50 neighbors

[Chatbrat]

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

[JSR22]

50 houses yikes! What were thy reported for? Figurines, crosses, political signs etc.?

[Chatbrat]

All of the above--what a nut job ?

[alwann]

Yeah, probably. Or suffering from dementia. Although, if one wanted changes in the policy, one way to get attention could be to overwhelm the powers that be.

[manaboutown]

I wonder where she resides and what her yard looks like. It only takes one crank to cause many people grief as we all know.

[JSR22]

I can not fathom why anyone would waste their time looking for lawn violations.

[graciegirl]

All of the above--what a nut job ?

They can be reported, but if there is no deed restriction violation than there is no letter and no fine. So. There were fifty violations? Are you sure? Or is this an urban rumor that you read on the site? How did anyone know she reported fifty people? The deed compliance people don't report things like that as to number etc.

People can report things but things have to be in violation before anything is done at all.

[njbchbum]

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

And what do you suggest the person who finds her do? Confrontation? Retribution? Retaliation? Violence?

[Chatbrat]

Just follow her to her lair and remove he anonymity--

[Chatbrat]

Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom

[Rango]

:popcorn:

[justjim]

OP, if the number is accurate, this person did a lot of work to fill out forms on 50 houses with specific deed restrictions for each home and address. In my Village, it would not be difficult to find a number similar to 50 who technically violated a deed restrictions. Who of us would even want to do that much paperwork? That “boggles” your mind. Fore.

[Chatbrat]

Very easy for a driven "nut "

[graciegirl]

Very easy for a driven "nut "

If the people had deed violations than she is doing a public service. I am skeptical about fifty people being reported. Can you copy and paste the message that said this happened? You can remove the original posters name.

[pacjag]

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.



Or maybe she is looking out for the rest of us by exposing the scofflaws that hide amongst us.

[ColdNoMore]

And what do you suggest the person who finds her do? Confrontation? Retribution? Retaliation? Violence?

Exactly.

[Mikeod]

According to an article on the “news” site a week or so ago, a person who was reported for white cross violation threatened to do what you say this lady was doing. They were going to drive through multiple villages recording everything they considered a violation.

However, if what is reported to the district is not a violation, nothing happens. If it is, it is.

[ColdNoMore]

Just follow her to her lair and remove he anonymity--

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:

[ColdNoMore]

Or maybe she is looking out for the rest of us by exposing the scofflaws that hide amongst us.

:thumbup:

[vintageogauge]

More power to her, maybe if more people would do that there would no longer be infractions. I have no problem with it, personally I wouldn't do it as I'm too lazy, I don't mind other people doing it for me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

They can be reported, but if there is no deed restriction violation than there is no letter and no fine. So. There were fifty violations? Are you sure? Or is this an urban rumor that you read on the site? How did anyone know she reported fifty people? The deed compliance people don't report things like that as to number etc.

People can report things but things have to be in violation before anything is done at all.

That is not true. EVERY SINGLE REPORT is investigated. If someone makes 50 totally fake and frivolous reports against 50 different properties, then Community Standards has to check out every single one of them, to determine if a) it's legit and b) if it is, what to do about it.

Thanks to anonymous reporting, anyone can report anyone, for anything, whether it's an actual violation or not, and get away with it. Every single time.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:


This is exactly why I don't think the property owner should have access to the complainer's personally identifying information.

But Community Standards absolutely should have that information, to protect themselves, and to ensure there's some measure of accountability. If this turns out to a total nut-job, and 80% of those reports are fake and made up, then they need to be able to tell the nut-job to cease and desist. They can't do that, if they don't know who it is.

[villagetinker]

They can be reported, but if there is no deed restriction violation than there is no letter and no fine. So. There were fifty violations? Are you sure? Or is this an urban rumor that you read on the site? How did anyone know she reported fifty people? The deed compliance people don't report things like that as to number etc.

People can report things but things have to be in violation before anything is done at all.

Having been the recipient of a complaint, I asked the community standards person when they came by, and was told there were over 30 complaints in our neighborhood...............
PS the items that were in the complaint were out for almost 6 years, and I know none of the neighbors made the complaints............

[Velvet]

These violations can be seen from outside only?

[coffeebean]

Can anyone go into people's back yards to check for violations or is that considered trespassing?

Are there violations that can be reported for anything in back yards? Let me rephrase that.........are there deed restrictions for back yards? ie: height of shrubs

[patfla06]

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:



I’m having a hard time understanding the need to find out who did the reporting.

If you are following the rules you have nothing to worry about.

I think this matter is a slippery slope and we seem to be blaming the wrong people.

Neighbors have the right to report noncompliance.
But wanting to out the person is disturbing.

:ohdear:

[Chi-Town]

50 rule violators in one neighborhood. Such a nice round number.

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[Daddymac]

Is this all about the white cross ✝️ people have out ????

[graciegirl]

That is not true. EVERY SINGLE REPORT is investigated. If someone makes 50 totally fake and frivolous reports against 50 different properties, then Community Standards has to check out every single one of them, to determine if a) it's legit and b) if it is, what to do about it.

Thanks to anonymous reporting, anyone can report anyone, for anything, whether it's an actual violation or not, and get away with it. Every single time.

Perhaps Jazuela, you know better than I if the deed restriction people report the number of reports they have received from one person to the public. I have never heard they reported it to the community. The last time I reported someone who had a battalion of flower pots on top of cement blocks covering their entire driveway on both sides, the fellow who took the call was very talkative. (I thought he was too forthcoming, to be frank) They do of course check out each report and if there is no broken rule, no infringement. NOTHING HAPPENS. NO letter, no warning and no fine.

We had friends who had a Hillary sign out in their front yard before the last election. Someone reported them and they had to put it inside. Many times people get permission for some ornaments. Some are very lovely.

I am pleased to hear when someone reports a deed restriction. It keeps the whole area looking nice.

People get themselves all riled up about a slew of things. I remember when someone on this Forum was beefing about older people driving Corvettes.

[Nucky]

What the use?? Whichever way you see this and post your opinion this is easy pickings for someone to bury you by going with the opposite view. I think maybe some people are more accustomed to retribution, payback, eye for an eye etc! I think the environment you were raised in may determine your outlook. Sorta reminds me of a song that is probably not too popular with our contemporaries. Here goes anyway! Maybe the complainer is Sexually Frustrated? Who Knows?

AC/DC Dirty Deeds Lyrics & Song. Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (Official Video – AC/DC Live) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/cAk4OAAzZBs) Meant for Comic Relief Strictly!

I would let this thing run its course and refrain from any payback. We are retired and it all just doesn't see to be worth it. Peace Out! It's all free entertainment, cause it isn't happening to me! :1rotfl:

[Velvet]

Not sure if Bon Scott had the little white crosses in mind in Dirty Deeds.

[DougB]

Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom

Well, if it was reported in your village chat room, it must be true.

[Bay Kid]

She must be a very sad, unhappy person.

[Chellybean]

If the people had deed violations than she is doing a public service. I am skeptical about fifty people being reported. Can you copy and paste the message that said this happened? You can remove the original posters name.

I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!

[Vikingjunior]

I can not fathom why anyone would waste their time looking for lawn violations.

I’ve been reported over 20 times for alleged weeds, if you saw how tiny the weeds were you would laugh you head off.

[karostay]

CNN has infiltrated TOTV

[bilcon]

:bigbow:Yikes, I thought the wicked witch was destroyed in "The Wizard of Oz".

[graciegirl]

I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!

If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.

[Trayderjoe]

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:



1000% agree.

Instead of blaming the "symptom", why not address the cause? If people have deed restriction violations, then the cause is their lack of following rules which THEY AGREED TO when they bought their home.

If there were 50 reported violations in one neighborhood, how many turned out to be false? All of them? None of them? Or somewhere in between? And whether or not the violation existed for any lengthy period of time is completely irrelevant-it just means that a violator ignored the contract they signed for a period longer than someone reported sooner.

[Papa]

If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.

Well said.

[champion6]

Well according to our neighborhood chat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again, look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodleIt's unclear what "our neighborhood chat room" is.

However, on nextdoor.com, this was posted on Sept. 11:
"Ok Buttonwood neighbors, it seems a troll has struck our neighborhood. Today I received the dreaded call from Community Standards regarding a few lawn ornaments. I was told I was number 8 out of 50 complaints they received and they would not reveal the name of the one person making the complaints. All 50 were made by the same person. I’m guessing this person has no life and probably no friends. We will find out the identity of this person so to all that got hit, remember don’t get mad, get even."

Are we to believe that 50 Tamarind Grove homes and 50 Buttonwood homes have been reported? 100 homes reported in two groups of 50? Or 50 homes in Tamarind Grove and Buttonwood combined? Or ... WHO THE HE!! CARES.

[Taltarzac725]

It's unclear what "our neighborhood chat room" is.

However, on nextdoor.com, this was posted on Sept. 11:
"Ok Buttonwood neighbors, it seems a troll has struck our neighborhood. Today I received the dreaded call from Community Standards regarding a few lawn ornaments. I was told I was number 8 out of 50 complaints they received and they would not reveal the name of the one person making the complaints. All 50 were made by the same person. I’m guessing this person has no life and probably no friends. We will find out the identity of this person so to all that got hit, remember don’t get mad, get even."

Are we to believe that 50 Tamarind Grove homes and 50 Buttonwood homes have been reported? 100 homes reported in two groups of 50? Or 50 homes in Tamarind Grove and Buttonwood combined? Or ... WHO THE HE!! CARES.

That is odd. I wonder why she/he stopped at 50?

Good that Community Standards was just calling the people to see if there were actually any problems with the law ornaments. That saves a lot of gas and time.

They should be anonymous though just in case there is something do some of these complaints. Some people can be quite vindictive.

[karostay]

I've been sited twice
Each time the complaint was unfounded..Contacted by community standards Via phone
My response was they should actually verify a complaint before calling and looking foolish

[CFrance]

Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom
She may have made these complaints via email. If so, you can demand a copy of the email under the Florida Sunshine law. Years ago someone from a neighboring village rode through Tamarind Grove and noted violations. That person then emailed the addresses and types of violation to deed compliance. Someone else went after the email and had to be given a copy of it. It was a woman from Buttonwood.


I'm so thankful for our Tamarind Grove CYV with stone landscaping and walls. But even in our Tamarind Grove designer, we just followed the rules. Easy peasy.

[graciegirl]

It's unclear what "our neighborhood chat room" is.

However, on nextdoor.com, this was posted on Sept. 11:
"Ok Buttonwood neighbors, it seems a troll has struck our neighborhood. Today I received the dreaded call from Community Standards regarding a few lawn ornaments. I was told I was number 8 out of 50 complaints they received and they would not reveal the name of the one person making the complaints. All 50 were made by the same person. I’m guessing this person has no life and probably no friends. We will find out the identity of this person so to all that got hit, remember don’t get mad, get even."

Are we to believe that 50 Tamarind Grove homes and 50 Buttonwood homes have been reported? 100 homes reported in two groups of 50? Or 50 homes in Tamarind Grove and Buttonwood combined? Or ... WHO THE HE!! CARES.

Thank you Champion. That clears that part up at least.

[NotGolfer]

This whole subject has been beaten up and chewed and spit out all over the social media plus local "news" site way too much. In my opinion, all it does is stir up people's BP. I agree that trolls just need to find a hobby (other than doing this) BUT........there are so many ways to go with this. :popcorn: :boxing2:

[Velvet]

“A few lawn ornaments” do you get fined for each ornament separately?

The past owner left a couple of things on my front bed. Kind of hidden but if you’re weeding you can find them.

[vintageogauge]

I’ve been reported over 20 times for alleged weeds, if you saw how tiny the weeds were you would laugh you head off.

You sound proud of your weeds.

[Chellybean]

If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.

Again Gracie i think you are missing the point, your opinion may be your opinion and no one else in the neighborhood. If you don't live in that neighborhood then mind your own business. It is mean spirited no matter what way you look at it when someone goes around to report other neighborhoods infraction. Their life must be filled with hatred and very unhappy person, JMHO

[tophcfa]

Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.

[Chellybean]

Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.

That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

[Velvet]

That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

This puzzles me, so if you have money a lawn ornament is not a lawn ornament? And does the fine increase with each further infraction if you’re (what in Europe is referred to as a “peasant”)?

[Chellybean]

This puzzles me, so if you have money a lawn ornament is not a lawn ornament? And does the fine increase with each further infraction if you’re (what in Europe is referred to as a “peasant”)?

i am not understanding your point? my reference was to complaint driven to selective enforcement lawsuit.

[Velvet]

I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

[Bogie Shooter]

I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

https://districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/images/ARC%20Deed%20Compliance%20Process.pdf

[biker1]

I believe it is actually quite the opposite. From a selective enforcement legal point of view, we are better off with a complaint driven system as long as all complaints are investigated and uniformly acted on. With the current system, Community Standards isn't responsible for monitoring. If they were responsible for monitoring, missed infractions could be the basis for selective enforcement legal actions.

That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

[njbchbum]

I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

Since you are not aware of the rule/regs re deed compliance, perhaps these websites will provide that info for you:

https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/communityStandardsFAQ.pdf

VCDD Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/DistrictAdoptedRules.aspx)

VCDD Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/DistrictAdoptedRules.aspx)

[Velvet]

Wow, the process to resolve the lawn ornament situation if it is followed, seems quite fair, in my opinion.

[graciegirl]

I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

NO one can complain about your flower bed if it is not pretty or has the Dahlias too close to the Hibiscus. NO objects or statuary or signs are allowed without asking community standards for permission and getting it first. If something is reported without permission, then it much be removed or you will be fined until you remove it or put it under your eaves. I think that the wealth referred to was about The Morses who put these rules in place. Check your deed restrictions. All people who don't like them, please don't move here. We have gobs aplenty who like them fine.

God save the King.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wow, the process to resolve the lawn ornament situation if it is followed, seems quite fair, in my opinion.

Isn't it amazing what a few facts will do to an opinion?

[CWGUY]

I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

Since you are not aware of the rule/regs re deed compliance, perhaps these websites will provide that info for you:

https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/communityStandardsFAQ.pdf

VCDD Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/DistrictAdoptedRules.aspx)

VCDD Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/DistrictAdoptedRules.aspx)

:icon_wink: These are links to good information...... information people should read before buying.

And if you are not sure Velvet you live in District 6 or you own in District 6. :ho:

[Velvet]

Thank you for all the information. I did not get the deed restriction til about 2 months after closing... but my relatives lived in different parts of TV for 30 years before they passed away. Never had a problem they thought was worth mentioning about lawn ornaments.

[karostay]

Next thing ya know someone will want to put an addition on there garage

[njbchbum]

Thank you for all the information. I did not get the deed restriction til about 2 months after closing... but my relatives lived in different parts of TV for 30 years before they passed away. Never had a problem they thought was worth mentioning about lawn ornaments.

Dunno know where your relatives lived - but - there are no deed restrictions on the properties in the Historic Villages - Country Club Hills, Orange Blossom Gardens and Silver Lake. Folks can display to their hearts content - and they do! lol

[Velvet]

One lived in the historic area and the other lived in district 1. I think they weren’t big into displays anyways.

I was interested in this thread because the person I bought from had dementia and left 2 small items in the front for bed; a weathervane among the bushes so small you can’t see, and a planter, then one more empty planter at the back. I thought they’d take them before closing but they just left them and I closed remotely. And someone stole a bush from the front, and a brick, they could have taken the planters....

[graciegirl]

One lived in the historic area and the other lived in district 1. I think they weren’t big into displays anyways.

I was interested in this thread because the person I bought from had dementia and left 2 small items in the front for bed; a weathervane among the bushes so small you can’t see, and a planter, then one more empty planter at the back. I thought they’d take them before closing but they just left them and I closed remotely. And someone stole a bush from the front, and a brick, they could have taken the planters....

Do you think the person that stole a bush and a brick is the same woman who is driving a red cart and reporting deed restrictions? And yes, I am kidding.

[Velvet]

I would have given her a tip if she also took the planters.

[oldtimes]

I just find it sad that these people have nothing better to do with themselves than drive around looking for violations. How pathetic.

[billlaur]

if they are breaking the rules ,then they need to b reported....:bigbow::MOJE_whot::boom:

[manaboutown]

I just find it sad that these people have nothing better to do with themselves than drive around looking for violations. How pathetic.

I think she gets off on nosing around and causing grief for as many strangers as she can.

[billlaur]

hey chillibean, this person is doing a gr8 service to the villages,rock on ,keep it looking like it should....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.

That would still require that Community Standards knows WHO is making the complaint.

That's why I feel that one criteria alone can solve a LOT of problems. Complaint-makers should be required to identify themselves to Community Standards.

They don't have to identify themselves to anyone else, and CS shouldn't have to identify them to anyone either. The buck stops with CS.

[crash]

I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!

Totally agree ridiculous. I believe that only people in that neighborhood should be able to complain otherwise mind your own business.

[graciegirl]

That would still require that Community Standards knows WHO is making the complaint.

That's why I feel that one criteria alone can solve a LOT of problems. Complaint-makers should be required to identify themselves to Community Standards.

They don't have to identify themselves to anyone else, and CS shouldn't have to identify them to anyone either. The buck stops with CS.

I don't know if that is how it is or not. I have identified myself when I made the call. However, what you seem to think is that there is process to change the procedure. There isn't.

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[seoulbrooks]

Agree with patfla06. Just follow the deed restrictions. Nothing to worry about, they can report all they like. Seems like a lot of talk trying to reflect the wrong in the wrong direction. You are in compliance with your deed restrictions or you are not. If you want them changed follow the process, don't just stick something in your yard and complain about someone reporting or using the excuse my neighbors like "it", or my neighbors do "it". Get a Life......

[mills3186]

Find out where she lives and put a bunch of lawn ornaments in her yard (late some night)

[Villageswimmer]

That would still require that Community Standards knows WHO is making the complaint.

That's why I feel that one criteria alone can solve a LOT of problems. Complaint-makers should be required to identify themselves to Community Standards.

They don't have to identify themselves to anyone else, and CS shouldn't have to identify them to anyone either. The buck stops with CS.


Okay. Then what?

[manaboutown]

How about limiting the number of complaints any single Villager can make in a year to 5 or 10?

This wack job appears to be making at least 50 at a pop.

[Bjeanj]

I’m not getting involved in this conversation other than to comment that quite often when I am driving around in my cart, I like to stop and admire someone’s landscaping. Now I’m afraid to stop and look. Someone may think I’m writing up a complaint.

[Tom53]

Obviously this person has a limited social life and enjoys this. My suggestion to "get even" with this person is the following;

- Get you neighbors together via the private neighborhood blogs
- Wait until late evening
- All go out and remove your violations

Imagine her shock and disappointment when she comes back and finds NOTHING to report!

You'll probably never see her again, isn't worth it?

[ColdNoMore]

Obviously this person has a limited social life and enjoys this. My suggestion to "get even" with this person is the following;

- Get you neighbors together via the private neighborhood blogs
- Wait until late evening
- All go out and remove your violations

Imagine her shock and disappointment when she comes back and finds NOTHING to report!

You'll probably never see her again, isn't worth it?

I love it! :1rotfl:


:boom:

[Villageswimmer]

Obviously this person has a limited social life and enjoys this. My suggestion to "get even" with this person is the following;

- Get you neighbors together via the private neighborhood blogs
- Wait until late evening
- All go out and remove your violations

Imagine her shock and disappointment when she comes back and finds NOTHING to report!

You'll probably never see her again, isn't worth it?


Great idea.

[Bogie Shooter]

Obviously this person has a limited social life and enjoys this. My suggestion to "get even" with this person is the following;

- Get you neighbors together via the private neighborhood blogs
- Wait until late evening
- All go out and remove your violations

Imagine her shock and disappointment when she comes back and finds NOTHING to report!

You'll probably never see her again, isn't worth it?


But how would they know the violations? If they did why are they there?

[manaboutown]

When I was in high school we used to toilet paper houses, only those of other kids we knew well and liked. It was an honor to have your house TPed. Now that was in NM, a relatively arid state. With the rain in Central Florida it would make a mess and we only did it to people we liked.

Once in a while we would put standing signs from business such as 'We have clean restrooms' in a favorite teacher's driveway.

Maybe someone could follow her home to find out where she lives, and as someone previously suggested, plant her a yard full of crosses, pink flamingos, whatever. Then everyone in the whole group could individually file reports on her.

[thelegges]

Think about it, she drives up and down each street, in two villages. Writing 50 complaints in each village.

The possibility of a get even vendetta because someone turned her in, makes total sense.

However she must spend hours everyday driving up and down streets. Plus writing down each infraction.

Can you imagine when she calls community standards, how long it take to report 100 complaints. Think about working in that office phone rings, they know who is calling, and how much time they are going to have to deal with her. Instead of their regular work. The paperwork alone has to be mind boggling, much less taking each complaint. Even if she emails they still have to read them, fill out the paperwork and then distribute, to the compliance people.

Somewhere TV is going to figure out the amount of man hours one person is generating and find a better solution.

My guess is she maybe a very lonely person, thought she had friends, that turned her in. She must have felt betrayed by her neighbors, and this her her coping mechanism. Hoping she can find a better avenue to fix this, maybe volunteer at a shelter, or foster a fur baby, to take up some hours in her day.

I just feel bad for the office people.

[Villageswimmer]

Think about it, she drives up and down each street, in two villages. Writing 50 complaints in each village.

The possibility of a get even vendetta because someone turned her in, makes total sense.

However she must spend hours everyday driving up and down streets. Plus writing down each infraction.

Can you imagine when she calls community standards, how long it take to report 100 complaints. Think about working in that office phone rings, they know who is calling, and how much time they are going to have to deal with her. Instead of their regular work. The paperwork alone has to be mind boggling, much less taking each complaint. Even if she emails they still have to read them, fill out the paperwork and then distribute, to the compliance people.

Somewhere TV is going to figure out the amount of man hours one person is generating and find a better solution.

My guess is she maybe a very lonely person, thought she had friends, that turned her in. She must have felt betrayed by her neighbors, and this her her coping mechanism. Hoping she can find a better avenue to fix this, maybe volunteer at a shelter, or foster a fur baby, to take up some hours in her day.

I just feel bad for the office people.


Don’t. They get paid to deal with all kinds of nut jobs. Even those who are emotionally involved with their yard “art” to the point of seeking revenge for being asked to comply to standards they agreed to.

[manaboutown]

Think about it, she drives up and down each street, in two villages. Writing 50 complaints in each village.

The possibility of a get even vendetta because someone turned her in, makes total sense.

However she must spend hours everyday driving up and down streets. Plus writing down each infraction.

Can you imagine when she calls community standards, how long it take to report 100 complaints. Think about working in that office phone rings, they know who is calling, and how much time they are going to have to deal with her. Instead of their regular work. The paperwork alone has to be mind boggling, much less taking each complaint. Even if she emails they still have to read them, fill out the paperwork and then distribute, to the compliance people.

Somewhere TV is going to figure out the amount of man hours one person is generating and find a better solution.

My guess is she maybe a very lonely person, thought she had friends, that turned her in. She must have felt betrayed by her neighbors, and this her her coping mechanism. Hoping she can find a better avenue to fix this, maybe volunteer at a shelter, or foster a fur baby, to take up some hours in her day.

I just feel bad for the office people.

:agree: Bet they have a nickname for her!

[EdFNJ]

Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom Since it's BOTH on the Internet AND posted in your village chatroom then it absolutely must be true! LOL

I say ask for a recount. Sounds like fake news. :D

[EdFNJ]

Think about it, she drives up and down each street, in two villages. Writing 50 complaints in each village. Maybe she's on commission?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Okay. Then what?

and then, if CS finds that the same person/persons are filing frivilous complaints (complaints about things the person complaining about is making up, that aren't valid, are a total waste of CS's time and resources), or are clearly two neighbors who are catfighting and using CS as their weapon of choice, CS can confront the person making the complaints and tell them to stop it.

People on this thread are acting as though the only possible deed violations that can be complained about are statues/lawn ornaments and similar. A snowbird who isn't THERE to see that the landscaper missed a week, or a patch of grass has turned brown, can't bring the property into compliance because - he's not THERE.

If someone knows their neighbor isn't home, and has a beef with his neighbor, it's easy to call CS and complain that the grass is 1/2 inch over the max allowed. Or that there are exactly three weeds in the flower bed out front and that has to be dealt with immediately.

Or whatever else. People who make dozens of complaints in the same day, aren't just picking out statues to complain about. They're FINDING things that most people wouldn't even notice. They're looking for anything that could possibly be investigated. Or - they're flat out making things up JUST to cause trouble for someone they don't like.

CS has no way of monitoring this, because complaints are allowed to be made anonymously. CS should know exactly who is making every single complaint, and where each person complaining lives.

And - complaints should only be valid if they come from people with a valid Villages ID.

[FLSunshine]

I agree with Gracie. If everyone was following the rules then there should be no issue. If people are not following the rules they agreed to when they bought the property then it's time time to look in the mirror and stop blaming other people for your own issues. Don't agree to the rules and then get mad at someone else because you aren't doing what you're supposed to do. To look for, make comments about, and try to attack the other person is extremely childish/toddler behavior.

[coffeebean]

Good that Community Standards was just calling the people to see if there were actually any problems with the law ornaments. That saves a lot of gas and time.

I assume you mean "lawn" ornaments. To my understanding, lawn ornaments under the eaves of homes are allowed to be displayed. Lawn ornaments in any other location on the property is not allowed.

A phone call? How does that count as Community Standards checking out complaints?

[charmed59]

I think the original intent was neighbors who had to look at others yards everyday could turn them in anonymously. It’s morphed to any one in the Villages could turn in anyone anywhere else in the Villages even if it is 10 miles away on a cul-de-sac they visited once on the day they wandered with their clipboard.

When I moved my final furnishings from up north to here the movers set a yard ornament in my front yard among some boulders. About a month later I noticed it and went to pull it out to put it in the back yard. I was stopped by my neighbors who liked looking at it every morning when they got their paper. So I left it there. Six months later I got a call from community watch saying I needed to move it, as it was handed in on a complaint along with many others in the neighborhood. Now the ornament sits in my backyard, where I can see it from the pool. Didn’t cost me a thing, but my neighbors were very disappointed.

If the complaints were limited to those in the same Village I would find the rules would make much more sense.

[Spikearoni]

Maybe someone could follow her home to find out where she lives, and as someone previously suggested, plant her a yard full of crosses, pink flamingos, whatever. Then everyone in the whole group could individually file reports on her.[/QUOTE]

Now that's really funny. Thanks for the laughs.

[Biker Dog]

If the complaints were limited to those in the same Village I would find the rules would make much more sense.[/QUOTE]

:bigbow:

[roob1]

Why focus on the reporter's motivation? Again, blame-shifting!!

If 50 reports result in 10 violations being corrected, how is that NOT a public service?


I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Why focus on the reporter's motivation? Again, blame-shifting!!

If 50 reports result in 10 violations being corrected, how is that NOT a public service?

Will you feel the same when someone reports you twice a week for violations against your property, and CS has to check on you twice a week, for several months in a row to confirm that the violations are false?

[retiredguy123]

Will you feel the same when someone reports you twice a week for violations against your property, and CS has to check on you twice a week, for several months in a row to confirm that the violations are false?
Actually, I think I would. I even enjoy talking to telemarketers. I don't have any violations, but, if I did, I would want to get them fixed, and would welcome CS's help to identify them.

[600th Photo Sq]

It really is simple. We understood that The Villages is a " Deed Restricted Community " we read through the rules and felt they were reasonable and super easy to follow.

So with that, we bought our home. We have made improvements went through the process of getting them approved. We simply follow the rules.

Break the rules then face the consequences, like anything else, break the law, etc. etc it's life.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Actually, I think I would. I even enjoy talking to telemarketers. I don't have any violations, but, if I did, I would want to get them fixed, and would welcome CS's help to identify them.

In my neck of the woods, that behavior is called stalking and harassment and a judge can sign off on a cease and desist for it. There was a family in a nearby town who encountered the same kind of thing. Someone in the household was wheelchair bound, and they had a handicap-equipped van in the driveway and were building a wheelchair ramp from the front step to the driveway. A neighbor thought it was unsightly, and started complaining on a weekly basis to the zoning department about the ramp.

'They're extending it two inches too close to the sidewalk' or "the material is 1/8" too thin" or "they're digging within 10 feet of the curb"...

None of what they were saying was true, and all the work has the proper licensing and permits issued.

The neighbor was issued a cease and desist, and did it again anyway, and was arrested for violating the cease and desist order.

That is the kind of thing I'm talking about, that can happen, and possibly already IS happening to some extent, in the Villages.

[queasy27]

As has been speculated, my guess is that the person doing the reporting is someone who was turned in for his/her own violation(s), got angry about the unfairness of being singled out when others were getting away with the same thing, and decided to right those wrongs.

Honestly, I can understand that impulse better than I can homeowners who are mad at and urging a vendetta against someone who's following the reporting rules.

[BobnBev]

One lived in the historic area and the other lived in district 1. I think they weren’t big into displays anyways.

I was interested in this thread because the person I bought from had dementia and left 2 small items in the front for bed; a weathervane among the bushes so small you can’t see, and a planter, then one more empty planter at the back. I thought they’d take them before closing but they just left them and I closed remotely. And someone stole a bush from the front, and a brick, they could have taken the planters....

I thought planters were exempt.

[dillywho]

I would suggest that everyone read the restrictions for each District before a blanket accusation regarding violations is discussed. I just reread mine and many of the others. Not all have the same restrictions. Mine in District 3 differ in some areas from those in District 8, just as an example. What is a violation in one area (District) is NOT a violation in another.

[Marathon Man]

I think the original intent was neighbors who had to look at others yards everyday could turn them in anonymously. It’s morphed to any one in the Villages could turn in anyone anywhere else in the Villages even if it is 10 miles away on a cul-de-sac they visited once on the day they wandered with their clipboard.

When I moved my final furnishings from up north to here the movers set a yard ornament in my front yard among some boulders. About a month later I noticed it and went to pull it out to put it in the back yard. I was stopped by my neighbors who liked looking at it every morning when they got their paper. So I left it there. Six months later I got a call from community watch saying I needed to move it, as it was handed in on a complaint along with many others in the neighborhood. Now the ornament sits in my backyard, where I can see it from the pool. Didn’t cost me a thing, but my neighbors were very disappointed.

If the complaints were limited to those in the same Village I would find the rules would make much more sense.

Aw yes. I think. I was told. I heard.

Original intent is not known by any of us. What is known is that anyone can report a violation anywhere.

[Marathon Man]

I assume you mean "lawn" ornaments. To my understanding, lawn ornaments under the eaves of homes are allowed to be displayed. Lawn ornaments in any other location on the property is not allowed.

A phone call? How does that count as Community Standards checking out complaints?

About a month ago I asked that very question, and was told by Community Standards that the lawn 'under the eves' is controlled by deed restrictions. On your porch is not controlled. So you have to change your lawn ornaments to porch ornaments to come into compliance.

[Gpsma]

I agree with Gracie. If everyone was following the rules then there should be no issue. If people are not following the rules they agreed to when they bought the property then it's time time to look in the mirror and stop blaming other people for your own issues. Don't agree to the rules and then get mad at someone else because you aren't doing what you're supposed to do. To look for, make comments about, and try to attack the other person is extremely childish/toddler behavior.

And when u signed up to get a drivers license you agreed to abide by the law. Bet u speed on morse all the time

[Marathon Man]

And when u signed up to get a drivers license you agreed to abide by the law. Bet u speed on morse all the time

But, if you get a ticket, you blame your self, not the troll (I mean police).

[coffeebean]

About a month ago I asked that very question, and was told by Community Standards that the lawn 'under the eves' is controlled by deed restrictions. On your porch is not controlled. So you have to change your lawn ornaments to porch ornaments to come into compliance.

After reading what you have written, am I to understand that allowing lawn ornaments under the eaves is actually a myth? Some deed restrictions do allow lawn ornaments under the eaves and some do not?

I'll never understand why the deed restrictions are not the same throughout the entire community (all of The Villages). Who actually makes up these deed restrictions?

[Villageswimmer]

Y’all are making such a mountain of a molehill. If you put something out and it’s reported and in violation, a very polite CS person will tell you about in a very nice way. At that point, you comply. No penalty. No big deal.

Some posters seem to think they’ll be shot at sunrise or publicly stoned. Lighten up. Life is too short. Namaste.

[New Englander]

After reading what you have written, am I to understand that allowing lawn ornaments under the eaves is actually a myth? Some deed restrictions do allow lawn ornaments under the eaves and some do not?

I'll never understand why the deed restrictions are not the same throughout the entire community (all of The Villages). Who actually makes up these deed restrictions?

The deed restrictors of course. :icon_wink:

[Marathon Man]

After reading what you have written, am I to understand that allowing lawn ornaments under the eaves is actually a myth? Some deed restrictions do allow lawn ornaments under the eaves and some do not?

I'll never understand why the deed restrictions are not the same throughout the entire community (all of The Villages). Who actually makes up these deed restrictions?

I only know that south of 466 'under the eves' is a myth. What I don't know is why the myth exists. Maybe an extension of the looser restrictions above 466 (just a guess).

Here is why the restrictions vary among the districts. Once the restrictions are created for district, they are not changed. As each district is built, its restrictions are created and can be different than the previously built districts. Those that follow can be different still. The older districts continue to live under restrictions created for them.

Hope that helps.

[coffeebean]

The deed restrictors of course. :icon_wink:

Of course......that makes sense.

[coffeebean]

I only know that south of 466 'under the eves' is a myth. What I don't know is why the myth exists. Maybe an extension of the looser restrictions above 466 (just a guess).

Here is why the restrictions vary among the districts. Once the restrictions are created for district, they are not changed. As each district is built, its restrictions are created and can be different than the previously built districts. Those that follow can be different still. The older districts continue to live under restrictions created for them.

Hope that helps.
Thank you for your succinct reply.

[Chellybean]

I believe it is actually quite the opposite. From a selective enforcement legal point of view, we are better off with a complaint driven system as long as all complaints are investigated and uniformly acted on. With the current system, Community Standards isn't responsible for monitoring. If they were responsible for monitoring, missed infractions could be the basis for selective enforcement legal actions.

I disagree with that but i can understand your point. But by a complaint driven the complaint is enforced but the neighbor next door can be also guilty of the exact same thing. Now we have selective enforcement.
I guess it is a loss loss for anyone that gets tattle tailed on.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I disagree with that but i can understand your point. But by a complaint driven the complaint is enforced but the neighbor next door can be also guilty of the exact same thing. Now we have selective enforcement.
I guess it is a loss loss for anyone that gets tattle tailed on.

Exactly. It is precisely selective enforcement, at the present time. The rules are ONLY enforced if someone complains. If no one complains, then the homeowner can do pretty much whatever they like.

[biker1]

I believe the real issue is someone making a legal claim of selective enforcement, which may mean they don't have to conform to the deed restrictions because of a lack of enforcement on similar violations. Selective enforcement has a different meaning than what you are referring to. I believe the current complaint driven system precludes this from happening (a legal claim of selective enforcement). I have seen claims of selective enforcement in a previous community and you really want to avoid this as it potentially costs money to defend. I believe The Villages made a very smart move by implementing a complaint driven system as long as all complaints are investigated and enforced uniformly so that a claim of selective enforcement cannot be made.

I disagree with that but i can understand your point. But by a complaint driven the complaint is enforced but the neighbor next door can be also guilty of the exact same thing. Now we have selective enforcement.
I guess it is a loss loss for anyone that gets tattle tailed on.

[Chellybean]

I believe the real issue is someone making a legal claim of selective enforcement, which may mean they don't have to conform to the deed restrictions because of a lack of enforcement on similar violations. Selective enforcement has a different meaning than what you are referring to. I believe the current complaint driven system precludes this from happening (a legal claim of selective enforcement). I have seen claims of selective enforcement in a previous community and you really want to avoid this as it potentially costs money to defend. I believe The Villages made a very smart move by implementing a complaint driven system as long as all complaints are investigated and enforced uniformly so that a claim of selective enforcement cannot be made.

you hit the Nail right on the head! earlier in the post is what i was talking about who has the deeper financial pockets.

[Chellybean]

Exactly. It is precisely selective enforcement, at the present time. The rules are ONLY enforced if someone complains. If no one complains, then the homeowner can do pretty much whatever they like.

Bingo you are correct, but than it puts neighborhood trolls and tattle tails in full gear!

[biker1]

I'm not sure the depth of the pockets has much to do with it. If someone can show that Community Standards was selectively enforcing the deed restrictions then I doubt it would be difficult, or expensive, to get a ruling that their infraction cannot be enforced. In that case, all bets are off. I know people who have gone to court over deed restrictions in another community. I believe that is why they are not in the monitoring business and have limited their responsibility to enforcement of what is reported. I have never heard of anyone legally challenging selective enforcement here, presumably because there aren't any cases of it.

you hit the Nail right on the head! earlier in the post is what i was talking about who has the deeper financial pockets.

[Chellybean]

I'm not sure the depth of the pockets has much to do with it. If someone can show that Community Standards was selectively enforcing the deed restrictions then I doubt it would be difficult, or expensive, to get a ruling that their infraction cannot be enforced. In that case, all bets are off. I believe that is why they are not in the monitoring business and have limited their responsibility to enforcement of what is reported.

i get what you are saying but i don't think everything aligns that way if you know what i mean. A perfect example is the white crosses.
It is a religious belief to one person and a ornament to another.
Everything in the law is gray these days. Nothing is black and white anymore.
Our debate could be a health one but at the end of the day it is still all gray if your know what i am saying.

[biker1]

I don't believe there is anything gray about a white cross being a yard ornament and if someone was to pursue it legally I doubt they would prevail. I suspect they would have a difficult time finding legal council to take such a case. The deed restrictions are quite specific and probably written by lawyers. I guess they could be called a seasonal display but you can only keep those up for 30 days. At the end of the day, if you get cited you can either take down the white cross or be fined - that is pretty much black and white.

i get what you are saying but i don't think everything aligns that way if you know what i mean. A perfect example is the white crosses.
It is a religious belief to one person and a ornament to another.
Everything in the law is gray these days. Nothing is black and white anymore.
Our debate could be a health one but at the end of the day it is still all gray if your know what i am saying.

[Chellybean]

I don't believe there is anything gray about a white cross being a yard ornament and if someone was to pursue it legally I doubt they would prevail. I suspect they would have a difficult time finding legal council to take such a case. The deed restrictions are quite specific and probably written by lawyers. I guess they could be called a seasonal display but you can only keep those up for 30 days. At the end of the day, if you get cited you can either take down the white cross or be fined - that is pretty much black and white.

again i don't agree but i do concede it would be a difficult battle and quite costly. Freedom of speech and religious beliefs are a very sharp razor, again goes to deep pockets!

[OlifOlif]

Could you send more information?

[roob1]

When you get pulled over for speeding and the officer is writing you up, there are very likely other vehicles going by that are speeding. The officer is too busy to clock them.

Would you cry "selective enforcement" to the judge? If so, good luck.

Yours is just another example of blame-shifting.





I disagree with that but i can understand your point. But by a complaint driven the complaint is enforced but the neighbor next door can be also guilty of the exact same thing. Now we have selective enforcement.
I guess it is a loss loss for anyone that gets tattle tailed on.

[graciegirl]

again i don't agree but i do concede it would be a difficult battle and quite costly. Freedom of speech and religious beliefs are a very sharp razor, again goes to deep pockets!

A huge amount of people reading this Forum treasure the symbol of the cross, including me. This isn't an attack on the cross or on religious freedom. This is about deed restrictions. The little wooden crosses are allowed under the eaves of any home in The Villages. So are all other symbols of religious faith. That doesn't mean that the people who wrote the deed restrictions don't also treasure the symbol(s).

It made me so happy to gift my friend with a lovely Star of David necklace and she wore it until she died. I wear a cross myself. You will see many people with the Mezuzah on their front door showing their home was blessed. Crosses are allowed there too if someone wished to put one there.

Deed restrictions and the anonymous reporting of deed restrictions do not mean people are against religion. I so wish you understood that.

[GOLFER54]

Sadly there are people here and elsewhere that are so vindictive and spiteful that they find comfort in upsetting others.

[RRman77 retired]

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

you know the rules, live with them...

[graciegirl]

Sadly there are people here and elsewhere that are so vindictive and spiteful that they find comfort in upsetting others.

That is true.

However, that is not the reason for deed restrictions or the enforcement of them, but does relate to keeping people who report restrictions anonymous.

[Mfarmeno]

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle
There is also a couple on a golf cart with a clip board driving through the area. Saw a Volkswagen convertible bug staking out the villas in Kingfisher.

[prendymom]

A neighbor of mine mentioned to me last week that he saw someone take a picture of our front lawn. We have 2 crosses under our front eaves, which is where they are to be. So what's the problem. Some people need to get a life!

[Chellybean]

When you get pulled over for speeding and the officer is writing you up, there are very likely other vehicles going by that are speeding. The officer is too busy to clock them.

Would you cry "selective enforcement" to the judge? If so, good luck.

Yours is just another example of blame-shifting.

OMG apples and oranges

[Marathon Man]

A neighbor of mine mentioned to me last week that he saw someone take a picture of our front lawn. We have 2 crosses under our front eaves, which is where they are to be. So what's the problem. Some people need to get a life!

Under the eves is still controlled by the deed restrictions. Only on your porch are you allowed ornaments. That came from Community Standards directly to my ears about a month ago.

Another common story is that the deed restrictions do not apply to the back yard. They do.

[Chellybean]

Under the eves is still controlled by the deed restrictions. Only on your porch are you allowed ornaments. That came from Community Standards directly to my ears about a month ago.

Another common story is that the deed restrictions do not apply to the back yard. They do.

That is also a gray area it is to be under the foot print of the home.
The eves are under the foot print of the home.
Only one persons (attorney) interpretation of the law

[Two Bills]

I cannot understand why people cannot put the crosses in their back yards, dozens of them if they so wish, or is the front yard placing of the things just to show how more 'Christian' they are to neighbors who pass by?
My personal belief is there is nothing after death but compost, but I don't stick a compost bin in the front garden to advertise the fact!

[MrsPhil]

Not true ("if there is no violation, there is no letter or fine"). I have friends who were turned in for a completely fabricated violation. Rather than have someone physically check it out or call and ask about it, they were immediately sent a "cease and desist" letter! When they tried to talk to someone about it, they were told it would be a week or more before they could even tell an appropriate person that what they were accused of was completely imaginary! In other words, they were essentially told "Quit doing what someone said you are doing and we'll listen to your side of the story later." It's a crazy system and not always upfront.

[rlcooper70]

Are we discussing a witch hunt? Burning at the cross? Or are we going to bury her like the Pilgrims did - and put rocks on her chest until she admits to being a witch?

What's wrong with this discussion?

Hmmm .... how about the standards committee is allowed to just simply dissipate the conversation?

My goodness people.... should we pause and think?

[edlynette@cs.com]

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

Too many people here have too much time on their hands and enjoy irritating others.

Can anyone say shutting down the Life Learning Center??

they don't want to work with others to resolve issues and concerns they just want to cause trouble

[merrymini]

If you are in compliance, you have nothing to worry about

[theruizs]

When you get pulled over for speeding and the officer is writing you up, there are very likely other vehicles going by that are speeding. The officer is too busy to clock them.

Would you cry "selective enforcement" to the judge? If so, good luck.

Yours is just another example of blame-shifting.

Not exactly the same thing but a good point. The reason the enforcement system is complaint driven is to avoid selective enforcement. I know it seems counterintuitive but if they diligently check out every complaint and enforce and violations found, they are not guilty of selective enforcement. The treatment of the complaints is the determining factor. I have no doubt they had very good lawyers advising them on this.

[genobambino]

I agree with Graciegirl, sounds like BS

[PennBF]

We all owe her a vote of thanks for working to maintain the standards of the Villages and being consistent in her observations. Regarding the "Cross's". That is just another form of advertising..e.g. I am a Christian. In reality I am a Christian but I am also against trying to pull people apart but rather we are one community. It's called "UNITY".:ohdear:

[Byte1]

I find those that complain about what others are doing when it has no effect on them or anyone else around them, to be pathetic. Rules are NOT laws and are flexible. There should always be exceptions to rules in a FREE country. There is absolutely NO way you can travel about the Villages without seeing many deed restriction violations. I have several neighbors that have ugly properties, in MY opinion but I appreciate their difference instead of taking exception to them. If one wishes a TOTALLY uniform community, then they should live on a military base. I wonder just how truthful some of you are being with us or to yourselves regarding these so-called rules. I am sure that NO one on here has violated the speed laws on the highway by speeding up to ten mph over the speed limit to pass someone going the speed limit. Of course, I am sure there will be those that will deny this and have NEVER, EVER violated a traffic LAW. I am within 30 years or less of leaving this great world and think it is silly for someone to worry about what someone else's property looks like. Those that do not like something that someone else is doing, seem to feel that it is their obligation to report any infraction of rules and if not a rule to make sure to out that person for being different. You do not have to be a Christian to be Christian-like. I bet there are some on here that are offended when someone eats their fries with their fingers instead of a fork. I bet there are some women that do not like the length of another's skirt or the shade of ones lipstick or fingernail polish.
Rules seem to be rules until you do not agree with them. Funny how some on here insist that if you allow anyone to get away with the simplest violation, then it will encourage millions of other violations. Has anyone ever thought about how we could do away with judges for administering penalties for lawlessness, if we just went strictly by legal statute? If the penalty for shoplifting is 180 days in jail then EVERY child the steals a candybar would get six months in jail, etc. Are we accomplices if we do not report our neighbor's violations? Will we have chaos if we allow our neighbor to have a gnome in their flower garden? Sorry, but it is hard for me to imagine some folks worrying about a lawn ornament violation and then admit that they totally accept the influx of illegal aliens crossing our borders, and feel sorry for them to boot.
Reading some of these comments, one must wonder how a senior with shaking hands is perceived when they might drop their food trying to get it in their mouths, or when they eat without closing their mouths. I bet some are very disturbed when they see someone exiting the ladies room with their dress tucked into the rear of their panties.
I pity the trouble makers, not encourage them. Yes, we have rules for a reason. But, there are many rules that I do not always agree with or can be flexible with when dealing with my neighbors. What sold me on The Villages was not the beauty of the homes, but the beauty of the people I first met here. It has been a while since I have run into the outwardly friendly folks that I met all over this place when I first moved here. Maybe they do not frequent this community blog?

[Rich42]

Restrictions exist for a reason. To keep all the crap out of yards! Go up to the north side of the villages and look at some of the yards and ask yourself if you really want your neighbors yards to look like this. If she has reported legitimate violations then more power to her. Peoples yards can really become extremely unsightly if not policed.

[BoatRatKat]

This would have made for a great episode on Seinfeld for Jerry's parents and the Costanzas.

[njbchbum]

Byte1 -
"Rules are NOT laws and are flexible." - Since when and by whose authority?
"Rules seem to be rules until you do not agree with them." - Or someone claims them to be 'flexible'?
"Yes, we have rules for a reason. But, there are many rules that I do not always agree with or can be flexible with when dealing with my neighbors. " - Because you can be flexible with them means that the Authority that established the rules must be flexible with the rules they set? Why would the Authority not declare up front that their rules are flexible or that their rules are only guidelines?

And in this case - no one is dealing with a rule or a guideline! The issue is one of deed restrictions - isn't a deed a legal document?
"Deed restrictions are private agreements that restrict the use of the real estate in some way, and are listed in the deed. The seller may add a restriction to the title of the property. Often, developers restrict the parcels of property in a development to maintain a certain amount of uniformity. A deed restriction is a clause in a deed that limits the use of land. However, restrictions that are against public policy are unenforceable, such as those that prohibit people of certain ethnic groups from using a property. Deed restrictions placed within a deed control the use of the property. The restrictions travel with the deed, and cannot generally be removed by new owners."
Deed Restrictions Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc. (https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/deed-restrictions/)

Not dealing with a rule!

[maribob01]

Too bad, if this is true, it defies the "America's friendliest hometown" slogan. I should think the person who complained about others' yards would try to keep their own side of the street clean...their own yard, their own shrubs, their own home--and perhaps devote their efforts to improving the gardening in their own environs and neighborhood. That would present so much for them to do each day, that they wouldn't have time to complain about others! What a shame!

[Byte1]

Restrictions exist for a reason. To keep all the crap out of yards! Go up to the north side of the villages and look at some of the yards and ask yourself if you really want your neighbors yards to look like this. If she has reported legitimate violations then more power to her. Peoples yards can really become extremely unsightly if not policed.

I did as you suggested and went up to the "north side of the villages." They must have changed their ways since you were there, or maybe some are just more easily offended by what others do with their OWN property. I assume that "extremely unsightly" is in the eyes of the beholder. Perhaps, I just have enough flaws of my own, that I don't notice others blemishes. Like I said above, those "friendly" folks of the Villages, must not frequent this forum. Or maybe I just have too many of my own faults that I do not notice those minute faults of others. Guess I am not the one to be the first to cast the first stone. Or maybe I just do not concern myself with my neighbors' business when they are not harming others. I am sure that some may find these minor infractions to be a major concern and worthy of the maximum enforcement, but I find it refreshing when I can see interesting imagination of someone's artistic endeavors. I apologize (actually I don't) for not conforming to the PC climate of this discussion. Just stating my opinion.
I pity those that ride around reporting infractions of the rules. I sincerely hope that something good happens in their lives to make them less miserable.

[retiredguy123]

As far as I know, I am in full compliance with all deed restrictions. If I am not, I want to know about it and I will fix it. In fact, if a neighbor doesn't like something I am doing, I will probably fix it anyway, even if it is in compliance. I may need a ride someday.

[Garywt]

I always enjoy these conversations.

Many say everyone signed to agree to the restrictions but that is not true. After give our non refundable deposit they were just handed to us and that was that.

The deed restrictions are very vague and left to interpretation.

Every district has different restrictions, one of ours is no satellite dishes but many have them.

Mine does say no “lawn” ornaments. My front yard is 100% “yard” but only 50% “lawn” or grass which is another word for lawn. This tells me I have no restrictions among the bushes and mulch.

I agree that those turning people in have an axe to grind against someone and will keep doing it until everyone is handled.

It would be funny to flock them with pink flamingos but I feel it could be dangerous if this person was found out.

[retiredguy123]

I always enjoy these conversations.

Many say everyone signed to agree to the restrictions but that is not true. After give our non refundable deposit they were just handed to us and that was that.

The deed restrictions are very vague and left to interpretation.

Every district has different restrictions, one of ours is no satellite dishes but many have them.

Mine does say no “lawn” ornaments. My front yard is 100% “yard” but only 50% “lawn” or grass which is another word for lawn. This tells me I have no restrictions among the bushes and mulch.

I agree that those turning people in have an axe to grind against someone and will keep doing it until everyone is handled.

It would be funny to flock them with pink flamingos but I feel it could be dangerous if this person was found out.
If you have a deed restriction that says no satellite dishes, then you can pretty much ignore it. There is a Federal law that prohibits that type of deed restriction.

[Byte1]

As far as I know, I am in full compliance with all deed restrictions. If I am not, I want to know about it and I will fix it. In fact, if a neighbor doesn't like something I am doing, I will probably fix it anyway, even if it is in compliance. I may need a ride someday.

That's nice of you. I admit that I am not always on the straight and narrow, therefore I do not require others to be perfect in order to make my day. I do not go out of my way to make others uncomfortable, but I am not PC either...just to make others happy. If you cannot be flexible on ridiculous little superficial rules, then it seems disingenuous to be flexible on statutory laws, such as immigration violations. Just my opinion.

Like I said, I pity those that require ALL their happiness dependent on others conforming to their standards. Some folks believe in extremes, not understanding the term "moderation." Americans are supposed to be TOLERANT, but it is obvious by some comments that tolerant is not in their accepted terms. I presume that some on here would suggest that I am accessory to these rule violations if I do not rat on my neighbors' breaking of the rules.

At any rate, my intent was not to encourage breaking of the rules but to be tolerant when dealing with your neighbors. There's an old saying that goes something like "what goes around, comes around." It seems to me that some are demanding that others be INTOLERANT when they do not condone someone else's actions. Where have I heard that before?

[biker1]

Many say everyone signed to agree to the restrictions but that is not true. After give our non refundable deposit they were just handed to us and that was that.

>>Actually you did agree to the deed restrictions when you bought your house. The deed restrictions flow with the house. This is a settled legal issue.

The deed restrictions are very vague and left to interpretation.

>>Actually they are very specific and I don't see where any interpretation is required. Can you cite an example?

Every district has different restrictions, one of ours is no satellite dishes but many have them.

>>Satellite dishes are in the deed restrictions but this is one area where Federal Law overrules. You can put up a satellite dish. The deed restrictions for most of the "southern" Villages are the same. When it doubt, refer to districtgov.org.

Mine does say no “lawn” ornaments. My front yard is 100% “yard” but only 50% “lawn” or grass which is another word for lawn. This tells me I have no restrictions among the bushes and mulch.

>>You can try to make that case but if you are cited for a violation and fail to comply you will be fined. You can certainly try to fight it in court but you will lose. I have seen this before.

I agree that those turning people in have an axe to grind against someone and will keep doing it until everyone is handled.

>>Someone may have an ax to grind but if you are compliant there is nothing to file a complaint against and if a complaint is filed where no infraction exists it will be for naught.

It would be funny to flock them with pink flamingos but I feel it could be dangerous if this person was found out.

>>I prefer to spend my time playing golf.

[Villageswimmer]

Many say everyone signed to agree to the restrictions but that is not true. After give our non refundable deposit they were just handed to us and that was that.

>>Actually you did agree to the deed restrictions when you bought your house. The deed restrictions flow with the house. This is a settled legal issue.

The deed restrictions are very vague and left to interpretation.

>>Actually they are very specific and I don't see where any interpretation is required. Can you cite an example?

Every district has different restrictions, one of ours is no satellite dishes but many have them.

>>Satellite dishes are in the deed restrictions but this is one area where Federal Law overrules. You can put up a satellite dish. The deed restrictions for most of the "southern" Villages are the same. When it doubt, refer to districtgov.org.

Mine does say no “lawn” ornaments. My front yard is 100% “yard” but only 50% “lawn” or grass which is another word for lawn. This tells me I have no restrictions among the bushes and mulch.

>>You can try to make that case but if you are cited for a violation and fail to comply you will be fined. You can certainly try to fight it in court but you will lose. I have seen this before.

I agree that those turning people in have an axe to grind against someone and will keep doing it until everyone is handled.

>>Someone may have an ax to grind but if you are compliant there is nothing to file a complaint against and if a complaint is filed where no infraction exists it will be for naught.

It would be funny to flock them with pink flamingos but I feel it could be dangerous if this person was found out.

>>I prefer to spend my time playing golf.


Bravo!

[quietpine]

Fifty violators! Maybe your Village needs to be cleaned up.

[Topspinmo]

That is odd. I wonder why she/he stopped at 50?

Good that Community Standards was just calling the people to see if there were actually any problems with the law ornaments. That saves a lot of gas and time.

They should be anonymous though just in case there is something do some of these complaints. Some people can be quite vindictive.

Got her quota, too bad LEOs don’t have quota on speeders, illegal roundabout maneuvers, running stops signs, and not using blinker lights.

[Topspinmo]

I can find 10 violations down any street, in CYV’s can find multiple violations especially the snow bird residents, weeds 3 foot tall, dirty moldy perimeter walls, weeds in driveway section lines. Bush’s and vines out of control encroach neighbors driveways or easements. Vines/ bushes up against neighbors house ect.....

Looks like the lady is systematically going to every village in her district. Probably will expand when she runs out of villages in her district. Creepy habits are nearly impossible to break without therapy :1rotfl:

[Marathon Man]

Too bad, if this is true, it defies the "America's friendliest hometown" slogan. I should think the person who complained about others' yards would try to keep their own side of the street clean...their own yard, their own shrubs, their own home--and perhaps devote their efforts to improving the gardening in their own environs and neighborhood. That would present so much for them to do each day, that they wouldn't have time to complain about others! What a shame!

Well, one could certainly say that those who refuse to follow the deed restrictions are the unfriendly ones. They are forcing their wants on others rather than keeping their properties in compliance, as their neighbors do.

[drhntr8]

Why is it so hard for a lot of people to realize that the rules we agreed to are for everybody..nobody is exempt.

[Byte1]

Why is it so hard for a lot of people to realize that the rules we agreed to are for everybody..nobody is exempt.

Not really. Not all of The Villages has the same rules. I consider the deed restrictions to be a rule of thumb, to keep the community looking nice, NOT a cookie cutter copy of the next. I am glad that I live North of Rt466 and do not have the same egg heads making the loud noises.. I doubt I can find a home in all of the Villages that is in total compliance, and I don't care. It all looks fine to me and I don't let small things bug me. If you wish to spend up all your bonus years complaining about what everyone else is doing that makes them happy, then you do not deserve those extra years. Go back to work where you can feel good about yourself when you are bossing the little guys around. Personally, I plan to be a good neighbor and do as much for my neighbors that I can before cashing in. Sorry, but I have no respect for those that complain about other folks personal property. I have yet to see any homes here with rusted out trucks or cars up on blocks in their yards. I have looked all over the Villages and have not found one home that I would complain about. I may not choose the same colors, plants, yard ornaments or cars, but I enjoy interesting quirks and imaginative personalization.
It will take a lot before I will ever make a complaint, and then I will sign my name to it. It would take something like a home looking like Bates Motel before I think it might concern me. And before anyone insinuates that my home is probably a mess, I have had plenty of folks stop by and tell me how nice my landscaping looks to them.
But, even though I might not agree with you, I still wish you a great week and a happy stay in The Villages. Hope some of the "Friendliest" rubs off on you all. :)

[Bogie Shooter]

If there were that many violations in one set, I would assume it was someone from Community standards driving around. I have seen them out and about with clipboards and writing things down. Just saying.

Could it be they are following up on reported suspected violations?
Is this the kind of awareness you want for your business by posting on this topic?

[ColdNoMore]

I'm currently searching the classifieds, to purchase a dark red golf cart...with a white swim noodle.




:D

[Villageswimmer]

I'm currently searching the classifieds, to purchase a dark red golf cart...with a white swim noodle.




:D

You can just add the swim noodle. Come to think of it, I’ve never seen a white one. :ohdear::ohdear:

[SouthJerseyGirl]

Really? I have a problem with busybodies sticking their noses into other people’s business when it has zeeo effect on the quality of their life.

[diva1]

If this is true, it should show the powers-that-be how faulty this system of enforcement actually is!

[perrjojo]

If this is true, it should show the powers-that-be how faulty this system of enforcement actually is!
I’m not certain how long this has been the system but dorm19 years that I know of...seems to be working to me.

[600th Photo Sq]

This thread is now gotten to the boring stage.

Bottom line like anything else look at the rules, follow them.

In the Military, for example, all branches have " Regulations " so ............ that in itself doesn't need any explanation, the same thing with deed restrictions.

If individuals have a problem with following the rules then it all boils down to two choices, Abide by them or Leave.

Really simple.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Not really. Not all of The Villages has the same rules. I consider the deed restrictions to be a rule of thumb, to keep the community looking nice, NOT a cookie cutter copy of the next. I am glad that I live North of Rt466 and do not have the same egg heads making the loud noises.. I doubt I can find a home in all of the Villages that is in total compliance, and I don't care. It all looks fine to me and I don't let small things bug me. If you wish to spend up all your bonus years complaining about what everyone else is doing that makes them happy, then you do not deserve those extra years. Go back to work where you can feel good about yourself when you are bossing the little guys around. Personally, I plan to be a good neighbor and do as much for my neighbors that I can before cashing in. Sorry, but I have no respect for those that complain about other folks personal property. I have yet to see any homes here with rusted out trucks or cars up on blocks in their yards. I have looked all over the Villages and have not found one home that I would complain about. I may not choose the same colors, plants, yard ornaments or cars, but I enjoy interesting quirks and imaginative personalization.
It will take a lot before I will ever make a complaint, and then I will sign my name to it. It would take something like a home looking like Bates Motel before I think it might concern me. And before anyone insinuates that my home is probably a mess, I have had plenty of folks stop by and tell me how nice my landscaping looks to them.
But, even though I might not agree with you, I still wish you a great week and a happy stay in The Villages. Hope some of the "Friendliest" rubs off on you all. :)

:bigbow: Another one I would've given a "rep" to but can't because the feature doesn't exist. And so I have to waste a post saying "thanks!" and "I agree."

[Marathon Man]

If this is true, it should show the powers-that-be how faulty this system of enforcement actually is!

OK. Others have a problem with those who can not follow the rules that we all agreed to when we moved here.

[Byte1]

This thread is now gotten to the boring stage.

Bottom line like anything else look at the rules, follow them.

In the Military, for example, all branches have " Regulations " so ............ that in itself doesn't need any explanation, the same thing with deed restrictions.

If individuals have a problem with following the rules then it all boils down to two choices, Abide by them or Leave.

Really simple.


It's NOT the military. But, 'nuff said.

[biker1]

I really don't see the continued need to belabor this or even to express what you consider the deed restrictions to be. You can look up your exact deed restrictions online at districtgov.org and you will find that they are mostly identical except for some of the very northern villages. You can choose to be compliant or not. If you are non-compliant and you are reported your choice is to either become compliant or be fined. There is nothing emotional about this. You have legally agreed to the deed restrictions. You are an adult and can act as you please but make no mistake about the fact that there are consequences to your actions.

Not really. Not all of The Villages has the same rules. I consider the deed restrictions to be a rule of thumb, to keep the community looking nice, NOT a cookie cutter copy of the next.

[Velvet]

I'm currently searching the classifieds, to purchase a dark red golf cart...with a white swim noodle.




:D

That has got to be one of the funniest comments.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I really don't see the continued need to belabor this or even to express what you consider the deed restrictions to be. You can look up your exact deed restrictions online at districtgov.org and you will find that they are mostly identical except for some of the very northern villages. You can choose to be compliant or not. If you are non-compliant and you are reported your choice is to either become compliant or be fined. There is nothing emotional about this. You have legally agreed to the deed restrictions. You are an adult and can act as you please but make no mistake about the fact that there are consequences to your actions.

You can also be 100% compliant and STILL have someone with a grudge against you submitting complaints about your property. The CS will investigate every single complaint against your property. There's nothing you or they can do about it. They must investigate every single one, BECAUSE they are allowed to be provided anonymously.

If people had to tell CS who they are, and verify that they are, in fact a resident of the Villages, then there might be a significant reduction in the number of bogus complaints against homeowners who are 100% compliant.

I have no problem with being compliant, if I chose to live in the more restricted areas of TV I would do my part in conforming as required. But when people start calling CS to rat me out for something that isn't even happening, I want CS to make that kind of thing stop. They can't make it stop if they don't know who it is.

Put it this way: anyone, anywhere in the country, or even in the world, can submit complaints against YOUR property. Community Standards will check out every single complaint. Someone living in Ohio could submit one complaint every week against every single home in an entire village neighborhood, for two years, and CS would have to check it out.

Seems a huge waste of labor to me, when it would be much easier to plug the complaint into a database, and if it red-flags as a nuisance complainer, you send a cease and desist, and put a block on that person's ability to submit complaints.

[Bucco]

I really don't see the continued need to belabor this or even to express what you consider the deed restrictions to be. You can look up your exact deed restrictions online at districtgov.org and you will find that they are mostly identical except for some of the very northern villages. You can choose to be compliant or not. If you are non-compliant and you are reported your choice is to either become compliant or be fined. There is nothing emotional about this. You have legally agreed to the deed restrictions. You are an adult and can act as you please but make no mistake about the fact that there are consequences to your actions.

This and post 167 before it are spot on.

It has been awhile, but my sales guy, AND the closing agent spoke to all the rules before we bought and signed.

If they didn't inform you, complain to The Villages, but I am pretty darn sure all of you signed an understanding, and had the chance to ask questions.

[biker1]

As I said, there is no point in belaboring this. You agreed to the deed restrictions, they are not changing, the anonymous reporting system is there for very good reasons, how many complaints are filed and for what reason is not your problem, and you can choose or not to choose to be compliant. As I previously posted, please find someone else to argue with.

You can also be 100% compliant and STILL have someone with a grudge against you submitting complaints about your property. The CS will investigate every single complaint against your property. There's nothing you or they can do about it. They must investigate every single one, BECAUSE they are allowed to be provided anonymously.

If people had to tell CS who they are, and verify that they are, in fact a resident of the Villages, then there might be a significant reduction in the number of bogus complaints against homeowners who are 100% compliant.

I have no problem with being compliant, if I chose to live in the more restricted areas of TV I would do my part in conforming as required. But when people start calling CS to rat me out for something that isn't even happening, I want CS to make that kind of thing stop. They can't make it stop if they don't know who it is.

Put it this way: anyone, anywhere in the country, or even in the world, can submit complaints against YOUR property. Community Standards will check out every single complaint. Someone living in Ohio could submit one complaint every week against every single home in an entire village neighborhood, for two years, and CS would have to check it out.

Seems a huge waste of labor to me, when it would be much easier to plug the complaint into a database, and if it red-flags as a nuisance complainer, you send a cease and desist, and put a block on that person's ability to submit complaints.

[Cathrine1]

I recently moved here and was told multiple times to read my deed restrictions and I did. I left my beloved church bell in Ohio and I abide by the rules. I don’t bother my neighbors and see many violations where I live. Just two hours ago I saw an actual shed up in a backyard along with more and more and more lawn ornaments in same yard. This person has 2 white crosses as well as all the other Stuff piling up in the yard. I guessI just don’t get why ppl want to violate beyond and keep doing it. I’m a Christian, I love god, I attend church faithfully every week and I also go to work and Dave lives for a living. Why drag god and white crosses into this. God is in our hearts and when he is, he also leads us on how we behave. Love thy neighbor but no need to draw unneeded attention by violations that only lead to conflict. I choose not to be in conflict with anyone!!! I’m sure this house will be reported only because they are pushing and pushing the limits way beyond and their beautiful home is becoming and eyesore. I put my stuff in my backyard for me and my family to enjoy.... no violations and no drama. Life is just too short for all of this. Our church always welcomes new members and we go there for worship and do great things for all those less fortunate than all of us living the dream in the villages! Have a blessed day! 🙏

[Velvet]

Sounds like they could be hoarders.

[Topspinmo]

I'm currently searching the classifieds, to purchase a dark red golf cart...with a white swim noodle.




:D


I got one i’ll Sell you but don’t have no white noodles

[Bogie Shooter]

As I said, there is no point is belaboring this. You agreed to the deed restrictions, they are not changing, the anonymous reporting system is there for very good reasons, how many complaints are filed and for what reason is not your problem, and you can choose or not to choose to be compliant. As I previously posted, please find someone else to argue with.

:bigbow:

[Bogie Shooter]

I recently moved here and was told multiple times to read my deed restrictions and I did. I left my beloved church bell in Ohio and I abide by the rules. I don’t bother my neighbors and see many violations where I live. Just two hours ago I saw an actual shed up in a backyard along with more and more and more lawn ornaments in same yard. This person has 2 white crosses as well as all the other Stuff piling up in the yard. I guessI just don’t get why ppl want to violate beyond and keep doing it. I’m a Christian, I love god, I attend church faithfully every week and I also go to work and Dave lives for a living. Why drag god and white crosses into this. God is in our hearts and when he is, he also leads us on how we behave. Love thy neighbor but no need to draw unneeded attention by violations that only lead to conflict. I choose not to be in conflict with anyone!!! I’m sure this house will be reported only because they are pushing and pushing the limits way beyond and their beautiful home is becoming and eyesore. I put my stuff in my backyard for me and my family to enjoy.... no violations and no drama. Life is just too short for all of this. Our church always welcomes new members and we go there for worship and do great things for all those less fortunate than all of us living the dream in the villages! Have a blessed day! 🙏
What village?

[Incoblack1]

If someone observes a lawn ornament violation they not only have a right but an obligation to report it. Don't shoot the messenger - get the deed restriction changed if it bothers you!

[graciegirl]

If someone observes a lawn ornament violation they not only have a right but an obligation to report it. Don't shoot the messenger - get the deed restriction changed if it bothers you!

The chance of changing deed restrictions in a CDD is slim and none.

What Is a Deed Restricted Community? | Legal Beagle (https://legalbeagle.com/13711963-what-is-a-deed-restricted-community.html)

[Mini_T]

Yeah, probably. Or suffering from dementia. Although, if one wanted changes in the policy, one way to get attention could be to overwhelm the powers that be.

I would never have thought of that but you are absolutely right. Overwhelm them with a bunch of petty complaints that they have to follow up on.

At the very least they may consider changing the rules so that complaints will not be anonymous.

[Velvet]

This and post 167 before it are spot on.

It has been awhile, but my sales guy, AND the closing agent spoke to all the rules before we bought and signed.

If they didn't inform you, complain to The Villages, but I am pretty darn sure all of you signed an understanding, and had the chance to ask questions.

Nope. Deeds were not mentioned at all by agent, but I knew from my relatives who lived in TV.

[coffeebean]

Sounds like they could be hoarders.

My husband nor I have ever reported anyone for deed restriction violations. Having said that, I would report a property that looked as that one was described.