Please, folks, stay home with your germs!

[Villageswimmer]

On Thursday, I arrived early at the Foreign Travel Club to get a seat where I could see the presentation well.

Before the beginning of the program, a person sat down beside me and proceeded to cough, sneeze and blow his nose. It was disgusting. I got up and took a seat in the back of the room to escape his germs. Maybe I should have said something to him, but he looked like the type who might become very angry.

How old do people need to be to have consideration for others and stay home until they’re well? It was close quarters. No telling how many people he infected.

Please keep your germs at home.

[BobnBev]

Very well said.:bigbow:

[Chatbrat]

When I was in business, I sent home employees who were sick-- I said " that's what your sick days are for"--yes my employees had sick days, profit sharing, and health benefits

[Cobh521]

maybe he had very bad allergies and was not sick

[billlaur]

the snowflakes are back

[Buckeyephan]

This morning in church, the young woman sitting behind us sneezed, coughed and blew her nose throughout mass. Even if she suffers from allergies, it is certainly would have been more sanitary if she had stayed home.

[billlaur]

they are definitely back:pray:

[Velvet]

I have a mask, charcoal filter etc light grey very inconspicuous. Can wear if someone else has a cold or if I have a cold. It also filters out odors. If I really don’t want people to notice I drape a very light scarf around my neck and hide it. On planes or anywhere. I figure it’s easier to change myself than everyone else.

One time I got on a plane with a cold and put a doctor’s type mask on before the plane took off. We were waiting and waiting and the plane was a good hour late when the crew finally approached me because I looked ‘suspicious.’

[claytocl]

You should have said “God bless you” as any good Christian would.

[Martian]

Each to their own. I don't think being considerate is related to age - maybe an inverse relationship..

Personally, I don't mind people sneezing and coughing around me. I look at it as vitamin supplements for my immune system.

If I am sick, I try to stay out of the public places, since I know a lot of people (most?) tend to not like to have bugs shared with them. But, I don't mind being on the receiving end.

[claytocl]

This morning in church, the young woman sitting behind us sneezed, coughed and blew her nose throughout mass. Even if she suffers from allergies, it is certainly would have been more sanitary if she had stayed home.
Why didn’t you just say “God bless you?”

[Martian]

You should have said “God bless you” as any good Christian would.

Interesting, explanations about the origins of “God bless you,” or in short, “Bless you.” date back to the first century, and are deeply rooted in SUPERSTITION.

Back then, a sneeze was sometimes thought to be the body's way of trying to rid itself of evil spirits. So, in that case, saying “God bless you” was a way to try to provide a protection, or a good luck charm, against the evil spirits leaving or inhabiting the body.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Maybe they were allergic to someone's aftershave or perfume, who was sitting too close to them. Or maybe they have the plague. Could go either way I suppose.

[600th Photo Sq]

This morning in church, the young woman sitting behind us sneezed, coughed and blew her nose throughout mass. Even if she suffers from allergies, it is certainly would have been more sanitary if she had stayed home.

Was it the 1st or 2nd collection, or perhaps the " Bishops Fund " collection.

Curious :shocked:

[Martian]

Was it the 1st or 2nd collection, or perhaps the " Bishops Fund " collection.

Curious :shocked:

Hmm, are you suggesting the woman may have been allergic to the Bishops Fund! :) :pray:

[600th Photo Sq]

Hmm, are you suggesting the woman may have been allergic to the Bishops Fund! :) :pray:

Gotta laugh Credit Cards gladly accepted please bring along proper " ID " It really is all about the money.

Beautiful Homes, Expensive Car(s), and for some Private Airplane ownership.

Gotta Love it. :MOJE_whot:

[Bjeanj]

Maybe they were allergic to someone's aftershave or perfume, who was sitting too close to them. Or maybe they have the plague. Could go either way I suppose.

That’s pretty funny.

I have many allergies, with many medicines to minimize or eliminate symptoms. Unfortunately, they don’t always work and sometimes I start hacking and blowing my nose. We all have levels we are willing to tolerate. If I get too bad, I’ll get up and leave.

[redwitch]

I’m an avid bridge player. The Villages Duplicate Club is the second largest club in the USA. Several of our players have compromised immune systems. We don’t play if we have a cold. Four hours of fun not worth risking the health of another.

[Bay Kid]

If you are sick do stay home. Common sense.

[BK001]

When I was in business, I sent home employees who were sick-- I said " that's what your sick days are for"--yes my employees had sick days, profit sharing, and health benefits

While I agree with you, I worked at several large organizations that provided incentives for "perfect attendance". And DH worked at a hospital no less and got $25 bonus for each quarter of perfect attendance.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Also "sick days" weren't guaranteed nationwide until the previous administration. In retail, it used to be you worked, you got paid. You don't work, you don't get paid. Period. Not everyone had the luxury of staying home if they were sick.

Even now, you're only entitled to 1 hour of sick time per 40 hours worked. It's stackable to up to 1 year and 6 months total so if you never get sick, at the end of your 18th month you could have a nice bank of sick time available.

That's not even just retail. Many small businesses work that way, restaurants, chains, security companies, etc. etc.

Many people go to work sick, because they don't get enough sick time to accommodate a yearly cold AND a yearly bout with the flu, and are underinsured or not eligible for company-paid insurance at work. The upshot is - if they show up for work and the boss SENDS them home, typically they get paid for the whole shift. The downside to that, is that usually you have to puke in front of the customer for the boss to send you home, if it means you get paid for the shift you aren't actually working.

Real world work ethics 101 for ya.

[EdFNJ]

Also "sick days" weren't guaranteed nationwide until the previous administration. In retail, it used to be you worked, you got paid. You don't work, you don't get paid. Period. Not everyone had the luxury of staying home if they were sick.

Even now, you're only entitled to 1 hour of sick time per 40 hours worked. It's stackable to up to 1 year and 6 months total so if you never get sick, at the end of your 18th month you could have a nice bank of sick time available.

That's not even just retail. Many small businesses work that way, restaurants, chains, security companies, etc. etc.

Many people go to work sick, because they don't get enough sick time to accommodate a yearly cold AND a yearly bout with the flu, and are underinsured or not eligible for company-paid insurance at work. The upshot is - if they show up for work and the boss SENDS them home, typically they get paid for the whole shift. The downside to that, is that usually you have to puke in front of the customer for the boss to send you home, if it means you get paid for the shift you aren't actually working.

Real world work ethics 101 for ya.

Curious as to what FEDERAL law that was? I managed a single multi-million$ location FT for a large national shipping franchise after I retired and before we moved here and I'm pretty sure I would (or SHOULD) have heard about that law. All the general info I can find is this: How many sick days is my employer legally required to provide? | Nolo (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-sick-days-employer-legally-required-provide.html)

Sick pay/sick day laws seems to be up to state regs. All I see federally is the FMLA which has nothing to to with taking off for a cold or 1 hr off for 40 hrs worked and doesn't require pay at all, just the guarantee you'll have a job when you return.

[retiredguy123]

Curious as to what FEDERAL law that was? I managed a single multi-million$ location FT for a large national shipping franchise after I retired and before we moved here and I'm pretty sure I would (or SHOULD) have heard about that law. All the general info I can find is this: How many sick days is my employer legally required to provide? | Nolo (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-sick-days-employer-legally-required-provide.html)

Sick pay/sick day laws seems to be up to state regs. All I see federally is the FMLA which has nothing to to with taking off for a cold or 1 hr off for 40 hrs worked and doesn't require pay at all, just the guarantee you'll have a job when you return.
As far as I know, there is no Federal law that reqiires employers to provide any paid sick leave to employees. The FMLA (Family and Medical Leave Act) was signed into law by President Clinton in 1993. It allows employees to take up to 12 weeks off for medical purposes, but this is unpaid leave.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Curious as to what FEDERAL law that was? I managed a single multi-million$ location FT for a large national shipping franchise after I retired and before we moved here and I'm pretty sure I would (or SHOULD) have heard about that law. All the general info I can find is this: How many sick days is my employer legally required to provide? | Nolo (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-sick-days-employer-legally-required-provide.html)

Sick pay/sick day laws seems to be up to state regs. All I see federally is the FMLA which has nothing to to with taking off for a cold or 1 hr off for 40 hrs worked and doesn't require pay at all, just the guarantee you'll have a job when you return.

Actually - you're right. I just double checked. I made an incorrect assumption that my state's law was a federal law. It isn't. This actually supports the concern even more then:

There is no law requiring businesses in this country to give their employees ANY sick time at all. It is exclusively on a state basis.

In fact, as of August 20's calculations, only 7 states have mandatory sick leave: Arizona, California, Massachusetts, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington State.

The rest of the country including DC, doesn't have to give a single hour's worth of paid sick time to its employees.

So now you know why so many people come to work sick. They don't get paid, if they don't come to work sick.

Some people actually rely on - y'know - getting paid - to cover expenses.

[Villageswimmer]

This thread was hijacked. It wasn’t about employment law. It was about inconsiderate folks attending optional functions sick.

[PrudentLifer]

Haven't been sick since I moved here 3 years ago. I chalk it up to not having to use public restrooms, porta potties and shaking hands 20 times a day.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..." [emoji527]
George Orwell

[NotGolfer]

This thread was hijacked. It wasn’t about employment law. It was about inconsiderate folks attending optional functions sick.

I was just going to say that too. Why do folks go off on rabbit trails on these threads? I'm one of the folks with a compromised immune system. Two years ago when that awful flu was rampant, I stayed home. Yet I still got the flu and pneumonia with it. Might have picked it up in a doctor's office. Anyway I agree with the OP re: the fact that people don't use common sense and remain home "IF" they're not feeling well.

[Villageswimmer]

I was just going to say that too. Why do folks go off on rabbit trails on these threads? I'm one of the folks with a compromised immune system. Two years ago when that awful flu was rampant, I stayed home. Yet I still got the flu and pneumonia with it. Might have picked it up in a doctor's office. Anyway I agree with the OP re: the fact that people don't use common sense and remain home "IF" they're not feeling well.


Why? Could it be there are those who are trying to prove how smart they are or just crave attention? Dunno.

[Topspinmo]

This morning in church, the young woman sitting behind us sneezed, coughed and blew her nose throughout mass. Even if she suffers from allergies, it is certainly would have been more sanitary if she had stayed home.

Or maybe she was just nervous?:)

[queasy27]

I try not to rely on others being considerate about my health. As another immunocompromised person, I have adopted the habit (more common in some Asian countries) of wearing a disposable medical mouth/nose mask when going to enclosed spaces with the general public, such as a doctor's office or theater. If anyone asks or seems offended, I just say I'm the one who has a cold.

A mask can engender some odd looks and comments, but I'll take those over getting sick. I don't usually wear the mask to places like the grocery or drug store, but am careful to wash my hands after those errands.

[trichard]

This is high pollen season. Allergies are not contagious.

[Average Guy]

I try not to rely on others being considerate about my health. As another immunocompromised person, I have adopted the habit (more common in some Asian countries) of wearing a disposable medical mouth/nose mask when going to enclosed spaces with the general public, such as a doctor's office or theater. If anyone asks or seems offended, I just say I'm the one who has a cold.

A mask can engender some odd looks and comments, but I'll take those over getting sick. I don't usually wear the mask to places like the grocery or drug store, but am careful to wash my hands after those errands.
Probably not good to wear a mask inside a bank either...