The Visit

[twoplanekid]

Out practicing for the big event on Thursday.

Dropbox - IMG_3508.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pg6mvt7nylg9cc2/IMG_3508.JPG?dl=0)

About the motorcade - > The Fascinating Anatomy of the Presidential Motorcade - The Drive (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4518/the-fascinating-anatomy-of-the-presidential-motorcade)

I must remember to not fly my Cub this Thursday:icon_wink:

[bmarlo767]

I was very fortunate to have been in charge of the part of the motorcade behind the secret service portion many times, and several times in the Police car that is always in the front during events with President H.W. Bush.

[collie1228]

We were on the second hole at Tierra Del Sol on Tuesday when two Marine One helicopters and four or five Osprey aircraft flew right over us. Very loud and impressive. Looks like there will be troops supporting this visit, as well as Secret Service.

[Taltarzac725]

We were on the second hole at Tierra Del Sol on Tuesday when two Marine One helicopters and four or five Osprey aircraft flew right over us. Very loud and impressive. Looks like there will be troops supporting this visit, as well as Secret Service.

I saw those on my way to see Peanut Butter Falcon at the Rialto on Tuesday. They were flying around in some kind of pattern.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Did all of the school busses and large tractor trailer around Spanish Springs Town Square have anything to do with this?

[John_W]

Fox Channel 35 on Good-day Orlando had a crew at Spanish Springs. I don't think they really researched what was happening before going on the air. There was about 50 people in front of the Rialto, and they said people are lining up to see the President. I think it was a crowd to go to the movies. Why would the Sharon crowd be over blocking the theater entrance at 9:00 AM when he doesn't speak until 1:30? They didn't even show the Sharon.

They did show in front of Toojays about 5 protestors holding signs, said they were from the Villages Democratic Club. They said there will be a jumbo screen in the square and you can see the speech outside if you don't have an invite.

[dewilson58]

Fox Channel 35 on Good-day Orlando had a crew at Spanish Springs. I don't think they really researched what was happening before going on the air. There was about 50 people in front of the Rialto, and they said people are lining up to see the President. I think it was a crowd to go to the movies. Why would the Sharon crowd be over blocking the theater entrance at 9:00 AM when he doesn't speak until 1:30? They didn't even show the Sharon.

They did show in front of Toojays about 5 protestors holding signs, said they were from the Villages Democratic Club. They said there will be a jumbo screen in the square and you can see the speech outside if you don't have an invite.




That's funny.

[EdFNJ]

Are they (security) keeping the crowds in the square thin? I'm watching the webcam of the square and now (at 12:38PM) it looks like there are bigger crowds during Happy Hour when Johnny Wild is playing. I expected wall to wall people.

[JSR22]

Minimal turnout!

[billethkid]

When it is an invite only in a place like The Sharon why would anybody waste their time to crowd around and try to get a glimpse of Trump.

Like all the major performers he will arrive and depart away from the possible masses.

There is no amassing of crowds as there will be nothing/nobody to see.

My guess would be if Trump were to have one of his rally time appearances he, like Bush did, would attract huge crowds. There would be a real reason to attend and participate. I also think the invite only venue was a poor choice for The Villages. And I am not sure whose preference that reflects.....Trumps or....?....

Anyway the lucky few will represent the wishes of the rest of us.

[Chi-Town]

Trump supporter friend of mine was disappointed at the small attendance and headed over to watch the helicopters.

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[graciegirl]

Trump supporter friend of mine was disappointed at the small attendance and headed over to watch the helicopters.

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That's where there were a lot of folks.

[Velvet]

Glad we have web cams, I can watch from far away. Looked at the news channels and so far there is no reporting that I can find.

[anothersteve]

Minimal turnout!
Yeah there were a few people there.
Trump in The Villages - YouTube (https://youtu.be/CbmKJP5WdtY)

Steve

[EdFNJ]

When it is an invite only in a place like The Sharon why would anybody waste their time to crowd around and try to get a glimpse of Trump.

Like all the major performers he will arrive and depart away from the possible masses.

There is no amassing of crowds as there will be nothing/nobody to see.

My guess would be if Trump were to have one of his rally time appearances he, like Bush did, would attract huge crowds. There would be a real reason to attend and participate. I also think the invite only venue was a poor choice for The Villages. And I am not sure whose preference that reflects.....Trumps or....?....

Anyway the lucky few will represent the wishes of the rest of us.


I would have to assume The White House made the decision for it to be invite only as it was not supposed to be a campaign appearance although it did go off the rails a little bit. I doubt they asked The Villages what they preferred.

As for crowds, comparing the arrival of "The Drifters" or even Jay Leno :) to ANY President of the United States is a bit off. My feeling about the orange guy aside I wouldn't mind watching all the cool stuff (protesters, weirdos, sharpshooters, Secret Service, motorcades, helicopters etc) that surrounds any presidential visit no matter who it was which is what surprised me that it wasn't as crazy as I expected. From what I understand they did have big screens outside The Sharon for the 10's of thousands to view the speech.

[Mleeja]

Yeah there were a few people there.
Trump in The Villages - YouTube (https://youtu.be/CbmKJP5WdtY)

Steve

So much for the small turnout. Looks pretty good from this video.

[anothersteve]

So much for the small turnout. Looks pretty good from this video.

And I didn't even get crowd down Main St.
Steve

[EdFNJ]

So much for the small turnout. Looks pretty good from this video. It did but when the camera swung around for 1/2 second at 1:14 into the video it wasn't like I would have expected.

[NotGolfer]

There were warnings about closed roads, traffic etc. so "IF" (and I don't know for sure) there were "smaller" crowds and all that goes with them, maybe that was why. I personally stay away from such events as I don't care for crowds. That said...I saw what it looked like inside The Sharon and it looked pretty crowded in there to me.

[gatherer47]

At 3:00PM I headed on Morse Blvd to my appt at Santa Barbara office of United Healthcare-They would not let you through the gate as you had to make a u-turn before the gate and back the other way on Morse.I can see not allowing you to go right to Spanish Springs but why not left at the round about and on to El Camino away from Spanish Springs-at the least at Rio Grande there should have been a sign saying local traffic only-no entrance to Spanish Springs

[Mleeja]

The dog and I were out cruising the area after the speech. Our goal was to get over to the Polo Fields. Nope! Made it to the Savannah Center parking lot. Buena Vista and El Camino (including the MMPs) we’re closed until the motorcade passed. There were a few people driving up in carts that had been at Spanish Springs. They must have came the “back way”. A couple was trying to get to Glenview for golf. I bet they missed their tee time.

Later, we heard helicopters and saw shadows cross our solar tube. The outbound helicopters flew right over the house.

[TNGary]

Out practicing for the big event on Thursday.

Dropbox - IMG_3508.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pg6mvt7nylg9cc2/IMG_3508.JPG?dl=0)

About the motorcade - > The Fascinating Anatomy of the Presidential Motorcade - The Drive (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4518/the-fascinating-anatomy-of-the-presidential-motorcade)

I must remember to not fly my Cub this Thursday:icon_wink:

OP: Thanks for posting, great post, as always!!!

[njbchbum]

At 3:00PM I headed on Morse Blvd to my appt at Santa Barbara office of United Healthcare-They would not let you through the gate as you had to make a u-turn before the gate and back the other way on Morse.I can see not allowing you to go right to Spanish Springs but why not left at the round about and on to El Camino away from Spanish Springs-at the least at Rio Grande there should have been a sign saying local traffic only-no entrance to Spanish Springs

Most likely there was no traffic allowed on El Camino as it was for the dedicated use of the motorcade before and during the Presidential visit. Probably opened again after the Marine 1 lift off.

[twoplanekid]

I had no idea that they would be using the V-22 Osprey for presidential transportation.

Picture taken of one of three departing from the east grass parking lot at the polo field after the event at Spanish Springs. It’s a good shot of the ball field fence. :shocked:
Dropbox - IMG_3542.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bqkhukshruri5p/IMG_3542.JPG?dl=0)

more information on the Osprey
Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)

[Kenswing]

I had no idea that they would be using the V-22 Osprey for presidential transportation.

Picture taken of one of three departing from the east grass parking lot at the polo field after the event at Spanish Springs. It’s a good shot of the ball field fence. :shocked:
Dropbox - IMG_3542.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bqkhukshruri5p/IMG_3542.JPG?dl=0)

more information on the Osprey
Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)Yep. Been part of HMX-1 for awhile now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LE-qzy7TBI

[Aloha1]

So who were the local cops hauling off and why?

[billethkid]

The speech was presented live on Fox 35.
I just think many folks like me, just aren't going to go out where the odds of seeing him approach zero.

[anothersteve]

So who were the local cops hauling off and why?

There were a few protesters that were blowing whistles during the whole speech, in peoples ears, very loud and annoying. She was one of two that I saw being escorted, not hauled, away from the crowd.
Steve

[Ooper]

It was also streamed live on YouTube. It was great to watch it from the comfort of your living room with no waiting for traffic or having to go through security.

[Aloha1]

There were a few protesters that were blowing whistles during the whole speech, in peoples ears, very loud and annoying. She was one of two that I saw being escorted, not hauled, away from the crowd.
Steve

Whatever happened to civility?

[billethkid]

Whatever happened to civility?

98% of us still are. We just don't get as much press/discussion!!

[bagboy]

When it is an invite only in a place like The Sharon why would anybody waste their time to crowd around and try to get a glimpse of Trump.

Like all the major performers he will arrive and depart away from the possible masses.

There is no amassing of crowds as there will be nothing/nobody to see.

My guess would be if Trump were to have one of his rally time appearances he, like Bush did, would attract huge crowds. There would be a real reason to attend and participate. I also think the invite only venue was a poor choice for The Villages. And I am not sure whose preference that reflects.....Trumps or....?....

Anyway the lucky few will represent the wishes of the rest of us.


What venue in The Villages would be more appropriate??? A venue to accommodate 15,000 to 25,000???

[dewilson58]

We went up and sat at Gators for lunch. Enjoyed watching the crowds. Few nuts were there.


Headed over to the Polo Field to watch the "helicopters" take off.


Was an enjoyable day for a golf cart cruise in TV.

[pauld315]

Are they (security) keeping the crowds in the square thin? I'm watching the webcam of the square and now (at 12:38PM) it looks like there are bigger crowds during Happy Hour when Johnny Wild is playing. I expected wall to wall people.

Most of the people in the square were on the Margarita Republic facing
Demshars Many people also setup along the street across from the Sharon. There was nothing going on near the gazebo

[pauld315]

The speech was presented live on Fox 35.
I just think many folks like me, just aren't going to go out where the odds of seeing him approach zero.

Too bad. We got there at about 11. Found a seat in front of MVP and were planning on moving our chairs over in front of Demshars when he started speaking so we could see the big screen. About 1230 they came by and said all the ticketed people were in and they were now allowing others in. Sat in the balcony right in the center and saw the whole thing with no whistling from disrespectful neighbors here in TV.

[dewilson58]

I had no idea that they would be using the V-22 Osprey for presidential transportation.

Picture taken of one of three departing from the east grass parking lot at the polo field after the event at Spanish Springs. It’s a good shot of the ball field fence. :shocked:
Dropbox - IMG_3542.JPG - Simplify your life (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bqkhukshruri5p/IMG_3542.JPG?dl=0)

more information on the Osprey
Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)




Must have been standing right next to you.


:icon_wink:

[billethkid]

What venue in The Villages would be more appropriate??? A venue to accommodate 15,000 to 25,000???

"...like Bush did..."
He did Lake Sumter Landing and attracted thousands of people.
My issue was not whether appropriate as much as any venue that would maximize exposure as much as possible....like Bush did.

[Bogie Shooter]

What venue in The Villages would be more appropriate??? A venue to accommodate 15,000 to 25,000???
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[Bogie Shooter]

Too bad. We got there at about 11. Found a seat in front of MVP and were planning on moving our chairs over in front of Demshars when he started speaking so we could see the big screen. About 1230 they came by and said all the ticketed people were in and they were now allowing others in. Sat in the balcony right in the center and saw the whole thing with no whistling from disrespectful neighbors here in TV.
Do you mean it was not a “sell out”?

[anothersteve]

Too bad. We got there at about 11. Found a seat in front of MVP and were planning on moving our chairs over in front of Demshars when he started speaking so we could see the big screen. About 1230 they came by and said all the ticketed people were in and they were now allowing others in. Sat in the balcony right in the center and saw the whole thing with no whistling from disrespectful neighbors here in TV.

I was right there also and didn't see or hear anything to that fact.
Believe me..........I (and many others) would've been all over it,
Steve

[Nucky]

There were many, at least a dozen people walking down the street past Flippers still calling out their thoughts on Megaphones while the Megatron TV and speakers were being interrupted by these people exercising their right to free speech. It was another day In The Villages. The majority of the people we observed were just enjoying the experience quietly and respectfully.

When we came over the Golf Cart Bridge and saw the line up of School Buses and the massive amount of humanity trying to find their way up towards the square we considered turning around. The parking lots we saw were fully packed. It was a nice experience. We will be there for any and all Presidents who honor our home with their presence.

It must have been something once it was time to leave. All those cars in all those parking lots and everyone want's to be first. We left early.

The size of the crowd was considerable but to us, the only thing that matters about the crowd is that we were there.

[coffeebean]

From what I understand they did have big screens outside The Sharon for the 10's of thousands to view the speech.

Hubby and I watched the speech LIVE on WESH2 in the comfort of our living room.

[Taltarzac725]

Hubby and I watched the speech LIVE on WESH2 in the comfort of our living room.

I saw some of that. It seemed to be the only Orlando area station that was showing it live like that. I did not check FOX though. I can only take so much of Fox.

[Velvet]

Don’t have Fox channel, I’m sorry to have missed the speech. It’d have been so nice to see the President in TV.

[graciegirl]

There were many, at least a dozen people walking down the street past Flippers still calling out their thoughts on Megaphones while the Megatron TV and speakers were being interrupted by these people exercising their right to free speech. It was another day In The Villages. The majority of the people we observed were just enjoying the experience quietly and respectfully.

When we came over the Golf Cart Bridge and saw the line up of School Buses and the massive amount of humanity trying to find their way up towards the square we considered turning around. The parking lots we saw were fully packed. It was a nice experience. We will be there for any and all Presidents who honor our home with their presence.

It must have been something once it was time to leave. All those cars in all those parking lots and everyone want's to be first. We left early.

The size of the crowd was considerable but to us, the only thing that matters about the crowd is that we were there.

Your post made tears come. I came to see Kennedy and I was too young to vote. I came to see Trump because he came to my town. I understand. I am grateful that people like you and Priscilla are part of my world. None of us agree all of the time and sometimes some on this Forum become upset and angry with each other.

There are far fewer years ahead of us for all of us here in The Villages than the ones we have lived.

I am so blessed to spend them with people like you Nucky who are dear to me and my family.

[PrudentLifer]

I saw some of that. It seemed to be the only Orlando area station that was showing it live like that. I did not check FOX though. I can only take so much of Fox.



Shepard Smith I'll watch from time to time.

[retiredguy123]

Don’t have Fox channel, I’m sorry to have missed the speech. It’d have been so nice to see the President in TV.
Here is the youtube link.

Trump delivers remarks on Medicare in Florida - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiRpZS1gPw)

[Velvet]

Here is the youtube link.

Trump delivers remarks on Medicare in Florida - YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiRpZS1gPw)

Thank you, link is working.

[PrudentLifer]

I'm more interested in the executive order document detailing what exactly is contained within.

[retiredguy123]

I'm more interested in the executive order document detailing what exactly is contained within.
Here is a link for the executive order. I don't know why it says access denied, but clicking on it should take you to the document.

Access Denied (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-protecting-improving-medicare-nations-seniors/)

[PrudentLifer]

Here is a link for the executive order. I don't know why it says access denied, but clicking on it should take you to the document.

Access Denied (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-protecting-improving-medicare-nations-seniors/)



Now that I've read it I need a legalese translation. Hopefully the AARP will provide that with their upcoming publications. Thanks for the link retiredguy.

[Madelaine Amee]

Now that I've read it I need a legalese translation. Hopefully the AARP will provide that with their upcoming publications. Thanks for the link retiredguy.

Column: What seniors should know about Trump’s Medicare executive order | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order) This link is from PBS, it may help.

[PrudentLifer]

Column: What seniors should know about Trump’s Medicare executive order | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order) This link is from PBS, it may help.



Thank you

[Boomer]

Please stop, think, and read between the lines.

I can see a plan behind the “plan” that sure looks to me like this can easily lead to the total privatization of Medicare, thus turning total control of your healthcare over to insurance companies that can hold you hostage, by stonewalling your freedom to choose how and where and with whom you want your care.

Advantage plans, though the cost to the consumer is the most reasonable, are highly profitable for insurance companies.

This thing sure looks like it will lead to yet another golden egg laid — though not to the benefit of those who like choice, like having their Medicare as primary with a Plan F as secondary. Plan F is the most expensive supplement, but if serious health issues happen, the coverage takes care of everything and you do not have to try to navigate networks.

Plan F is going away after this year except for those who are grandfathered in. I have heard that plan G is also good and less expensive because of a relatively small deductible. (I think that’s right about plan G but I do not know the details for sure. I do completely understand Plan F though.)

I recognize that the lower premiums of an advantage plan are important to many seniors. That is their choice.

But I do not want my choice taken away, my choice of a mix of Medicare and a supplement.

I realize my opinion will be dismissed by most posters here, but I hope some may take a step back, take a close look, and think ahead about how quick a leap it can be from this order to total privatization of Medicare. It is is a slippery slope. (And speaking of slippery, I sure hope that we don’t see each other on the ice floes where I will have to weakly wave and whisper, “I told you so.”)

Please give my thoughts some thought.

Boomer

[Aloha1]

I thought it interesting that the MA plans double the profits compared to private plans, to the private insurers.

The Kaiser Family Foundation is a credible source.

With respect, the Kaiser Foundation was in the tank on Obamacare from the get go. They favor government run health insurance.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

With respect, the Kaiser Foundation was in the tank on Obamacare from the get go. They favor government run health insurance.

Government run health insurance predates Obama by around 40 years. Medicare was created in 1965. It IS, by definition, government-run health insurance.

Most seniors benefit from it, and the vast majority of seniors have already paid into it, whether they use it or not.

[PrudentLifer]

With respect, the Kaiser Foundation was in the tank on Obamacare from the get go. They favor government run health insurance.



Because they recognize the need for all Americans to have access to affordable health care. I see nothing wrong with that. They analyze for us dummies so we as educated consumers can make the right decision unencumbered from the falsehoods that private insurers and brokers advertise on every media source available.

[Polar Bear]

Because they recognize the need for all Americans to have access to affordable health care. I see nothing wrong with that. They analyze for us dummies so we as educated consumers can make the right decision unencumbered from the falsehoods that private insurers and brokers advertise on every media source available.
With respect, the Kaiser Foundation was in the tank on Obamacare from the get go. They favor government run health insurance.
Also with respect, Aloha1 is absolutely correct.

The Kaiser Foundation certainly does favor government run health insurance. So if that is what you favor, I’m sure they are a “credible source”.

[Bucco]

Also with respect, Aloha1 is absolutely correct.

The Kaiser Foundation certainly does favor government run health insurance. So if that is what you favor, I’m sure they are a “credible source”.

Not sure the basis for this statement but would love to know from where you get the information on which you base this.....

"ts website has been heralded for having the "most up-to-date and accurate information on health policy"[3] and as a "must-read for healthcare devotees."[4]

Kaiser Family Foundation - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Family_Foundation)

Not saying you are wrong for sure, but always curious what makes folks think a certain site is so bias. I usually check around and try, at least try to determine things like that Find nothing as of yet, but certainly await your information.

My post is not to support of or express non support of anything because it is very complicated but again...to BOOMERS point, please pay attention and read and not accept much of the rhetoric out there.

[Polar Bear]

I know this probably won't last long, but I took the trouble to put together what I think is a reasonable reply to a reasonable post, but the thread was closed before I hit the "post" button. I wanted to give it a chance.

From that thread...

Not sure the basis for this statement but would love to know from where you get the information on which you base this......
Well, you started off with an easy question. I got my information from this website...

Kaiser Family Foundation - Health Policy Research, Analysis, Polling, Facts, Data and Journalism (https://www.kff.org/) :)

...Not saying you are wrong for sure, but always curious what makes folks think a certain site is so bias. I usually check around and try, at least try to determine things like that Find nothing as of yet, but certainly await your information...
Wait no longer...I went to the site and read. (Are you sure you're not saying I'm wrong? Heheh.)
...please pay attention and read and not accept much of the rhetoric out there.
Can't argue with that advice. :)

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