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kpd3062
09-18-2019, 08:45 PM
Goldwingnut pondered the question on his recent video of how is the noise down in the linden,monarch grove area? Any of y'all who live close to the turnpike can give your input would be great. I have seen some great house prices along the streets that back up to the turnpike but wonder if it's worth the deal. Thanks for any input.

VApeople
09-18-2019, 09:30 PM
We live in Osceola Hills but we often go to Linden, Monarch Grove, and Marsh Bend to enjoy the beautiful walking trails. When the wind is blowing toward the southwest, the noise from the turnpike is pretty bad in all three areas..

In our neighborhood, the noise from Route 44 is also bad when the wind is blowing toward the north. However, most of the time, we do not even notice the noise. Maybe the people living in Linden, MG, and MB feel the same way.

Schaumburger
09-19-2019, 01:25 AM
I am not a Village resident...hopefully in a few years. I am here in The Villages for a visit. A few days ago I went to an open house for a home in Monarch Grove on Hickey Way. Hickey Way runs parallel/backs up to the turnpike. When I got out of the car, I could hear the traffic from the turnpike quite well. Inside the home with the A/C on, the noise was not bad. I went out into the lanai, which is in the rear of the home. I could see the tops of the semi trucks from the turnpike. The noise on the lanai from the turnpike was pretty bad.

I commented on the turnpike noise to the sales rep. from The Villages. She replied the homes on this street are priced accordingly because of the turnpike noise.

So if you don't plan on using your lanai, these houses could be a good deal. If I was seriously looking to buy now, the turnpike noise would be a deal breaker for me as I love sitting on the lanai in the morning and evening.

if you are considering a home close to the turnpike, I would go to an open house for a home close to the turnpike to judge for yourself. Stand in the yard for a few minutes, or sit in your car with the windows rolled down when you are parked next to the house.

Chatbrat
09-19-2019, 02:32 AM
Would you buy a house that was close to train tracks, an airport--I don't think so--the noise on the tpk is constant--it will get into your head--

Martian
09-19-2019, 03:05 AM
We moved into Carla Villas in McClure about 2 weeks ago. One of the contributing factors in picking here instead of Taylor Villas was the Turnpike is so much closer there. We did not hear the turnpike inside the house at Taylor Villa, but could hear it outside in the yard. At Carla Villa in McClure We have not heard the Turnpike outside - yet. We can still hear construction, but that will be o ver soon. Inside the house there is no noise except the frequent neighbors yards being mowed. I will be glad when the yard maintenance people all convert to electric! :)

Goldwingnut
09-19-2019, 05:12 AM
Having grown up on Air Force bases and listening to jet fighters take off at all hours and then living near train tracks a substantial part of my adult life it’s hard for me to objectively consider the turnpike noise level either loud or noticeable. My mental filters kick in quickly with background noise to allow me to ignore it. That’s why I asked the question in the video.

I’ve sat on the lanai at night in the summer and heard the trains roll through in Wildwood and found the sound almost comforting. Hearing a low flying plane going overhead is an intoxicating sound to my strangely formed mind. I guess I’ve a few wires crossed.

BK001
09-19-2019, 05:26 AM
Having grown up on Air Force bases and listening to jet fighters take off at all hours and then living near train tracks a substantial part of my adult life it’s hard for me to objectively consider the turnpike noise level either loud or noticeable. My mental filters kick in quickly with background noise to allow me to ignore it. That’s why I asked the question in the video.

I’ve sat on the lanai at night in the summer and heard the trains roll through in Wildwood and found the sound almost comforting. Hearing a low flying plane going overhead is an intoxicating sound to my strangely formed mind. I guess I’ve a few wires crossed.

We are in Lynnhaven and can hear the train's whistle/horn when it is passing though. It is about 1 mile away. I love the sound and don't find it distracting. Now that we are here close to 3 years, I have become used to/unaware of it and sometimes even miss it. But it is not a constant noise like highway traffic -- only occasionally. I think some people are more sensitive to any noise than others and feel that a lot of the advice given in prior posts to be good.

Now about the gas cutting -- both ours and the neighbors -- I find that very distracting when sitting on the lanai but fortunately it is no more than 1-2 times per week and only lasts a couple of hours.

coffeebean
09-19-2019, 06:37 AM
I find traffic drone noise to be very fatiguing and irritating. Hubby feels as I do. We would not ever consider living near a major roadway with constant traffic noise created from high speed vehicular traffic. There is no deal on this planet that would entice me to live near the Turnpike.

UptownBee
09-19-2019, 07:09 AM
I don't post much but wanted to weigh in on this because we were looking at homes in Monarch Grove about 2 weeks ago. To be honest, the 1st time we went to look at the houses I didn't immediately notice the turnpike noise, most likely because we were inside the house most of the time. However, when we went back with the sole intention of gauging the turnpike noise you can definitely hear it if you're listening for it. We were looking at a house that was very close to the Swallowtail pool so I was surprised I could still hear the noise with so many rows of houses between the house we were looking at and the turnpike. It's a really nice area and you definitely don't hear the turnpike noise when you're in your house, but, if you love sitting in your lanai the noise might get old. NOTE: Our realtor said (or maybe my wife, can't remember) that as the foliage matures in the area the noise should be reduced.

Two Bills
09-19-2019, 07:20 AM
We are in Lynnhaven and can hear the train's whistle/horn when it is passing though. It is about 1 mile away. I love the sound and don't find it distracting. Now that we are here close to 3 years, I have become used to/unaware of it and sometimes even miss it. But it is not a constant noise like highway traffic -- only occasionally. I think some people are more sensitive to any noise than others and feel that a lot of the advice given in prior posts to be good.

Now about the gas cutting -- both ours and the neighbors -- I find that very distracting when sitting on the lanai but fortunately it is no more than 1-2 times per week and only lasts a couple of hours.

My wife would be ecstatic if I cut the gas noise on the lanai, but I insist it's her cooking that causes it in the first place!!

retiredguy123
09-19-2019, 07:26 AM
I don't post much but wanted to weigh in on this because we were looking at homes in Monarch Grove about 2 weeks ago. To be honest, the 1st time we went to look at the houses I didn't immediately notice the turnpike noise, most likely because we were inside the house most of the time. However, when we went back with the sole intention of gauging the turnpike noise you can definitely hear it if you're listening for it. We were looking at a house that was very close to the Swallowtail pool so I was surprised I could still hear the noise with so many rows of houses between the house we were looking at and the turnpike. It's a really nice area and you definitely don't hear the turnpike noise when you're in your house, but, if you love sitting in your lanai the noise might get old. NOTE: Our realtor said (or maybe my wife, can't remember) that as the foliage matures in the area the noise should be reduced.
I just want to point out that foliage doesn't do much to reduce noise. Noise is air pressure, and the only thing that really helps to block it is a solid, dense wall, like the kind they construct up north to reduce highway noise for houses adjacent to the highway.

C4Boston
09-19-2019, 07:52 AM
Grew up in a house one street away from railroad, in flightline of small airport and 1/4 mile from active fire station. Noise became a background comfort. Like having two rambunctious kids in the house and it suddenly goes quiet, you know there is a problem.

Nucky
09-19-2019, 07:52 AM
How much is the reduction in the houses near The Pike? Is it Chicken Feed or Substantial? Remember there is a buyer for every Home!

I would be more concerned about what is in the trucks passing thru The Villages Zone, you know, the cargo!

Buyers Remorse is a terrible thing. If a buyer is OK with the noise then who has the right to question their decision? NoBody. No bashing intended by me. The beauty of

the entire area overcomes the slight risk. I'd put my $$$Money$$$ down over there in a heartbeat!

vintageogauge
09-19-2019, 07:59 AM
I like peace and quiet so would not live in any of those areas including parts of Marsh Bend. However, there are many people that highway noise does not bother and for those, there are some excellent homes at what I would call bargain prices. I would bet that they all get sold, a lot of them already have been sold.

Bogie Shooter
09-19-2019, 07:59 AM
How much is the reduction in the houses near The Pike? Is it Chicken Feed or Substantial? Remember there is a buyer for every Home!

I would be more concerned about what is in the trucks passing thru The Villages Zone, you know, the cargo!

Buyers Remorse is a terrible thing. If a buyer is OK with the noise then who has the right to question their decision? NoBody. No bashing intended by me. The beauty of

the entire area overcomes the slight risk. I'd put my $$$Money$$$ down over there in a heartbeat!
That's it in a nutshell...………………..

justjim
09-19-2019, 08:37 AM
I don't post much but wanted to weigh in on this because we were looking at homes in Monarch Grove about 2 weeks ago. To be honest, the 1st time we went to look at the houses I didn't immediately notice the turnpike noise, most likely because we were inside the house most of the time. However, when we went back with the sole intention of gauging the turnpike noise you can definitely hear it if you're listening for it. We were looking at a house that was very close to the Swallowtail pool so I was surprised I could still hear the noise with so many rows of houses between the house we were looking at and the turnpike. It's a really nice area and you definitely don't hear the turnpike noise when you're in your house, but, if you love sitting in your lanai the noise might get old. NOTE: Our realtor said (or maybe my wife, can't remember) that as the foliage matures in the area the noise should be reduced.

Most Villagers have guests from time to time. I wouldn’t want to spend $$$$$$ for a real nice home and my guests be upset for the few days we were trying to visit. On the other hand, guest might be more inclined to leave after a couple of nights and that could suit others on this forum. Maybe joking.

Just saying it comes down to personal choice of whether to save a few dollars on the initial purchase and lose an equal amount if and when you should sell. :popcorn:

Number 10 GI
09-19-2019, 09:22 AM
Some years back I went home to the family farm for a visit. As I laid in bed the first night something felt different, took a while to figure out what it was. There was no noise. The farm is miles out of the nearest town, there are no airplane routes overhead and the farm house is quite a distance off the road which has next to no traffic. When I returned home I really noticed the noise in our neighborhood but after a short time it was like before, I didn't even hear it.

Topspinmo
09-19-2019, 09:33 AM
We moved into Carla Villas in McClure about 2 weeks ago. One of the contributing factors in picking here instead of Taylor Villas was the Turnpike is so much closer there. We did not hear the turnpike inside the house at Taylor Villa, but could hear it outside in the yard. At Carla Villa in McClure We have not heard the Turnpike outside - yet. We can still hear construction, but that will be o ver soon. Inside the house there is no noise except the frequent neighbors yards being mowed. I will be glad when the yard maintenance people all convert to electric! :)

Yard maintenance + electric? Good luck, they will remove the baffles in the muffler’s gas equipment before that happens. The blowers with the muffler baffles removed are like no mufflers at all. I afraid it get worse before better?

retiredguy123
09-19-2019, 09:38 AM
Whenever I attend an open house and they have music playing, I ask the agent to please turn it off. I think they sometimes use music to mask traffic or other noise issues with the house.

Retiring
09-19-2019, 11:09 AM
I find traffic drone noise to be very fatiguing and irritating. Hubby feels as I do. We would not ever consider living near a major roadway with constant traffic noise created from high speed vehicular traffic. There is no deal on this planet that would entice me to live near the Turnpike.

Amen.

KEVIN & JOSIE
09-19-2019, 11:35 AM
We lived the majority of our lives in Baltimore and had a home on a main thoroughfare. We were on a service road and were off the main road by maybe 200 feet. The road was a 24/7 active street. When we moved to a country atmosphere we had a hard time sleeping as it was too dark and too quiet. We really got used to the noise and the life that the city offered. We may be strange, or not the norm, but we would not have a problem being near more activity and life sounds.

New Englander
09-19-2019, 11:58 AM
I find traffic drone noise to be very fatiguing and irritating. Hubby feels as I do. We would not ever consider living near a major roadway with constant traffic noise created from high speed vehicular traffic. There is no deal on this planet that would entice me to live near the Turnpike.

:agree:

BK001
09-19-2019, 12:06 PM
My wife would be ecstatic if I cut the gas noise on the lanai, but I insist it's her cooking that causes it in the first place!!

LOL - I didn't notice -- of all the typos one could make. HaHa -- it's so funny that I'm not even going to go back to correct it.

Thanks for pointing it out though. A good laugh for my day.

VillageIdiots
09-19-2019, 12:51 PM
OP, since you didn't ask whether or not we would buy in that area or if/how traffic noise bothers us, personally, I'll just try to respond to your actual question. As others have said, similarly to living near pickleball courts or neighborhood pools, you really don't hear the noise when you are inside the homes, especially the block and stucco models. They did a nice job of placing an elevated berm between the homes and the turnpike and it does do a good job of cutting down on the noise, but it does not eliminate it. When you are outside the homes, you will hear the traffic noise. Fortunately, it's not an area where there would be a lot of horn honking or trucks "jake-braking" but it is a constant flow of vehicles wooshing buy at 70+ mph. I could see it being something that some might accept and get used to, but that doesn't mean you can't hear it.

MrExcite721
09-19-2019, 01:31 PM
Marsh Bend being west of the roadway brings me hope that the wind generally blows west to east, helping to alleviate the sound somewhat. In PA, we live west of rt. 222 4 or so blocks, and the sound level is usually dull background, but when the wind shifts, it's noticeable for a minute or two, then it blends in. I do believe we got more house for the money by it being closer to the turnpike.

thelegges
09-19-2019, 02:46 PM
We back up to Odell Circle. It’s a busy street with golf carts. From 7a to 6 p the noise from the car s never consistent but, the UPS FEDEx trucks are annoying. We are usually gone during that time. We do not have our lanai enclosed. After 6 it’s peaceful, no kissing lanai, birds chirping from the pond across the street, and a great view.

We went to MB with a lunch and sat for better than an hour listening to the drone of traffic. We noticed the sound, but was not annoying. Difference is the sound is 24/7, compared to our home.
We love our home, but want to now put in a pool. South maybe where we go. I didn’t find the home prices that much difference from homes farther away.

CFrance
09-19-2019, 04:09 PM
I don't understand why those who do not live near or plan to live there, come on here and give their opinion that they could never stand the noise. How does that answer OP's question. Seems to be just another way for some to continue there bashing of the new areas of construction. :confused::shrug:
I wasn't going to respond, but I will say that people who have lived next to noisy streets or freeways have the right to respond (and I did)--but I agree that those never having done that are not answering the OP with anything helpful.

I grew up living probably 600 yards from the Parkway East in Pittsburgh, with Union Switch & Signal a mile away down the parkway (they made railroad switches). Union Switch & Signal would make a shuddering sound a few times a night. Trucks would occasionally downshift. My bedroom was closest to the noise. I loved it. I'm loving just remembering it now. It was comforting to hear that muffled shudder if I was awake in the middle of the night. The noise was never a problem, and at night there was little traffic.

In TV we back up to St. Charles, but with a wall. The traffic noise doesn't bother me, and it's generally in the morning and at dinner time. I prefer the privacy of the wall and the fact that there is no other house behind us to not having a busy street on the other side. I love to look up and see blue sky rather than roofs.

I agree with the person who suggested sitting outside a house by the freeway to hear it all. But you may just get used to it.

That's my take.

Shimpy
09-19-2019, 04:56 PM
Having grown up on Air Force bases and listening to jet fighters take off at all hours and then living near train tracks a substantial part of my adult life it’s hard for me to objectively consider the turnpike noise level either loud or noticeable. My mental filters kick in quickly with background noise to allow me to ignore it. That’s why I asked the question in the video.

I’ve sat on the lanai at night in the summer and heard the trains roll through in Wildwood and found the sound almost comforting. Hearing a low flying plane going overhead is an intoxicating sound to my strangely formed mind. I guess I’ve a few wires crossed.
I too like to hear the trains but after living here for almost 10 years I don't even hear them unless there is a strong westerly wind. Your brain filters out these sounds that are everyday.

mills3186
09-19-2019, 07:07 PM
Our old home was near an interstate and quite frankly you really begin to tune it out in short order. The noise is mostly a continuous drone and better than living on a corner near a 4-way intersection where trucks start and stop. That said, I probably wouldn't intentionally buy right near the interstate as we enjoy sitting outside and watching TV and movies in our lanai.

Altavia
09-19-2019, 08:27 PM
Adding a white noise source like a waterfall/water feature or even a speaker playing water/surf sounds can help mask noise if sensitive.

I noticed highway traffic noise north of the Turnpike staying at the Alden villas near Brownwood during my Lifestyles visit.

Spoiler
09-20-2019, 02:02 AM
Having just purchased a home that is 8 houses down the street from the turnpike going by, let me give you my impression from the past 2 weeks here...

In the house you do not notice the sounds at all

Outside the house in the yard or sitting on the Lanai, you hear the wind from the vehicles going by more so than the engines or exhaust noises...

You get used to it and don’t really notice it. I believe some low music playing or the eventual noises as the neighborhood fills up will help drown out most of the background road noise

Again our house does not directly back up to the berm but we are on a perpendicular street from the berm and only about 8 houses away

I did come and sit in the Lanai for a half an hour before we signed the papers. It was a Monday morning at 8 am and the slight noise was not a deal breaker for us, so here we are...

Love and respect,

Spoiler

rbstebbin
09-20-2019, 03:42 AM
Enjoyed GWN flyovers the past year so much that we bought a remaining Linden Lot last month (easily spotted and stilled, easy decision-thanks GWN) before we had a chance to get here this week finally (from Texas). Wife and I are avid runners/walkers so already scouted Monarch Grove and the noise is unnoticeable to us. So excited to get here next year after we retire. Amazing that we have to wait until maybe January to design & begin building, oh well.

Taltarzac725
09-20-2019, 07:47 AM
My wife would be ecstatic if I cut the gas noise on the lanai, but I insist it's her cooking that causes it in the first place!!

That is funny. The smell probably is not all that pleasant either.

We live in Lynnhaven and have been here since June 2005 and have gotten used to the train sounds.

The turnpike though would be another matter and would not be all that attractive for a place to call home.

karostay
09-20-2019, 08:46 AM
What about the prison lights Pa system or the dust and noise and blasting from the nearby mine ?

jebartle
09-20-2019, 09:11 AM
We live in Osceola Hills but we often go to Linden, Monarch Grove, and Marsh Bend to enjoy the beautiful walking trails. When the wind is blowing toward the southwest, the noise from the turnpike is pretty bad in all three areas..

In our neighborhood, the noise from Route 44 is also bad when the wind is blowing toward the north. However, most of the time, we do not even notice the noise. Maybe the people living in Linden, MG, and MB feel the same way.


Come to Spanish Springs, no noise.:bigbow:

CWGUY
09-20-2019, 09:15 AM
:confused: I'm confused. The people that live there say the lights, PA, and mine are not issues at all. There is dust with all construction...... like say when they built St. James. Anyone remember the LARGE pile dirt where Sand Hill Golf Course is.

One other question..... why do some people hate the new area? I didn't say dislike - HATE!

coffeebean
09-20-2019, 10:38 AM
I don't understand why those who do not live near or plan to live there, come on here and give their opinion that they could never stand the noise. How does that answer OP's question. Seems to be just another way for some to continue there bashing of the new areas of construction. :confused::shrug:

This is a quote from the OP....." I have seen some great house prices along the streets that back up to the turnpike but wonder if it's worth the deal."

Every one of the posters claiming they would not want to live near constant traffic noise has answered the OP's concern. If a person would not want to live near traffic noise, the answer to the OP's concern is simply "NO, it is not a good deal." I guess you have to read between the lines to realize that. A person who finds constant drone of traffic noise to be offensive, they would not think a discount on a home is a good deal. You have to live with the consequences afterward and that discount doesn't mean a hill of beans.

I've seen it time and time again on HGTV many prospective home buyers walk away from a lovely home because of traffic noise. As they say in real estate........Location, location, location!

EnglishJW
09-20-2019, 10:47 AM
Some years back I went home to the family farm for a visit. As I laid in bed the first night something felt different, took a while to figure out what it was. There was no noise. The farm is miles out of the nearest town, there are no airplane routes overhead and the farm house is quite a distance off the road which has next to no traffic. When I returned home I really noticed the noise in our neighborhood but after a short time it was like before, I didn't even hear it.

We have had some very similar experiences.

vintageogauge
09-20-2019, 10:47 AM
What about the prison lights Pa system or the dust and noise and blasting from the nearby mine ?

You evidently don't live here. I have been here nearly 2-1/2 years and have never heard the prison PA system nor have I seen their lights, there are a lot of acres of trees between here and there, there is no dust or noise from the mining, that is down on 470. When are you bashers going to realize that this area is hot and they are selling as fast as they can build, many of the buyers are moving down here from villages north of 44, nothing you say is going to slow it down or deter people from buying.

retiredguy123
09-20-2019, 10:53 AM
This is a quote from the OP....." I have seen some great house prices along the streets that back up to the turnpike but wonder if it's worth the deal."

Every one of the posters claiming they would not want to live near constant traffic noise has answered the OP's concern. If a person would not want to live near traffic noise, the answer to the OP's concern is simply "NO, it is not a good deal." I guess you have to read between the lines to realize that. A person who finds constant drone of traffic noise to be offensive, they would not think a discount on a home is a good deal. You have to live with the consequences afterward and that discount doesn't mean a hill of beans.

I've seen it time and time again on HGTV many prospective home buyers walk away from a lovely home because of traffic noise. As they say in real estate........Location, location, location!
I agree. I cannot imagine that a person, who doesn't want to live with traffic noise all the time, would buy a house just because the price is discounted.

karostay
09-20-2019, 02:31 PM
:confused: I'm confused. The people that live there say the lights, PA, and mine are not issues at all. There is dust with all construction...... like say when they built St. James. Anyone remember the LARGE pile dirt where Sand Hill Golf Course is.

One other question..... why do some people hate the new area? I didn't say dislike - HATE!

Pesonaly I love the new area..:bigbow::bigbow:
Home Values Brownwood and North are going up
The Place to be

eyc234
09-20-2019, 03:05 PM
Would also say that we do not have feelings one way or the other about new areas. Our only negative is the inconvenience due to the distance away from everything. Our question is we keep hearing how beautiful it is, yet when we drive down it looks just like TV 3.0. Okay there are some picturesque areas when you drive into Finney but that can be said about each of the areas of TV. We just look at the neighborhoods and do not see what everyone is talking about. We hear "the walking trails" are great, come on it is just a walking trail, is that what makes it beautiful? Just questions we think about. Would like some comments from those that reside there, what makes it so much more beautiful than the rest of TV. No bashing here as we see positives an negatives of all parts of TV.

N44125
09-20-2019, 03:30 PM
This might be off subject, however, is there a place to get gas for a golf cart in Fenney and surrounding villages?

charmed59
09-20-2019, 05:13 PM
We were driving home down 75 the other day and took a detour to see the new areas. We were driving down a lovely street and looked at the Nav map and were surprised to see we were right next to the turnpike. We turned off the radio and rolled down the windows and couldn’t hear traffic at all while sitting on the street in front of the houses there.

If you are interested in the area go hear it for yourself. You may find the berm really does dampen the noise enough.

As for the prison and quarries, they are still quite a bit away. And from the street, I think the prison has a huge barrier of empty land around any building or lights, so I’m not surprised people in Fenney aren’t bothered by it. It’s just so far away it’s not an issue.

VApeople
09-20-2019, 05:47 PM
We hear "the walking trails" are great, come on it is just a walking trail, is that what makes it beautiful?

If you wondering what makes the 2.5 mile Hogeye Marsh trail absolutely beautiful, why not just walk it and get back to us with your opinion.

coffeebean
09-20-2019, 06:25 PM
Has anyone thought the drone of traffic doesn't bother folks who have a hearing deficiency? That may be a factor for some. If you can't hear the noise that is there, it would be a non issue.

VApeople
09-20-2019, 08:45 PM
This might be off subject, however, is there a place to get gas for a golf cart in Fenney and surrounding villages?

I think there is a place to buy gas at the Gray Fox/Red Fox golf course, and maybe at the Loblolly/Longleaf course as well.

thelegges
09-21-2019, 06:31 AM
Would also say that we do not have feelings one way or the other about new areas. Our only negative is the inconvenience due to the distance away from everything. Our question is we keep hearing how beautiful it is, yet when we drive down it looks just like TV 3.0. Okay there are some picturesque areas when you drive into Finney but that can be said about each of the areas of TV. We just look at the neighborhoods and do not see what everyone is talking about. We hear "the walking trails" are great, come on it is just a walking trail, is that what makes it beautiful? Just questions we think about. Would like some comments from those that reside there, what makes it so much more beautiful than the rest of TV. No bashing here as we see positives an negatives of all parts of TV.

The walking trails are just that walking, running or biking. No golf carts. We transport our bikes down just for that purpose. It’s so nice to ride a bike, or take a run, without have to be on high alert for a driver that got distracted. Even in neighborhood roads, it can be a little hectic while riding or running. It’s a relaxing mode on the trail rather than defensive tactics. We average 10 miles a day, so being able to see the trees, water, birds, and have no worries is a positive for us.

Two Bills
09-21-2019, 07:15 AM
Has anyone thought the drone of traffic doesn't bother folks who have a hearing deficiency? That may be a factor for some. If you can't hear the noise that is there, it would be a non issue.

I have a major hearing deficiency, and wear a hearing device.
Traffic and background noise is a major problem that affects me hearing speach close up, so the turnpike noise would definitely be a no no regarding a purchase in that area for me.

tophcfa
09-21-2019, 08:11 AM
The noise would be much more tolerable if one was hearing it from a championship golf course.

vintageogauge
09-21-2019, 08:37 AM
The noise would be much more tolerable if one was hearing it from a championship golf course.

It's already in the works and will be right along the Turnpike and I would be willing to bet that all of the homes they build around that course will be sold quickly.

JP
09-21-2019, 01:32 PM
Like it or not, Fenney is going to be the "center" of The Villages in about 10 years. There will be gas stations, shopping, golf courses etc. It will all be interconnected and it will be gorgeous albeit "different" than the rest of The Villages as the developer modifies his concept of what society/retirees looking for in the current and foreseeable future.

vintageogauge
09-21-2019, 02:12 PM
The turnpike is really loud over there today as it was yesterday too.

coffeebean
09-21-2019, 03:38 PM
I have a major hearing deficiency, and wear a hearing device.
Traffic and background noise is a major problem that affects me hearing speach close up, so the turnpike noise would definitely be a no no regarding a purchase in that area for me.

I thought it would be just the opposite. Thank you for that explanation. My hearing is fine at this point so I don't have personal experience such as you explained.

Martian
09-21-2019, 03:42 PM
I thought it would be just the opposite. Thank you for that explanation. My hearing is fine at this point so I don't have personal experience such as you explained.

Yup, sadly my hearing aids are also almost painful if there is a lot of background noise. They are great for my wife and I talking in our car or living room, or watching TV, but in general I have given up using them. Easier just to train my wife to yell at me in public! :)

Two Bills
09-22-2019, 02:02 AM
Yup, sadly my hearing aids are also almost painful if there is a lot of background noise. They are great for my wife and I talking in our car or living room, or watching TV, but in general I have given up using them. Easier just to train my wife to yell at me in public! :)

The worse place I have found for hearing aid wearers in TV's is without doubt, The Lighthouse Restaurant. Unreal the noise in that place!!

Bay Kid
09-22-2019, 07:03 AM
Who doesn't like the sound of big trucks and hotrods.

JimJohnson
09-22-2019, 10:50 AM
I will take the traffic noise anyway over crying kids or barking dogs. And I love kids and dogs.

DAVES
09-22-2019, 11:16 AM
Goldwingnut pondered the question on his recent video of how is the noise down in the linden,monarch grove area? Any of y'all who live close to the turnpike can give your input would be great. I have seen some great house prices along the streets that back up to the turnpike but wonder if it's worth the deal. Thanks for any input.

Like most things it is a matter of opinion. YOURS is the only one that matters. You can adjust your landscaping to reduce noise.
You can install double thick glass windows.

As a kid, our apartment was looking down on elevated trains.
You do get used to it. Aside, our home is block, quieter than a home with siding. We have trains about three miles away and they do blow their whistle at crossings. If, you pay attention you can hear them at night. For me, it does not bother me.
Others are disturbed by by the noise of their air conditioning.

As stated,"worth the deal," it is your opinion. Is a golf view, a drainage ditch view, a real lake view worth the deal?

JerryLBell
09-22-2019, 12:03 PM
My wife and I walked the trail down there this morning and as we got closer and closer to the turnpike, we told each other how glad we were not to live that close to a busy highway. The noise was too much for us. And they are building a neighborhood that is closer to the turnpike than the trail is. Maybe they'll be adding noise abatement walls. That could help a lot though the view of a big ole honkin' wall isn't anything to brag about either.

Martian
09-22-2019, 12:46 PM
That could help a lot though the view of a big ole honkin' wall isn't anything to brag about either.

Says most of us with a CYV :1rotfl:

sbarron01
09-22-2019, 12:53 PM
We lived the majority of our lives in Baltimore and had a home on a main thoroughfare. We were on a service road and were off the main road by maybe 200 feet. The road was a 24/7 active street. When we moved to a country atmosphere we had a hard time sleeping as it was too dark and too quiet. We really got used to the noise and the life that the city offered. We may be strange, or not the norm, but we would not have a problem being near more activity and life sounds.

Funny! We lived in DC for 15 yrs before retiring this April to TV. Would visit my parents on the North Fork of Long Island and not be able to sleep- darn cicadas at nite and birds chirping at 4am. Love the sound of pickleball & woman leading the aerobic swim class at the rec center across the street - both after 7:30 am. And I do love the sound of the train going up 301 as it crosses 42 (live across the street from Mulberry Grove rec center).

coffeebean
09-22-2019, 03:57 PM
........I do love the sound of the train going up 301 as it crosses 42 (live across the street from Mulberry Grove rec center).

Agree.....the sound of a train off in the far distance can be very comforting.

retiredguy123
09-22-2019, 04:31 PM
The only sound I like is the sound of silence.

kpd3062
09-22-2019, 08:14 PM
Thanks for all the great responses. Many varying points of view that I wouldn't have considred. That's the great thing about TOTV, lots of varying views,opinions and backrounds. Bye for now . Ken

dennisgavin
09-23-2019, 06:58 AM
I’ve sat on the lanai at night in the summer and heard the trains roll through in Wildwood and found the sound almost comforting. Hearing a low flying plane going overhead is an intoxicating sound to my strangely formed mind. I guess I’ve a few wires crossed.

I too like the sound of a passing train IN THE DISTANCE!!

ankeny
09-23-2019, 07:01 AM
At least the turnpike noise might make you forget about the quarry blasting, and living next to a federal prison.

billethkid
09-23-2019, 07:17 AM
At least the turnpike noise might make you forget about the quarry blasting, and living next to a federal prison.

Can you/have you heard or seen either?

Ljaprea
09-23-2019, 08:08 AM
We bought a house in Taylor villas and we aren’t too concerned about the noise as we grew up on Long Island in NY and noise and traffic were factors everywhere except the beach! We were sitting on the lanai the other night and yes, you can hear the traffic a little bit but to us, it kind of sounds like ocean waves when they hit the shore. Like so many others have said here, it really is a matter of personal opinion and what you’ve been used to in the past. For us, it was not a dealbreaker and we love being so close to a beautiful dog park and soon, a shopping center!

vintageogauge
09-23-2019, 09:01 AM
At least the turnpike noise might make you forget about the quarry blasting, and living next to a federal prison.

When are you people going to give up on the quarry and prison, no one down her really cares about them, re-sales are generating huge profits for those selling to move into another new home down here and they are selling new homes as fast as they can build them. One salesman told me that this is the only place where used homes are selling for more than equal new homes. Why, because they are ready to move into. Two years ago my neighbor bought a Woodside for $470,000, put in pavers, landscaping, and an enclosed lanai and it sold the first day for $640,000 and it's not on a golf course, that gives you an idea of what is happening down here.

SERENITY52
09-23-2019, 09:33 AM
We're in Lynnhaven also. You're right on point.

billethkid
09-23-2019, 09:38 AM
When are you people going to give up on the quarry and prison, no one down her really cares about them, re-sales are generating huge profits for those selling to move into another new home down here and they are selling new homes as fast as they can build them. One salesman told me that this is the only place where used homes are selling for more than equal new homes. Why, because they are ready to move into. Two years ago my neighbor bought a Woodside for $470,000, put in pavers, landscaping, and an enclosed lanai and it sold the first day for $640,000 and it's not on a golf course, that gives you an idea of what is happening down here.

Bears emphasis!!

varriano
09-23-2019, 10:34 AM
Having grown up on Air Force bases and listening to jet fighters take off at all hours and then living near train tracks a substantial part of my adult life it’s hard for me to objectively consider the turnpike noise level either loud or noticeable. My mental filters kick in quickly with background noise to allow me to ignore it. That’s why I asked the question in the video.

I’ve sat on the lanai at night in the summer and heard the trains roll through in Wildwood and found the sound almost comforting. Hearing a low flying plane going overhead is an intoxicating sound to my strangely formed mind. I guess I’ve a few wires crossed.

Gotta agree with Don. My dad was USAAC then USAF. Grandpa worked for Union Pacific. Never missed an Air Show growing up and we went everywhere by train.

merrymini
09-23-2019, 11:40 AM
Trees do almost nothing to mitigate road noise. You would have to have about a hundred feet of dense evergreen trees to begin to see any difference. I used to be on a planning board and these issues came up occasionally when builders wanted to build near highways.

retiredguy123
09-23-2019, 01:19 PM
Trees do almost nothing to mitigate road noise. You would have to have about a hundred feet of dense evergreen trees to begin to see any difference. I used to be on a planning board and these issues came up occasionally when builders wanted to build near highways.
Correct. Sound is transmitted by air pressure. You need a solid, dense wall to reduce noise transmission. Using trees to block noise is like expecting your screened lanai to block out the rain.

Roadrunner66
09-23-2019, 02:02 PM
Like Goldwingnut, I too also grew up on an Air Force Base and often heard loud sporadic bursts of noise on the flight line from high performance aircraft spooling up engines or using reverse thrusters on landing. I also lived for awhile on the Ohio River with train traffic passing by several times a day on the opposite side. In both cases I got used to it. The commonality of those noises? They weren't constant!! That is not the case for those new residents of Linden and Monarch Grove whose backyards face the southbound lanes of the turnpike! Line of sight, some of the Lanais look to be less than 300 feet from the traffic!! Elsewhere in Florida, where residential areas are adjacent to high speed freeways, noise abatement walls routinely provide both visual privacy and noise suppression from traffic. If there are, in fact, no plans to erect a noise abatement wall along the areas in question, that speaks volumes about the priorities of the 3rd generation Villages Developer as he promotes "America's Friendliest Hometown".

pacjag
09-23-2019, 03:26 PM
You can hear some noise from the turnpike when the wind is blowing from that direction. Otherwise the noise is unnoticeable.

Altavia
09-23-2019, 08:01 PM
If you stop and listen, suspect you can hear traffic noise most places in the Villages.

For example, homes along 466A are exposed to much higher noise levels than those next to the Turnpike. No problem finding buyers for that area.

The brain eventually cancels the background noise out as it does if you have a grandfather clock.

Michael Charles
09-23-2019, 09:56 PM
At least the turnpike noise might make you forget about the quarry blasting, and living next to a federal prison.
Well, once a month there is a blast from the quarry. What about the folks living along active fault lines resulting in real earthquakes? Hmmm, a federal prison nearby. What does that have to do with anything? I don't see how the prison is interfering with any of our lives here in the Southern Oaks of the villages. Highway noise? What about any people living near JFK airport? Near O'hare? Near LAX? Its fairly soothing compared to jet takeoff's plus I miss the evening trains going near my home in rural New England.

xcaligirl
09-24-2019, 05:54 AM
I find traffic drone noise to be very fatiguing and irritating. Hubby feels as I do. We would not ever consider living near a major roadway with constant traffic noise created from high speed vehicular traffic. There is no deal on this planet that would entice me to live near the Turnpike.
what village do you live in that doesn't have the noise? We are close to 42 and, on a quiet morning, the noise is very noticeable. We also have the train by 301 which can be heard occasionally and it doesn't bother us at all. We lived in a town in CA that had trains running through it that were VERY loud. We lived there for 12 years and really never got used to the freight trains, other trains were not as annoying.

WayneDuo
09-24-2019, 07:20 AM
I had a high school teacher who lived under one of the O'Hare runways. 3 of 4 years I was in one of his english classes. He was very goofy and hard of hearing and these conditions seem to worsen thru the 4 years I knew him.

CWGUY
09-24-2019, 09:26 AM
I had a high school teacher who lived under one of the O'Hare runways. 3 of 4 years I was in one of his english classes. He was very goofy and hard of hearing and these conditions seem to worsen thru the 4 years I knew him.

:shocked: Under a runway?

EnglishJW
09-24-2019, 10:01 AM
When are you people going to give up on the quarry and prison, no one down her really cares about them, re-sales are generating huge profits for those selling to move into another new home down here and they are selling new homes as fast as they can build them. One salesman told me that this is the only place where used homes are selling for more than equal new homes. Why, because they are ready to move into. Two years ago my neighbor bought a Woodside for $470,000, put in pavers, landscaping, and an enclosed lanai and it sold the first day for $640,000 and it's not on a golf course, that gives you an idea of what is happening down here.

I am not disagreeing with your post but I did want to point out one thing. For whatever reason, there are not too many Woodsides. It has a nice layout with the extra bedroom and kitchen arrangement (we are in a Gardenia).

vintageogauge
09-24-2019, 12:05 PM
I am not disagreeing with your post but I did want to point out one thing. For whatever reason, there are not too many Woodsides. It has a nice layout with the extra bedroom and kitchen arrangement (we are in a Gardenia).

There are lots of Woodsides south of 44, the 4 bed 3 bath home is a good seller, we have several friends living in them. North of 44 not so many but again, very popular down here.

Marathon Man
09-24-2019, 12:12 PM
I had a high school teacher who lived under one of the O'Hare runways. 3 of 4 years I was in one of his english classes. He was very goofy and hard of hearing and these conditions seem to worsen thru the 4 years I knew him.

Um. We don't have any runways in TV.

trueorange
09-24-2019, 12:13 PM
Years and years ago a real estate agent in Los Angeles likened the noise from the freeway adjacent to a property I was looking at to a babbling brook. Perhaps if we look at it that way (listen to it?) it can be a major selling point.

Velvet
09-24-2019, 12:17 PM
Years and years ago a real estate agent in Los Angeles likened the noise from the freeway adjacent to a property I was looking at to a babbling brook. Perhaps if we look at it that way (listen to it?) it can be a major selling point.

That is so funny! Reminds me of my agent looking at sun yellow walls and telling me they are not in fact yellow.

But as a young child I lived near a railway line. I was lulled to sleep each night with the trains rumbling as they’re passing. I still love that sound.

Lblueocala
09-24-2019, 12:25 PM
We just moved into Linden Isles our house is by the walking bridge and we can see the semis going by on the turnpike. Being retired Air Force and living in base housing the whole career the noice of the turnpike is nothing to us compared to all types of military aircraft taking off, especially fighters on alert and scrambling on take off.

Chi-Town
09-24-2019, 03:01 PM
I had a high school teacher who lived under one of the O'Hare runways. 3 of 4 years I was in one of his english classes. He was very goofy and hard of hearing and these conditions seem to worsen thru the 4 years I knew him.Goofy and homeless.

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Bobever
09-24-2019, 04:52 PM
Thought that if a residential area is close to the turnpike or main highway that those sound barrier walls were to be put up. Not sure just mentioning an option.

Bay Kid
09-25-2019, 07:05 AM
Zoom, zoom, zoom

Martian
09-25-2019, 08:48 AM
I wonder how many of the posters that are saying what a problem the "noise" is, actually live or lived down here south of the border (44).

OhioBuckeye
09-25-2019, 09:34 AM
Goldwingnut pondered the question on his recent video of how is the noise down in the linden,monarch grove area? Any of y'all who live close to the turnpike can give your input would be great. I have seen some great house prices along the streets that back up to the turnpike but wonder if it's worth the deal. Thanks for any input.

Well, I would say like you, if you think the noise would be unbearable don’t buy. But when we lived there we were new & fascinated with everything thing going on & things to do, & a person looking to live there this noise will probably be the furthest thing from there mind & the cheaper price will convince them to buy. Personally after living there, this road noise wouldn’t bother us at all.

karostay
09-25-2019, 11:22 AM
The only sound I like is the sound of silence.In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone :a040:

Goldwingnut
09-25-2019, 11:26 AM
Like Goldwingnut, I too also grew up on an Air Force Base and often heard loud sporadic bursts of noise on the flight line from high performance aircraft spooling up engines or using reverse thrusters on landing. I also lived for awhile on the Ohio River with train traffic passing by several times a day on the opposite side. In both cases I got used to it. The commonality of those noises? They weren't constant!! That is not the case for those new residents of Linden and Monarch Grove whose backyards face the southbound lanes of the turnpike! Line of sight, some of the Lanais look to be less than 300 feet from the traffic!! Elsewhere in Florida, where residential areas are adjacent to high speed freeways, noise abatement walls routinely provide both visual privacy and noise suppression from traffic. If there are, in fact, no plans to erect a noise abatement wall along the areas in question, that speaks volumes about the priorities of the 3rd generation Villages Developer as he promotes "America's Friendliest Hometown".

It is the state, FDOT specifically, that determines the necessity and installs the sound abatement walls alone the roadways, not the developer.

I would say that the berms that have been built along the turnpike side Linden and Monarch Grove by the developer would in fact exactly contradict your assessment of the current generation of the individuals in charge of developing The Villages. These are people with a good business head and long-term vision. Having an undesirable area(s) of the community anywhere where they would have control of the factors involved would be very shortsighted on their part. My many years of digging into the history of and studying the development of The Villages shows quite the opposite tactic being employed.

Things don't always work in their favor, the Beaumont and Trailwinds developments for example. This land was in their sights for development a few years ago but was shot down by the city of Wildwood partially on the grounds of the proposed development didn't meet the city's requirements for "trees and sidewalks" according to Mayor Wolfe. This was of course shortsighted on Wildwood's part and they now see The Villages as their new piggybank. Did you see how few trees are left in the Beaumont development, about a dozen out of the original hundreds.

The point of my original question in the video was directed at those who have purchased in the area and who they find the noise level. We all have thresholds for what we are willing to live with, some more than others. There would be a mix of thresholds in this new area and I am interested in how and if they have adapted to any perceived noise level, and if they are or have become a factor in living in this new community.

Bogie Shooter
09-25-2019, 12:59 PM
Well, I would say like you, if you think the noise would be unbearable don’t buy. But when we lived there we were new & fascinated with everything thing going on & things to do, & a person looking to live there this noise will probably be the furthest thing from there mind & the cheaper price will convince them to buy. Personally after living there, this road noise wouldn’t bother us at all.

You lived there and moved?

Velvet
09-25-2019, 01:44 PM
But...”having an undesirable area(s) in the community anywhere” what about the planned trailer parks near by? Or, we don’t have any say.

Bogie Shooter
09-25-2019, 03:55 PM
But...”having an undesirable area(s) in the community anywhere” what about the planned trailer parks near by? Or, we don’t have any say.

If you lived in Fruitland Park you could speak to you elected officials, otherwise, you don’t have any say. It’s called democracy.

Goldwingnut
09-25-2019, 04:01 PM
But...”having an undesirable area(s) in the community anywhere” what about the planned trailer parks near by? Or, we don’t have any say.

Simple answer, if you don't own the property you have no control over it, regardless of what your realtor told you when you bought the house.

Of course you've taken my words out of context, the full statement is "Having an undesirable area(s) of the community anywhere where they would have control of the factors involved would be very shortsighted on their part.". Bottom line is that they (The Villages) don't own or have any control over the property in question. If you want a say in what happens to this property, buy it. And just because a family member of a prominent member of the district management team, Mr. Rohan in this case, is involved in a land development project, that has ZERO indication that The Villages, the developer, or anyone else is involved. That's like saying your brother was arrested for dealing drugs therefore you are a drug dealing, a criminal, and a member of a drug cartel.

Context is important, it always has been.

And, no you don't really have a say.

Velvet
09-25-2019, 06:28 PM
That’s what I thought. Thanks for explaining. Fan, as always, Velvet.

Martian
09-25-2019, 07:45 PM
Having been, and now retired, a State Trooper, I've most of the time looked at things with "what if this happens"?

With the homes that back up to, or is in nearby proximity to the turnpike, what if a chemical laden 18 wheeler wrecked on the turnpike and the wind is blowing from the direction of the wreck?

Something else to consider besides just the noise......

Following that logic here is no place where a large number of people congregate that is safe. Hazardous material is transported daily everywhere. Even the air force flying over head occasionally oops and drop a bomb or worse (Nuke dropped in NC a while back).

If you want to think "what if", include the probability of it happening... I expect I will get hit by lightning first.

Braddock
09-26-2019, 07:27 AM
I was looking at a house on Knudson Run. Not being in town I have no way to personally gauge the tollway noise. Concern also south of the street as to what might go in.
Noise carries. I could hear pickle ball play from Colony at Bonifay.

Snave
09-26-2019, 08:30 AM
The Villages or its contractor have been burning brush and other materials along the turnpike and other areas for some time. My wife has suffered considerably with inner ear problems brought by an allergic reaction to the burning. Her doctor and her specialist both indicate that they have received a cascade of problems from their patients with similar problems. We contacted the contractor who said it could not possibly be what they are doing as we live too far away (northern part of The Villages) to be affected. However, when they stopped for the approaching hurricane Dorian my wife had no problems. One they started again the problems returned.

geobar
09-29-2019, 07:40 AM
Ask your Salesperson why the noise and as why their aren't any walls along the Turnpike to Cut Down (not stop) on the noise.

Remember that price isn't everything.

The Village "Morse Money Moguls" are going to build about 40,000 more homes so I think you will find one that is quieter.

Oh. That's in Sumter County where they will raise the Real Estate Taxes 24%. You should be able to find a home of your liking there.

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-29-2019, 07:46 AM
But...”having an undesirable area(s) in the community anywhere” what about the planned trailer parks near by? Or, we don’t have any say.

Just remember - the Villages started out as a trailer park, and parts of it are still as they were in the 70's when The Villages was first built, with some of the original single-wide trailers brought in during the 1970's still owned and occupied by Villages residents. It is still The Villages, and there are still hundreds of Villagers living there. All villagers are still welcome to play on their executive golf courses and make use of the other amenities there, just as we are welcome to use the amenities in your neighborhood.

Love2Swim
09-29-2019, 07:55 AM
Everyone is different as far as what noise level they can or will tolerate. I walked in the new nature preserve up by Fenney and found the roadway noise awful. I personally couldn't see living near the Turnpike and having it as constant background noise. It would be worth it to me to pay extra money for "quiet". Other people, perhaps those with hearing problems, or those who are going to enclose their lanai's and not open the windows, or those who lived for years on a busy city street, wouldn't find it objectionable. No judgement - just do what's best for you.

Velvet
09-29-2019, 09:07 AM
Just remember - the Villages started out as a trailer park, and parts of it are still as they were in the 70's when The Villages was first built, with some of the original single-wide trailers brought in during the 1970's still owned and occupied by Villages residents. It is still The Villages, and there are still hundreds of Villagers living there. All villagers are still welcome to play on their executive golf courses and make use of the other amenities there, just as we are welcome to use the amenities in your neighborhood.

Yes, I know about the historic section, both Mr Shwartz and my parents had a home there. That’s where everything started and, in my opinion, still one of the most beautiful places in TV. If it was not for Barnes and Noble it would have been my first choice in TV.

billethkid
09-29-2019, 09:23 AM
"Trailer Park" seems to carry a stigma, real or otherwise.
Maybe that was/is the intent.
Mobile home and RV park are more descriptive (of what is actually in place).
Trailer park? I think not.

Bogie Shooter
09-29-2019, 09:46 AM
"Trailer Park" seems to carry a stigma, real or otherwise.
Maybe that was/is the intent.
Mobile home and RV park are more descriptive (of what is actually in place).
Trailer park? I think not.

Always the voice of wisdom.

vintageogauge
09-29-2019, 10:25 AM
Everyone is different as far as what noise level they can or will tolerate. I walked in the new nature preserve up by Fenney and found the roadway noise awful. I personally couldn't see living near the Turnpike and having it as constant background noise. It would be worth it to me to pay extra money for "quiet". Other people, perhaps those with hearing problems, or those who are going to enclose their lanai's and not open the windows, or those who lived for years on a busy city street, wouldn't find it objectionable. No judgement - just do what's best for you.

The nature trail in Fenney is not near the turnpike and you surely cannot hear it in Fenney. You must have been in Marsh Bend which is in Southern Oaks.

vintageogauge
09-29-2019, 10:31 AM
Ask your Salesperson why the noise and as why their aren't any walls along the Turnpike to Cut Down (not stop) on the noise.

Remember that price isn't everything.

The Village "Morse Money Moguls" are going to build about 40,000 more homes so I think you will find one that is quieter.

Oh. That's in Sumter County where they will raise the Real Estate Taxes 24%. You should be able to find a home of your liking there.

Even after the increase the tax rate in Sumter is lower than in Lake County and in addition Wildwood has announced they are lowering their tax rate. Once they get the new villages along the turnpike built and sold they will start others that are further away from the pike, they are already digging along 501.

VApeople
09-29-2019, 11:43 AM
I was looking at a house on Knudson Run. Not being in town I have no way to personally gauge the tollway noise.

My wife and I like to walk in that area to see what is happening. The part of Knudson Run east of Corbin Trail can be pretty loud.

Concern also south of the street as to what might go in.


The land south of Monarch Grove looks beautiful. My guess is they will move a lot of dirt in that area to create nice lakes like they have in Linden and McClure.

Michael Charles
09-29-2019, 01:56 PM
Well this thread is about the turnpike noise. What does the trailer park, the original villages or anything have to do with this discussion about the noise from the turnpike? Just sayin.

600th Photo Sq
09-29-2019, 05:45 PM
Ask your Salesperson why the noise and as why their aren't any walls along the Turnpike to Cut Down (not stop) on the noise.

Remember that price isn't everything.

The Village "Morse Money Moguls" are going to build about 40,000 more homes so I think you will find one that is quieter.

Oh. That's in Sumter County where they will raise the Real Estate Taxes 24%. You should be able to find a home of your liking there.

The salesperson is an employee to sell, kept in the dark and would not be able to answer " Awkward " questions.

So asking the obvious is a complete waste of time.