Soccer is BORING!!!!!

[dominick]

With all the media hype going on, I tuned in to a world cup soccer game. BORING!! is about all that I can say about it. True, I don’t know all the rules, but it looks pretty simple--- put the ball in the goal--- PLEASE!!! Do something other than just run up and down the field kicking the stupid ball the entire time. My kids games were better when they were in the first grade.
The players don’t seem particularly skilled or athletic—-who can’t run and kick a ball. It seems like any average person could become a high level soccer player, given sufficient time and training effort.
Every four years, “they” try to use the world cup as a platform to popularize the sorry game on a pro level in this country--- It’s been going on since the 1970s. It remains a kid’s game because its good exercise, easy to play, requires no skill, and anyone who wants to can play. MLS is a joke, as well it should be.
Say what you want about how it’s the world’s favorite sport, adored by millions, & blah blah blah, blah blah blah--- it’s a sissy, ugly, unskilled BORING , kiddies game and soooo fashionably international. They'll drag it out again in another four years.

[Bogie Shooter]

With all the media hype going on, I tuned in to a world cup soccer game. BORING!! is about all that I can say about it. True, I don’t know all the rules, but it looks pretty simple--- put the ball in the goal--- PLEASE!!! Do something other than just run up and down the field kicking the stupid ball the entire time. My kids games were better when they were in the first grade.
The players don’t seem particularly skilled or athletic—-who can’t run and kick a ball. It seems like any average person could become a high level soccer player, given sufficient time and training effort.
Every four years, “they” try to use the world cup as a platform to popularize the sorry game on a pro level in this country--- It’s been going on since the 1970s. It remains a kid’s game because its good exercise, easy to play, requires no skill, and anyone who wants to can play. MLS is a joke, as well it should be.
Say what you want about how it’s the world’s favorite sport, adored by millions, & blah blah blah, blah blah blah--- it’s a sissy, ugly, unskilled BORING , kiddies game and soooo fashionably international. They'll drag it out again in another four years.
Could you be more specific as to why you feel it is boring?:rant-rave:

[zcaveman]

So it is not just me!!! I have to agree. Unfortunately there is nothing else on that I want to watch so I try to sit through the game hoping to see some kind of game plan.

In ice hockey, the wingman knows there will be someone on the other side when he flips the puck. In soccer it looks like they just kick the ball and hope someone will be there.

There is no concentrated number of players near the goal when they finally get the ball down near the goal. You think they would have a couple of guys down there so when they kick the ball across the goal area someone would be around to knock it in.

And as much as they play you think they would be more accurate. Low shots as opposed to over the goal shots.

How many weeks is this going to run?

[collie1228]

I have made a fair attempt to get into soccer. I was in the UK earlier this year, and spent some time with new acquaintances at a really nice pub, trying to get into it, lubricated by some great UK cider. My son played it throughout junior high and high school, and I watched the majority of his home games (do they call them games?). I watched the first half of the USA-England match last week, and all I remember is the obnoxious sound of the horns in the stadium (bees in my TV?) and several hours of a lack of scoring. I have to say, the sport is boring to me, and there is no way I will ever be able to enjoy it. But I admit that baseball can be boring too, but I enjoy it. To each his own, but soccer will never be a major sport in the USA in my lifetime. Of that I'm certain . . . .

[Sally Jo]

A couple years ago we went to Boca Raton for a ladies NCAA tournament. A cousin played for one of the teams. Thank goodness the clock keeps running. I spent most of my time watching the clock, willing it to go faster. I would just as soon watch paint dry.

[BobKat1]

The say Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's just not in the eye of this beholder. I've tried but just can't get into it. A score now and then might help...

[Taltarzac]

The say Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's just not in the eye of this beholder. I've tried but just can't get into it. A score now and then might help...

Who says there is not a lot of scoring in soccer. :o 149 to nothing is the top score in soccer.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_Highest_scoring_soccer_match

I am though having trouble watching a whole match in the World Cup as so much of the game seems to be focused on keeping the other team from scoring. I do not have much knowledge of soccer so much of the "beautiful game" goes over my head.

Some of the parts of the games can be quite exciting though like the Championship game in the last World Cup. This was a penalty shootout.

[KayakerNC]

Wife and I are "Soccer Grands". :MOJE_whot:
Granddaughter plays in the 10 plus local league, and the games are always fun to watch.
Pro Soccer seems to be mostly about defense, so I would rather watch the kids play.

[BaylorBear]

The hubs watches the games and loves it. I, on the other hand, can generate absolutely NO enthusiasm for soccer. It bores me to tears!!:(

[Russ_Boston]

Please Please tell me that part about 'not being athletic' or 'the average person could become a high level player' or 'no game plan' or 'they just kick the ball and hope someone is there' isn't serious talk. Please tell me that you are just trying to push some buttons. Please, I beg of you!

Consider my buttons pushed - That is completely and utterly ignorant of what it takes to play any sport at a high level. Soccer may not be for everyone but please tell me you were joking.

[The Great Fumar]

EVERY AFTERNOON WHEN I WANT TO TAKE A NAP, I TURN ON SOCCER..

YAWNNNN fumar

[BobKat1]

EVERY AFTERNOON WHEN I WANT TO TAKE A NAP, I TURN ON SOCCER..

YAWNNNN fumar

Thanks for the tip I'll give it a try.

I like to turn on a Cubs or White Sox game for my naps.

[collie1228]

One of my co-workers is a serious World Cup fan. This afternoon he was talking about the great game/match (I don't know which is correct) he watched yesterday. A zero-zero (nil-nil) tie between Portugal and the Ivory Coast. Now, how do you spell 'EXCITEMENT!!!"

[Russ_Boston]

One of my co-workers is a serious World Cup fan. This afternoon he was talking about the great game/match (I don't know which is correct) he watched yesterday. A zero-zero (nil-nil) tie between Portugal and the Ivory Coast. Now, how do you spell 'EXCITEMENT!!!"



That's odd - a few weeks ago a co-worker was telling me about a baseball game over the weekend where one team had no runs, no hits and no walks. I think he not only called it excitement he called it PERFECT :)

[collie1228]

It was perfect on the scoreboard, but it was BORING.

[Russ_Boston]

It was perfect on the scoreboard, but it was BORING.


So a perfect game in baseball is boring - a scoreless tie in soccer is boring. I guess you only care about offense in sports?

Not me.

[BobKat1]

It's strictly a person preference thing. Some LOVE baseball, football etc. and some don't. Some don't like sports at all.

It's no secret that soccer has a much larger fan base in other countries of the world vs. the U.S.

[Russ_Boston]

It's strictly a person preference thing. Some LOVE baseball, football etc. and some don't. Some don't like sports at all.

It's no secret that soccer has a much larger fan base in other countries of the world vs. the U.S.

I hear and respect that bobkat - but to say soccer is just a child's game and any average Joe could be taught to compete. That must be a joke and not a real opinion.

[chuckinca]

Most high scoring soccer games are boring - the excitement is a close game and the anticipation of a goal that either elates you or bums you out.

You want scoring - watch basketball where it is only great to watch when the score is 102 to 101.

(can't believe all these golfers are concerned about high scoring sports - talk about watching the grass grow!)


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[N'awlins Lady]

True, I don’t know all the rules, but it looks pretty simple--- put the ball in the goal--- PLEASE!!! .

You don't play golf, do you? Just put the ball in the hole...simple! :1rotfl:

Trudy

[Annabelle]

Soccer matches may not be too exciting....but they sure have some good "brawls" afterwards!

[Russ_Boston]

Soccer matches may not be too exciting....but they sure have some good "brawls" afterwards!

Get some current news - brawls are rapidly becoming a bad memory in soccer. Granted the fans aren't boy scouts but much of the rough stuff is past.

[dominick]

Didn’t mean to “push any buttons” Sorry!! Oh well, who cares??
I certainly stand by my statement that soccer players are not elite athletes and that almost anyone could become a competitive player. Just do a little research on human kinetics, exercise physiology and elite athleticism. You’ll discover that soccer players have two, three at the most, of the seven athletic attributes necessary to be considered “elite” in terms of human physical performance. A power hitting, good fielding MLB centerfielder with a good throwing arm would have six of those attributes. Look it up!!
Since you didn't dispute my claim that soccer is BORING, I assume that you agree, as did most of the respondents.

[Russ_Boston]

Didn’t mean to “push any buttons” Sorry!! Oh well, who cares??
I certainly stand by my statement that soccer players are not elite athletes and that almost anyone could become a competitive player. Just do a little research on human kinetics, exercise physiology and elite athleticism. You’ll discover that soccer players have two, three at the most, of the seven athletic attributes necessary to be considered “elite” in terms of human physical performance. A power hitting, good fielding MLB centerfielder with a good throwing arm would have six of those attributes. Look it up!!
Since you didn't dispute my claim that soccer is BORING, I assume that you agree, as did most of the respondents.

Since I like to be educated then I guess an Olympic sprinter would not be athletic? I'd like to hear how many tools they have?

How about a great defensive lineman in the NFL? They don't have all those tools either do they?

If you really think that almost anyone could become a "competitive player" in soccer you are dreaming. Don't you think that with all the money the players make that more of us 'anyones' would have trained to become a great soccer player or golfer or name the non-7 tool sport if all we had to do was try?

You have obviously never tried to compete on a soccer field or a track sport.

From dictionary.com for athlete: a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill. Soccer players are in fact great athletes.

You also seem to think that soccer is just a haphazard sport where they just kick the ball and hope their teammate is on the other end. Take it from this trained former soccer coach (albeit only up to the JV high school level): That's ignorant of the sport!

And by the way NO I don't think soccer is boring when played at the highest level. There may be nothing more beautiful in sports than a well run soccer play that results in a goal.

Would I change some things about the sport if I could? Absolutely. One of the biggest problems is that once a team has a 1-0 lead, the rules make it too easy to just play defense. That is one reason the scores are so low.

I love all sports including soccer!!

[Russ_Boston]

Also: Could you please find the 7 tools you speak of. I know what you are referring to but I couldn't find it.

I think soccer players have more than the two or three as you mention.

Remember - Ball, foot, eye coordination is the same as Ball, Hand, eye coordination (in fact probably harder since we have less dexterity in our legs than we do in our arms).

[collie1228]

One more comment and then I'm out of here. A zero to zero (nil-nil) soccer game does not equate to a 1-0 or 2-0 perfect game in baseball. I concede that baseball can sometimes be boring, but at least in the 1-0 or 2-0 baseball game, somebody scored! Baseball never ends in a tie; and its never controlled by a clock. How can a fab be pleased when his team tied the other team - and there was virtually no offense? From what I've seen in the World Cup, most teams play keep away, with very few shots on goal. Sorry, not worth my time . . . but you soccer fans are certainly free to enjoy those nil-nil ties to your hearts content.

[Russ_Boston]

One more comment and then I'm out of here. A zero to zero (nil-nil) soccer game does not equate to a 1-0 or 2-0 perfect game in baseball. I concede that baseball can sometimes be boring, but at least in the 1-0 or 2-0 baseball game, somebody scored! Baseball never ends in a tie; and its never controlled by a clock. How can a fab be pleased when his team tied the other team - and there was virtually no offense? From what I've seen in the World Cup, most teams play keep away, with very few shots on goal. Sorry, not worth my time . . . but you soccer fans are certainly free to enjoy those nil-nil ties to your hearts content.

Again let's not say things that aren't true:

For example in today's matches there were 10 goals scored in the three games with only 1 of the 6 teams not scoring any.

I do agree a better clock system would be good and I'm also in favor of some sort of rule that would limit the keep away aspect.

[NJblue]

My problem with soccer (and hockey) is that there is no continuum of the offensive component of the game. It would be like a football game being played with a greased football such that it is fumbled every third play. That too would become very boring.

[chuckinca]

My problem with soccer (and hockey) is that there is no continuum of the offensive component of the game. It would be like a football game being played with a greased football such that it is fumbled every third play. That too would become very boring.

Untrue.

It is not unusual to see one team control the ball 65% of the time or more.

In today's GREAT GAME between Mexico and France that Mexico won 2-0, mid way thru the second half with Mexico leading 2-0 they completed about 12 passes in a row while the crowd chanted (above the horns) Olay . . . Olay . . . Olay at every completed pass. Stunning and completely demoralizing to the proud French Soccer Team that finished second in the last World Cup (2006) and won it in 1998.


(soccer dad U6 thru U19 [married to Team Mom]; Competitive Team Manager, Referee, League Board Member (Competitive Teams Director), League Tournament Director, District Board Member, District Tournament Director, State Tournament Board Member, Soccer Fan)
(also involved in baseball, tennis, swimming teams and scouting)

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[Russ_Boston]

Great post Chuck.

Granted the game is to everyone's taste but this American bias does get to me.

[hoseman]

Professional soccer participants are indeed excellent athletes.

It's just the game they play is boring.

(Those poor French guys).

[In awe of TV]

I just can't believe what I'm reading here. chilout

My stomach is in knots while I'm watching a soccer game. The sheer level of endurance and focus these players have is absolutely amazing!

My daughter received a 4 year scholarship to play soccer at UM. I LOVE soccer! Plus the fact that it saved me well over $150,000.

I'm with you Russ, soccer is the most exciting sport I've ever watched and I don't care what anyone else thinks.

Go U.S.A.!

[Annabelle]

In reply to my previous post regarding "brawls" after soccer matches....

R Boston wrote:

"Get some current news - brawls are rapidly becoming a bad memory in soccer. Granted the fans aren't boy scouts but much of the rough stuff is past."

Well as my "memory" serves....."brawls" go hand in glove with soccer matches ....probably the only real excitiment the fans have had all day!

Is this current enough for you Boston?

http://www.breitbart.tv/world-cup-party-turns-violent-in-chile/

Annabelle






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[Russ_Boston]

In reply to my previous post regarding "brawls" after soccer matches....

R Boston wrote:

"Get some current news - brawls are rapidly becoming a bad memory in soccer. Granted the fans aren't boy scouts but much of the rough stuff is past."

Well as my "memory" serves....."brawls" go hand in glove with soccer matches ....probably the only real excitiment the fans have had all day!

Is this current enough for you Boston?

http://www.breitbart.tv/world-cup-party-turns-violent-in-chile/

Annabelle






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I meant at the stadium - what fans do in Chile for soccer or what fans do in the streets of Montreal for hockey (last year) or what fans might do at the LA Lakers parade tomorrow is beyond the control of the event.

The main point is: Don't ridicule a sport for things outside the sport. If you don't like the sport just say so. Don't say ridiculous things like anyone can do it. Or they are not athletes. That makes any statement you make after that pointless.

[Taltarzac]

Today's game between the United States and Slovenia was very exciting to watch. At least, the last 15 minutes or so. If you have some emotional attachment to a team it seems to make the outcome more interesting.

[collie1228]

From Rick Reilly, the excellent writer for Sports Illustrated in the current issue of SI On Line: "In the NFL in the past 10 years, there have been two ties. As of Tuesday morning, in the first 11 games of this World Cup, there have been five ties. You will not see more ties at a J.C. Penney's Father's Day sale. I hate ties. Doesn't anybody want to win in this sport? All these ties are about as exciting as a Jonas Brothers roundtable on sex.

This just in: USA and Slovenia final score was 2-2.

[Russ_Boston]

From Rick Reilly, the excellent writer for Sports Illustrated in the current issue of SI On Line: "In the NFL in the past 10 years, there have been two ties. As of Tuesday morning, in the first 11 games of this World Cup, there have been five ties. You will not see more ties at a J.C. Penney's Father's Day sale. I hate ties. Doesn't anybody want to win in this sport? All these ties are about as exciting as a Jonas Brothers roundtable on sex.

This just in: USA and Slovenia final score was 2-2.

It's a ROUND ROBIN tournament - I'm sure Rick knows but you can look it up if you don't know.

Once the knockout round starts there will be no ties.

[collie1228]

AH - Now I see. Now that you mention that, the tie games don't seem so boring any more. I may be a biased American (in your view), but I don't try to insult people with snide comments. I'll send off a message to Rick Reilly to let him know, just in case.

[Russ_Boston]

AH - Now I see. Now that you mention that, the tie games don't seem so boring any more. I may be a biased American (in your view), but I don't try to insult people with snide comments. I'll send off a message to Rick Reilly to let him know, just in case.

Just wanted to make sure you knew it was round robin and why ties don't suck. If you felt insulted it was self inflicted. It's Rick's job to stir things up.

BTW check this out:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008150-504083.html

[paulandjean]

coached high school and college basketball for 23 years.taught P.E. boys and girls until retirement.There is a big difference. You can take any boy or girl and hide them in your lineup. try that in basketball and you have a big problem.I do not count them as world class athletes.Have to agree with the others soccer is boring

[Russ_Boston]

coached high school and college basketball for 23 years.taught P.E. boys and girls until retirement.There is a big difference. You can take any boy or girl and hide them in your lineup. try that in basketball and you have a big problem.I do not count them as world class athletes.Have to agree with the others soccer is boring

Just for clarification: Are you saying that they hide inferior athletes in world class soccer (for arguments sake let's say in Chelsea or Man U?)

Again you are entitled to your opinion that you don't like soccer but are you serious about them not being world class athletes? This is absurd.

You can only hide a person in soccer up to a certain level (maybe u10). After that the other teams will exploit it.

Is David Ortiz a world class athlete? The ONLY thing he can do is hit the ball. He can't run, he can't field and he has no throwing arm. And I'm a big Red Sox and David Ortiz fan. There are non-world class athletes all over major sports but they all fit on the team due to their specialties.

Soccer players need physical agility, physical stamina and speed. Plus they need outstanding athletic understanding. And they need great physical and soccer coordination skills. They are some of the most fit athletes in professional sport. Here's a nice article with some facts:http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/soccertraining.html


No insult intended but you guys are absolutely NUTS! :)

Is this some conspiracy to make me crazy?

In the USA we tend to think that if we put all of our best athletes into the soccer program we would dominate. For the most part it is a different body type that is needed. Some would make great soccer players but others (Lebron James for example) just don't have the body makeup to succeed at the highest level. He's simply too big.

Do you remember who who three of the first five superstars competitions? When it was a real athletic event not just a showcase? Kyle Rote Jr. SOCCER player!

I'm done on this topic - if you want to discuss this lunacy in person I'll be there in two years:)

[l2ridehd]

And how do you really feel about it Russ? :wave: Although I do agree with you, soccer probably requires the most physical stamina of any sport. Maybe Olympic cross country skiing is more. But soccer is right near the top.

[dominick]

Ah come on Russ!! No hard feelings here!! Ok?? It’s been fun seeing you get all riled up and serious about something so trivial and meaningless. Didn’t mean to pull your chain. I just threw this out as a topic to see if anyone would bite. I’m not bored by soccer because I don’t watch it or care about it, and I know of no research or criteria that would indicate that soccer players are not elite athletes, which they probably are. Relax, man!! We’ll get together for a few beers when you move down here!!!

[Russ_Boston]

We’ll get together for a few beers when you move down here!!!

You got it:)

[The Great Fumar]

Yesterday I accidentally turn on soccer and then couldn't change channels as my remote control lost battery power.....By the time I changed batteries and returned to the tv there was a Blue message on my screen saying the cable company realized that I must have turned on soccer by accident because no one in their right mind would turn it on purpose and it would be removed from my bill........Their was also a note that said it wasn't meant to be a game for adults , it was designed for kids who can't do anything but run and kick...

Love my cable company..............:yuck:

fumar

WE DO OUR PART ....

[NJblue]

Untrue.

It is not unusual to see one team control the ball 65% of the time or more.

In today's GREAT GAME between Mexico and France that Mexico won 2-0, mid way thru the second half with Mexico leading 2-0 they completed about 12 passes in a row while the crowd chanted (above the horns) Olay . . . Olay . . . Olay at every completed pass. Stunning and completely demoralizing to the proud French Soccer Team that finished second in the last World Cup (2006) and won it in 1998.


(soccer dad U6 thru U19 [married to Team Mom]; Competitive Team Manager, Referee, League Board Member (Competitive Teams Director), League Tournament Director, District Board Member, District Tournament Director, State Tournament Board Member, Soccer Fan)
(also involved in baseball, tennis, swimming teams and scouting)

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I think this post proves my point rather than disproves it. First, the amount of time that one team controls the offense says nothing about the number of turnovers that occur during the course of the game - it's more a statistic that may indicate a mismatch.

Secondly to highlight a match where there were 12 successive passes as something incredibly exciting (i.e., out of the norm) is indicative of the fact that the norm is one of more frequent turnovers. Even if 12 passes was the norm, can you imagine a football game (American variety) where there was a turnover every 12 plays? It would be described (correctly) as a very sloppily played game and the fans would be booing.

I'm not going to claim that soccer players are not good athletes. I suspect they are. But, I find the constant change of possesion, mostly without even a shot on goal, to be very boring. Obvioulsy, I'm at odds with the majority of the world.

[The Great Fumar]

I rest my case

[tkret]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imc7yMY9amc

[chuckinca]

From Rick Reilly, the excellent writer for Sports Illustrated in the current issue of SI On Line: "In the NFL in the past 10 years, there have been two ties. As of Tuesday morning, in the first 11 games of this World Cup, there have been five ties. You will not see more ties at a J.C. Penney's Father's Day sale. I hate ties. Doesn't anybody want to win in this sport? All these ties are about as exciting as a Jonas Brothers roundtable on sex.

This just in: USA and Slovenia final score was 2-2.

There are winners and losers in most soccer ties.

In the England vs USA tie: England heavily favored to win, USA down 0-1 early in game, came back and tied. The USA was a big winner and England were big loser.

In USA vs Slovenia Tie: USA heavily favored to win; USA down 0-2 in first half. came back and tied. USA was expecting to win the game going into it and normally a tie would be a USA loss; however, because they were down by two early and fought back to the tie, the USA was a winner and Slovenia a loser.

in England vs Algeria 0-0 Tie: England heavily favored to win; a tie was a major win for Algeria and a major loss for England. And the USA and Slovenia were winners by the tie of the other two group C members.

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[chuckinca]

Yesterday I accidentally turn on soccer and then couldn't change channels as my remote control lost battery power.....By the time I changed batteries and returned to the tv there was a Blue message on my screen saying the cable company realized that I must have turned on soccer by accident because no one in their right mind would turn it on purpose and it would be removed from my bill........Their was also a note that said it wasn't meant to be a game for adults , it was designed for kids who can't do anything but run and kick...

Love my cable company..............:yuck:

fumar

WE DO OUR PART ....


Stick with kicking around dogs.

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[chuckinca]

i think this post proves my point rather than disproves it. First, the amount of time that one team controls the offense says nothing about the number of turnovers that occur during the course of the game - it's more a statistic that may indicate a mismatch.

Secondly to highlight a match where there were 12 successive passes as something incredibly exciting (i.e., out of the norm) is indicative of the fact that the norm is one of more frequent turnovers. Even if 12 passes was the norm, can you imagine a football game (american variety) where there was a turnover every 12 plays? It would be described (correctly) as a very sloppily played game and the fans would be booing.

I'm not going to claim that soccer players are not good athletes. I suspect they are. But, i find the constant change of possesion, mostly without even a shot on goal, to be very boring. Obvioulsy, i'm at odds with the majority of the world.


obviously.


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[The Great Fumar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imc7yMY9amc

I didn't know the circus is in town ,,,,,,,

fumar

[zcaveman]

There are winners and losers in most soccer ties.

In the England vs USA tie: England heavily favored to win, USA down 0-1 early in game, came back and tied. The USA was a big winner and England were big loser.

In USA vs Slovenia Tie: USA heavily favored to win; USA down 0-2 in first half. came back and tied. USA was expecting to win the game going into it and normally a tie would be a USA loss; however, because they were down by two early and fought back to the tie, the USA was a winner and Slovenia a loser.

in England vs Algeria 0-0 Tie: England heavily favored to win; a tie was a major win for Algeria and a major loss for England. And the USA and Slovenia were winners by the tie of the other two group C members.

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Whether they were winners or losers because they were upset or upset the other team by kicking to a tie or a draw, the only thing that counts in the end is the standing in the division at the end of the day.

A 0-0 tie is zip points. A 2-2 tie is 2 points each (I think) but still a tie.

But they have bragging rights at the bar because they beat a team they should have lost to.

[chuckinca]

You're correct - the only thing that matters (in the tournament) is the standings.

0-0 is 1 point and zero goal differential and 0 goals for

2-2 is 1 point and zero goal differential and 2 goals for

2-2 is better than 0-0 which is why the US is ahead of England in the group standings even though they both have 2 points from tieing both their games so far. In next week's last game of the group round England has to score 3 more goals or more than the US to get a higher position IF they both have the same result (win, lose or tie). They are both favored to win so the 2 goal advantage the US has is a very good position, it could mean the difference between continuing in the tournament to the knock out games (where the group stage results are not involved) and heading home; or playing the 1st place team in Group D (probably Germany) or the 2nd place team in Group D (probably Serbia). . . NOBODY wants to play Germany when they can play Serbia or whoever finishes second to Germany.

Like other sports, soccer has some complicated nuances that take time to understand. (want to discuss offside or handball?)


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[Taltarzac]

Except that I am glad that an African team is in contention for the 2010 World Cup. Makes for more entertaining games if the host continent still has a team in play.

The 2014 World Cup should be a shoe-in for Brazil with Brazil's history in the World Cup as well as that country being the site of the next World Cup.

[chuckinca]

World Cups have only been won by teams from Europe and South America.

They need to change the name of the Cup.


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[The Great Fumar]

Hey guys , What happened yesterday, I didn't get to see the game...I had to trim my toe nails and then fell asleep .........

narcoleptic fumar

[chuckinca]

I thought I saw you in the luxury box with Bill Clinton, Mick Jagger and Katie Couric.




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[Shimpy]

I agree, Soccer is boring. Anytime a game goes on forever and the score is only 1-0 is boring. I can appreciate the skill of the players as compared to the average player, but I'm tired of them trying to shove soccer down our throats in this country. If its so great we will get interested, but for now I'd rather clean my garage than watch a world cup match.

[Pturner]

I agree, Soccer is boring. Anytime a game goes on forever and the score is only 1-0 is boring. I can appreciate the skill of the players as compared to the average player, but I'm tired of them trying to shove soccer down our throats in this country. If its so great we will get interested, but for now I'd rather clean my garage than watch a world cup match.

Would you rather clean mine, by any chance? :D