More bad driver indicators.

[billethkid]

The number of gates knocked down or crashed (many hit multiple times per year).

The number of dividing posts on multi modal paths either knocked down, partially knocked down or with black tire marks on them (many hit multiple times per year).

Black tire marks up the side of the wall of entrances to tunnels.

The number of horn blowing or bird flipping encounters in traffic circles.....many times per hour per day...any traffic circle.

Just to name a few.

Feel free to add other indicators.....mainly for good humor and entertainment.

.......but scarily TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!

[anothersteve]

I helped a woman in a golf cart after she crossed 441 from Avenida Central onto Griffin and turned into the BP station. She was looking for Target. Had to stop traffic to get her to cross to La Plaza Grande. Then she followed me to the golf cart path that leads to the bridge.There were 2 more carts at the same time there that crossed Griffin to go to the BP because the Shell's pumps were either not working or were out of gas.
Steve

[karostay]

Our golf cart speeds have become unregulated..
I'm a violator myself..Drive around 22 and I'm standing still

In my car I dive 5 over and just yesterday going up Buena Vista Approaching Round About a sign posted LEFT LANE CLOSED Landscapers ahead
Some Idiot in silver car and I Hope they see this decided they were not going to merge right drove on inside of the cones and roundabout ..I prayed that no workers were working around the corner
Yes I saluted them I just don't know what the hurry is here

[Chatbrat]

I am a very aggressive driver , when I'm behind two cars, side by side doing 5mph under the speed limit on Buena Vista, Morse , 466 and 466 A-- as soon as I can get past one of those oblivious self centered drivers I'll scoot past them and enter my safe zone--

[mixsonci]

Just don't tailgate me. I always drive the speed limit and up to 5 mph over, but if tailgated, I'll slow down to 5mph total and hope you don't get the chance to pass.

[Chatbrat]

Never tailgate--if you're in the left lane , getup of the way--its a passing lane--not a personal preference lane

[Aces4]

Never tailgate--if you're in the left lane , getup of the way--its a passing lane--not a personal preference lane

Not in The Villages with roundabouts, lane staging for entering/exiting is necessary in heavier traffic. This is not an expressway.

You must have the worst luck, in over 15 years of Village living we have never encountered two vehicles side by side both traveling 5 miles under the speed limit. We have, however, encountered those who start late and drive with a heavy foot tailgating the normal drivers.

[Chatbrat]

Two weekends ago my wife and myself contacted 911, we were sure we were behind a DRUNK driver-after getting in touch with dispatch- we were giving a blow by blow description of the driver almost hitting curbs , driving 10mph under the limit-we gave the dispatcher all the cross streets-we first were in touch from St. Charles and BaileyTr--followed the car onto Buena Vista , the deputy finally caught up with us as we flashed him along side Lopez Legacy--guess what the driver wasn't dunk--but was using a hand held cell phone--per the Dputy when I called the next day-

IMHO--no difference form a person DUI and another person texting and talking on a hand held phone

[Polar Bear]

Never tailgate--if you're in the left lane , getup of the way--its a passing lane--not a personal preference laneNot in The Villages with roundabouts, lane staging for entering/exiting is necessary in heavier traffic...
Yes. Even in TV with roundabouts.

Same rules as any other multi lane roads. If you’re turning left at the next roundabout, get in the left lane as you approach the roundabout...same principle as any other road system.

Chatbrat’s post is absolutely right.

[Aces4]

Yes. Even in TV with roundabouts.

Same rules as any other multi lane roads. If you’re turning left at the next roundabout, get in the left lane as you approach the roundabout...same principle as any other road system.

Chatbrat’s post is absolutely right.

Therefore, there should be no passing by weaving into the right lane in an attempt to outrun the speeding car ahead of one in the left lane which isn’t going fast enough for one’s taste. Correct? Because we see that often.

I offer that if everyone is to be in the right lane except when entering and exiting the roundabouts traffic would be backed up from one end of The Villages to the other. It isn’t feasible with the design and population of this community.

[Two Bills]

Car driver. "Is this road one way or two way?"

Cart driver. "Actually it's NO WAY, it's a cart path!"

Car driver. :ohdear:

True story. I was that car driver, 20 years ago.

The difference was, I think people were much more tolerant of mistakes back then.
Although the basic civility of TV has stayed, a lot of people seem fly off into a strop, and throw their toys out of the pram much quicker these days.

[Aces4]

Car driver. "Is this road one way or two way?"

Cart driver. "Actually it's NO WAY, it's a cart path!"

Car driver. :ohdear:

True story. I was that car driver, 20 years ago.

The difference was, I think people were much more tolerant of mistakes back then.
Although the basic civility of TV has stayed, a lot of people seem fly off into a strop, and throw their toys out of the pram much quicker these days.

Love your analogy, gave me a good laugh.

[Polar Bear]

...I offer that if everyone is to be in the right lane except when entering and exiting the roundabouts traffic would be backed up from one end of The Villages to the other. It isn’t feasible with the design and population of this community.
That’s not what is being said at all. Not even close. Just don’t stay in the left lane holding up faster traffic when the right lane is open...unless you are approaching a roundabout where you will make a left turn. Very simple.

[Aces4]

That’s not what is being said at all. Not even close. Just don’t stay in the left lane holding up faster traffic when the right lane is open...unless you are approaching a roundabout where you will make a left turn. Very simple.

That’s quite different than stating all traffic must be in the right lane unless passing.

[Chatbrat]

On the Autobahn. if you are in the passing lane you better have your left turn signal on and pass, and when you're finished passing you better get out of the passing lane , you'll get a hefty fine if you don't or you might get your rear end handed to you by a Benz or Porsche doing 180mph+

[Polar Bear]

That’s quite different than stating all traffic must be in the right lane unless passing.
Totally agree.

[billethkid]

Good example citing enforcement and observing the law/rules of the road.

Here in TV enforcement is for all practical purposes non-existent (unless you want to change the color of your house:)).

And observing the law/rules of the road....as many violators as there are following the rules/law.

The above being the main reasons for the damage and reckless driving.

[VApeople]

If other drivers irritate you, it is your fault.

At our age, we should have learned that everyone is going to drive the way they want to. They are not going to change their driving behavior just to suit you.

If you encounter a driver doing something you consider to be stupid, you should realize that other drivers will probably do the same thing and you should be ready for it.

[BobnBev]

a lot of people seem fly off into a strop, and throw their toys out of the pram<------------Say What????

[billethkid]

If other drivers irritate you, it is your fault.

At our age, we should have learned that everyone is going to drive the way they want to. They are not going to change their driving behavior just to suit you.

If you encounter a driver doing something you consider to be stupid, you should realize that other drivers will probably do the same thing and you should be ready for it.

Inaccurate interpretation of the original post!!!

There was no intent or even hint of needing anybody to change anything.

And no reference or inference considering anything stupid or not.

Just plain old observation.... and as stated in the original post....

".....mainly for good humor and entertainment...."

[Aces4]

Good example citing enforcement and observing the law/rules of the road.

Here in TV enforcement is for all practical purposes non-existent (unless you want to change the color of your house:)).

And observing the law/rules of the road....as many violators as there are following the rules/law.

The above being the main reasons for the damage and reckless driving.

I agree, aggressive driving in The Villages is a bizarre concept to me and I’m not a fuddy duddy on the road. These are some very old people in automobiles.

[mixsonci]

If I'm in the left lane doing the speed limit or even up to 5 mph over, why would you need to pass me? Unless you are speeding????????????? So I'm not wrong, you are

[Bay Kid]

I hope everyone learns to drive properly before I return.

[Viperguy]

Ever wonder why these threads increase in Oct?

[Polar Bear]

If I'm in the left lane doing the speed limit or even up to 5 mph over, why would you need to pass me? Unless you are speeding????????????? So I'm not wrong, you are
Sorry, but that’s not the case. It is against state law to block faster traffic in the left lane. Yes...even if that faster traffic is exceeding the speed limit.

From the Miami Herald:

“In Florida and 44 other states, obstructing traffic in the left lane is against the law. Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the prevailing speed of traffic, regardless of the speed limit. ... Same thing applies to the passing lanes in the Keys.“

Florida Statutes Chapter 316 if you’d like to track down the specifics.

[Aces4]

Sorry, but that’s not the case. It is against state law to block faster traffic in the left lane. Yes...even if that faster traffic is exceeding the speed limit.

From the Miami Herald:

“In Florida and 44 other states, obstructing traffic in the left lane is against the law. Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the prevailing speed of traffic, regardless of the speed limit. ... Same thing applies to the passing lanes in the Keys.“

Florida Statutes Chapter 316 if you’d like to track down the specifics.

It’s against state law to speed too!

[Polar Bear]

It’s against state law to speed too!
Separate discussion entirely. It doesn’t change the law I cited.

[anothersteve]

Separate discussion entirely.

Why should this thread be any different than the others? :popcorn:
Steve

[Fast Freddy]

If more visible, probably less knocking down. How about iridescent orange and green stripes?
The black and white lettering in the center of each gate is very dull and uses a lot of space.
These gates need to Stand Out. Maybe a light shinning on the gate?
At night, the gates really do not stand out.
A major change Village wide needs implemented.

District Leaders: Ask the drivers who knock down the gates, why they didn't see it....if its visibility then that's the answer. Simple.

[Aces4]

Separate discussion entirely. It doesn’t change the law I cited.

Now that was funny, thank you for the laugh.:MOJE_whot:

[Number 10 GI]

If more visible, probably less knocking down. How about iridescent orange and green stripes?
The black and white lettering in the center of each gate is very dull and uses a lot of space.
These gates need to Stand Out. Maybe a light shinning on the gate?
At night, the gates really do not stand out.
A major change Village wide needs implemented.

District Leaders: Ask the drivers who knock down the gates, why they didn't see it....if its visibility then that's the answer. Simple.

If a person has lived in TV for any length of time they should know that there is a gate arm at the entrances. If they can't remember that maybe its time to turn in the drivers license. When you pull up to an entrance, where you should remember that there is a gate arm, and can't see the arm in your headlights maybe it's time to turn in the drivers license.
In addition to lighting up the gate with a spot light maybe we should have a flashing red light on the gate arm also like at rail road crossings. There could also be a gate guard with a flashlight with a red cone lens to guide the blind drivers through the entrance.:ohdear:

[golf2140]

Been here in excess of 19 years and have never knocked down a gate arm. It's just poor driving the cause.

[Topspinmo]

On the Autobahn. if you are in the passing lane you better have your left turn signal on and pass, and when you're finished passing you better get out of the passing lane , you'll get a hefty fine if you don't or you might get your rear end handed to you by a Benz or Porsche doing 180mph+


We’re NOT on the autobahn or in Germany. Few MB and Porsche will run 180

[Topspinmo]

I hope everyone learns to drive properly before I return.

When are you going to return? When we go back to horse and buggy?

[joldnol]

Just don't tailgate me. I always drive the speed limit and up to 5 mph over, but if tailgated, I'll slow down to 5mph total and hope you don't get the chance to pass.

no prob, stay in right hand lane

[coffeebean]

Just don't tailgate me. I always drive the speed limit and up to 5 mph over, but if tailgated, I'll slow down to 5mph total and hope you don't get the chance to pass.

Doing that could make you another statistic of road rage. I would not slow down to 5mph with no way for the driver to pass me. That may infuriate driver. Be careful out there!

[Velvet]

Oh, oh I’m going to try talking with hubby who drives professionally I keep telling him, this is TV, different rules apply!

[billethkid]

Oh, oh I’m going to try talking with hubby who drives professionally I keep telling him, this is TV, different rules apply!

Where far too many rules do not apply for too many.

Compounded by complete lack of enforcement.

When is the last time anyone has seen a speed trap?
The average speed of traffic on TV main roads is significantly over the speed limit.

[NotGolfer]

Then there's the drivers on Colony Drive at Sembler Way who run stop signs AND/OR turn left in front of other vehicles. Happened today!!

People who drive the road speeds in parking lots....

[Polar Bear]

...The average speed of traffic on TV main roads is significantly over the speed limit.
You mean like on almost every road everywhere?

[Velvet]

Yes, I am thinking defensive driving and carting and walking; avoid the fast lane changers, the very slow ones in front of you, the person who turns into the lane facing you, make sure you can jump out of the way of the car going at lightning speed in parking lot, the car on the golf cart path etc etc.

[VApeople]

avoid the fast lane changers, the very slow ones in front of you, the person who turns into the lane facing you, make sure you can jump out of the way of the car going at lightning speed in parking lot, the car on the golf cart path etc etc.

The only way to truly avoid these people is to stay home.

If you want to join the real world, accept the fact that some people are going to do things that do not meet your approval and learn how to deal with them.

[Velvet]

Defensive driving, riding etc doesn’t mean staying at home, to me. It means ‘leaving myself an out’. Enough space around so that I can take evasive action. Being alert and anticipating what the people around me might do so I can respond safely.

[EnglishJW]

Not in The Villages with roundabouts, lane staging for entering/exiting is necessary in heavier traffic. This is not an expressway.

You must have the worst luck, in over 15 years of Village living we have never encountered two vehicles side by side both traveling 5 miles under the speed limit. We have, however, encountered those who start late and drive with a heavy foot tailgating the normal drivers.


Sorry but we too have often gotten behind side by side drivers going well below the speed limit. The opposite is more likely but both slow pokes and NASCAR wannabes abound.

[Aces4]

Sorry but we too have often gotten behind side by side drivers going well below the speed limit. The opposite is more likely but both slow pokes and NASCAR wannabes abound.

Hmmm, I found just the opposite, People going 5 miles over the speed and the tardy people who can’t get out the door on time and they try to make it up on the road.

[600th Photo Sq]

For me I tend to look on the Brightside.

" Welcome Back Snowbirds "

Keep getting those Automobile Tickets especially the Speeding Tickets, it definitely helps with our road repair costs.

Again Welcome Back !

[Aces4]

For me I tend to look on the Brightside.

" Welcome Back Snowbirds "

Keep getting those Automobile Tickets especially the Speeding Tickets, it definitely helps with our road repair costs.

Again Welcome Back !

Why, thank you. Thank you also, year rounders for raking in those automobile tickets 365 days per year.

You’re also welcome for all of us snowbirds making all your costs manageable.:clap2:

[dewilson58]

I was one of those bad drivers today.




Coming out of the Golf Store in Sumter, I kept creeping out until I could see traffic coming from around the bushes. Whoops, I stuck my nose out too far. The driver of the pick-up was very nice.


I now have a broom handle with the mirror on the end of it.


:ohdear:

[Velvet]

Yikes! At least it was only the mirror.

[dewilson58]

Yikes! At least it was only the mirror.




Nothing physical today...................the mirror on the broomstick is so I can see around bushes better




:a040:

[bilcon]

Did anyone see the picture in our great newspaper today, Saturday. Talk about unsafe driving. They showed a picture of a lady who adopted a big dog and he is sitting on her lap while she is in her golf cart. What a great advertisement for SAFE DRIVING practices. Sadly I see several examples of people with pets on their laps while they are trying to drive. Get your pet out of the front seat of your vehicle. If you love your pet, I'm sure you don't want to see them sail through the front window of your vehicle. GET SMART!

[vintageogauge]

At least traffic flows smoothly for the most part. I don't like going north on Morse and crossing 466 into the Spanish Side of TV other than that I find it pretty easy to get around.

[DARFAP]

Maybe that was a service dog driving the cart for her :)

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[Two Bills]

Maybe that was a service dog driving the cart for her :)

....or even a rescued seeing eye dog directing her?

[Deseylou]

I was exiting a round about on Hillsbourgh when a car passed me from behind in the merge lane. Almost ran me up on the curb.

[VApeople]

I was exiting a round about on Hillsbourgh when a car passed me from behind in the merge lane.

If the person tries to do the same thing tomorrow, what action will you take?

One suggestion I have is to drive slowly thru a roundabout so it is easier to react when another driver does something stupid.

My only other idea is to honk if you suspect they might do something stupid. When I am driving 3/4 of the way around a roundabout and then exiting, I often honk at a driver if I suspect they might pull out in front of me.

[Mase4]

Just don't tailgate me. I always drive the speed limit and up to 5 mph over, but if tailgated, I'll slow down to 5mph total and hope you don't get the chance to pass.
This can cause an accident. Please never do anything that can cause an accident. Pull over and let the driver pass, it's much safer.

[Gatorhutch]

One statistic I would love to see ... is the number of gates that need to be replaced, on average, by TV each month. The gate at Pinella and Buena Vista gets “boinked” one or two times every month!

[Chatbrat]

# one has to be Bailey TR and Buena Vista- that gate arm commits suicide very often--its down today, again

[Rstoeffler1]

The only thing I noticed with the gates is that late in the day when the sun is setting it is impossible to see the gates. One never knows if the gates are down or up either. I also noticed that the vast magority of the gates face east kr west hence the difficulty at sunrise & sunset. I can’t comment on the other issues.

[bobcat75]

I think there should be a Police cart department keeping watch on cart drivers.

[Velvet]

Or bicycles, up north the police use bicycles sometimes.

[Two Bills]

Or bicycles, up north the police use bicycles sometimes.

Dont know about bicycles.
When I see the condition/size/girth of some of the local police, it would appear exercise is not high on their list of priorities.
I am 80, got a dodgy knee and I still fancy my chances in outrunning a quite a few of them! :icon_wink:

[Win1894]

I've driven automobiles all over the world including Asia and have seen a wide variety of driving skills. My opinion is that German, French and English are the most skillful and I might even throw the Japanese in that group. Few if any of these drivers are chomping on burgers and sucking down Big Gulps, or holding a cell phone while driving. Brazilian and Southeast Asia are probably the least skillful. Drivers in the US rank towards the bottom, and Floridians are at the bottom of the US ranking - again, my opinion. When I was going for my international license in the UK, the written and practical (skill) tests were extremely difficult, and a lot of folks I know flunked and never got a lecense. In stark contrast, anyone can get a license in any state in the US, almost no skill required. I think that is, in great measure, a big part of the difference - way too many folks have licenses that shouldn't be on the roads. Besides generally demonstrating regularly a complete lack of driving finesse, driving in the left lane of a 4-lane highway, forcing other drivers to pass on the right, is my most frustrating encounter. Many states have passed laws regarding this pernicious practice. I just hope it gets enforced.

[Chatbrat]

In Germany it costs over $2k, to get a driver's license, course is a minimum of 25hrs theory, + practical and first aid instruction--all German cars are equipped with first aid kits, the license is a lifetime license, the only German cars equipped with cup holders are those for the US market--big trouble in Germany if you have anything in your hands but the steering wheel

[Two Bills]

I've driven automobiles all over the world including Asia and have seen a wide variety of driving skills. My opinion is that German, French and English are the most skillful and I might even throw the Japanese in that group. Few if any of these drivers are chomping on burgers and sucking down Big Gulps, or holding a cell phone while driving. Brazilian and Southeast Asia are probably the least skillful. Drivers in the US rank towards the bottom, and Floridians are at the bottom of the US ranking - again, my opinion. When I was going for my international license in the UK, the written and practical (skill) tests were extremely difficult, and a lot of folks I know flunked and never got a lecense. In stark contrast, anyone can get a license in any state in the US, almost no skill required. I think that is, in great measure, a big part of the difference - way too many folks have licenses that shouldn't be on the roads. Besides generally demonstrating regularly a complete lack of driving finesse, driving in the left lane of a 4-lane highway, forcing other drivers to pass on the right, is my most frustrating encounter. Many states have passed laws regarding this pernicious practice. I just hope it gets enforced.

I am from UK and my wife and I both passed our Florida driving test at the test centre in Lakeland in March 1999.
The Multiple Question test was straight forward. read up on the Code Book (specialy the DUI section) and it was not a problem. What amazed us, was if you got it wrong, the first time, you could keep on trying until you hit the pass mark!
The real eye opener was the practical driving test.
It was done in the test centre car park, and was just a few basic maneuvers, park, reverse round a corner, and an emergency stop at about 15 mph. We never went on a public highway!

As the old saying goes. "You get what you pay for!"

If the test has improved since then, it would not be before time.

[angiden]

Tennessee Ernie Ford said it best. "If you see me coming better step aside

[Mumbles]

Where you can see REALLY nasty driving is on the road from 44 South to McClure and the other small villages. Road goes from 45 to 35 to 25. Traffic goes from 55 to 55 to 55, even in 90 degree curves. What the hay are they thinking? I am hoping to go to heaven, but not on their bad driving account!

It's better to be wise than to be a wise *ss.

[Mumbles]

Hey, this is the same state that has NO necessity to check cars bound up with duct tape. My guess is that, if they made the tests very challenging, some people--who are paid very poorly for the work they do--would have to quit their jobs. When I lived outside of Jacksonville, the news told us almost every single day of death-causing crashes on the smaller highways.

[Mumbles]

I think there should be a Police cart department keeping watch on cart drivers.


Yeah, but they'd never catch anyone who has their cart's governor unplugged to be able to go up to 50 mph.

It's not always the younguns who break the driving laws. My dad used to say that wisdom comes with age. Well, hmph! If that were true across the board, many of The Villages inhabitants would be rocket scientists.

[coffeebean]

The only way to truly avoid these people is to stay home.

If you want to join the real world, accept the fact that some people are going to do things that do not meet your approval and learn how to deal with them.

People who break the law and are dangerous out there is what this discussion is about. Not meeting someone's approval is not what it is about. It is about trying to be safe on the roads.

[MoNonnon]

I was in the left lane and coming upon my exit from Buena Vista. I put my right turn signal on to move so I could exit. The guy on the right, about a car length behind me, didn’t want to let me in! So...I went over anyway. He had a fit! Waving his arms...flipping birds...lol. Really, guy?

[Chatbrat]

Happens all the time, if you encroach in their comfort zone, they throw fits, the blind spot detector on our cars tells us when its safe to change lanes-

[Ben Franklin]

I was in the left lane and coming upon my exit from Buena Vista. I put my right turn signal on to move so I could exit. The guy on the right, about a car length behind me, didn’t want to let me in! So...I went over anyway. He had a fit! Waving his arms...flipping birds...lol. Really, guy?

It wasn't me, but most rules of the road state, "You must give a proper turn signal at least 200 feet before turning or
changing lanes." A car length is about 15-18 feet. Just sayin'.

[Two Bills]

I was in the left lane and coming upon my exit from Buena Vista. I put my right turn signal on to move so I could exit. The guy on the right, about a car length behind me, didn’t want to let me in! So...I went over anyway. He had a fit! Waving his arms...flipping birds...lol. Really, guy?

One car length behind?
Seems to me you were cutting him up, rather than making a safe maneuvre.
If you were that close, why didn't you slow down, and get in behind him?

Six of one, half a dozen of the other!

[asianthree]

I was in the left lane and coming upon my exit from Buena Vista. I put my right turn signal on to move so I could exit. The guy on the right, about a car length behind me, didn’t want to let me in! So...I went over anyway. He had a fit! Waving his arms...flipping birds...lol. Really, guy?

This is what we are writing about. A car length is not enough

[Chatbrat]

If you drove in NYC 1/2 a car length is the norm--otherwise you'll never ge a chance to merge

[Two Bills]

If you drove in NYC 1/2 a car length is the norm--otherwise you'll never ge a chance to merge

Thats why anyone with half a brain cell uses public transport and cabs in NYC!!

[Tall4mom]

Golf carts are driven way too fast. Going the speed limit means nothing. Often go down Belvedere and get passed constantly. Golf carts not road licensed racing down the street outside of the golf cart lane.

[Number 10 GI]

Thats why anyone with half a brain cell uses public transport and cabs in NYC!!

That and on street parking is limited and parking garages are expensive.
I had to train a small group of new soldiers how to drive. I asked these guys why they didn't know how to drive, they were between 19 and 21. I had a license two days after I turned 16. They told me that there wasn't anywhere to park a car and if you did own one it was likely to be stolen a few days after you bought it. Subways and busses were their means of travel in the city.

[VApeople]

People who break the law and are dangerous out there is what this discussion is about.

There is nothing to discuss. We all know there are "people who break the law and are dangerous". So what? There is nothing we can do about it.

However, we can modify our behavior to minimize the chance these crazy drivers will hurt us.

[slasod]

:shocked:

[Barefoot]

Yeah, but they'd never catch anyone who has their cart's governor unplugged to be able to go up to 50 mph.I love the name you chose.

[tagjr1]

If
it's not posted as a passing lane then what?

[tagjr1]

If you are in so much of hurry then pass on the right! Oh, that's not legal? Why is it you feel you have the right to obey only some laws and not all laws?

[tagjr1]

What makes you think it was a resident who did this?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If
it's not posted as a passing lane then what?

It doesn't need to be posted. It's a given: the left lane is a passing lane, the right lane is a local/slower lane.

If you're not actively trying to pass someone OR preparing to turn left, then you don't belong in the left lane. It doesn't even matter how fast or slow you're going. Stay left to pass or turn left, stay right for everything else.

[tophcfa]

Two weekends ago my wife and myself contacted 911, we were sure we were behind a DRUNK driver-after getting in touch with dispatch- we were giving a blow by blow description of the driver almost hitting curbs , driving 10mph under the limit-we gave the dispatcher all the cross streets-we first were in touch from St. Charles and BaileyTr--followed the car onto Buena Vista , the deputy finally caught up with us as we flashed him along side Lopez Legacy--guess what the driver wasn't dunk--but was using a hand held cell phone--per the Dputy when I called the next day-

IMHO--no difference form a person DUI and another person texting and talking on a hand held phone

Totally agree, I don’t condone drinking and driving, but I would feel safer driving home after happy hour than driving home when high school gets out and all the kids are staring at their phones while driving. And please don’t use the villages app on your phone for directions in your golf cart unless you have a passenger using the phone and telling you where to go.

[ColdNoMore]

Self-explanatory.

And to be fair..."don't be that woman" either. :oops:

[golfing eagles]

I've discovered a new "law" of the road-----The overall speed of traffic on a highway is inversely proportional to the number of Priuses on that road:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

I've discovered a new "law" of the road-----The overall speed of traffic on a highway is inversely proportional to the number of Priuses on that road:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I've found that your "law" seems to apply more...to minivan drivers. :D

[PennBF]

For years I commuted back and forth to Europe both for pleasure and work. A woman in our office in Paris one time gave me 3 rules if you drive in Europe as opposed to how we drive in America. The rules are 1. Always remember no matter where you are on the road that the person on the right ALWAYS has the right away even if the vehicle is coming on the highway. A good example is if you join the crowd at the Arch De Triumph on a busy Sunday night they will keep moving right and out on the side streets and you will get out in a very organized manner. 2. Don't go into the passing lane unless you are going to pass. period 3. Don't keep looking back to your left for traffic. Because the person may be going 100MPH and you should just pay attention to the other rules. Have always followed these basic rules and never had a problem. :popcorn:

[golfing eagles]

For years I commuted back and forth to Europe both for pleasure and work. A woman in our office in Paris one time gave me 3 rules if you drive in Europe as opposed to how we drive in America. The rules are 1. Always remember no matter where you are on the road that the person on the right ALWAYS has the right away even if the vehicle is coming on the highway. A good example is if you join the crowd at the Arch De Triumph on a busy Sunday night they will keep moving right and out on the side streets and you will get out in a very organized manner. 2. Don't go into the passing lane unless you are going to pass. period 3. Don't keep looking back to your left for traffic. Because the person may be going 100MPH and you should just pay attention to the other rules. Have always followed these basic rules and never had a problem. :popcorn:

What????

I mean WHAT????

The person on the right DOES NOT ALWAYS have the right of way, ESPECIALLY when "coming on" the highway (or in TV, RB)

Please forward a schedule of where and when you will be on the road so everyone can avoid the area:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

What????

I mean WHAT????

The person on the right DOES NOT ALWAYS have the right of way, ESPECIALLY when "coming on" the highway (or in TV, RB)

Please forward a schedule of where and when you will be on the road so everyone can avoid the area:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Think the poster was referring to many years ago.
I used to drive a lot in France back in the day, and they did have a rule that traffic junctions gave priority to the right.
Not sure of the rules for the Arc de Triomphe, only went round it once, and to be honest I thought the rule there was shut your eyes and sound the horn!
They now give way to the left, as in the rest of Europe.

In Italy it was "The Fastest car wins!"

[golfing eagles]

Think the poster was referring to many years ago.
I used to drive a lot in France back in the day, and they did have a rule that traffic junctions gave priority to the right.
Not sure of the rules for the Arc de Triomphe, only went round it once, and to be honest I thought the rule there was shut your eyes and sound the horn!
They now give way to the left, as in the rest of Europe.

In Italy it was "The Fastest car wins!"

I thought so as well, except for his conclusion of "Have always followed these basic rules and never had a problem."

Perhaps the final phrase of "Have followed these basic rules in France 30 years ago and never had a problem." would have been better.

But then again , we are in TV in 2019:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

I thought so as well, except for his conclusion of "Have always followed these basic rules and never had a problem."

Perhaps the final phrase of "Have followed these basic rules in France 30 years ago and never had a problem." would have been better.

But then again , we are in TV in 2019:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

He will be fine in UK though!!

[mills3186]

Someone going around Sumter square the wrong way this morning

[joldnol]

out of state tags is a pretty good sign

[Chatbrat]

What about people who don't pull out into a multi lane intersection, in order to make a left turn, I have had to pull out & go around them, in order to make my turn, this happens @ Morse westbound and 466 & 466 A eastbound & Buena Vista--hate waiting for 2-3 lights in order to make a left turn

[dewilson58]

100 posts.


Let me summarize:


There are bad drivers every where.