illegal to record conversations unless all parties have given consent to be taped or overheard. As a home or business owner, it's best to err on the side of caution and install image-only recording devices. If your tape picks up a conversation, you might inadvertently fall foul of the state's wiretapping laws.

[ColdNoMore]

Hummm had a women last week walking through our property. I was sitting on lanai, asked what she was doing, I startled her, she said she didn’t she me sitting there. And quickly left to her awaiting cart.

What gives anyone the right to snoop around my windows or lanai. Or I could look at she is looking for a way into my home. Now you want creepy that’s creepy. If she is looking for compliance issues, this is way over the top. Plus she is now on all of my cameras.

That's a whole different story...than what the OP is whining about.

Personally, I would have been tempted to race her back to her cart, grab her keys...then call the cops.

[FenneyFanatic]

Why can’t grown up people simply follow the rules as they agreed when they purchased their home??

[Bucco]

Note to the person who was on a cart scavenger hunt....a popular past timein the Villages.....

That lady following you, AND FILMING you, and writing down your description was not a stalker, she was just another Villager who agreed to how things are done here, but for some reason changed her mind....

Not to worry, and if are posting about her somewhere, she is posting about you.

[Velvet]

If you forgot to turn off the sound while videoing you can edit it out for court.

[thelegges]

That's a whole different story...than what the OP is whining about.

Personally, I would have been tempted to race her back to her cart, grab her keys...then call the cops.

This person has been noticed in our neighborhood more than once. She was apparently looking at our landscaping which is next to our windows, and around our lanai. We have some whiteish bark plants, that flowers once a year. Our neighbor said she is looking for white crosses, and could not get to them without going thru our yard.
Since she set off all 4 of my cameras, it’s not paranoia, it’s gotten out of hand that she needs to walk around your home to see what one may be hiding in your flowers.
I get the deed restrictions, but for the traveling self proclaimed Creepy lady, she is going to get a rude awaking from someone one day.

[Villageswimmer]

She has a pet peeve about "little white crosses" and American Flags on the lawn--those where the only houses she stopped at.


This flies in the face of the poster who alleges a woman looking in her windows, etc. could there be more than one SNOOP?

The plot thickens...

[npwalters]

+1. While I never had strong feelings one way or the other with respect to anonymous violation reporting, I sure do understand the reason for it now and fully support the concept.

I hope the TV powers that be read this thread and never change the policy. We don’t need self-appointed vigilantes.

If I were stopped by someone and asked what I’m doing, I’d have some choice words, and if that person started videoing me, I’d call the Sheriff.

Maybe the heat got to the OP. We can only hope.

One has no right to absolute privacy when on a public street. It is entirely legal to photo/video anyone when in that venue. Calling the sheriff would accomplish nothing except taking them away from their critical tasks.

[thelegges]

Paranoia is beginning to set in, really?

Be happy to send her to your home and then you can choose if a weird person walking around your home is paranoia. My hope is she picks the house where that 100 pound dog comes out to protect their space. Since my security picked up her movements, from the front of our home up the drive, down the side of our home between houses, and then walking around our lanai, looking in the beds, I don’t have to make it up. It’s all there in color and her face all the video is very clear

[Velvet]

Yes, when I was house shopping we had a short time only and drove through most of TV so hubby could choose an area he liked. I went around many properties first. Not looking inside just to see if there were fences or how big the property was in order to see if we wanted an agent to show the house to us. On one property a lady came out leaving her barking dogs inside. I saw a shotgun too but she did not point it. I remember thanking her for that and mentioning that I was looking at her property to buy. She invited us in and told us her plans to move to the new area etc.

I gave up looking at houses that way, the grass was too painful to walk on in sandals anyways.

[Barefoot]

Why can’t grown up people simply follow the rules as they agreed when they purchased their home??I have no idea why grown up people have so much difficulty with deed restrictions.
No need for complaints, anonymous or otherwise, if everyone adhered to the rules they agreed to when they purchased their home.

[seoulbrooks]

Audio recording without permission will get you in deep trouble in Florida. deed restrictions were hopefully read before signing. It is not about crosses or other yard fixtures, it is about rules.

If the lady is trespassing or peeking in windows that is a different problem. Walking on a public street taking notes is her right.

[Villageswimmer]

Be happy to send her to your home and then you can choose if a weird person walking around your home is paranoia. My hope is she picks the house where that 100 pound dog comes out to protect their space. Since my security picked up her movements, from the front of our home up the drive, down the side of our home between houses, and then walking around our lanai, looking in the beds, I don’t have to make it up. It’s all there in color and her face all the video is very clear


What did the Sheriff say?

[Velvet]

If she had an acceptable reason for doing what she did, she would have said it.

As it is, the police should have a copy of your camera’s video. (I’m talking about the one looking inside.)

[Bowtorc]

I think that people driving around doing this have another agenda than deed restrictions. I would have stopped her and asked about what she was doing. I have had my home broken into and am always suspicious of something like this. Never hurts to ask !

[Trayderjoe]

Was the woman on the PUBLIC street or on private property? Maybe she was noting covenant compliance violations, or maybe she was checking out different landscaping for ideas for her property. Maybe she is doing a home appraisal and is making notes about the condition of the home and property. We had our home appraised for a refinance and not only did she take notes, but she even took photos of the property. If she is on a public street and taking notes, that may not be enough to warrant asking her about what she is doing. How many women, by themselves on a public street, would feel comfortable with a stranger approaching her asking her of her business? If she was using binoculars to appear to be looking in windows, well that would reasonably considered to be suspicious, but then, why not call the police or at least Community Watch and let them handle it? If she is actually on your property, you have every right to ask her to leave. If she was on private property looking into windows, the call that should be made is to the police. You could make that video of her and show that to the police when they arrive on the scene. She could then explain to them what is going on.

I have no sympathy for anyone reported for violating a covenant that they AGREED TO when they bought their home. There is a process that was set up to seek official approval for changes/additions that are potentially desired. Should one choose to not follow the process (which also doesn't guarantee approval), then they basically are crossing their fingers that a violation report doesn't get filed. Just because someone was violating their covenants for years without being reported doesn't entitle them to get a free pass. We are after all, an advanced age community, which means that homes on average will turnover faster than in non-age restricted communities. There may be new neighbors who may not be of the same opinion on the "tasteful aspects" of yard decorations that are violations.

I readily admit that the covenants are one of the reasons we chose to live here. No one held a gun to our head when we signed the paperwork and agreed to comply with the covenants, and I have yet to hear that such drastic measures have ever been needed to make a sale in the Villages. If the covenants are personally too restrictive, why not sell and move out of the Villages to a home without covenants or homeowner associations? Or, even better, just say NO and don't buy here.

[EdFNJ]

One has no right to absolute privacy when on a public street. It is entirely legal to photo/video anyone when in that venue. ---clip--- Yes, absolutely correct, but not (IN FL) to record and share a conversation (if any) one has with a person on a public street without their explicit permission.

[Barefoot]

One has no right to absolute privacy when on a public street. It is entirely legal to photo/video anyone when in that venue. I don't understand.
If one has a right to absolute privacy on a public street, wouldn't photographing someone mean a lack of privacy?

[tophcfa]

With all the fun things to do in the Villages, even the longest days of the year are way too short. It is beyond my imagination how someone could be so pathetic that they choose to wast their time driving around neighborhoods with a clipboard recording deed restriction violations when it is not their job?

[manaboutown]

Hummm had a women last week walking through our property. I was sitting on lanai, asked what she was doing, I startled her, she said she didn’t she me sitting there. And quickly left to her awaiting cart.

What gives anyone the right to snoop around my windows or lanai. Or I could look at she is looking for a way into my home. Now you want creepy that’s creepy. If she is looking for compliance issues, this is way over the top. Plus she is now on all of my cameras.

She could be legally shot as a burglar for crossing the curtilage in some parts of the country. Curtilage - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtilage)

[coffeebean]

I don't understand.
If one has a right to absolute privacy on a public street, wouldn't photographing someone mean a lack of privacy?

The statement was "One has NO right......"

[JoMar]

With all the fun things to do in the Villages, even the longest days of the year are way too short. It is beyond my imagination how someone could be so pathetic that they choose to wast their time driving around neighborhoods with a clipboard recording deed restriction violations when it is not their job?

Well, actually it's all our job.

[tophcfa]

Well, actually it's all our job.

Not if you don't get paid for it!

I agree it is all our jobs to report BLATANT and OBVIOUS deed restrictions in our IMMEDIATE neighborhood. But it is not our jobs to travel throughout the Villages with the sole intention of finding any nit picking little thing to report. Get a life!

[Yung Dum]

I'm selling torches and pitchforks to anyone interested.

[the square]

Please , please, please post it on a Villages group on fb. PM me and I'll post it myself..

[EdFNJ]

Maybe this person who is "snooping" was tagged for a violation and is trying to find examples to appeal her violation based on other untagged similar violations?

That being said she has absolutely no right to trespass on anyone's property without their permission. She should be told to get off or the police will be called. There was a guy in a SUV in front of our house a couple weeks ago taking photos. My wife and I approached him and he was a rep for a title company taking photos of homes 1 and 2 houses away from a property that was just sold. He provided ID and never left his vehicle.

[BobnBev]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

You are now promoted to Detective 1st class, and you get the substantial pay raise that goes with it.:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

[Topspinmo]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

Good job! :bigbow::bigbow:

[manaboutown]

Why not follow her home, video and review her yard with a fine tooth comb. Then report any violations, no matter how minor.

[Topspinmo]

Amazing stalker is now hero of compliance. I still say good job chatbrat for being observant to what going on in you’re village.

[Madelaine Amee]

I KNOW we all signed this, that and the other to live here, but I really dislike the idea of someone (with nothing better to do) going around with a clip board looking for violations. What may be a violation to her, maybe a piece of yard art that I have had for years and has memories for me. I am not talking about putting an elephant in the middle of the yard, but a small piece of yard art in a flower bed is certainly not a problem for me.

I guess the bottom line for me is that I do not like nosy old snoops. Reminds me of my grandmother who used to sit behind lace curtains to watch what the neighbors were doing. I loved the old girl, but what a miserable habit.

[Bay Kid]

Pictures? She needs something positive to do.

[Arctic Fox]

Why don't we just rename The Villages as "Salem" and be done with it?

[collie1228]

Myob

[600th Photo Sq]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

The Villages is a Deed Restricted Community. We follow the rules and expect others to do the same.

As for the person jotting down and taking notes, I call that nothing more than going the extra mile to remind others who choose to " Stray " from the rules that there are consequences.

The rules are crystal clear and super easy to follow. I am baffled when individuals get annoyed and in some way feel slighted when they get a notice that whatever rule that they broke needs to be corrected.

Your post is troubling and obvious that keeping the person (s) identity " Anonymous " is necessary.

[Chatbrat]

This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

[graciegirl]

This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

How do YOU know these things? I didn't think Community Watch had anything to do with deed restrictions. As Judge Judy would say, How do you know what she hates? I think you are warming to the subject, fella.

[Bogie Shooter]

This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

Sure a lot of assumptions here:
people in other villages...how do you know?
she hates American flags....how do you know?
community watch.....has nothing to do with deed compliance.

[Chatbrat]

Sorry should have said-community standards--she was sighted in Buttonwood doing the same thing, a friend of mine mentioned her cart, on the unnamed news sight American flags have beed mentioned as victims of anonymous complaints

[Villageswimmer]

This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see


OTOH, maybe she LOVES American flags and is developing a coffee table book of her photos. This whole thing is preposterous. And now you don’t have your photos. SMH.

[Chi-Town]

OTOH, maybe she LOVES American flags and is developing a coffee table book of her photos. This whole thing is preposterous. And now you don’t have your photos. SMH.OPsaid that he didn't save his photos and they're gone. Strange, because when you take a picture on a smart phone it goes into photo file where you have to delete it, and it goes into a trash file which you have to empty.

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[Chatbrat]

I don't have smart phone, refuse to be a smart phone zombie- I use my phone for just calls

[Chi-Town]

I don't have smart phone, refuse to be a smart phone zombie- I use my phone for just callsOK, just curious how your cell phone pictures disappeared. Now I know.

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[Chatbrat]

Forgot to hit the save button,

[New Englander]

I KNOW we all signed this, that and the other to live here, but I really dislike the idea of someone (with nothing better to do) going around with a clip board looking for violations. What may be a violation to her, maybe a piece of yard art that I have had for years and has memories for me. I am not talking about putting an elephant in the middle of the yard, but a small piece of yard art in a flower bed is certainly not a problem for me.

I guess the bottom line for me is that I do not like nosy old snoops. Reminds me of my grandmother who used to sit behind lace curtains to watch what the neighbors were doing. I loved the old girl, but what a miserable habit.

:agree:

[roob1]

Ms. Nosy Snoop who purportedly has no life as well as mental health issues, rides around all over TV, notes what she thinks are violations, and reports them. Community Standards investigates each one and follows through with those that are actual violations.

If you blame Ms. Nosy Snoop when Community Standards follows through on those reports that they determine are violations, you are projecting and shifting blame. The fault lies with the owner who feels he/she is entitled to violate the rule. After all, if they did not violate the rule, Ms. Nosy Snoop would have nothing to report to Community Standards.

Let's start putting the blame where it belongs already, rather than blaming others!

[LI SNOWBIRD]

And I have a whole pat of flamingos in my District 2 neighborhood to prove it! :ohdear:

Thanks for using the correct name for a gathering of flamingos. I am a word lover :MOJE_whot:

[drcar]

Ms. Nosy Snoop who purportedly has no life as well as mental health issues, rides around all over TV, notes what she thinks are violations, and reports them. Community Standards investigates each one and follows through with those that are actual violations.

If you blame Ms. Nosy Snoop when Community Standards follows through on those reports that they determine are violations, you are projecting and shifting blame. The fault lies with the owner who feels he/she is entitled to violate the rule. After all, if they did not violate the rule, Ms. Nosy Snoop would have nothing to report to Community Standards.

Let's start putting the blame where it belongs already, rather than blaming others!

:agree:

Where have we all gone! I live in Tamarind Grove, have not see the cart or the woman. I DO NOT CARE if she rides up and down PUBLIC streets. If you committed no infractions why does anyone care.

One of the residents of Tamarind Grove has started this latest test against the rules we ALL signed. I personally Didn't care about their cross or the spinning colored parrot. But know this has gone over board, what ever happened to the simple rule of following the rules. PUT the items on the porch, on the wall in the lanai.......

This is NOT, a flag issues, a cross issue, IT is a issue of following the rules. WE CAN NOT pick what rules we like and not follow the rules we do not like.

[CWGUY]

:agree:

Where have we all gone! I live in Tamarind Grove, have not see the cart or the woman. I DO NOT CARE if she rides up and down PUBLIC streets. If you committed no infractions why does anyone care.

One of the residents of Tamarind Grove has started this latest test against the rules we ALL signed. I personally Didn't care about their cross or the spinning colored parrot. But know this has gone over board, what ever happened to the simple rule of following the rules. PUT the items on the porch, on the wall in the lanai.......

This is NOT, a flag issues, a cross issue, IT is a issue of following the rules. WE CAN NOT pick what rules we like and not follow the rules we do not like.

:ho: This thread boiled down from 83 posts to 1...... THIS ONE! :wave: Thank you.

[Marathon Man]

With all the fun things to do in the Villages, even the longest days of the year are way too short. It is beyond my imagination how someone could be so pathetic that they choose to wast their time driving around neighborhoods with a clipboard recording deed restriction violations when it is not their job?

I Have lots of hobbies that I don't consider a job.

So, you don't think chasing a little old lady down the street with a video camera is pathetic? I think the person who did this is the real loser in this story.

[Marathon Man]

Those that are against annonymous reporting - please include your full names with all posts on this forum.

[manaboutown]

Your children must be proud.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Why not make certain she is living up to the very same standards she is attempting to hold others to by reporting them?

[graciegirl]

:agree:

Where have we all gone! I live in Tamarind Grove, have not see the cart or the woman. I DO NOT CARE if she rides up and down PUBLIC streets. If you committed no infractions why does anyone care.

One of the residents of Tamarind Grove has started this latest test against the rules we ALL signed. I personally Didn't care about their cross or the spinning colored parrot. But know this has gone over board, what ever happened to the simple rule of following the rules. PUT the items on the porch, on the wall in the lanai.......



This is NOT, a flag issues, a cross issue, IT is a issue of following the rules. WE CAN NOT pick what rules we like and not follow the rules we do not like.


Very well said.

I proudly stand for anonymous reporting.

Grace Helene Gantner

[skyking]

We are thinking about changing our landscaping and were planning on driving around in the golf cart looking for designs we like. I assumed we would write down addresses and/or take pictures to show the landscapers what we like. Now I'm afraid we will get shot!

[Henryk]

I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

Can't wait to hear more about this one...

[EdFNJ]

OPsaid that he didn't save his photos and they're gone. Strange, because when you take a picture on a smart phone it goes into photo file where you have to delete it, and it goes into a trash file which you have to empty.

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I don't have smart phone, refuse to be a smart phone zombie- I use my phone for just calls

Forgot to hit the save button,

Convenient. What the heck is a "save button" anyway on any phone smart or otherwise? Never heard of that. This whole thread sounds fishy to begin with. It's just a rehashing with additional drama of 12 other similar threads.

[Velvet]

My camera has a ‘save’ option. I often take photos using an app call photomgrpro on my iphone. And it discards the picture if you do not save it. Why are people so skeptical about what someone posts?

[gatherer47]

hey Chatbrat-doesn't surprise me at all that you post here about the snoop and you are the one attacked-the snoop needs to get a life

[Topspinmo]

:ho: This thread boiled down from 83 posts to 1...... THIS ONE! :wave: Thank you.

I disagree, so you’re vote is canceled :popcorn:

[Chi-Town]

My camera has a ‘save’ option. I often take photos using an app call photomgrpro on my iphone. And it discards the picture if you do not save it. Why are people so skeptical about what someone posts?Could not find photomgrpro on Google Play Store. Assume it's an app for the Apple smart phone or Ipad. Apple does have the best software for artwork. Oh well.

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[600th Photo Sq]

This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

Please define what you would describe as " Barely Visible".

The bottom line is really simple Rules are Rules.

Some individuals learn the " Easy Way ".... while others choose to learn the " Hard Way ".

[coffeebean]

Sorry should have said-community standards--she was sighted in Buttonwood doing the same thing, a friend of mine mentioned her cart, on the unnamed news sight American flags have been mentioned as victims of anonymous complaints

Are the American Flags mentioned the flags folks put out for patriotic holidays or the flags on poles that are attached to the homes?

[coffeebean]

Thanks for using the correct name for a gathering of flamingos. I am a word lover :MOJE_whot:

RE: the term "pat of flamingos"

I learn something every day by reading this forum. Thanks to all of you for my continued education. I really mean that!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Are the American Flags mentioned the flags folks put out for patriotic holidays or the flags on poles that are attached to the homes?

I saw a lot of the little American flags stuck in the ground all over the place during Memorial Day week. I wanted SOOOOO badly to complain to everyone who did it, because every single house that had more than one of those flags stuck in the ground had parts of at least one of them touching the ground. Which is - against federal law.

Y'all should be glad I didn't call the local constabulary (not community standards) on the bunch of you. It wouldn't have been multiple homes, it would've been multiple neighborhoods, in multiple villages throughout the entirety of The Villages.

As for the nosy golf cart driver - whoever she is, if she reads this forum she knows who she is. And she knows she is just stirring the hornet's nest. And so does everyone else.

Regarding anonymous complaints: I don't feel that the person who violates the deed restriction necessarily needs to know who submitted the complaint. But I DO feel that the Community Standards should require the name and address of the person complaining be recorded. Here's why:

Someone who has a beef against a neighbor, who continually reports violations that might or might not even exist, needs to be confronted by Community Standards, and told to knock it off. If all complaints are anonymous, they have no way of doing that.

Neighbors who have personal problems between them, need to not use "deed restrictions" as their weapon against their neighbor. You know that happens, it happens in ALL communities that have deed restrictions or condo rules. The only way to prevent this from happening is to require names and addresses of the complaining party to be recorded.

It doesn't mean the homeowner ever has to actually find out who made the complaint. But Community Standards should keep records of this.

[graciegirl]

If people use reporting deed restrictions as a personal "vendetta" the reported person first has to have a deed restriction.

You can't say Home 29 BayCayPlace has a bend over lady squatting and peeing in her front yard if they don't. Deed Compliance will do nothing.

It will all make better sense when you move here full time. But you tell us you own in the Historical area and there are few deed restrictions there.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If people use reporting deed restrictions as a personal "vendetta" the reported person first has to have a deed restriction.

You can't say Home 29 BayCayPlace has a bend over lady squatting and peeing in her front yard if they don't. Deed Compliance will do nothing.

It will all make better sense when you move here full time. But you tell us you own in the Historical area and there are few deed restrictions there.

It's not hard to stick a pink flamingo in the lawn of a neighbor you don't like, when the neighbor is "up north" visiting relatives or if they're a snowbird.

It's VERY easy to do that, and pile up the fines against those people.

In addition, it is rude and a waste of Community Standards' time and efforts and an insult to their work, if you make them come out to investigate issues that don't exist, or issues you THINK are issues, but really aren't. Like - a bad lawn. Improperly cared for. But the truth of the matter, is that there was a bit of weed growth and your landscaper used appropriate weedkiller to get rid of the growth, and it's going to take a couple of weeks for that patch of lawn to look pretty again.

If you are the only one who nitpicks on a regular basis against the same neighbor, YOU should be called out on it, not the neighbor. ESPECIALLY if it's things that Community Standards ends up not doing anything about.

That is why Community Standards should know the names and addresses of each person who files a formal complaint. So that THEY can decide whether or not the person complaining is being a nuisance - and if they are, they can tell that complainer to cease and desist.

[anothersteve]

I saw a lot of the little American flags stuck in the ground all over the place during Memorial Day week. I wanted SOOOOO badly to complain to everyone who did it, because every single house that had more than one of those flags stuck in the ground had parts of at least one of them touching the ground. Which is - against federal law.
.

It is not against the (Federal?) law to have an American flag touch the ground. Anyone can do whatever they want to and with the Flag that they want. I certainly believe in American Flag etiquette, and it ****es me off what some do, and i will defend their right to do so, but nothing you do with or to it is against the law.
Steve

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It is not against the (Federal?) law to have an American flag touch the ground. Anyone can do whatever they want to and with the Flag that they want. I certainly believe in American Flag etiquette, and it ****es me off what some do, and i will defend their right to do so, but nothing you do with or to it is against the law.
Steve

You would be incorrect. It is against the law to display a flag that is touching the ground. It's also against the law to burn a flag, UNLESS it is in disrepair. And then, burning the flag is the lawful way to dispose of it.

4 U.S. Code SS 8 - Respect for flag | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8)

that is the actual federal law. No, the penalties are not enforced, but it is still federal law.

[anothersteve]

You would be incorrect. It is against the law to display a flag that is touching the ground. It's also against the law to burn a flag, UNLESS it is in disrepair. And then, burning the flag is the lawful way to dispose of it.

4 U.S. Code SS 8 - Respect for flag | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8)

that is the actual federal law. No, the penalties are not enforced, but it is still federal law.

And I refer you to this:

In addition to the Flag Code, a separate provision contained in the Federal
Criminal Code established criminal penalties for certain treatment of the flag.6
Prior
to 1989, this provision provided criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to
the flag. In response to the Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson7
(which held
that anti-desecration statutes are unconstitutional if aimed at suppressing one type of
expression), Congress enacted the Flag Protection Act of 1989 to provide criminal
penalties for certain acts which violate the physical integrity of the flag.8
This law
imposed a fine and/or up to one year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing,
physically defiling, maintaining on the floor, or trampling upon any flag of the United
States. In 1990, however, the Supreme Court held that the Flag Protection Act was
unconstitutional as applied to a burning of the flag in a public protest.9

https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf

Steve

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

And I refer you to this:

In addition to the Flag Code, a separate provision contained in the Federal
Criminal Code established criminal penalties for certain treatment of the flag.6
Prior
to 1989, this provision provided criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to
the flag. In response to the Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson7
(which held
that anti-desecration statutes are unconstitutional if aimed at suppressing one type of
expression), Congress enacted the Flag Protection Act of 1989 to provide criminal
penalties for certain acts which violate the physical integrity of the flag.8
This law
imposed a fine and/or up to one year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing,
physically defiling, maintaining on the floor, or trampling upon any flag of the United
States. In 1990, however, the Supreme Court held that the Flag Protection Act was
unconstitutional as applied to a burning of the flag in a public protest.9

https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf

Steve
So then you are agreeing with me. The Flag Code is intact, and the Flag Code states that it is unlawful to display a flag that is touching the ground. The "separate provision" - known as the Flag Protection Act, which defines penalties for violating the law and which is in addition to the existing, intact Flag Code - is unconstitutional. Interesting case, especially reading the last part of the last sentence - as applied to the burning of the flag in a public protest.

It's unlawful to do it, but the penalty created by the 1989 law was determined to be unconstitutional - without changing the law that made the act illegal in the first place.

[EdFNJ]

My camera has a ‘save’ option. I often take photos using an app call photomgrpro on my iphone. And it discards the picture if you do not save it. Why are people so skeptical about what someone posts? The poster did not have a smartphone so there was no app to delete his videos.

I have that (excellent) app as well on my iPhone but mine doesn't delete anything from the camera roll unless you explicitly turn on "delete after importing" in the settings after *.heic conversion but then it saves the converted file unless you explicitly choose to delete it. It also backs up the original file to my Apple iCloud account.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The poster did not have a smartphone so there was no app to delete his videos.

I have that (excellent) app as well on my iPhone but mine doesn't delete anything from the camera roll unless you explicitly turn on "delete after importing" in the settings after *.heic conversion but then it saves the converted file unless you explicitly choose to delete it. It also backs up the original file to my Apple iCloud account.

the OP didn't mention videos, I don't think? I'm pretty sure that was another poster talking about video cameras engaging after some woman was romping around his property.

The OP was referring to a camera on his cell phone - there are cell phones that predate the smart phone - flip phones, that can take pictures of things. I don't know how the cameras work, but I'm wondering if maybe those are the types of cameras that require you to save, or not save. They have limited memory.

[Velvet]

The poster did not have a smartphone so there was no app to delete his videos.

I have that (excellent) app as well on my iPhone but mine doesn't delete anything from the camera roll unless you explicitly turn on "delete after importing" in the settings after *.heic conversion but then it saves the converted file unless you explicitly choose to delete it. It also backs up the original file to my Apple iCloud account.

I take photos with the app and not go through Apple’s roll because of the iCloud. This app is password protected even if someone breaks into iPhone. Apple is hacked sometimes but it is not publicized. So app good for credit card etc info. I don’t import from camera roll, I use photomgrpro directly. Also much to Apple’s chagrin, we share all our cell phones in the family. Wanted a common Apple ID. No, they can’t do that, would sell fewer number of phones. And they want your personal stats on everything. Like Facebook for future mining.

In any case why would OP mention that he no longer has video? But to reassure who ever is concerned about it.

[EdFNJ]

I take photos with the app and not go through Apple’s roll because of the iCloud. This app is password protected even if someone breaks into iPhone. Apple is hacked sometimes but it is not publicized. So app good for credit card etc info. I don’t import from camera roll, I use photomgrpro directly. Also much to Apple’s chagrin, we share all our cell phones in the family. Wanted a common Apple ID. No, they can’t do that, would sell fewer number of phones. And they want your personal stats on everything. Like Facebook for future mining.

In any case why would OP mention that he no longer has video? But to reassure who ever is concerned about it.


Off topic but I am curious. I've been using that app for years. How do you take photos WITH THE APP? I see no option for that as the app is only a photo MANAGER and EDITOR. I still have to use the camera app to take a photo. All my photos get saved to the camera roll. I can then move them to protected folders but not by default or automatically.

[Velvet]

There is a little camera on the bottom right side when you go into your folder. You need to have folders first. You have; tools, import, sort camera, new. The camera takes either photo or video.

[Velvet]

I guess I’m going to have to get a Facebook account. Maybe ‘Velvet’ is available.