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Trayderjoe
09-25-2019, 10:29 PM
I am sure that I am not the first to post about this, but just to be sure, here is what happened recently when we canceled our DirectTV service.

Called DirectTV on July 2nd and spoke to a representative to tell them that I was canceling my service (note: my contract had expired prior to this cancellation). I was told to bring my equipment to either the UPS store or to FedEx and it would be shipped back to DirectTV at no cost to me.

Brought my equipment to UPS store the same day. They were very helpful and the woman at the counter advised me to make sure to keep my receipt from them (I would have done this anyway).

I received an email from DirectTV on July 4 acknowledging receipt of my equipment. A subsequent email on July 6th gave me directions on how to return the equipment, and an email on July 28th showed that I had a zero balance.

DirectTV sent me an email on August 29th with a bill for $145.00. I called DirectTV and was informed that the bill for was non-returned equipment. I pointed out that I had an email from DirectTV acknowledging receipt of the equipment and a subsequent zero balance bill. After being assured by the first rep that the charge would be "frozen" until they could verify that the equipment was received, I asked to speak to someone else (my mistake, I did not specifically request to speak to a supervisor) since I had the documentation. The second person informed me that she could see the "freeze" on my account and it would get resolved in 3-5 business days.

Two weeks later, I check the account and the $145 is still showing and due within 2 days. I called back and spoke to a different rep, going through the whole process again. He played the game of putting me on hold while "his team was working to get this cleared up for me", then checking back in 10 minutes, and being surprised that I was still on hold, he told me it would just be a couple more minutes. I decided to play this out, so over a 90 minute period, he would check back about every 10 minutes to let me know "his team was close to fixing the issue" for me. I was again assured that everything would be resolved in 3-5 business days and that the account would be cleared (and yes, I failed once again to ask for a supervisor, so I have some culpability here). I informed the rep that if this was not resolved, I would report DirectTV to the Florida Consumer Affairs division as well as Seniors Against Crime.

One week later, the account was showing that it was overdue. I decided since I was remiss in not specifically requesting to speak to a supervisor, I would try one last time before making calls to report this issue. I called DirectTV and the first person I spoke to gave me her name and where she was located. I requested that I speak to her supervisor and she asked for background so she could let her supervisor know. I gave her an executive summary (I bet some of you wish I did that here....) and she put me on hold for a minute, came back on the line and she gave me her supervisor's name and told me she was transferring me over. I provided the summary to the supervisor, who apologized and checked the system, indicating that the equipment was located and that it was just noted in the system the day before. She informed me that that the charges would be removed in 5-7 business days. I thanked her and informed her that if the charges were not removed, she should not take my next comment as a threat, but that I would file a report with the appropriate agencies. She acknowledged my skepticism and assured me that all would be good. She was true to her word, and the charges have been removed.

So, for lessons learned:

1) Be sure to keep all receipts when returning equipment. Note that even if the scan comes back as "NOT VALIDATED OTHER" (or something similar), be sure to write the serial number on the receipt for the equipment to cover your bases (I did do this btw).

2) Keep all emails/correspondence until you are SURE that your account is properly closed and that you don't owe anything.

3) Make sure to ask any person with whom you speak to repeat and spell their name to you. Also ask for their location or operator ID and document the call appropriately.

3) If there is a dispute situation, when you call in, ask to speak to a supervisor since the first level doesn't seem to have the ability to resolve the issue. BE POLITE! I was very angry about the situation, but you are trying to get help and not being polite can work to your detriment. Figure out which agencies you would contact to report them if they are at fault, and let them know that you are just letting them know that you will report them to xxxx agency should the conflict not be appropriately resolved.

Hopefully this is an aberration and not the norm, but I suspect that I wasn't the first, nor will I be the last to have this experience.

Two Bills
09-26-2019, 03:25 AM
To be perfectly honest, I would have ceased all contact after the first phone call.
You had proof of completion. You had notified them of their error.
Ball in their court!

Viperguy
09-26-2019, 05:46 AM
Similar issue a couple years ago. Right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. Companies are split and departments are outsourced. The way things are today. Sad

Martian
09-26-2019, 05:58 AM
Best alternative is to never start doing business with them. I have a rule, I never do business with any company that advertises with blatantly misleading ads. We. constantly get spam mail from them advertising $19/mth. Sure, you can pay them for $19/mth. If you want to watch anything it is quite a bit more.

Bjeanj
09-26-2019, 06:37 AM
I’m sure sorry you went through all that.

Marathon Man
09-26-2019, 07:34 AM
Thank you for sharing this. We are going to cancel Direct TV soon and I will stay on alert.

This will be the second time we have cancelled. The first was when we moved to Florida. It went smoothly with no issues. In fact, they told us to re-cycle the equipment. I guess maybe is was older and they did not want it back.

Nucky
09-26-2019, 09:18 AM
Good Job Trayderjoe, you may have saved many people much heartache with your valuable post.

My read on the treatment you got has everything to do with DirecTV being purchased by AT&T. Before that, I was a long-time Direct customer and never remember any Hocus Pocus that many people have experienced with billing and equipment return issues. They (Direct) are a disgrace IMHO. They were Fantastic when they were a stand-alone company. I went thru similar problems when we ended our relationship with Direct.

B-flat
09-26-2019, 09:25 AM
Thank you Trayderjoe! We have Direct TV that wasn’t the plan but since Century Link dropped TV and we wanted Century Link internet we took Direct TV. WE have another year on our agreement, but your post is helpful.

P.S. Along similar lines a year ago I wanted an iPhONe XR( that’s 10 R). Verizon had a buy one get one promo, I didn’t want it since my wife was happy with her iPhone 8 Plus. the sales rep went on to tell me it was a great deal and yes I knew it was. I did asked him to run the numbers because the key to making the purchase was keeping our bill at the $190 range. The SOB said it would be around $190 and sure enough it was $190, then a month later it shot up to $219. By then it was too late to really take any action without taking another loss. Caveat Emptor, “let they buyer beware.”

CFrance
09-26-2019, 09:36 AM
DirecTV hasn't been the same wonderful company since becoming part of AT&T a few years back. We had a row with them over non-payment of several months' service even though we had had no contract and had canceled the service. There aren't enough words allowed in a TOTV post to explain what transpired. But we hung on, and the $495 amount they wanted to (erroneously) charge us was finally erased. The main problem was they claimed we signed a contract when AT&T took it over. But we hadn't, and they could never come up with a copy of the contract they claimed we signed. We did have to go quite a way up the chain of command, including sending a notarized letter. It was a mess and took forever.

We had been with DirecTV since they started NFL Ticket, and it was a wonderful service with no administrative hiccups. A shame AT&T had to come along with their incompetent record keeping.

To the poster that said "Ball in their court," I see a problem with that. I'm afraid they would turn you over to a collection agency, and then your credit rating would be affected.

Dmbluk
09-26-2019, 10:07 AM
Now the best is yet to come. Now you will start getting calls every other day wanting to know. Why did you discontinue service and what can we do to get you back? When I told them they got too expensive for me they looked at my account and said Wow I understand. What if I can do it a lot cheaper? I told them they should have thought of that a long time ago. But thanks for the call. Click!!!

Velvet
09-26-2019, 11:07 AM
Really appreciate the information about Direct TV. Hubby was considering their service for both of our locations, but it sounds like they are a nightmare to deal with!

If they call us for promotions I will ask them, have you read your reviews on TOTV?

Two Bills
09-26-2019, 11:21 AM
DirecTV hasn't been the same wonderful company since becoming part of AT&T a few years back. We had a row with them over non-payment of several months' service even though we had had no contract and had canceled the service. There aren't enough words allowed in a TOTV post to explain what transpired. But we hung on, and the $495 amount they wanted to (erroneously) charge us was finally erased. The main problem was they claimed we signed a contract when AT&T took it over. But we hadn't, and they could never come up with a copy of the contract they claimed we signed. We did have to go quite a way up the chain of command, including sending a notarized letter. It was a mess and took forever.

We had been with DirecTV since they started NFL Ticket, and it was a wonderful service with no administrative hiccups. A shame AT&T had to come along with their incompetent record keeping.

To the poster that said "Ball in their court," I see a problem with that. I'm afraid they would turn you over to a collection agency, and then your credit rating would be affected.

If you are retired, why worry about credit rating?
Our credit rating ( wife and I) must be pretty poor, as we have not borrowed for over 40 years.
The OP has done all he needs to do, and has proof. Ball in their court!

Velvet
09-26-2019, 01:39 PM
You never know when you may need credit rating. If you have to borrow for a medical emergency etc. always good to be prepared, in my opinion.

CFrance
09-26-2019, 01:47 PM
If you are retired, why worry about credit rating?
Our credit rating ( wife and I) must be pretty poor, as we have not borrowed for over 40 years.
The OP has done all he needs to do, and has proof. Ball in their court!
I would not ever want to do anything to jeopardize my credit score. Maybe some day I'll need a loan for some unforeseen reason, who knows.

And AT&T is not going to stretch itself out to catch that ball that's "in their court," in my opinion. They have too many layers. Not to mention lawyers.

You're right about what they should do, but unfortunately the onus is on the customer to protect himself.

Nucky
09-26-2019, 02:36 PM
Now the best is yet to come. Now you will start getting calls every other day wanting to know. Why did you discontinue service and what can we do to get you back? When I told them they got too expensive for me they looked at my account and said Wow I understand. What if I can do it a lot cheaper? I told them they should have thought of that a long time ago. But thanks for the call. Click!!!

You handled that in a very reasonable, charitable manner. I'm trying to get to that level of calmness and factuality that you used.

Unfortunately for the Poor Agent who was assigned the Second call to us the week after we finally got in the clear from DirecTV I gave him the option of hanging up and never calling again or option #2 getting the all-out Shock & Awe Show. They went for Option #2 and we never head from then again. There was a little terrible language relayed to the young man on the line. I let it all out. Not proud of it and haven't done anything like that since. That's not why we moved here. I moved here to chill out. I'm going to do that anymore. :pray: They are not worth it.

Don't mess with my Credit Score or what I just said is off and the battle is engaged!!! I don't need the Score anymore but I wanna go out on Top! :clap2::clap2:

Velvet
09-26-2019, 04:16 PM
Yeah! Nucky!

BobnBev
09-26-2019, 05:12 PM
Dumped both AT&T and DirecTV, no problem. Went with Dish and T-Mobile-----Life is good.:coolsmiley::popcorn:

CWGUY
09-26-2019, 08:36 PM
Dumped both AT&T and DirecTV, no problem. Went with Dish and T-Mobile-----Life is good.:coolsmiley::popcorn:

:ohdear: Fox Stations, Networks Go Dark On Dish In Carriage Dispute – Deadline (https://deadline.com/2019/09/fox-stations-networks-go-dark-on-dish-in-carriage-dispute-1202745722/)

"Fox-owned TV stations in 17 markets as well as FS1, FS2, Big Ten Network, Fox Soccer Plus and Fox Deportes have gone dark on Dish Network in the latest carriage dispute."
Don't know if we are in one of these markets???

santiagobob
09-26-2019, 09:56 PM
I had a similar issue when I canceled my service with Century Link. They kept telling me that in order to ship their equipment back to them I needed a shipping label from them. I waited weeks and never received the label
Each time I called the rep said they were sorry but that they would send the required label that day. Guess what, it took 3 months to finally get the label and each month they billed me for the unreturned equipment. I finally got a small bill for the partial month of service
that was all I owed and it is now closed.

Buffalo Jim
09-26-2019, 11:57 PM
Some hope for an improvement at DirecTV . I have read a number of articles recently that major shareholders of ATT are putting pressure on Executive Management to divest it . Also DTV has a stated a objective to move away from the dishes and associated equipment and deliver their services via streaming by 2025 .

Buffalo Jim
09-27-2019, 12:11 AM
For whatever it may be worth the Casualty Insurance Companies are using Credit Scoring as one measure of risk and factor it into determine the rates we are quoted for Auto , Home , Umbrella Liability and other similar types of insurance . They have their own industry FICO Scale . So ignoring an item such as an equipment dispute might cause an issue down the road that you would not expect .

JGVillages
09-27-2019, 11:33 AM
To be perfectly honest, I would have ceased all contact after the first phone call.
You had proof of completion. You had notified them of their error.
Ball in their court!

Non necessarily. If they put the $145 charge on your credit card then imagine the hoops you would have to jump through to get that reversed!

Trayderjoe
09-27-2019, 12:00 PM
Good comments all. So a little more information, but first, I agree with CFFrance that you need to be proactive and protect your credit history. I vigorously defend my credit score as I want to be sure that should the unexpected happen and I need a loan, I can get it. It took me time to get my credit rating and I won't give it up lightly.

We used to have AT&T U-Verse prior to moving to the Villages and in our opinion, they had the best customer service. For example, our modem died and I called at 5 PM to report the issue. I did not get a run around, they did an overnight FEDEX and we had the new modem the next day. When we called about ending our service, we first inquired as to whether they provided service in the Villages, but were informed they did not. They canceled our service and there were no issues or follow-up come back to us communications. Overall a very professional customer service experience.

Now to DirectTV. Our contract had ended and we had a piece of equipment that was not functioning properly. We had a service call and the tech identified that the equipment was not being installed anymore but he called around looking for a replacement. He informed me that a replacement could not be found and that he would have to install a newer device. When I was told that I would need to sign a new contract to get the device, I told him to pull it and not replace it (no big deal to drop one of the units for us). A couple of months later, a similar second device started to fail. When the service tech showed up, I informed him that if it couldn't be repaired/replaced without me signing a contract, then forget it. First, let me state that the service tech was very friendly and was definitely customer oriented. He informed me that he was not told that a new contract would be needed, and proceeded to install the new device and tried to register it. He was on the phone talking to multiple people over 45 minutes trying to get the device to register. The last person he spoke to (you can guess what happens next) informed him that he would need to have me sign a new contract before they would initial the device. He put me on the phone with the DirectTV person who told me that I would need to sign the contract AT FULL FREIGHT. I asked him how DirectTV planned to provide the service to me for which I was already paying, given that THEIR equipment was failing. When he stood firm on the contract, I informed him that the service tech had done a great job, but that I was having the new device removed and would be cancelling my service with DirectTV.

After securing new service, I called DirectTV to cancel. They asked what they could do to keep me as a customer, then offered a reduced rate. I informed the rep that there was nothing they could offer me given their position that I had to sign a new contract to get working equipment, and on top of that, at the full service rate.

Given the poor handling of the returned equipment that I experienced, I would never go back to them, nor would I recommend them at this time. Granted, the last supervisor I spoke to was true to her word (my balance was cleared and I show no balance due, which included the late charge they assessed for the nonpayment), but I am going to periodically log in to the old account to make sure no funny business is going on, at least until DirectTV removes the old account from their system.

Caveat emptor!