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aletarw
09-13-2019, 07:47 AM
Just bought a house that does not have gas. I do not like cooking on electric stoves. So, I want to see if I can have gas installed.

I was told that I can get gas company to install a tank, but have not gotten through to them yet.

Anyone have experience installing gas in house? House is in Hacienda South in Sumter County.

hvacgolfer
09-13-2019, 07:57 AM
Be very mindful of all that is going on when you install LP or "bottled gas" in your home. To start with the tank has to be buried. When the line is run from the tank to the house that line should be pressure tested. One of the properties of bottled gas is that it is heavier than air and should it escape in close spaces it will collect at floor level. You want to make sure with a pressure test that the line is leak free. When you get your new gas appliance make sure the regulator (on the appliance) is designed for bottled gas (as compared to natural gas). And, using bottled gas in cooking... it generally creates a hotter flame as compared to natural gas. Very easy to unintentionly burn food.

shaboobie
09-13-2019, 08:43 AM
We installed a 250 gal propane tank last year. The company got all the permits and buried the tank, and hooked it up to the new stove top. We bought the stove top on line. We also hooked up our summer kitchen grill. All this was done in a day and a half. The total cost for everything including the propane was $3500 plus the stove top of $1000. (If you have a combo stove and oven that will cost you about $600 vs $1000 for the stove top alone.

vintageogauge
09-13-2019, 09:03 AM
I'm with you on gas cooking but maybe research the newest in electric cooking that is more easily controlled and save the cost of putting in a tank, etc.

villagetinker
09-13-2019, 09:10 AM
OP, ask questions about the routing of the gas line(s) if your kitchen does not have an outside wall, the installers typically run the line(s) in the attic. There were reports a few years ago about fires due to problems with the flexible gas lines in the attic, so be sure the newest materials are used and installed per code. I would have an independent inspector double check.

I will propose an alternative, you might want to look into induction cooking. You need special cookware, but it is supposed to closely mimic gas cooking.

Chatbrat
09-13-2019, 10:27 AM
Gas vs electric--gas is great for stove top cooking--electric is great for oven use--notice if you manage to view all the cooking shows on cable, when was the last time you saw a chef using electric?

V&VofWV
09-13-2019, 10:51 AM
We don't like electric ranges either. Bought an Electrolux induction range. As Villagetinker says, you do have to use cookware that has a steel core. Aluminum cookware will not work. Despite the cost of the range which was fairly expensive,, and new cookware, it is still much cheaper than installing propane. Operating characteristics much like a gas range. We are extremely pleased with it.

retiredguy123
09-13-2019, 12:30 PM
We don't like electric ranges either. Bought an Electrolux induction range. As Villagetinker says, you do have to use cookware that has a steel core. Aluminum cookware will not work. Despite the cost of the range which was fairly expensive,, and new cookware, it is still much cheaper than installing propane. Operating characteristics much like a gas range. We are extremely pleased with it.
They sell a lot of aluminum cookware with a flat steel bottom that is compatible with an induction range.

vintageogauge
09-13-2019, 01:46 PM
They sell a lot of aluminum cookware with a flat steel bottom that is compatible with an induction range.

They have to be magnetic to work properly.

V&VofWV
09-13-2019, 02:15 PM
Pots and pans are not magnetic. They must have a ferrous core or ferrous plate attached to the bottom of the item to work. Magnets will be attracted to ferrous metal, but the pan or pot its self is not magnetic!!

bluedivergirl
09-14-2019, 09:25 AM
We don't like electric ranges either. Bought an Electrolux induction range. As Villagetinker says, you do have to use cookware that has a steel core. Aluminum cookware will not work. Despite the cost of the range which was fairly expensive,, and new cookware, it is still much cheaper than installing propane. Operating characteristics much like a gas range. We are extremely pleased with it.

I also purchased an Induction range ~ mine is a Samsung. Two years in, works like charm.

Another plus ~ Induction heats the pan, not the air. A good thing in Florida!

I have cooked with natural gas and propane. The Induction is very similar and my range is intuitive. Zero learning curve.

ETA: My range cost @ $3,000.00, with no additional wiring or changes to the kitchen.

retiredguy123
09-14-2019, 12:41 PM
Pots and pans are not magnetic. They must have a ferrous core or ferrous plate attached to the bottom of the item to work. Magnets will be attracted to ferrous metal, but the pan or pot its self is not magnetic!!
I just know that, if you like aluminum cookware, they sell it with a steel flat bottom and the manufacturer claims that it is compatible with induction ranges.

xkeowner
09-14-2019, 01:19 PM
We have had a propane in ground (PIG) for eight plus years for our stove, outdoor grill and smoker. Also, did the same process at our home in Virginia. Don't remember the installation cost here but Suburban took care of everything and we are on a budget bill of $25 per month.

A previous poster was correct that most stoves come configured for natural gas but most also either have the parts required for conversion included or available for purchase at a reasonable. We are on our second stove because we recently upgraded to SS but I converted and installed both stoves which is a rather simple process.

While this may not be all inclusive it is usually only three steps. 1. Convert the pressure regulator which usually involves re3moving a screw-on cap, turning a spacer over and replacing the cap. 2. Replacing the screw in jets on each burner and the oven with the propane jets. 3. Connect to the supply line and check for leaks using soapy water. Burners may require some adjustment for flame height but that also is a simple process.

Full disclosure, I am not a certified plumber but have worked for a natural gas company and converted appliance the other direction from propane to natural gas in that job.

aletarw
09-18-2019, 11:16 AM
Gas company will not install UNLESS there is already gas in the area. If you can get through to TECO via its phone tree, they will refer you to a propane company.

justjim
09-18-2019, 11:48 AM
We didn’t like electric range at first but got use to it now and like it just fine. Would not change for any price.

Aloha1
09-18-2019, 03:43 PM
Electric is inferior to gas. When we bought our lot in Pine Ridge, there was no natural gas supplier for the area. No problem, we installed an in ground LP tank with no hassles. Our home on Maui used the same set up (LP) for 11 years with no issues. My TOTAL cost for gas here after 3 years for LP is less than $300 (feeds the cook top and summer kitchen). I get the heat I want when I want and the cool down I need at the moment I need. Can use any cookware I prefer. Easy peezey.

DAVES
09-21-2019, 10:39 AM
We didn’t like electric range at first but got use to it now and like it just fine. Would not change for any price.

Our previous home was gas cooking. We had a natural gas line. A colder climate than Florida and we had converted from oil heat to gas heat.

Here we do not have a gas line. I am aware of two neighbors with buried LP gas tanks.

I do fine that electric cooking is more subject to burning. Our system at all settings it does not lower the heat just the time that it is on. Low heat is on then off, then on again. Solution is
heavy quality pans. Also, you can buy a pad kind of thing to put your pots on top of. I made my own by cutting the bottom off an old copper fry pan. It needs to fit the pot you are using.
????? You might need several different sizes. You want thick copper so will likely need to buy an antique fry pan. It works just fine.

Viperguy
09-22-2019, 06:31 AM
Most all of the higher quality stainless IS induction capable, and if you use cast iron enamel it is perfect. Many of the cheaper aluminum pans are coming out with an induction capable bottom if you prefer them. I have been using induction for over a year and it is fantastic, very fast, clean, and safe. The stove top is not hot when you turn it off and it cleans easy as the top is a glass material. Very popular in Europe where gas is not prevalent. Absolutely the best choice IMHO.

aletarw
10-02-2019, 04:10 PM
250 gallons seems like alot! Why so big?

aletarw
10-02-2019, 04:12 PM
I am frequently chastising my peers who are so stuck in the past that they won't consider other options.

In this case, I am truly stuck in the past. I LOVE COOKING WITH GAS.

Now working with a propane company to see if I can get my way.

Stay tuned.

aletarw
10-02-2019, 04:14 PM
Still researching.... So far I have found that it can be EITHER above or below ground. Just want enough gas for occasional cooking.

When I get the results of my research or when I give up... I'll post here.

aletarw
10-02-2019, 04:18 PM
I appreciate your response. I found that "reports of fires" usually point back to one instance so I'm not convinced that fires are a frequent occurrence.

We think a licensed contractor/plumber can punch a whole through wall.... run pipe through wall and to the back of stove.... WALA!

Stay tuned.

Aloha1
10-02-2019, 08:19 PM
My suggestion is contact T&D.They have a gas subsidiary plus they are one of the largest builders in TV.They put in LP tanks all the time. I highly recommend you put in an underground tank. Out of site and a line can be run to the kitchen. I only have a 125 gallon in ground tank and I've filled it once in 3 years. Do all my cooking and my BBQ grill with it.

bilcon
10-03-2019, 06:48 AM
Buy a good gas grill and save a lot of headache. Ha! Ha!

Fast Freddy
10-03-2019, 07:03 AM
Can a propane tank be installed in the garage then a line run into the cooktop area?

Chatbrat
10-03-2019, 07:23 AM
Never, ever have propane tank in your garage-if it leaks--flip a light switch or start a car or cart--KABOOM--on our boat propane tanks were kept on the swim platform

Aloha1
10-03-2019, 08:21 AM
Can a propane tank be installed in the garage then a line run into the cooktop area?

NO!