Golf Course etiquette

[Martian]

Noob here with another question.

As we are preparing to take Good Golf course and lessons, etc. One thing I am a little concerned with is I don't want to be "in the way" of faster players.

Do players get upset at slow players - or is it normal to just let some "play through" (politely)?

I have no problem with letting other faster players go ahead of me at any tee.

Is this an issue? Is it normal? I would think with this many "old" people, some would be slower than others.

[anothersteve]

Noob here with another question.

As we are preparing to take Good Golf course and lessons, etc. One thing I am a little concerned with is I don't want to be "in the way" of faster players.

Do players get upset at slow players - or is it normal to just let some "play through" (politely)?

I have no problem with letting other faster players go ahead of me at any tee.

Is this an issue? Is it normal? I would think with this many "old" people, some would be slower than others.

Listen to the Ambassadors. If you have a question on course, ask an Ambassador. Tee times are set, don't let anyone play through without the OK from an Ambassador. believe it or not, there is some order to the way things are done and the way Ambassadors do their job, contrary to the belief of some. Usually on an exec there shouldn't be any reason to let someone play through, especially in the winter when courses are more crowded.
Steve

[alwann]

Trust me, if you play the exec courses, especially in the high season, even you will be complaining about how slow the pace is. As a beginning player, just remember you can always just pick up your ball and move on. Don't worry about the score.

Also, avoid booking tee times at the level 3 & 4 courses initially. You'll learn about the ratings in the Good Golf School.

By the way, what's a "noob?" Do you mean Newbie?

[baustgen]

As a golfer who plays frequently, I have no problem with beginners on the executive courses. We all started somewhere. The good school will go over the Good Golf rules. My suggestions are 1. Pick the ball up when your stroke count is twice the par. 2. Do not look for a lost ball more than 5 minuts. 3. Get off the green when you are done. 4. Look at the hole in front of you. If there is no on it, you are playing to slow. Speed up by skipping the tee off. Drive up to the hole, drop a ball on the green, put out, and catch up. If there is still no one on the hole ahead, skip the hole completely. We all thank you for being considerate.

[anothersteve]

As a golfer who plays frequently, I have no problem with beginners on the executive courses. We all started somewhere. The good school will go over the Good Golf rules. My suggestions are 1. Pick the ball up when your stroke count is twice the par. 2. Do not look for a lost ball more than 5 minuts. 3. Get off the green when you are done. 4. Look at the hole in front of you. If there is no on it, you are playing to slow. Speed up by skipping the tee off. Drive up to the hole, drop a ball on the green, put out, and catch up. If there is still no one on the hole ahead, skip the hole completely. We all thank you for being considerate.

Good advice, and will be discussed in the Good Golf School. It would sure help if everyone thought like that.
Steve

[Fredman]

Under the new PGA rules you have 3 minutes to look for a lost ball

[John_W]

That's why on an earlier thread of yours I mentioned, don't go to a championship course for at least a year. That's the biggest complaint at those courses. My foursome can play 18 holes in as little as 3 hours, we did that two weeks ago Evans Prairie when no one was in front of us. Normally it takes 4 hours if were playing behind other foursomes, like we did yesterday at Cane Garden. It's when our round takes 4 plus hours it gets to be a problem. That's why it's so great having the executives here at TV. Just imagine all the beginners at that championship courses. Most cities and towns you're lucky to find an executive style course. They're might be one in the whole city.

On the executives I mentioned don't play until you've gone to the driving range for a couple of weeks, you don't even know how far each club will go. If the hole is 130 yards, do you know what club to use. You're learning an entirely new sport. It's not like bowling, where you own the lane. There are groups going out right behind you. Keep that in mind.

[anothersteve]

Expected pace of play on champs is average 4hrs-26mins. One should always expect that, anything less is gravy.
Steve

[Polar Bear]

...By the way, what's a "noob?" Do you mean Newbie?
Heh.

noob=newb=newbie :)

[John_W]

Expected pace of play on champs is average 4hrs-26mins. One should always expect that, anything less is gravy.
Steve

That's what the marshall will tell you so you'll quit complaining. That time is way too long unless you're a pro and are playing $1,000 a hole. We quit complaining years ago. Yesterday I shot an 80 from the white tees from Jacaranda to Allamanda, and that included 5 three putts. If I could putt I be doing good. Two others in my group shot in the 70's, we move at a good pace.

[anothersteve]

That's what the marshall will tell you so you'll quit complaining. That time is way too long unless you're a pro and are playing $1,000 a hole. We quit complaining years ago. Yesterday I shot an 80 from the white tees from Jacaranda to Allamanda, and that included 5 three putts. If I could putt I be doing good. Two others in my group shot in the 70's, we move at a good pace.

Pace of play is dictated by tee times. Look on the score card under
"Etiquette"
I like to play fast myself, but if tee times are full I expect minimum 4hrs.
Steve

[graciegirl]

Noob here with another question.

As we are preparing to take Good Golf course and lessons, etc. One thing I am a little concerned with is I don't want to be "in the way" of faster players.

Do players get upset at slow players - or is it normal to just let some "play through" (politely)?

I have no problem with letting other faster players go ahead of me at any tee.

Is this an issue? Is it normal? I would think with this many "old" people, some would be slower than others.

Some solid direction here;

arnold palmer. while we're young. - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=arnold+palmer.+while+we%27re+young.&view=detail&mid=E7FC341EDD93968168CEE7FC341EDD93968168CE&FORM=VIRE)

[B-flat]

As a golfer who plays frequently, I have no problem with beginners on the executive courses. We all started somewhere. The good school will go over the Good Golf rules. My suggestions are 1. Pick the ball up when your stroke count is twice the par. 2. Do not look for a lost ball more than 5 minuts. 3. Get off the green when you are done. 4. Look at the hole in front of you. If there is no on it, you are playing to slow. Speed up by skipping the tee off. Drive up to the hole, drop a ball on the green, put out, and catch up. If there is still no one on the hole ahead, skip the hole completely. We all thank you for being considerate.

We are new to golf, thanks for the guidelines. We already read if we can’t sink it in 6 strokes take the 6 and be on our way. We are only playing level 1 courses and won’t step up for a while. My wife and I love the huge holes on the greens, doesn’t mean it’s easy but it sure beats the smaller holes for a beginner.

[karostay]

Under the new PGA rules you have 3 minutes to look for a lost ball


Villagers following PGA rules Yea Ok!

[Bogie Shooter]

That's what the marshall will tell you so you'll quit complaining. That time is way too long unless you're a pro and are playing $1,000 a hole. We quit complaining years ago. Yesterday I shot an 80 from the white tees from Jacaranda to Allamanda, and that included 5 three putts. If I could putt I be doing good. Two others in my group shot in the 70's, we move at a good pace.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[spk7951]

As a golfer who plays frequently, I have no problem with beginners on the executive courses. We all started somewhere. The good school will go over the Good Golf rules. My suggestions are 1. Pick the ball up when your stroke count is twice the par. 2. Do not look for a lost ball more than 5 minuts. 3. Get off the green when you are done. 4. Look at the hole in front of you. If there is no on it, you are playing to slow. Speed up by skipping the tee off. Drive up to the hole, drop a ball on the green, put out, and catch up. If there is still no one on the hole ahead, skip the hole completely. We all thank you for being considerate.


As of January 1, 2019 the new time limit for looking fro a lost golf ball is three minutes.

[billethkid]

Golf in TV has rules?
Not very apparent out on the courses (executive courses).

[justjim]

OP, raking sand traps, fixing ball marks and fixing divots are part of golf etiquette. Unfortunately, I see a lack of it especially on the executive courses.

[Rich42]

To othersteve......if u think 4 hrs and 26 mins is the "expected" pace of play, then u r obviously part of the problem!

[Lorizim]

Great suggestions!

[rjn5656]

Go to the range, and write down how far you hit each club. Then make a little cheet sheeet and paste it on your steering wheel of your cart. You can refer to it while you are playing until you are comforable knowing all your yardages.

[Ndomines]

Noob here with another question.

As we are preparing to take Good Golf course and lessons, etc. One thing I am a little concerned with is I don't want to be "in the way" of faster players.

Do players get upset at slow players - or is it normal to just let some "play through" (politely)?

I have no problem with letting other faster players go ahead of me at any tee.

Is this an issue? Is it normal? I would think with this many "old" people, some would be slower than others.
The pace of play on the executive golf courses is generally good. There are times when it is slow and more often than not it’s because some people appear to be oblivious to the other folks
In front or behind them.
Two big problems are:
1. Sorry girls but you are the worst offending party when it comes to standing around having discussions
Such as where do we go to lunch or who had the most serious health issue of the day or who has the smartest best looking grandkids.
2. The other big problem and perhaps the absolute worst is the Easter Egg Hunters. These folks are not happy just looking for their own ball hit out of bounds but they hold up pace on every hole looking to add to their collection
Another five gallon bucket of other peoples list golf balls.
The vast majority of folks out having a good time are polite and even if never informed on course etiquette, are aware of their responsibility to keep up the pace. It’s the rude idiots who stand around blabbing and hunting for balls that create huge unnecessary backups.
The ambassadors will sometimes try to politely get them moving but if you ask
the ambassadors they often will tell you they could loose there job or have a complaint filed against them so they end up doing little more than offering you water and saying have a nice day.

[Marathon Man]

Noob here with another question.

As we are preparing to take Good Golf course and lessons, etc. One thing I am a little concerned with is I don't want to be "in the way" of faster players.

Do players get upset at slow players - or is it normal to just let some "play through" (politely)?

I have no problem with letting other faster players go ahead of me at any tee.

Is this an issue? Is it normal? I would think with this many "old" people, some would be slower than others.

You have already completed the first and most important part. You care about it. We thank you.

[anothersteve]

To othersteve......if u think 4 hrs and 26 mins is the "expected" pace of play, then u r obviously part of the problem!

Look on the back of the scorecards, that will tell you "expected" pace of play, (mainly during the winter) and funny.......it says that under "etiquette". When tee times are full expect your round to take "at least" four hours. Like I said anything less than four is gravy. If you are rushing, and get annoyed at the people in front of you who can't play any faster because of the people in front of them etc.........you are part of the problem and should stay home.
Steve

[dennisgavin]

That's what the marshall will tell you so you'll quit complaining. That time is way too long unless you're a pro and are playing $1,000 a hole. We quit complaining years ago. Yesterday I shot an 80 from the white tees from Jacaranda to Allamanda, and that included 5 three putts. If I could putt I be doing good. Two others in my group shot in the 70's, we move at a good pace.

I hate you! Just kidding. I only wish......:pray:

[patbbb]

Expected pace of play on champs is average 4hrs-26mins. One should always expect that, anything less is gravy.
Steve

Take a better look at the times on the score cards. Glenview & Lopez both list 2:06 for every 9 holes & that equals 4:12 (typical of all courses)! If the hole is open in front of you and the group behind is waiting for you to hit, then you are behind and should pick up the pace.

[larrycox8ball@gmail.com]

I ALWAYS shoot in the 70's & 80's. It's too hot to play when its in the 90's and too cool when it's in the 60's.

[anothersteve]

Take a better look at the times on the score cards. Glenview & Lopez both list 2:06 for every 9 holes & that equals 4:12 (typical of all courses)! If the hole is open in front of you and the group behind is waiting for you to hit, then you are behind and should pick up the pace.

See my post #24
Steve

[OhioBuckeye]

Good advice, and will be discussed in the Good Golf School. It would sure help if everyone thought like that.
Steve

Yes, & besides it doesn’t cost you anything for you to play, you pay amenities weather you play golf or not, so slow playing people. Look ahead at next hole, if nobody is playing it skip a hole or look behind you, if you you see people on 2 or 3 greens behind you your playing way to slow. So don’t let your ego tell you that you’re better than you think you are. Nobody will think anything bad about you if you skip a hole or let someone play thru.

[justjim]

Go to the range, and write down how far you hit each club. Then make a little cheet sheeet and paste it on your steering wheel of your cart. You can refer to it while you are playing until you are comforable knowing all your yardages.

I agree with what you are saying for a single digit handicapper, however, for a new golfer that could provide more frustration than you already have if you write down your best effort with a given club and use that on the golf course. I’m currently a “bogey golfer” from the senior tees (sometimes worse) and yardage by clubs makes little difference because I’m so inconsistent as I aged, especially with my iron play. Let me be clear, I totally get what your saying as you need to know that you hit a nine 120 yards when hit solid and a five wood 175 yards, etc. Yes, you should write down your yardage with each club. My suggestion to a new golfer is to hit an extra club more , i.e. 8 iron, when one out of 6 or 7 tries you hit a nine iron about 120 yards on the driving range. Most golfers (except very low handicappers) don’t use enough club and come up short. Taking more club and a more controlled swing will help you improve your game. A Pro told me this more than once and it is very good advice for most of us golfers. :ho:

[Aloha1]

When you do venture on to the Championship courses please don't do what I see all too often: A foursome all goes to one individuals ball, waits for that player to hit and then goes to the next players ball. You should always be thinking about your next shot and if you are not in the "line of fire" from another player, go to your ball and be ready to hit when clear.

[patbbb]

See my post #24
Steve
Suggest you reread my comment which clearly says "If the hole in front of you is open...." I'm reading the back of scorecards from Glenview & Lopez, under etiquette, both say 4:15. That's what I said allowing a few minutes for the turn. As Rich42 said: "if u think 4 hrs and 26 mins is the "expected" pace of play, then u r obviously part of the problem!" I do not see your other comments on the cards.
Maybe you should either move up to the tee box from which you can reach the green in regulation OR play on the exec courses. Further, remember if each player wastes just 15 seconds when it's his turn to hit, that adds to a minute lost for a foresome at the tee box and every shot thereafter. That can result in 5 minutes per hole. And remember, your pace affects EVERY group on the course behind you and at the turn.

[patbbb]

When you do venture on to the Championship courses please don't do what I see all too often: A foursome all goes to one individuals ball, waits for that player to hit and then goes to the next players ball. You should always be thinking about your next shot and if you are not in the "line of fire" from another player, go to your ball and be ready to hit when clear.

Great advise! Also add, at the tee box have your club in your hands and be ready to step up and hit with minimum delay.

[Dilligas]

The score cards have the minimum time per hole on them. Each hole has a time from the beginning of the nine. That is what the ambassadors utilize for their comments on slow play to you. Good golf etiquette says you play 'ready golf' (meaning each player goes to {or finds} their ball and begins preparation for next shot as long as they are not in another players way). When it is your turn to hit, step up and hit, you should have already analyzed the lie, the distance, and the wind. If you are welll out of the way of other players, proceed wilth your shot as soon as possible. Your speed should be 'keeping up with the group in front of you' (assuming the same size group). You will NEVER receive a complaint from the ambassadors or players behind you for playing in under 4 hours. With everyone playing within their ability at the proper tees (not the macho tees), 3½ hour rounds could be the norm (more than 10 minutes average per hole with time for restrooms and water).

[MAITAIMIKE]

Letting a group play through may seem like it would speed up play but it usually doesn't unless there is a broken down cart or some other rarity.The fact of the matter is a slow group is slow for a reason. Play ready golf. If you are at your ball and you can take your shot safely ,take it. In the fairway drop a player at the first ball and go to the second ball and be ready to hit when it's safe .Waiting for the away person to shoot is not necessary . On the green be at your ball and be ready to put when it's your turn. Concede short putts and don't mark your ball unless necessary. Upon leaving the green get to your cart and drive to the next tee quickly. Mark your scores down at the next tee. These are little but can save a minute or two on a hole which can add up in 18 holes. I realize as we get older mobility can become an issue and fast play may be difficult for some so the Reasonable Accommodation (RAT tag)might help some players. The goal is to enjoy ourselves so if the slow players can try to be ready and the fast players be patient we might just have an enjoyable round.

[Dave@TV]

Under the new PGA rules you have 3 minutes to look for a lost ball

The 3 minute rule was established by the USGA and the R&A.

[mtdjed]

The executive tee time system has starts on the average every 9 minute (Seems to range from 8 to 10) and yet the score cards suggest i.e. 1Hr 30 Min or mostly 1 Hr 45 Min. I realize that some courses may be longer, have more par 4, or require more walking from the Cart Path, however , if starts are every 9 minutes, the 1 Hr 45 Min pace is never going to be possible. Especially in the prime season every one needs to pace at 1Hr 30 Min or less. That needs to be understood by all golfers. 1 group of golfers can slow every on down. New golfers might be prodded by Ambassadors to speed up or skip a hole, but why set an unrealistic pace on the golf card?

[Ray Pribish]

4 hours and 26 minutes per round on a championship course equates to nearly 25 minutes per hole. Not sure this is too long for a foursome but it is for sure if you are a twosome.

[Challenger]

4 hours and 26 minutes per round on a championship course equates to nearly 25 minutes per hole. Not sure this is too long for a foursome but it is for sure if you are a twosome.

266 /18 is fifteen not 26

[anothersteve]

4 hours and 26 minutes per round on a championship course equates to nearly 25 minutes per hole. Not sure this is too long for a foursome but it is for sure if you are a twosome.

25 minutes per hole equals 7hrs 30mins for 18. That's a long round! :icon_wink::icon_wink: Maybe you can expect that on Bethpage Black :1rotfl::1rotfl:
But not here.
Steve

[Chi-Town]

4 hours and 26 minutes per round on a championship course equates to nearly 25 minutes per hole. Not sure this is too long for a foursome but it is for sure if you are a twosome. Not sure about the math.

4 hours and 26 minutes = 266 minutes /18 =14.77 minutes per hole.


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[injunlee]

I think the average round is actually 4 hours and 15 minutes. Your group needs to keep up with the group in front of you....3 min max looking for a ball