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wereback
09-08-2019, 08:12 AM
My first time living in the villages and joining Talk of the Villages most of the treads started nicely and stayed that way. Their were many who posted and all was kept friendly now their are a few who post all the time and are only happy if they attack someone or something. I wish they would grow up or go away.

Bonnevie
09-08-2019, 08:22 AM
it's why I rarely read anything but the classifieds now.

dewilson58
09-08-2019, 08:31 AM
Excellent Observation.


Some posters are not happy and have found a way to share/spread their sadness.


I heard the ownership of ToTV changed as well. Again, "heard".

This was a great place for Newbie's, but it's run its course.

Various related Facebook sites are friendly.

graciegirl
09-08-2019, 08:35 AM
I have "felt" the change. Is it now owned by the relative of the long time owner who is a car dealer in Atlanta? The fellow who owned a cart repair business?

I feel it is completely different than it used to be.

Martian
09-08-2019, 08:42 AM
I can’t speak to what was, but this trend is every where not just at TOTV. It is like a cancer spreading through our country.

Sad but true...

Taltarzac725
09-08-2019, 08:44 AM
My first time living in the villages and joining Talk of the Villages most of the treads started nicely and stayed that way. Their were many who posted and all was kept friendly now their are a few who post all the time and are only happy if they attack someone or something. I wish they would grow up or go away.

I actually like the NOTHING thread and movie reviews and the like here on Talk of the Villages and I try to stay positive on just about every thread I post on this site.

Talk of the Villages is still a very good source for information about things happening here in the Villages.

There are also useful tips on surviving hurricanes; restaurant and book reviews; in addition to many other topics.

Taltarzac725
09-08-2019, 08:48 AM
I have "felt" the change. Is it now owned by the relative of the long time owner who is a car dealer in Atlanta? The fellow who owned a cart repair business?

I feel it is completely different than it used to be.

I actually like the change. It is more polite than before and does not allow as many personal attacks on other posters nor organized cyber bullying.

Bogie Shooter
09-08-2019, 08:53 AM
One thing I see that has changed. Posts that are intended to be funny or some with a little cutting edge are quickly deleted.
Yet, some posters that post paragraph after paragraph saying the same in a slightly different way...add nothing.
Some can post snarky and not get deleted others posting similar posts are again quickly deleted.
I remember the NFL being called the "no fun league". Maybe that now applies to TOTV?

anothersteve
09-08-2019, 08:56 AM
Some can post snarky and not get deleted others posting similar posts are again quickly deleted.


True dat! Not to mention the subliminally political comments that are in some posts that some see and "others" care not to.
Steve

Velvet
09-08-2019, 08:56 AM
Not sure what TOTV was like in the past. I like a bit of spice. Balanced views. I’m not talking about confrontations. As compared to everyone agreeing, saccharine sweetness etc. makes me look forwards to reading the posts each morning.

dewilson58
09-08-2019, 08:58 AM
Hopefully this thread remains open and ToTV takes the constructive feedback.

We all must dance on eggs when we offer feedback.

725: I enjoy NOTHING as well, with Birthdays & reviews.

But, it's says a lot when NOTHING is the best thread.

:duck::duck:

Taltarzac725
09-08-2019, 08:59 AM
Hopefully this thread remains open and ToTV takes the constructive feedback.

We all must dance on eggs when we offer feedback.

725: I enjoy NOTHING as well, with Birthdays & reviews.

But, it's says a lot when NOTHING is the best thread.

:duck::duck:

But NOTHING is about everything.

Happinow
09-08-2019, 08:59 AM
There are times where I’d like to ask a question of my fellow Villagers on this site, but I don’t because someone is always going to come back with a smart ass or insulting response. Why bother? Instead I go to my neighborhood site and ask. They are always very helpful. The difference is, on the neighborhood site, you may run into one of these neighbors who respond, so they are usually polite and informative. On this site, you may never know the person who responded as they are hiding behind a keyboard.

Taltarzac725
09-08-2019, 09:01 AM
There are times where I’d like to ask a question of my fellow Villagers on this site, but I don’t because someone is always going to come back with a smart ass or insulting response. Why bother? Instead I go to my neighborhood site and ask. They are always very helpful. The difference is, on the neighborhood site, you may run into one of these neighbors who respond, so they are usually polite and informative. On this site, you may never know the person who responded as they are hiding behind a keyboard.

I just put some posters on the Ignore List if they have a habit of making that kind of response to legitimate concerns.

anothersteve
09-08-2019, 09:04 AM
There are times where I’d like to ask a question of my fellow Villagers on this site, but I don’t because someone is always going to come back with a smart ass or insulting response. Why bother? Instead I go to my neighborhood site and ask. T

True words again. I will add also that some sure have a "holier than tho" and demeaning attitude also and are always "right".
Steve

DeanFL
09-08-2019, 09:06 AM
One thing I see that has changed. Posts that are intended to be funny or some with a little cutting edge are quickly deleted.
Yet, some posters that post paragraph after paragraph saying the same in a slightly different way...add nothing.
Some can post snarky and not get deleted others posting similar posts are again quickly deleted.
I remember the NFL being called the "no fun league". Maybe that now applies to TOTV?

So true - used to visit ToTV every day years ago - was typically interesting, lively, and fun. I tried to take part and post as well. Then>

- Apparent trolls or keyboard-hiding users sniped and snarked
- Angry personal responses to innocent Threads
- Classifieds turned into Flea Market
- Sponsors including their ads in Classifieds and Threads
- Seems to be fewer folks posting - perhaps gun-shy (can I use that term here?) about not wanting to be ridiculed or questioned about their comment
- Moderators over-reacting at times (if my post is deleted another time...)

A few weeks ago I posted a rsp to a Thread about commercials and TV. In my rsp I innocently included that "I will not watch upcoming political ads". My post was deleted by the Mod...

Oh well, it was ToTV was fun while it lasted.

Velvet
09-08-2019, 09:13 AM
There are times where I’d like to ask a question of my fellow Villagers on this site, but I don’t because someone is always going to come back with a smart ass or insulting response. Why bother? Instead I go to my neighborhood site and ask. They are always very helpful. The difference is, on the neighborhood site, you may run into one of these neighbors who respond, so they are usually polite and informative. On this site, you may never know the person who responded as they are hiding behind a keyboard.

Actually, I learn from those smart ass replies too, if nothing else, the personality of the poster. I’ve had some posters on the “do not read” list. But eventually I took them off.

I don’t care much for the flea market ads either. Makes me want to stop looking at the ads completely.

perrjojo
09-08-2019, 09:20 AM
I’m not so sure it’s worse. Remember Senior Citizen and some others that no longer post? Wow! They could start something.

Bucco
09-08-2019, 09:43 AM
I can’t speak to what was, but this trend is every where not just at TOTV. It is like a cancer spreading through our country.

Sad but true...

YES. Have been here since basically the beginning and it has and is changing, and it is not JUST TOTV.

It is nation wide now to your point.

Velvet
09-08-2019, 09:46 AM
misread above post

Bogie Shooter
09-08-2019, 10:58 AM
misread above post

Which one?

njbchbum
09-08-2019, 11:02 AM
YES. Have been here since basically the beginning and it has and is changing, and it is not JUST TOTV.

It is nation wide now to your point.

True dat! Amen!

NotGolfer
09-08-2019, 11:14 AM
I've sense people being a lot snarkier and trying to zing others on a one-upman-ship. It's already happened in this thread a couple of time.

The other thing, when a question is asked about something specific, everyone else doesn't give a specific answer or pull the others down.
Such as (and this is hypothetical)...I bought a car at such and such a place and my question is can I get it serviced here. The answer might come back "I got my car at this other place". BUT never give the answer the OP is looking for. IF someone is new or legitimately needs an answer lets try to help one another out without answering just to answer.

Nucky
09-08-2019, 11:15 AM
Momentarily someone could be anyone will step in and allow us to understand what we should think about how things have changed.

I noticed the change. It is NOTHING but real.

The only thing I can do about it is not get caught up in the ongoing disrespectful battles on various subjects. I still really like TOTV'S. From what I understand there are

Peaks and Valleys with these kinds of Forums.

I know people who have left the Forum. They couldn't take the heat so.........They bailed out and I really admire them for their decisions.

It's getting better already now that we are sharing about the change in a polite manner.

Bucco
09-08-2019, 11:30 AM
Respect for honesty,...truth, and especially each other goes a long way

Martian
09-08-2019, 11:39 AM
Respect for honesty,...truth, and especially each other goes a long way


And "don't sweat the small stuff"

Chi-Town
09-08-2019, 11:43 AM
I've sense people being a lot snarkier and trying to zing others on a one-upman-ship. It's already happened in this thread a couple of time.



The other thing, when a question is asked about something specific, everyone else doesn't give a specific answer or pull the others down.

Such as (and this is hypothetical)...I bought a car at such and such a place and my question is can I get it serviced here. The answer might come back "I got my car at this other place". BUT never give the answer the OP is looking for. IF someone is new or legitimately needs an answer lets try to help one another out without answering just to answer.

That is so true. And once the subject is moved off the topic the thread has its new life.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Madelaine Amee
09-08-2019, 11:47 AM
Yes, there have been major changes. I've enjoyed this chat line for many years, but slowly people left, nice people, intelligent people who really had something to say and their place has been taken over by very belligerent chatters with basically nothing intelligent to add to a conversation.

You may remember Old Coach, he was great, his writing was super interesting using commonsense. I never saw him post a derogatory post about anyone or reply to a post he disagreed with in a derogatory manner. But, he is just one of many nice people we had on here then.

I have been off TOTV for sometime, I still read through the posts but I only reply if I feel I have something to help.

Allow me to add this .. I had a stress appointment this week. Was sitting in the room taking the test when the door was flung open by this very large elderly man demanding to know what THEY were doing keeping him waiting. The technician took him outside and explained the facts of life to him in a very pleasant manner. When she came back she apologized and told me that old people were extremely rude and getting ruder. :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

ColdNoMore
09-08-2019, 12:15 PM
Respect for honesty,...truth, and especially each other goes a long way

:bigbow:...:bigbow:...:bigbow:

pooh
09-08-2019, 12:28 PM
Well, times change, things change, people change...and message boards can show the results of those changes. There are indeed some who seem to enjoy causing upsets, but this isn’t unique to TOTV, it happens on many boards. Life is fluid, people come and go and there will always be changes....some good, some not so good in our estimation. There is complaining, yet we’re all still here...;). The people we encounter and interact with on boards become a part of our lives...we wonder what they’ll say, how they have responded to situations...and what they’ll share with us. Remember, if there are posts from individuals that cause you heartburn, you have the option of blocking that person and you won’t subject yourself to the stress they bring you. What’s the old expression...”Bitcheth not if you have easy options.” Some here forget there are rules they agreed to abide by, they are guests on the board, not paying subscribers or sponsors. Mods make sure the rules are followed even when some here decide the rules don’t apply to them.

Toymeister
09-08-2019, 12:32 PM
I have given up. When I surveyed the benefit of a rare polite comment to the frequent snarky remark from the ever present know it alls who know little or Captain Obvious - I am giving it a rest with the hope that the future will be a return to civility.

Martian
09-08-2019, 12:48 PM
I have given up. When I surveyed the benefit of a rare polite comment to the frequent snarky remark from the ever present know it alls who know little or Captain Obvious - I am giving it a rest with the hope that the future will be a return to civility.

I hope by given up you don't mean leaving. You are one of the breaths of fresh air, good advice and common sense here. I always read your posts.

billethkid
09-08-2019, 01:01 PM
As I usually do, I prefer to ignore the less than 5% (more like 2%!) that are snipers and be-eye-chers and moaners and enjoy the other 95-98%.....TOTV is very informative....provides a perfect platform for soliciting help and communicating.

So instead of lending credibility to the exceptions lets boast about the good represented by the majority (pick a number)......there is certainly a lot more of it.

PS....I know it is hard to ignore a screaming child in the restaurant.....:duck:

Velvet
09-08-2019, 01:51 PM
Yes, some person writes something about something and one reacts to it emotionally? When I read a comment I don’t approve of I think of it more like when the cat meows outside the door. I can’t possibly emotionally react to a post written by someone I don’t know personally.

Now the helpful comments, those are really appreciated.

EdFNJ
09-08-2019, 02:04 PM
We should all ask for a refund of our monthly TOTV fees. Get them in the pocket where it most hurts!!!

For those who missed the joke: JUST KIDDING! WE DON'T PAY FEES! THAT WAS MY POINT!

Martian
09-08-2019, 02:16 PM
We should all ask for a refund of our monthly TOTV fees. Get them in the pocket where it most hurts!!!

For those who missed the joke: JUST KIDDING! WE DON'T PAY FEES! THAT WAS MY POINT!

Uh, you don't pay fees? Uh, why have I been being charged?

EdFNJ
09-08-2019, 02:23 PM
Uh, you don't pay fees? Uh, why have I been being charged? Maybe your battery is low?

Nucky
09-08-2019, 02:24 PM
I have given up. When I surveyed the benefit of a rare polite comment to the frequent snarky remark from the ever present know it alls who know little or Captain Obvious - I am giving it a rest with the hope that the future will be a return to civility.

You are sadly missed by many I'm certain. Always the voice of reason and like so many others have been very helpful to yours truly. I respect your decision to hang back. Hope to hear from you regularly again soon. Glad you posted. I was wondering. :coolsmiley:

Velvet
09-08-2019, 02:27 PM
No!!! Toymeister, who’s been bothering you?

Your posts have been immensely valuable to some of hubby’s and my decisions.

CWGUY
09-08-2019, 03:05 PM
You are sadly missed by many I'm certain. Always the voice of reason and like so many others have been very helpful to yours truly. I respect your decision to hang back. Hope to hear from you regularly again soon. Glad you posted. I was wondering. :coolsmiley:

I :agree: and I'm :sad:

dewilson58
09-08-2019, 03:07 PM
I have given up. When I surveyed the benefit of a rare polite comment to the frequent snarky remark from the ever present know it alls who know little or Captain Obvious - I am giving it a rest with the hope that the future will be a return to civility.




Toy, I understand.

My comments on this thread have been deleted already.

A majority of my concerns have not been with posters.
Can't say anymore, or here comes the delete button.

I spend my time on ToTV in the classified, then I sniff comments.

I try to add 10% value and 80% no value.

Enjoy the rest.

EdFNJ
09-08-2019, 03:31 PM
Toy, I understand.

My comments on this thread have been deleted already.

A majority of my concerns have not been with posters.
Can't say anymore, or here comes the delete button.

I spend my time on ToTV in the classified, then I sniff comments.

I try to add 10% value and 80% no value.

Enjoy the rest.



Do your "right justified super-sized blue text" posts have a mixed political meaning ? :)

dewilson58
09-08-2019, 03:44 PM
Do your "right justified super-sized blue text" posts have a mixed political meaning ? :)






No Sir, just my 80%.


:ho:

villagetinker
09-08-2019, 03:53 PM
You can use the Private Message function to ask your question, I have done this many times for similar reasons. If you are not familiar with this, go to the posters name and click you should get a drop down menu with several options, one will be the private message.

graciegirl
09-08-2019, 04:35 PM
You can use the Private Message function to ask your question, I have done this many times for similar reasons. If you are not familiar with this, go to the posters name and click you should get a drop down menu with several options, one will be the private message.


Did that once. Was called a fat old fart.

graciegirl
09-08-2019, 04:37 PM
Not sure what TOTV was like in the past. I like a bit of spice. Balanced views. I’m not talking about confrontations. As compared to everyone agreeing, saccharine sweetness etc. makes me look forwards to reading the posts each morning.

No. It isn't that , Velvet. One or two are allowed to bully.

redwitch
09-08-2019, 04:38 PM
We’ve always had at least one poster who had to be negative and, yes, frequently nasty. The political forum couldn’t be civil if it tried. As to it being meaner now that in the past, sometimes, yes. Sometimes the same as always. People who make personal attacks should have more than their post deleted — they should have a suspension and three suspensions equals a permanent banning.

One thing I have come to hate is the anonymity of the moderators here. They make arbitrary decisions and we have no recourse but to abide with locked threads and deleted posts. Sometimes a thread going off topic is a good, fun thing. Things are stopped, deleted much too quickly here. Being anonymous gives a moderator too much power.

I’ve been a moderator on other forums. We publicly acknowledged we were moderators. We also posted as members. There was never an issue.

I agree there should be some sort of limit on ads — classified ads to a certain dollar amount, everything being sold under one ad. Sponsors should be limited to ads, not starting threads that are actually ads.

Velvet
09-08-2019, 04:42 PM
Bullies, huh? I understand now.

How color sensitive are some people? We almost bought a new car to bring stuff to TV but the inside yellow brown made me nauseous after sitting in it for 2 minutes. Never thought that the font you write with could have political implications.

anothersteve
09-08-2019, 04:54 PM
One thing I have come to hate is the anonymity of the moderators here.

I don't think they are as anonymous as you might think.
Steve

Bogie Shooter
09-08-2019, 04:59 PM
Uh, you don't pay fees? Uh, why have I been being charged?

Newbie? On another thread, lot sizes, it was stated newbies don't know...….

Bogie Shooter
09-08-2019, 05:01 PM
Did that once. Was called a fat old fart.

Nah, now who would do such a thing?

ColdNoMore
09-08-2019, 06:08 PM
From what I've seen, what often happens to a new poster (from certain folks, who don't really need to be named) is:

1. Try, either overtly or covertly, to immediately determine their political leanings so that you can quickly brand and treat them as...'friend' or 'foe.'

2. Depending on that determination, if they're on 'your' side, make them an immediate friend and pile on the compliments (often cloying and in spite of their actual honesty/truthfulness/integrity) and if not on your side, chase them around...and try to start ganging up on them (often with a call for help) every time they post.

3. Try to turn the most innocuous of subjects...political (see #1).

4. Count/depend on number of posts/length of membership/clique members speaking up in support, to bully/gang up (overtly and subtly)...to try and get away with more than "the enemy." :ohdear:

5. If you are one of that group and some type of discipline occurs, make your first posts after coming back whining ones, about how unfair you were treated. Never mind the plethora of times... you got away with a lot more than most others. :oops:

I have to say though, that I believe the moderation gets better and more fair...as time goes along. :thumbup:

Just my personal observations and $.02 worth. :ho:


P.S. Just watch, the ones taking the greatest umbrage with my observations...pretty much prove my point.

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-08-2019, 06:24 PM
My first time living in the villages and joining Talk of the Villages most of the treads started nicely and stayed that way. Their were many who posted and all was kept friendly now their are a few who post all the time and are only happy if they attack someone or something. I wish they would grow up or go away.

I love the irony in your post. Great idea. Instead of starting nicely and getting ugly, start it ugly so it can't go downhill from there. Good job.

ColdNoMore
09-08-2019, 06:27 PM
I love the irony in your post. Great idea. Instead of starting nicely and getting ugly, start it ugly so it can't go downhill from there. Good job.

Yeah...me too. :D

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-08-2019, 06:32 PM
I've sense people being a lot snarkier and trying to zing others on a one-upman-ship. It's already happened in this thread a couple of time.

The other thing, when a question is asked about something specific, everyone else doesn't give a specific answer or pull the others down.
Such as (and this is hypothetical)...I bought a car at such and such a place and my question is can I get it serviced here. The answer might come back "I got my car at this other place". BUT never give the answer the OP is looking for. IF someone is new or legitimately needs an answer lets try to help one another out without answering just to answer.

I wish we could rep posts. This is a huge deal. You ask a question, and they answer a question you never asked - and you have to remind them you just want the question you asked, answered - and around and around it goes til you get frustrated and people start getting nasty because they're "only trying to help and you should maybe just not move to the Villages."

Taltarzac725
09-08-2019, 06:47 PM
Really look forward to certain posters outlook on just about anything and some of these who have left TOTV since I joined in July of 2007 are very badly missed. Some have passed away and others were driven off to other kinds of sources of communication. Facebook seems to have picked up a lot of these former TOTV posters.

Martian
09-08-2019, 07:06 PM
From what I've seen, what often happens to a new poster (from certain folks, who don't really need to be named) is:

1. Try, either overtly or covertly, to immediately determine their political leanings so that you can quickly brand and treat them as...'friend' or 'foe.'



Well, as if it isn't totally obvious, for anyone TRYING to figure me out, I am a bleeding heart liberal, through and through.

And I have received several friend requests from people that are obviously conservative.

I feel honored that people that disagree with me would want to consider me a friend.

Bucco
09-08-2019, 07:16 PM
You the new owner?

Again, a point is proven almost immediately.

CNM is accurate it all cases, however I still have issues with moderators who appear to be swayed by certain posters. I support a previous thought that they should be identified clearly.

It is frustrating that no matter what a thread is about, your "politics" guides reaction. I certainly am guilty of inserting that in my posts, mostly and I would bet "some" money on it, I was posting calling out a snarky statement loaded with "overtones"

I always loved the discussion on here, even the original political forum. Everyone knew where you stood, but ISSUES were discussed, not so much people, and it was really rare that a poster in making their case did not allow you a link to back up their feelings. Not that way anymore.....the "issue", even if a local Villages issue is pushed aside...how many times are we treated to someone reciting a posters history...for what reason I know not.....how many times in supporting a thought...instead of making a case...do we hear how "I know how great you are thus"....any discussion is destroyed if certain are not pleased...change the subject...whatever it takes.

This is destroying the discussion aspect of this forum.

Links are laughed at, and mocking facts and reality is offensive on any "discussion" level.

Bucco
09-08-2019, 07:39 PM
Additionally, we have posters who have solicited other members to join them in "going after" other posters. How do I know...I was, in the past one of those solicited. Recently this person was sarcastic to me AND MY WIFE, something about being aloof or not forthcoming with personal info. That is on purpose. I have the PMs asking me to join in and also PMs telling me the latest scandal in posters. I keep it close to the vest because while I know I am discussed, I do not want nast gossip out there, and it is real.

Why was I solicited to help ? At the time, I was considered a "political" ally, but no longer. Seems it always boils down to that...it is a shame....this forum was stacked with nice intelligent folks who shared a home town, and from whom I learned so much by sharing in a respectable way without sneaky undercurrents.

EdFNJ
09-08-2019, 09:06 PM
Do your "right justified super-sized blue text" posts have a mixed political meaning ? :)

Bullies, huh? I understand now.

How color sensitive are some people? We almost bought a new car to bring stuff to TV but the inside yellow brown made me nauseous after sitting in it for 2 minutes. Never thought that the font you write with could have political implications.

"OH LORDY I hope there are tapes!"

(that was a famous quote). I assume that

comment was aimed at me. My comment was
SO OBVIOUSLY A JOKE (did you not see the :) ) that I can't
imagine how anyone could take it any other way.
Ya gotta lighten up a bit folks.
This is the The Villages, THE HAPPY PLACE!


Here, I'll explain it in detail:
FONT was BLUE so that represented the guys on the left.
Text was RIGHT JUSTIFIED which was a play on words for the folks on the RIGHT.




That created a pseudo-confusing play on words situation trying to determine ones political standing from how they write a message that had NOTHING to do with politics.





Geez, this place can make you nuts. I gotta go take a Valium.




:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Northwoods
09-08-2019, 09:09 PM
One thing I see that has changed. Posts that are intended to be funny or some with a little cutting edge are quickly deleted.
Yet, some posters that post paragraph after paragraph saying the same in a slightly different way...add nothing.
Some can post snarky and not get deleted others posting similar posts are again quickly deleted.

TOTALLY AGREE!!!! :clap2:

Velvet
09-08-2019, 09:43 PM
:1rotfl::1rotfl:K, I believe you about the fonts, etc Ed.

JimJohnson
09-09-2019, 03:35 AM
You can use the Private Message function to ask your question, I have done this many times for similar reasons. If you are not familiar with this, go to the posters name and click you should get a drop down menu with several options, one will be the private message.

I have never had any problem on the regular forum, but was accused of being a woman using a mans name on private messaging. I contacted the administrator and it was taken care of and I have not heard from her since. Keep doing what your doing admin.

jebartle
09-09-2019, 03:53 AM
Respect for honesty,...truth, and especially each other goes a long way
:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

xcaligirl
09-09-2019, 07:25 AM
I can’t speak to what was, but this trend is every where not just at TOTV. It is like a cancer spreading through our country.

Sad but true...
Very true! TOTV was very nice when I first arrived 5 years ago and has declined. Seems like it's "cool" for people to hide behind a computer/laptop/phone and be rude because they're so miserable! However, it does also show on the roads, golf cart paths, multi paths, etc. Way too many people are think they are entitled...

xcaligirl
09-09-2019, 07:29 AM
I have "felt" the change. Is it now owned by the relative of the long time owner who is a car dealer in Atlanta? The fellow who owned a cart repair business?

I feel it is completely different than it used to be.
When I first got here, Gracie Girl was the first person to 'welcome me'. That was 5 years ago and I've never forgotten your kindness!! We need more of your type here.

champion6
09-09-2019, 08:27 AM
I think TOTV needs to add a SARCASM icon, gif, emoji - whatever you want to call it.

A smaller version of this would be inserted by the poster:
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/champion6-12087/albums/forum-posts/8851-sarcasm.gif

Obviously, sarcastic remarks are frequently included in posts. What the poster forgets is the fact that readers can't detect the intent of sarcasm because we can't hear or see the clues that exist when we communicate face-to-face. Readers misinterpret the sarcastic remarks as fact and the fireworks follow.

Martian
09-09-2019, 08:44 AM
I think TOTV needs to add a SARCASM icon, gif, emoji - whatever you want to call it.

A smaller version of this would be inserted by the poster:
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/champion6-12087/albums/forum-posts/8851-sarcasm.gif

Obviously, sarcastic remarks are frequently included in posts. What the poster forgets is the fact that readers can't detect the intent of sarcasm because we can't hear or see the clues that exist when we communicate face-to-face. Readers misinterpret the sarcastic remarks as fact and the fireworks follow.

What you define is generally known as "Poe's Law".

Poe's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)

TOTV Team
09-09-2019, 09:01 AM
I have "felt" the change. Is it now owned by the relative of the long time owner who is a car dealer in Atlanta? The fellow who owned a cart repair business?

I feel it is completely different than it used to be.

Not sure where you get your information from but that is completely incorrect. Ownership hasn't changed for 10 years. Moderators the same for half that time.

If there is an issue with a post that violates the site rules there is a red triangle in the upper right where you can send that to the moderators. This is only for site rule violations and not that someone irritates one though.

TOTV Team
09-09-2019, 09:03 AM
I just put some posters on the Ignore List if they have a habit of making that kind of response to legitimate concerns.

If a user irritates you this is the best way to manage them. Thanks for the reminders on this!

TOTV Team
09-09-2019, 09:11 AM
I get deleted about twice a week. It is because I dont like The Villages GPS and I am vocal about it... oh well...

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You've made your opinion known but out of respect for the GPS the forum can't be a sounding board for ones opinion over and over. There have been over 30,000 downloads of the GPS App. It is the most successful GPS App ever in The Villages. What may be helpful is to stay in touch with them at: villagesgps@gmail.com and let them know specifics that can improve the app as I know they are always making improvements, updates, and want to hear the feedback.

TOTV Team
09-09-2019, 09:12 AM
I wish we could rep posts. This is a huge deal. You ask a question, and they answer a question you never asked - and you have to remind them you just want the question you asked, answered - and around and around it goes til you get frustrated and people start getting nasty because they're "only trying to help and you should maybe just not move to the Villages."

What does this mean 'rep posts'?

Martian
09-09-2019, 09:30 AM
What does this mean 'rep posts'?

"Rep post" refers to giving positive or negative reputation to posts, similar to liking or disliking, but with values added to a total, as opposed to just yes/no.

The intent it to show much a post (poster?) is liked or respected, as opposed to just black and white - liked or disliked.

Velvet
09-09-2019, 10:31 AM
"Rep post" refers to giving positive or negative reputation to posts, similar to liking or disliking, but with values added to a total, as opposed to just yes/no.

The intent it to show much a post (poster?) is liked or respected, as opposed to just black and white - liked or disliked.

Yikes! Talk about Facebook etc brainwashing people. They only did the ‘liking’ etc for advertising information mining.

I personally have a hard time with the ex p lady K culture of needing to be famous and popular.

I had a Chinese neighbor next door in his 90’s. On a very slippery, icy morning I was trying to drag out the trash can out unsuccessfully and he offered to do it for me! Of course I would not let him. He was a very quiet, not ‘famous’ or ‘popular’ type of person who spoke almost no English. He would not have gotten many ‘likes’ on his posts.

Martian
09-09-2019, 10:34 AM
Yikes! Talk about Facebook etc brainwashing people. They only did the ‘like’ etc for advertising information mining.

I personally have a hard time with the ex p lady K culture of needing to be famous and popular.

I had a Chinese neighbor next door in his 90’s. On a very slippery, icy morning I was trying to drag out the trash can out unsuccessfully and he offered to do it for me! Of course I would not let him. He was a very quiet, not ‘famous’ or ‘popular’ type of person who spoke almost no English. He would not have gotten many ‘likes’ on his posts.

Not to disappoint but reputation and forums seriously predates Facebook. And yes, EVERYTHING Facebook does is to make money off people.

Velvet
09-09-2019, 10:43 AM
Not to disappoint but reputation and forums seriously predates Facebook. And yes, EVERYTHING Facebook does is to make money off people.

That just makes me laugh, reputation needs to be earned in real life for something. It can be for writing, like Sir Victor Hugo etc. in my opinion.

Martian
09-09-2019, 10:50 AM
That just makes me laugh, reputation needs to be earned in real life for something. It can be for writing, like Sir Victor Hugo etc. in my opinion.

It's called an analogy.

Martian
09-09-2019, 10:54 AM
It is called an analogy because it is intended to reflect the "reputation" a person gets with their peers on the forum by way of their posts. Many people erroneously believe that what they do or say on the internet does not affect them in real life - however, it can and does.

Velvet
09-09-2019, 10:56 AM
Sorry, to clarify, I’m not laughing at your post, I’m laughing at the concept of popularity. My hubby was brought up in that type of culture here and he is really good at it. I’m European, very different values, but we compliment each other.

You sound authentic and sincere, and I have to confess TOTV is basically the only social media forum I post on. I have no patience with google asking for my phone number, Apple for my finger print, etc etc. not their business. And I personally really don’t care what they think if me. I just find it attempts to manipulate me and I’m allergic to that. So I’m a bit surprised when someone is influenced by what someone they don’t know thinks?

Martian
09-09-2019, 11:02 AM
Sorry, to clarify, I’m not laughing at your post, I’m laughing at the concept of popularity. My hubby was brought up in that type of culture here and he is really good at it. I’m European, very different values, but we compliment each other.

:coolsmiley:

Bogie Shooter
09-09-2019, 01:17 PM
"Rep post" refers to giving positive or negative reputation to posts, similar to liking or disliking, but with values added to a total, as opposed to just yes/no.

The intent it to show much a post (poster?) is liked or respected, as opposed to just black and white - liked or disliked.

Oh boy, a popularity contest...………………………..:a040:

Bogie Shooter
09-09-2019, 01:19 PM
Where do I vote the dislikes?

Martian
09-09-2019, 01:24 PM
Oh boy, a popularity contest...………………………..:a040:

Sadly, that is often the result and why many sites just don't bother with them.

In a mature environment (some professional forums I am a member of) it works well. It is a way to help weed useless posts from searches for example.

But, if is ends up just being a popularity contest, no one benefits.

JimJohnson
09-09-2019, 01:54 PM
Well, I like TOTV and it has been a great source of information for us over the years. If I had any complaint, it Would be about the folks with thousands of posts that seem to feel empowered by their longevity. No offense, but some of the old timers seem to act like they deserve special treatment. Thank you TOTV for fair and impartial treatment of all of us. Now please stop this bickering and be kind neighbors. We live in paradise, let’s act like it and enjoy this wonderful place.
.

Martian
09-09-2019, 01:57 PM
Well, I like TOTV and it has been a great source of information for us over the years. If I had any complaint, it Would be about the folks with thousands of posts that seem to feel empowered by their longevity. No offense, but some of the old timers seem to act like they deserve special treatment. Thank you TOTV for fair and impartial treatment of all of us. Now please stop this bickering and be kind neighbors. We live in paradise, let’s act like it and enjoy this wonderful place.
.

:coolsmiley:
:pray:

ColdNoMore
09-09-2019, 02:49 PM
Sorry, to clarify, I’m not laughing at your post, I’m laughing at the concept of popularity. My hubby was brought up in that type of culture here and he is really good at it. I’m European, very different values, but we compliment each other.

You sound authentic and sincere, and I have to confess TOTV is basically the only social media forum I post on. I have no patience with google asking for my phone number, Apple for my finger print, etc etc. not their business. And I personally really don’t care what they think if me. I just find it attempts to manipulate me and I’m allergic to that. So I’m a bit surprised when someone is influenced by what someone they don’t know thinks?

Yep.

Some people are almost debilitatingly insecure...and need to feel "popular."

It's like Facebook users who have hundreds and hundreds... of "friends." :oops:

Sorry to break the news, but when someone shows that many supposed friends, those aren't really friends...they're simply 'acquaintances.'

And so very often...barely even qualify as that.

But hey, if you need to delude yourself, so as to feel better due to whatever it is that's missing in your real life...then that's your prerogative. :ohdear:

However, one can't but help...to feel a bit sorry for those folks.

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-09-2019, 05:51 PM
What does this mean 'rep posts'?

In the context I was thinking, there are fora where you can click a button on a post that you particularly liked or agreed with, and it would add a point or two to the writer's "rep."

In one specific forum I contribute to, the rep is coded such that you can't "negatively" rep someone (as in the reddit "dislike" option), and once you have added to someone's reputation, you can't add any more until you've "spread the love" to others. You are also limited to how many reps you can add to in 24 hours, which prevents trolls and bots and clique-members from unfairly manipulating the system.

So no, it ends up not being a popularity thing, if it's coded right.

I've been a member, a contributor, a moderator, and an admin of several fora over the years and I've been active in fora since the days of the BBS systems (back in the early 1990's).

wereback
09-09-2019, 08:16 PM
Reading the last few posts I now know exactly what has happened to talk of the villages just read back and think about it. Not yourselves like always.

Northwoods
09-09-2019, 09:48 PM
Not sure where you get your information from but that is completely incorrect. Ownership hasn't changed for 10 years. Moderators the same for half that time.

If there is an issue with a post that violates the site rules there is a red triangle in the upper right where you can send that to the moderators. This is only for site rule violations and not that someone irritates one though.
I do feel that there seems to be an inequity or favoritism with posters. I've posted my opinion and had it deleted. I've seen other posters... where I have been totally insulted by the posting... and those seem to get a pass. I had more to say... but I'm sure the Moderator would delete my post. So I will leave it at that.

Two Bills
09-10-2019, 04:00 AM
I do feel that there seems to be an inequity or favoritism with posters. I've posted my opinion and had it deleted. I've seen other posters... where I have been totally insulted by the posting... and those seem to get a pass. I had more to say... but I'm sure the Moderator would delete my post. So I will leave it at that.


Maybe you were arguing with the Moderator?:icon_wink:

Bay Kid
09-10-2019, 06:17 AM
Love and peace to all.