POA Forum Is History

[downeaster]

Following is a quote from the POA web site:

"The POA Forum has been discontinued. For infromation on The Villages, and their associated forum, the POA recommends Talk of The Villages."

That forum had very little activity, therefore, its demise.

Their quote implies TOTV is an associated forum of The Villages. Where did they get that impression? (That's a rhetorical question.) The admin of TOTV has made it abundantly clear it is in no way "associated" with The Villages Developer.

[Pturner]

Following is a quote from the POA web site:

"The POA Forum has been discontinued. For infromation on The Villages, and their associated forum, the POA recommends Talk of The Villages."

That forum had very little activity, therefore, its demise.

Their quote implies TOTV is an associated forum of The Villages. Where did they get that impression? (That's a rhetorical question.) The admin of TOTV has made it abundantly clear it is in no way "associated" with The Villages Developer.

Hi Downeaster,
Thanks for the news. The POA is/was independent of the developer. My guess is that the POA recommended TOTV because it is an independent voice not associated with the developer.

[villages07]

The rest of the POA website is intact. Looks like they only discontinued the discussion forum (very low activity). It was nice of them to give TOTV a plug and a link ... although their wording does imply that TOTV is an official arm of "The Villages".

[tony]

It is correct that Talk of The Villages is not associated with The Villages
developer. We and our members value our independence.

I think the POA knows this, also, and the wording on its web site was just an
unfortunate juxtaposition. It happens, like a misplaced modifier.

I wanted to state this clearly so nobody thinks we are hiding behind members'
supporting comments. This is straight from the horse's mouth. (Careful there,
people)

Did anybody ever wonder about that talking horse that knows all that stuff?

[uujudy]

It is correct that Talk of The Villages is not associated with The Villages
developer. We and our members value our independence.

I think the POA knows this, also, and the wording on its web site was just an
unfortunate juxtaposition. It happens, like a misplaced modifier.

I wanted to state this clearly so nobody thinks we are hiding behind members'
supporting comments. This is straight from the horse's mouth. (Careful there,
people)

Did anybody ever wonder about that talking horse that knows all that stuff?

Here ya go, Mr. Misplaced Modifier: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080531083459AAzWHUU

:crap2: :girlneener: :crap2:

[chuckinca]

It is correct that Talk of The Villages is not associated with The Villages
developer. We and our members value our independence.

I think the POA knows this, also, and the wording on its web site was just an
unfortunate juxtaposition. It happens, like a misplaced modifier.

I wanted to state this clearly so nobody thinks we are hiding behind members'
supporting comments. This is straight from the horse's mouth. (Careful there,
people)

Did anybody ever wonder about that talking horse that knows all that stuff?



Please furnish other examples of "misplaced modifiers" similar to the POA's.


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[Boomer]

Please furnish other examples of "misplaced modifiers" similar to the POA's.


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Hi Chuck,

I'll help. For some reason I just can't resist a question if I think I might be able to give an answer. Sometimes I know I act like I must think I am some kind of librarian or schoolmarm or whatever.

Anyway, 'bout dem misplaced modifiers.......a long time ago here on TOTV, uujudy introduced us to a great site called "Grammar Girl." And when I saw your question, I went to that site and found a whole bunch of stuff about misplaced modifiers. Here it is.....

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/misplaced-modifiers.aspx

And I promise that I will not give you a test. Well, at least I will try really, really hard not to give you a test. I promise.

Boomer Brooks

[Talk Host]

Chuck,

Examples:

Do you just want a few? or Do you want just a few?

[mulligan]

I only want just a couple.

[bkcunningham1]

Incorrect: The post was deleted by the Talk Host with disinformation.
Correct: The post with disinformation was deleted by the Talk Host.

Before we continue with this lesson, I must ask you to clear any information about misplaced modifiers from your mind, if you have any.

[graciegirl]

:ohdear:

Oh Lord.

Please spare me from feeling so dumb associating with all of these English Majors.

Amen

:1rotfl:

[Talk Host]

Chuck,

Examples:

Do you just want a few? or Do you want just a few?


Do, just, you want a few?

[tony]

I think both the Incorrect and the Correct examples there are really correct.

As for the mind? I am looking still? I still am looking? I am still looking?

[Pturner]

Tuna are biting off the coast of Oregon.

[Boomer]

Tuna are biting off the coast of Oregon.

That's a really good example, Pt, and you inspired me to think of one, too. Thanks.........

While driving to the vet, my dog got nervous and threw up.

Boomer

[downeaster]

This discussion brings back memories of a song with a line like this:

"I threw my father from the train a kiss"

I can not remember any more of it. That may be a good thing.

[graciegirl]

This discussion brings back memories of a song with a line like this:

"I threw my father from the train a kiss"

I can not remember any more of it. That may be a good thing.

That sounds like German sentence structure.

[Coconuts]

And if you speak Rhode Island: Throw your father upstairs the keys!

[Pturner]

My dog only wants to pee in Fumar's yard.

[downeaster]

That sounds like German sentence structure.

I believe it was. That was back when jokes and songs could get away with such behavior. If I remember correctly, it was about a kid going off to summer camp.

It seems now that seniors are the only unprotected species when it comes to being the subject of jokes.

Wow, this thread has certainly got off the tracks. Should I say derailed?

[graciegirl]

I believe it was. That was back when jokes and songs could get away with such behavior. If I remember correctly, it was about a kid going off to summer camp.

It seems now that seniors are the only unprotected species when it comes to being the subject of jokes.

Wow, this thread has certainly got off the tracks. Should I say derailed?

Your behavior is fine with me. Our college student granddaughter completed her spring quarter in Austria and returned here to Cincinnati a couple weeks ago. We tease her about "thinking" in German. Those are the kinds of things she is saying recently.

P.S. I love it when the thread gets derailed. It probably annoys Tony though.:shocked:

[tony]

:police:

[uujudy]

What an interesting discussion! I don't recall discussing (much less thinking about) misplaced modifiers in the past 40 or 50 years, yet here we are, stretching our little gray cells and learning something new so we can astound everybody at the next block party. :throwtomatoes: Or not.

Boomer, I actually watched the video about the new punctuation mark at your Grammar Girl link. :22yikes:

[chuckinca]

What was the modifier that the POA misplaced?


(flunked 10th grade English by Mrs Traphagen)


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[graciegirl]

What was the modifier that the POA misplaced?


(flunked 10th grade English by Mrs Traphagen)


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Sit right here with me.

[Talk Host]

Ah, but what about gerunds?

JLK

[tony]

Geez, all I said way back there is that it happens, LIKE a misplaced modifier. It was just an innocent hyperbolic gerundism, until the English majors got ahold of it.

[Whalen]

Boy o Boy, talk about soccer being boring (no offense Russ) I think TOTV wins hands down...GERUNDS??????

[bkcunningham1]

I think the issue here is the juxtaposition of the statement made by the POA about TOTV stance in regards to information about TV. The misplaced modifier and the gerund are incidental to the original discussion. Also, a gerund must end in the suffix -ing in order for the verb to become a verbal and act as a noun.

[Boomer]

Boy o Boy, talk about soccer being boring (no offense Russ) I think TOTV wins hands down...GERUNDS??????

Yeah, well, you think it's been boring around here? Wellllllll, I will show you boring.......

I have a really sore throat. I feel like my throat is going to come out through my ears. I have a temperature. I do not have time for this. It has been going on for a few days even. And now it is Sunday. And now I think I am going to have to go find a Doc-in-a-Box. The Doc-in-a-Box will give me antibiotics. I get all weirded up about taking antibiotics. I rarely take them. I gotta be really hurting before I take antibiotics. It is a beautiful day and I am a whiny butt with a sore throat. And did I tell you that I have a temperature? And did I tell you how much I hate to take antibiotics? But I think I am going to have to. And did I tell you about my sore throat and how bad it hurts? Or is it badly???

And also, when Judy said that thing about the link having a video about a new punctuation mark, I tried to see the video, too. And I could not get it to play. And now there is a punctuation mark out there that I have never heard of. And I cannot play the video. And I am devastated. And, yeah, I know that I bastardize the heck out of punctuation marks, but I know I am doing it and I do not care. And I also write in sentence fragments. And I like doing that. Yes. I do.

And also, I know Mr. Tony, Mr. Admin, Sir is an English major. He is always trying to fake us out about that. But he has to be an English major. Did you see him use the word 'juxtaposition' a few posts back? Didya? Didya? Huh? And he started this whole thing about modifiers. And I don't think it is a problem with a misplaced modifier anyway. I think it's an awkward sentence structure that just needs a little clarification and a better word choice than 'associated.' - - (And now for a shameless confession. I, Boomer B. Boomer, read the POA newsletter online sometimes. I don't know what happened to their forum, but the newsletter is still there I think. And I will continue to read it. Yes! I will! I know nothing is perfect. I like a little balance in my information. I think balance is a good thing. I am a Libra. Yes. I am. We like balance. I always buy chairs in pairs.)

Soooo, how's that for boring.....

Boomer -- face down in the stream of consciousness again...and did I tell you that I have a sore throat and a fever? Yes. I do.

[bkcunningham1]

Boomer, I am sorry to hear you are under the weather. I hope you are feeling better soon. Here's something to pass the time until you shine again like the sun. Reading is good medicine for a sore throat, that is, if it is done silently.

http://www.twobells.com/Writing_Online/rayas-dungeon/Welcome.htm

[downeaster]

](And now for a shameless confession. I, Boomer B. Boomer, read the POA newsletter online sometimes. I don't know what happened to their forum, but the newsletter is still there I think. And I will continue to read it. Yes! I will! I know nothing is perfect. I like a little balance in my information. I think balance is a good thing. I am a Libra. Yes. I am. We like balance. I always buy chairs in pairs.) [/SIZE]

Soooo, how's that for boring.....

Boomer -- face down in the stream of consciousness again...and did I tell you that I have a sore throat and a fever? Yes. I do.

I agree in triplicate. The POA point of view is often in conflict with mine but it serves a purpose.

Hope you are on the mend, Boomer.

[Boomer]

After my fevered, boring post earlier today, Mr Boomer and I ventured out to find a Doc-in-a-Box. The Doc-in-a-Box we found looked like the doctor in those Norman Rockwell paintings. And, of course, if a doctor steps right out from a Norman Rockwell painting and tells you that you need to do something, well � you do exactly what he tells you to do. And so I am taking an antibiotic. I really do believe that I feel better already. So if I am going to write any other fevered posts, I guess I had better hurry.

Boomer

[uujudy]

Talk Host, Gerunds? Really? I think you might be a little bit of a troublemaker. . . :jester:

BKCunningham, You definitely win the prize! :eclipsee_gold_cup:
Thanks for the definition AND the link to Raya's Dungeon. I especially enjoyed the dungeon of Mutilating Modifiers and Damaging Dirty Dangling Participles!

Boomer, I'm sad that you couldn't play the video in your feverish state. :sad: Boo Hoo

And now I'm going to sit with Chuck and Gracie.

[zcaveman]

Tony - you know how you have a trash can for deleted posts on the listing view? Maybe you should have an icon for hijacked post.

It is not that I don't mind the banter but it detracts from the subject matter.

And yes - I know I am just as much to blame.

:duck:

[SALYBOW]

Misinformation...or mind????:22yikes:

[TrudyM]

What an interesting discussion! I don't recall discussing (much less thinking about) misplaced modifiers in the past 40 or 50 years, yet here we are, stretching our little gray cells and learning something new so we can astound everybody at the next block party. :throwtomatoes: Or not.

Boomer, I actually watched the video about the new punctuation mark at your Grammar Girl link. :22yikes:

Lucky you, I am not an english major and I often have my modifiers in the wrong place. Living with a Hawaiian has made it worse. Alot of statments in Asian languages have the qualifiers at the end, as a result people who grew up speaking hawaiian pigin, often put the modifiers and qualifiers at the end of the statement and you have to kind of guess what they mean. My husband has worked hard over 30 plus years and his grammer has really gotten much better, however mine has gotten worse.

I wonder how many mistakes I made in that blurb.

[tony]

What does your husband do, sweep all the adjectives in a paragraph into a pile at the end?

[TrudyM]

What does your husband do, sweep all the adjectives in a paragraph into a pile at the end?

The bigest mistake Hawaiians use is they use the word "for" when they mean "to". People are always saying " We go for eat." instead of We are going out to eat." Or they double up like. The kind is more better. (means the thing a ma jig is alot better than that one.) Alot of Hawaiians can speak correct english if they want to it is just slang and a habbit, but others who grew up only hearing pigin have to work hard to speak correctly. Sort of like Ebonics.

But an example would be the call I got this week from my brother inlaw.
Larry there? I need for talk later. What time is 4 or three , before or after?

He means, Is Larry home. I will call back later. Is the time differnce 3 or 4 hours and is it earlier or later there?

[Pturner]

Gerundit! When I'm not misplacing my modifiers, I'm loosing my marbles. :shrug:

[Annabelle]

What is POA?

[chuckinca]

Property Owners Association.

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[chuckinca]

Sit right here with me.


So after Mrs Traphagen made me do 10th grade English again and I got sent into 3rd track (from 1st track) I got to spend the next two years in English checking out Joanne Feldhouse's mini skirt. Joanne did well after HS and was a Northwest Airlines Stew back in the days when Stews were hot.

GG being a former hollaback girl probably was not a bad person to sit next to either.




PS: Boomer, you need to sit with us two/too

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[Boomer]

So after Mrs Traphagen made me do 10th grade English again and I got sent into 3rd track (from 1st track) I got to spend the next two years in English checking out Joanne Feldhouse's mini skirt. Joanne did well after HS and was a Northwest Airlines Stew back in the days when Stews were hot.

GG being a former hollaback girl probably was not a bad person to sit next to either.

PS: Boomer, you need to sit with us two/too

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Hey chuck,

I had to look twice when you said Gracie was a "hollaback girl." And then it dawned on me what it meant. I did what Mrs. Traphagen probably taught you to do when you did not know what a word meant. -- Use the context clues. And I knew that Gracie was a cheerleader (and I bet she was fun to sit next to in class) and then I realized what “hollaback girl” means.…..

"Gimme a T!"

"T" (the holler back)

"Gimme a V !" (the next holler back)

A hollaback girl is a cheerleader!

Thanks for teaching me a new word. Mrs. Traphagen would be proud of you.

Now, about you and Mrs. Traphagen……..……

First of all, please take a look at that sentence, “Mrs. Traphagen made me do 10th grade English again.” -- Sooooo, that’s how you still see it….allllll these years later. Mrs. Traphagen made you. Oh my goodness. You had nothing to do with it huh. Are you sure you do not still owe the unforgettable Mrs. Traphagen a two-page essay on Silas Marner?

Please understand that I am not trying to give you a hard time. And I am glad things worked out so well for you. But for some reason, I feel compelled to speak up for the Mrs. Traphagens everywhere.

Nobody ever has flashbacks about their math teachers or their history teachers. Nooooooo, it’s always the English teacher -- well, sometimes it’s the phys ed teacher -- but mostly, it’s all those poor, misunderstood Mrs. Traphagens out there. Did you know that sometimes things can get so difficult and complicated that English teachers have to pretend that they are not English teachers?

I have been around here for a long time and I have already told the story about my friend the English teacher who sometimes lied when asked what kind of work she did. In fact I think I have told the story twice since 2007. But at risk of being criticized for being redundant, I think I need to tell it again, in case you have not seen it. This might give you a glimpse into what it could be like to be an English teacher. English teachers know how they are perceived. And sometimes they just gotta do what they gotta do……

If you have read this little story before, forgive me, but I think it is appropriate here in the defense of all those English teachers out there. Sometimes people just need to walk a mile in their sensible shoes. Here's the summer rerun........

A friend of mine is an English teacher. (The most besmirched of all the English majors.) Anyway, in our younger days, when she was still single, she would sometimes go with her friends to a bar, also known as a meet market, to see if there were any possibilities there.

She was a clever English major because she knew exactly what to do when some guy started hitting on her by asking, "Hey, baby, what's your sign?"

She would tell him her sign. (A lot of English majors are Libras I bet.) And she would wait for the next question which was usually, "Where do you work?"

If she thought he was cute and had possibilities, she would say, "I work for the phone company." (I don't know why she picked the phone company, but she always said that.)

Of course, if she thought he was a jerk or a loser, she would just say, "I am an English teacher." She knew that would guarantee that he would flee or at least move down a couple of barstools.

With the ones she liked, she used her way with words to lure them in. Later, when she got around to telling them that she did not really work for the phone company and that she was, in fact, an English teacher, by that time, those guys were so completely smitten that they always said they understood and forgave her immediately.

She eventually married a guy who came to fix her furnace. And fix it he did. And they lived happily ever after.

- - - - - - -

So anyway, the point of all this is that English teachers might need to be cut a little slack. It’s not easy to grade all those papers and to try to teach teenagers to appreciate literature and to hang around in bars all night telling lies and to have a furnace that needs fixing.

Boomer

[bkcunningham1]

Boomer, just imagine if fate had twisted differently for you English teacher friend. What if the man who fixed her furnace had left after stoking her coals and said, "I'll holla back at ya"? I'm sure your English teacher friend would have screamed at him and his departing toolbox, "I aint no holla back girl."

(Gwen Stefani, songwriter of I Ain't No Hollaback Girl, contributed to this response.)

[tony]

I was hoping somebody here, not just me, would know about Gwen Stefani and
her hollaback girl song. (Imagine that one being played on The Villages radio
station. Probably not until 2060.)

Unlucky as I am with internet searches, I could not find a link to Gwen's song
that would play here. That's O.K. because Gracie won't like it.

[graciegirl]

I was hoping somebody here, not just me, would know about Gwen Stefani and
her hollaback girl song. (Imagine that one being played on The Villages radio
station. Probably not until 2060.)

Unlucky as I am with internet searches, I could not find a link to Gwen's song
that would play here. That's O.K. because Gracie won't like it.

Somebody find that song!:evil6::evil6::undecided:

[bkcunningham1]

I could post it but only with Tony's permission. I actually love the music in the song. I think it is B-A-N-A-N-A-S. It was a standard in a Jazzercise class I took a few years back.

[graciegirl]

I could post it but only with Tony's permission. I actually love the music in the song. I think it is B-A-N-A-N-A-S. It was a standard in a Jazzercise class I took a few years back.

I found it too. You couldn't post it because it has the word sh**, MANY times. It appears that a fella wants to fight with another one behind the bleacher and says that he ain't no (cheerleader) hollaback girl.

Is that right?

GREAT MUSIC. Toe tappin!

[bkcunningham1]

Easier than posting it Gracie, do a Google search for YouTube. When you get to the YouTube site, search at the top in their search window for Hollaback Girl-Gwen Stefani. It's not a vulgar video or anything I think you'd find offensive. Just alot of bootie shaking and midriff showing. BTW, the singer/songwriter in the video will be 41 years old in October!! She's been sneaking into the swimming pools at TV at night getting rejuvenated.

Gracie, the YouTube video actual skips over the profanity that you read in the lyrics online and you don't hear the word...umm...you know.

[tony]

You know how some people post a link here to a YouTube video. That's what I wanted to do, and could not find one.

[Boomer]

Good morning,

And oh my goodness. What in the world are you talking about?

Like I explained here last night, I know that "hollaback girl" in the context originally used by chuck meant that gracie was a cheerleader. And even though her skirt might have been plaid and not a mini-skirt, I bet the boys liked to sit next to her in class, too, just like the cheerleader that chuck got to sit next to in 10th grade English. (Haven't you ever noticed that gracie looks like Mitzi Gaynor and probably has legs like Mitzi's, too. The legs are the last thing to go, you know.)

And, about that song, I do not know that one either. But I have been wanting to tell you all about a new song I learned. We have been on the road and while visiting some friends, we were taken to a place to hear some live local entertainment, country music and blues, too. Two of my favorite kinds of music. I can request songs for quite a while in a place like that. And Mr. Boomer keeps the tip jar fat.

Anyway, we were with a group of retirees who were regulars at this place. They had a favorite song that I had never heard. They knew all the words and sang along with the chorus.

I am going to link it here, even though it is not even close to midnight. It comes with a warning, in case anybody thinks they might be far too "cultured" for such a song. I found the link on youtube and I will be finding it on iTunes soon so I can buy it. If you want to listen while you read TOTV this morning, just crank up your speakers and minus the link to the bottom of the screen and see just how "cultured" you can be.

The song is called "Meet Me With Your Black Drawers On."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-__IOnHlC8 EDIT: i ALWAYS CHECK MY LINKS AND FOR SOME REASON i DID NOT CHECK THAT BEFORE i SENT IT. -- Anyway, if you want to hear it, go to youtube, type in the title, and click on the one that says Gloria Hardiman. I apologize for messing up the link. I got in a hurry. Gotta get out of here this morning before I get kicked out.)

Can you imagine if somebody looks in here, expecting a thread about the POA. Ohhhhh, this thread jumped the track long ago.

Boomer

[tony]

Here's Gwen, with the bad word blipped. (I don't know why.)

Gracie will love the cheerleaders. I know.
Hollaback Girl

[bkcunningham1]

The Google spider tracking me this morning is going to have fun. It has seen me search RollingStone magazine, YouTube, Hollaback Girl, Meet me with Your Black Drawers On and Kahlil Gibran...oh my goodness, I can only imagine the advertisements that will come my way!!

[uujudy]

Thanks for the definition! I always liked the song but had no idea what a hollaback girl was. :shrug:

[Boomer]

OK. This thread has gone so far off track that even I -- the self-proclaimed Queen of the Hijackers -- am completely confused. Which one in the video was gracie?

Boomer

[uujudy]

Boomer, Gracie was the CUTE one, of course!

[bkcunningham1]

Parts of this video are racier than Gwen Stepani's!! Wow, she does look like Gracie's photo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFKdSzktJLE

[graciegirl]

Once I had earrings like that. I can still fit into them too.:smiley:

[bkcunningham1]

Gracie you, uujudy and Boomer are toooo funny.

[tony]

The Google spider tracking me this morning is going to have fun. It has seen me search RollingStone magazine, YouTube, Hollaback Girl, Meet me with Your Black Drawers On and Kahlil Gibran...oh my goodness, I can only imagine the advertisements that will come my way!!

Ohhhh, bkc, you didn't read your lesson. I can see that. I think we will have to call in Mrs. Traphagen, or Boomer.

Spiders don't track you, they crawl around pages sending information back to Google. They read your posts, but they don't track you.

Where is Mrs. Traphagen when I need her?

[bkcunningham1]

I did read it Tony. I read it several times trying to really grasp what you were saying. I just didn't retain the information or understand the information or maybe both. Okay, so let me see if I can understand this. Spiders crawl and cookies track? And the snakes crawl at night, that's what they say. Wait, I may be confusing my facts with something I watched on YouTube.

[chuckinca]

Boomer - Bars are meat markets.

Our high school 50th reunion is next year and I bet there will be many stories about many teachers (one of which will be about the football coach/PE teacher/Drivers Ed teacher, Mr Rod Hansen, who played in the college football all-star game against the NFL champs in Chicago's Soldier Field and came on as a sub in the 3rd quarter of the game with the wrong color jersey on - they usta show the film of that game to incoming freshmen male PE students to start off HS with a good laugh).

And Gwen Stefani can sit nearby too, even with her plastic boobs (when she originally became famous with the group "No Doubt" she was famously flat chested)

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[downeaster]

This is the 64th post in this thread since I started it. The first four replies dealt with the original subject. The following 60 have been way off subject but much more fun than my original.

Keep that good humor and wit coming.

By the way, very educational too. I had never heard of a "hollaback". And, I had to look up "gerund".

[tony]

This is very close to what I was trying to explain,
and much more clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIS5n9Oyzsc

[mak44070]

NOW I understand :girlneener:

mary ann

[bkcunningham1]

You should have said that in the first place.

Oh my goodness. I have tears streaming down my face and my jaw hurts from laughing so hard. But seriously, is the dinglearm attached to the macalator valve?

[Pturner]

But seriously, is the dinglearm attached to the macalator valve?

Only in the bedroom.

[bkcunningham1]

Pturner, you go sit with Chuck and Gracie. You are a mess my friend. A wonderful funny mess. (You and your wigs.)

[graciegirl]

omigosh. I have to change my drawers.

[chuckinca]

omigosh. I have to change my drawers.


too funny for u?


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[uujudy]

I think Gracie means she has to put her black drawers on