Gate Passes

[Chatbrat]

Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it

[graciegirl]

Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it

We have lived here for fourteen years and never once felt opening our window to stick out our pass when it was raining was worth noting.

BUT I disdain using an umbrella. It is warm when it rains here. I have never known clothes or a car's interior to be harmed by a little rain from rolling down your window for a few seconds.

The gates are there to slow traffic so golf carts can pass, they are not there for "security" or showing off we live in a truly gated community.

[Fredman]

We have lived here for fourteen years and never once felt opening our window to stick out our pass when it was raining was worth noting.

BUT I disdain using an umbrella. It is warm when it rains here. I have never known clothes or a car's interior to be harmed by a little rain from rolling down your window for a few seconds.

The gates are there to slow traffic so golf carts can pass, they are not there for "security" or showing off we live in a truly gated community.


You tell it like it is

[Steve CT]

The OPs comment was to automate the gate opening...not remove the gates. That's what I thought I read.

[bonrich]

We do not live in a "gated community", we live in a community with gates.

[rjn5656]

sticker on car/cart would be great

[Chatbrat]

Must agree, this way , when a gate arm the "CART" could be Id'd

[bilcon]

Years ago, when we had a torrential downpour, they would raise the gates until it was over. I know that at the St. Charles gate, I can hold my card up to my closed window and it works, and yes, I have tinted windows. Should be like that everywhere.

[OhioViper]

It does seem the system is outdated. If the card worked from inside your car that would be great. Unfortunately ours doesn’t.

[BobnBev]

It all comes down to $$$$$$$. The developer isn't going to pay to make life easier for you.:ohdear:

[Altavia]

Maybe something is wrong with my card but the driver of my Bentley needs to lean way out the window for it to work :)

I'd like to see a more modern implementation for gate access but considering the cost at this point to upgrade, recognize what we have is just part of the charm of living in The Villages.

[Chatbrat]

I does work it some cars, but, all car glass is not equal, especially if your car has sound deadening glass

[anothersteve]

I don't understand the problem. Is it the trouble of lowering your power windows or the massive energy it takes to stick your hand out with card in hand?

Steve

[Chatbrat]

Getting clothing wet and water spotting the interior of your car, also if you have ventilated seats you don't water getting into the seat vents

[Chatbrat]

Just a thought when you go thru a manned gate, the operator presses a hand held device-this means that device could be paired with your car or your garage door opener-zero cost to the developer- used to do it in a community I lived in NC

[CFrance]

I does work it some cars, but, all car glass is not equal, especially if your car has sound deadening glass
My card works at some gates but not others. It used to work at Belvedere but no longer does. It has never, ever worked at St. James.


I've noted many times in the last 8 years that sticking my arm out into a torrential downpour, especially when wearing long sleeves, is very uncomfortable. If I wanted to get wet I'd go swimming.

[Topspinmo]

My card works at some gates but not others. It used to work at Belvedere but no longer does. It has never, ever worked at St. James.


I've noted many times in the last 8 years that sticking my arm out into a torrential downpour, especially when wearing long sleeves, is very uncomfortable. If I wanted to get wet I'd go swimming.

The gates should open automatically. Not fooling anybody with the red button

[Chatbrat]

And @ a manned gate, many times the attendant opens the gate for me , and as I'm entering the golf cart crossing lane a cart blows thru the STOP sign, still haven't got my quota-OH! golf cart season doesn't open till Nov 1

[vintageogauge]

The card beats punching in a 6 digit code to open the gate.

[rjm1cc]

Stickers on the car windows would be an improvement.
Since the roads are open to the public removing the gates would also be an option.

[Bogie Shooter]

It all comes down to $$$$$$$. The developer isn't going to pay to make life easier for you.:ohdear:

The developer isn't the one who would pay......

[coffeebean]

Years ago, when we had a torrential downpour, they would raise the gates until it was over. I know that at the St. Charles gate, I can hold my card up to my closed window and it works, and yes, I have tinted windows. Should be like that everywhere.

I frequent the Mallory and Odell south gates. Both gates will open when I place my gate pass to the closed window of my car. So far, anyway.

[DeanFL]

They should really open with just a credit card swipe.

That way they could Bill Gates.





sorry.

[Chatbrat]

I'm willing bet that you could pair the garage door remove that came withe average MVP door opener with the remote that the attendant uses at Belvedere, Bailey Tr, Morse Gates, etc--,again, did it in NC @ a real gated community

[birdiebill]

Stickers on the car windows would be an improvement.
Since the roads are open to the public removing the gates would also be an option.

As noted earlier, if there were no gates, golf carts would be in danger anytime they tried to cross. Autos would not even slow down. This is a golf cart community and the gates are designed to slow down autos and permit carts to cross. We all have to share the same roads.

[JoMar]

It does seem the system is outdated. If the card worked from inside your car that would be great. Unfortunately ours doesn’t.

Might depend on how close you are to the reader. Next time you drop you window and use your card note how far the card is from the reader then place your car window about the same distance from the reader and it should work. Took me awhile to figure that out but now have no issue as long as I get close to the reader.

[JoMar]

Also, at the manned gates go through the visitor side and they will open it for you.

[anothersteve]

Also, at the manned gates go through the visitor side and they will open it for you.

And then you wouldn't get wet when it's raining, common sense.
Steve

[BobnBev]

The developer isn't the one who would pay......

OK, I'll bite, bucko, exactly who would pay if not the developer.:ohdear:

[Aloha1]

We lived on Maui for 17 years in a gated community. A real gate with a call box. Transponders attached to your wind shield gave you entrance as you drove up. Here's the straight skinny: Police and Fire were given 24/7 access codes which morphed into contractors getting access codes, which morphed into a whole bunch of people getting access codes. In other words, unless you have armed guards at the gate, fugettaboutit.

[Steve CT]

Maybe use the existing technology that scans the bar code on your villages ID? Have a bar code made for vehicles and the readers at the gate updated to read them.

Just a thought

[Marathon Man]

I think that they should move the card readers back away from the road. Everyone would need to get out of their card to use the card reader. After a year, put everything back the way it is now. End of complaints.

[Polar Bear]

...End of complaints.
On ToTV?!? Good one!!! :1rotfl:

[CWGUY]

I think that they should move the card readers back away from the road. Everyone would need to get out of their card to use the card reader. After a year, put everything back the way it is now. End of complaints.

:icon_wink: Didn't you mean to put that in the JOKE THREAD? :1rotfl:

[Fast Freddy]

I totally agree with the O P, the white gate cards are totally outdated.
If we can open our garages without a card, we can open these gates without a card. Same method.
Since residents are chipping in to pay developer's road expenses, they can chip in for resident conveniences.

[twoplanekid]

I frequent the Mallory and Odell south gates. Both gates will open when I place my gate pass to the closed window of my car. So far, anyway.

Gates at both ends of Hillsborough Trail will always open when I place my gate pass to the closed window of my Honda 2017 CRV. Maybe the gates sensors in the newer areas work better than in the older sections??? I have no issues with the gates when I don't have to open a window.

[eyc234]

The Biiiiiig question is how much are you willing to spend to make this change? Nothing but complaints about taxes going up, we should pay for guest and all the new restaurants are too expensive for a "piece of meat". This is where the moderator is correct about debates, it turns into a bashing without obtaining facts, cost and following logical thought processes to determine as many causes, effects and solutions. Why is this even a subject to talk about with the other issues that should be of much more concern. A wet arm 3 times a year is not that big of a deal.

[Ooper]

It does seem the system is outdated. If the card worked from inside your car that would be great. Unfortunately ours doesn’t.

Maybe it is your card. I use my card from inside the window for most gates I go through. You do have to get fairly close but it should work!

[retiredguy123]

I totally agree with the O P, the white gate cards are totally outdated.
If we can open our garages without a card, we can open these gates without a card. Same method.
Since residents are chipping in to pay developer's road expenses, they can chip in for resident conveniences.
The white cards are not the same as a garage opener. It is easy for The Villages to control the number of cards issued, and they can deactivate lost or stolen cards. They always know how many cards are being used. A garage opener signal can be copied, with no way to determine who and how many people are using the system. Yes, there are other systems that could be used, but it may require more monitoring to keep track of who can access the gates.

[coffeebean]

We lived on Maui for 17 years in a gated community. A real gate with a call box. Transponders attached to your wind shield gave you entrance as you drove up. Here's the straight skinny: Police and Fire were given 24/7 access codes which morphed into contractors getting access codes, which morphed into a whole bunch of people getting access codes. In other words, unless you have armed guards at the gate, fugettaboutit.

in The Villages, it is not about security. It is all about slowing down the cars so the golf carts can proceed at the gates. It would be nice, however, to have some sort of reader in our car and not need to use a gate pass.

I've been delayed at the gate a few times because someone dropped their gate pass or couldn't find their gate pass or wasn't close enough to the reader......you get the point.

[coffeebean]

The white cards are not the same as a garage opener. It is easy for The Villages to control the number of cards issued, and they can deactivate lost or stolen cards. They always know how many cards are being used. A garage opener signal can be copied, with no way to determine who and how many people are using the system. Yes, there are other systems that could be used, but it may require more monitoring to keep track of who can access the gates.

Why should the amount of people who have access be monitored at all? These are public roads. Does it really matter how many people have access to our through our gates? I don't think so. As I and others have said already, it is not about security, it is about allowing the golf carts the ability to proceed at the gates.

The gates system is a great system of ensuring there is harmony on the roads between cars and golf carts.
Just wish it were easier for the drivers to proceed through the gates.

[coffeebean]

. A wet arm 3 times a year is not that big of a deal.

Honestly? Have you been here in the summer months?

[asianthree]

We lived on Maui for 17 years in a gated community. A real gate with a call box. Transponders attached to your wind shield gave you entrance as you drove up. Here's the straight skinny: Police and Fire were given 24/7 access codes which morphed into contractors getting access codes, which morphed into a whole bunch of people getting access codes. In other words, unless you have armed guards at the gate, fugettaboutit.

Since gates are only to slow down cars so golf carts have a fighting chance to cross the road, who has access is not a big deal.

What is mind boggling is at 4am the rescue truck with full lights and sirens, had to stop at the gate to push the button. Yes it only took a few seconds, but what if the button did not respond. Then running thru the closed gate works for me. Since both of us are capable of doing full compressions we can wait for the truck to push the button :MOJE_whot:

[Viperguy]

My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.

[Two Bills]

My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.

Agree, and if comming off a roundabout, in many instances you are in the guest lane anyway, and saves changing to resident lane where there is usually a queue before barrier.
Stay dry, stay warm, and use your personal gate opener!

[Parker]

I never open my window to use my gate pass. I just pull up closer to the reader and slightly wave my pass close to the window. Works just fine.

[CWGUY]

My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.

:ohdear: There are gates that are "UNMANNED" :oops:

[JSR22]

All of the gates on Canal are unmanned.

[dewilson58]

All of the gates on Canal are unmanned.




Unpersoned.

[Chatbrat]

Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts

[eyc234]

Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts

:1rotfl::1rotfl: Yeah that will work!

[ckcapaul]

Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts

Big discussion on a different post about only slowing down for stop signs. Won't work

[Rga20]

Why not use the process of exiting...when a car pulls up, the gate goes up. The only change I would recommend to accommodate the golf carts is that the gate would do a full cycle....all the way up, all the way down rather than just staying up when another car is present. This would allow carts to pass and not require driver interaction.

[asianthree]

Why not use the process of exiting...when a car pulls up, the gate goes up. The only change I would recommend to accommodate the golf carts is that the gate would do a full cycle....all the way up, all the way down rather than just staying up when another car is present. This would allow carts to pass and not require driver interaction.

Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate

[canyonblue]

Technologically this place is still in the 90's, the 1890's.

[Number 10 GI]

In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.

[billethkid]

It is very easy to suggest a different/better method of card/car reading.
What we have is probably the lowest cost method (not intended as a negative comment).

All the other auto card readers would require a change out of all the equipment at every entry point in TV....plus control center(S).

A significant expenditure to change to a "more convenient" method.

No system will satisfy the users who are for some reason always in a hurry.

Are we ready to have our amenity fees increased to pursue/purchase these new systems?

I for one am not. The current method works just fine.....most of the time.

What is needed in TV is a significant change in enforcement. The reason there are so many "moving violations" in TV.... there is no fear of enforcement.

More ticketing, escalating fines, more enforcement presence......just like the little towns everybody is familiar with....that have 25 mpg speed limits and notorious for enforcement.....everybody slows down to 25....funny how THAT WORKS!!!!

[Bogie Shooter]

Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate

Tap your brake pedal and then stop, wait 30 seconds. They should get the message.

[Bogie Shooter]

In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.

Do you have a golf cart?

[Bogie Shooter]

It is very easy to suggest a different/better method of card/car reading.
What we have is probably the lowest cost method (not intended as a negative comment).

All the other auto card readers would require a change out of all the equipment at every entry point in TV....plus control center(S).

A significant expenditure to change to a "more convenient" method.

No system will satisfy the users who are for some reason always in a hurry.

Are we ready to have our amenity fees increased to pursue/purchase these new systems?

I for one am not. The current method works just fine.....most of the time.

What is needed in TV is a significant change in enforcement. The reason there are so many "moving violations" in TV.... there is no fear of enforcement.

More ticketing, escalating fines, more enforcement presence......just like the little towns everybody is familiar with....that have 25 mpg speed limits and notorious for enforcement.....everybody slows down to 25....funny how THAT WORKS!!!!
Very good summary...........

[CWGUY]

Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate

:ohdear: There is a sign at each gate saying the gate closes after each vehicle. :popcorn:

[CWGUY]

In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.

:ohdear: And IMHO your opinion is wrong. Nobody ever said this was a gated community. The only people that think that didn't do their homework before buying and are now upset..... but not with themselves. Gates ARE there for traffic control. A long time before there ever was a Village of McClure they moved a lot of MM paths from in front of gates to behind gates for safety reasons. :ho:

[CWGUY]

Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts

:1rotfl: Wrong thread..... this is not the joke thread! :clap2:

[Barefoot]

It is very easy to suggest a different/better method of card/car reading.
What we have is probably the lowest cost method (not intended as a negative comment).

All the other auto card readers would require a change out of all the equipment at every entry point in TV....plus control center(S).

A significant expenditure to change to a "more convenient" method.

No system will satisfy the users who are for some reason always in a hurry.

Are we ready to have our amenity fees increased to pursue/purchase these new systems?

I for one am not. The current method works just fine.....most of the time.

What is needed in TV is a significant change in enforcement. The reason there are so many "moving violations" in TV.... there is no fear of enforcement.

More ticketing, escalating fines, more enforcement presence......just like the little towns everybody is familiar with....that have 25 mpg speed limits and notorious for enforcement.....everybody slows down to 25....funny how THAT WORKS!!!!
The current system may be outdated.
But like Billethkid, we're not willing to have our amenity fee increased to cover the cost of a new system. :ohdear:

[Number 10 GI]

Do you have a golf cart?

What does that have to do with what I said?

[Number 10 GI]

:ohdear: And IMHO your opinion is wrong. Nobody ever said this was a gated community. The only people that think that didn't do their homework before buying and are now upset..... but not with themselves. Gates ARE there for traffic control. A long time before there ever was a Village of McClure they moved a lot of MM paths from in front of gates to behind gates for safety reasons. :ho:

Never said it was, but the image TV wants prospective buyers to believe is that is a gated community. And what source can you provide that states the original intent of the gates was for traffic control?

[Polar Bear]

...the image TV wants prospective buyers to believe is that is a gated community...
I think that’s an opinion. The nature of the gates was never misrepresented to me.

[Bogie Shooter]

What does that have to do with what I said?

Your implying that the gates are not needed suggests you do not own a golf cart. If you did you would understand the lack of gates would force you into some serious circumstances.

Defining a source for gates as traffic control is irrelevant. Common sense would say they are.

[coffeebean]

My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.

The gates are there to slow down vehicular traffic so the golf carts can proceed on the cart path at the gates. At the present time, the gate cards is the system The Villages has for residents to open the gates.

Some posters, including myself, have voiced a wish for a new system to open the gates. As system that will eliminate the gate cards and allow the driver to go through the gates without ever having to take their hands off the steering wheel. But.......at this point and time, we must live with the gate cards.

[JoMar]

I think that’s an opinion. The nature of the gates was never misrepresented to me.

Nor I.....my sales rep made it clear that the gates were for traffic control of golf carts, bikers that use the MMP's, walkers and joggers. Also made it clear that the roads were County roads not the Developers with the exception of the Villas. He was also specific that this was NOT a controlled community and that security was our responsibility, the gates will not keep anyone out. We have been here 5 years and have never seen representation that this was a gated community.

[coffeebean]

My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.
Not all gates are manned so there is a red button to push to open the gate. If it is pouring rain, you can get a bit soaked just pushing the red button.

[retiredguy123]

When you exit a neighborhood area, you drive up to the gate and it opens automatically. If they wanted to eliminate the cards, they could use the same system at the neighborhood entrances. There would be no reason for any other system.

[coffeebean]

Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate

Do it all the time but it is not necessary to ride on the bumper of the car ahead of you. The camera at the gates can "see" you when you are pretty far back. In fact, depending on where you are located, if you sit there waiting for the gate to come down, it won't. It will stay up and bobble a bit but won't come down. That is why I just proceed behind another car through the EXIT gate without the gate coming down.

[coffeebean]

In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.

I doesn't take much to realize this is not a true gated community. When a driver can push the red button at an unmanned gate and gain entry, you must realize this is not a gated community. As someone said earlier, this is a community with gates. I will add to that, security is not the reason for the gates. What ever the original reason was for including gates in this community, I think allowing golf carts to proceed onto the golf cart paths at the gates is the one and only positive thing that comes out of having the gate system.

[CWGUY]

Your implying that the gates are not needed suggests you do not own a golf cart. If you did you would understand the lack of gates would force you into some serious circumstances.

Defining a source for gates as traffic control is irrelevant. Common sense would say they are.

:confused: What's that..... and is it allowed? :rolleyes:

[CWGUY]

I doesn't take much to realize this is not a true gated community. When a driver can push the red button at an unmanned gate and gain entry, you must realize this is not a gated community. As someone said earlier, this is a community with gates. I will add to that, security is not the reason for the gates. What ever the original reason was for including gates in this community, I think allowing golf carts to proceed onto the golf cart paths at the gates is the one and only positive thing that comes out of having the gate system.

:ho: I think another positive thing we get from the gates is - a little safety because the uninformed that don't live here might think it's a gated community. The uninformed that do live here..... well that's never going to change. :ho:

[Villageswimmer]

When you exit a neighborhood area, you drive up to the gate and it opens automatically. If they wanted to eliminate the cards, they could use the same system at the neighborhood entrances. There would be no reason for any other system.


I completely agree. And the momentary stop still allows the camera to take a picture.

[CWGUY]

Never said it was, but the image TV wants prospective buyers to believe is that is a gated community. And what source can you provide that states the original intent of the gates was for traffic control?

Gates at an entrance or at an exit are by definition a traffic control device. :)


This took 2 minutes to find on the www......


"According to the MUTCD, what are traffic control devices? "All signs, signals, markings, and other
devices used to regulate, warn, or guide traffic, placed on, over, or adjacent to a street, highway,
pedestrian facility, or bicycle path by authority of a public agency having jurisdiction." Automatically or
manually operated gates installed and operated under authorization of a public agency to control traffic
accessing public streets are considered as traffic control devices based on this definition."

[Bogie Shooter]

When you exit a neighborhood area, you drive up to the gate and it opens automatically. If they wanted to eliminate the cards, they could use the same system at the neighborhood entrances. There would be no reason for any other system.

You make a big assumption....that golf carts will stop & yield at the gates. Remember they don't have a gate!

[retiredguy123]

You make a big assumption....that golf carts will stop & yield at the gates. Remember they don't have a gate!
I don't have a golf cart, but aren't golf carts crossing the street at the car exit gates as well as entrance gates?

[Bogie Shooter]

I don't have a golf cart, but aren't golf carts crossing the street at the car exit gates as well as entrance gates?

Yep, and some don't stop and yield.

[pauld315]

[QUOTE=Chatbrat;1690011]Must agree, this way , when a gate arm the "CART" could be Id'd[/Q

Carts, with a few exceptions, never go through gates

[Number 10 GI]

Gates at an entrance or at an exit are by definition a traffic control device. :)


This took 2 minutes to find on the www......


"According to the MUTCD, what are traffic control devices? "All signs, signals, markings, and other
devices used to regulate, warn, or guide traffic, placed on, over, or adjacent to a street, highway,
pedestrian facility, or bicycle path by authority of a public agency having jurisdiction." Automatically or
manually operated gates installed and operated under authorization of a public agency to control traffic
accessing public streets are considered as traffic control devices based on this definition."

This is no proof that TV's initial purpose of the gates was for traffic control. If that was the case why do you need to use a card to enter the gate??? It could work just like the side when you leave, it automatically opens upon the approach of a vehicle. It would also be much cheaper than the system in use now. I worked with marketing types for 18 years and I know the mindset. The gates are intended to give the "impression" that this is a gated community.

[Number 10 GI]

I doesn't take much to realize this is not a true gated community. When a driver can push the red button at an unmanned gate and gain entry, you must realize this is not a gated community. As someone said earlier, this is a community with gates. I will add to that, security is not the reason for the gates. What ever the original reason was for including gates in this community, I think allowing golf carts to proceed onto the golf cart paths at the gates is the one and only positive thing that comes out of having the gate system.

Unless you live in the villages or are a contractor you won't have any idea what the red button is for. The instructions on the box says push red button for assistance, nothing about push the button for access.

[Bogie Shooter]

And if they push the red button.....they will get assistance.

[Altavia]

My former employer used the same system. There is an active card available that can be put on the inside of the windshield and will transmit 6-8 feet instead of the 12" of the proximity cards.

I think cost was in the $25 range per active card vs $1-$2 for the proximity cards. These in theory could be offered at additional cost as an upgrade to those willing to pay the cost.

[JoMar]

This is no proof that TV's initial purpose of the gates was for traffic control. If that was the case why do you need to use a card to enter the gate??? It could work just like the side when you leave, it automatically opens upon the approach of a vehicle. It would also be much cheaper than the system in use now. I worked with marketing types for 18 years and I know the mindset. The gates are intended to give the "impression" that this is a gated community.

Evidently that's your story and your sticking to it.....:)

[JoMar]

I don't have a golf cart, but aren't golf carts crossing the street at the car exit gates as well as entrance gates?

Correct, but at the exit gates they pass behind the cars, when the cars come in the carts pass in front of the cars. Also, less of sight lines on the cars coming in.

[Ooper]

Remember they don't have a gate!

There are many gates that a golf cart must go through like an automobile to enter and/or exit a village. Just saying.

[Marathon Man]

This is no proof that TV's initial purpose of the gates was for traffic control. If that was the case why do you need to use a card to enter the gate??? It could work just like the side when you leave, it automatically opens upon the approach of a vehicle. It would also be much cheaper than the system in use now. I worked with marketing types for 18 years and I know the mindset. The gates are intended to give the "impression" that this is a gated community.

Um ...

[CFrance]

I was told that TV was initially to be a gated community until they decided to give the roads over to the counties to maintain. But they kept the gates and continued to add more, maybe for continuity.

I could be wrong--everyone has a story or theory.

[Barefoot]

Even though it's not a gated community, the gates do act as a deterrent to strangers wanting access.
I've often seen people turn around before they reach the Belvedere gate, because they think they need a card to enter.

[EdFNJ]

The gates are there to slow traffic so golf carts can pass, they are not there for "security" or showing off we live in a truly gated community.
Even though it's not a gated community, the gates do act as a deterrent to strangers wanting access.
I've often seen people turn around before they reach the Belvedere gate, because they think they need a card to enter.

I started an identical thread probably a year ago and got the same response. This poster, like myself, was not asking for an ELIMINATION of gates, I LIKE GATES, ( I LIKE BEER TOO - well, that was a lie actually I hate beer :D ) but s/he is simply asking for the technology to be UPDATED. Millions can be spent repaving mailbox parking lots and golf course lots, many of which are perfect, so they might want to consider funneling some of that cash into upgrading technology to at least the late 1980's. My father's place had hands-free gate window stickers since the 1980's so all you had to do was STOP AT THE GATE, wait for it to go up, and proceed. No different than it is now. For those who like it the old way, you will have your choice. Some folks still like 8 Track players and cassettes and some prefer TIDAL for modern hi quality streaming. :D

For me it has nothing to do with getting wet, just convenience. As for "the card through the window" mine works that way 75% of the time so I don't even bother trying because cars behind me get impatient while I flail away endlessly trying to get a response from the gate. That problem does seems to depend on the specific gate. And I do get right up on it.

[pauld315]

There are many gates that a golf cart must go through like an automobile to enter and/or exit a village. Just saying.

Where exactly ? The only ones I know of are at Santiago and Alahambra. Belvedere does have a separate golf cart only gate as does the exit from Orange Blossom to outside of the Villages.

[retiredguy123]

Where exactly ? The only ones I know of are at Santiago and Alahambra. Belvedere does have a separate golf cart only gate as does the exit from Orange Blossom to outside of the Villages.
Pine Ridge

[JSR22]

Where exactly ? The only ones I know of are at Santiago and Alahambra. Belvedere does have a separate golf cart only gate as does the exit from Orange Blossom to outside of the Villages.

All the gates on Canal are shared.

[Bogie Shooter]

There are many gates that a golf cart must go through like an automobile to enter and/or exit a village. Just saying.

I was referring to cross traffic.

[ldj1938]

At one time, I've been here over 19 years, they offered the option of using a remote clicker to open the gate for $25, but nobody could afford it. Maybe they should offer it again as an option. I've saved my $25!!! I've noticed many drivers using the visitor's gate just to save wear and tear on the window...

[Altavia]

Just for grins, I taped a card under my driver's side mirror, so far so good opening gates.

[ColdNoMore]

The gates are simply an illusion, for the highly gullible...to think they live in a "gated community."

Particularly since these are all public roads.

When I occasionally need to push the red button, I don't get "assistance" from a voice...I just get the gate going up almost immediately.

Having lived in both non-gated and actual gated communities (all entrances having a human person at the gate-house) in the past, it's no big deal to me...that these are nothing more than 'fake gates.'

[John_W]

Timber Pines Community Association Home - Timber Pines Community Association (https://www.timberpines.com/)

My parents retired in 1983 about 75 minutes from here at a real gated retirement community called Timber Pines in Spring Hill. They have a masonry 6' wall around the entire 1500 acres. The only way you can really do this, is not to have any businesses inside the community, otherwise you have too many employees coming and going. As it is, they have a country club and three golf courses. So the golf courses employees and the community employees are the main gate pass users, along with the landscape people. Otherwise you don't enter unless you're accompanied by a real estate agent or a resident has left your name with the gate attendant. They have two manned gates on US Hwy 19. It seems to work very good, my parents lived there about 15 years and they really liked it.

Everything you could really need is on Hwy 19, all the familiar restaurants, Walmart, Home Depot, bowling alley, movie theater, all within ten minutes of going outside the gate. Ten minutes south is Hudson Beach and about 15 minutes south is Gulfview Mall. Four miles north is Weekie Wachee Springs, home of the mermaids and they have a man-made beach and beautiful spring water you can swim. If not for The Villages, I probably would of retired there. My dad had his own golf cart and I played the courses many times.

The homes are much cheaper. Villas are in the very low $100's and the homes are what they would call designer here, no vinyl siding, all masonry. Homes currently sell for the most part, about $140K to $300K.

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Here's an average home, this one if for sale for $229K

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One of the golf courses and club house

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[Polar Bear]

The gates are simply an illusion, for the highly gullible...to think they live in a "gated community.”...
Unbelievable.

I know it will get deleted. I just had to say it anyway.

[Marathon Man]

The gates are simply an illusion, for the highly gullible...to think they live in a "gated community."

Particularly since these are all public roads.

When I occasionally need to push the red button, I don't get "assistance" from a voice...I just get the gate going up almost immediately.

Having lived in both non-gated and actual gated communities (all entrances having a human person at the gate-house) in the past, it's no big deal to me...that these are nothing more than 'fake gates.'

Preventing golf carts from being t-boned by cars is not being gullible. Geez.

[EdFNJ]

Just for grins, I taped a card under my driver's side mirror, so far so good opening gates.
Excellent! I've been thinking of doing that for months but always afraid someone would steal it.

[ColdNoMore]

Preventing golf carts from being t-boned by cars is not being gullible. Geez.

That was not the original reason for the gates.

It was to try and pass us off (the "gullible" part) as a "gated community."

Of which, when the roads became public when sold to the county...was no longer allowed by law.

Might I also ask, how does that argument work for the plethora of locations where gates are installed...but there aren't any golf carts crossing anywhere near them?

:popcorn:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

That was not the original reason for the gates.

It was to try and pass us off (the "gullible" part) as a "gated community."

Of which, when the roads became public when sold to the county...was no longer allowed by law.

Might I also ask, how does that argument work for the plethora of locations where gates are installed...but there aren't any golf carts crossing anywhere near them?

:popcorn:

Someone is fond of presenting opinions as facts. Someone also seems to believe repetition lends credence to the argument.

[Marathon Man]

Someone is fond of presenting opinions as facts. Someone also seems to believe repetition lends credence to the argument.

Yep.

[Marathon Man]

OK, folks. If rolling down your car window in order to open the gate seems like a problem to you, then your life is truly wonderful.

[jet10s]

I have to say that the up and down of my window at the gates required me to get a new window regulator -- at a cost of almost 400 dollars -- I hate the gates and felt so happy whenever the gates are open or broken

[dewilson58]

Someone is fond of presenting opinions as facts. Someone also seems to believe repetition lends credence to the argument.






Good observation.


Thank you for not naming names.


Respectfully done.




:1rotfl:

[billethkid]

Gated?

Obviously not with homes accessible via golf courses and adjacent to access roads.....

Would the golf cart/automobile encounter, without the gates, be any different than at cross sections where golf cart paths cross public roads? Obviously not.

I would not vote for one dollar to be spent to upgrade/modernize the current gate system.

When a gate or post is knocked down, I would be in favor of replacing the gates and posts with more solid/sturdy material. Hence allowing the damage to be to the golf cart.

Maybe...MAYBE.... that would slow down those in such a hurry they ignore being careful!

[CFrance]

Gated?

Obviously not with homes accessible via golf courses and adjacent to access roads.....

Would the golf cart/automobile encounter, without the gates, be any different than at cross sections where golf cart paths cross public roads? Obviously not.

I would not vote for one dollar to be spent to upgrade/modernize the current gate system.

When a gate or post is knocked down, I would be in favor of replacing the gates and posts with more solid/sturdy material. Hence allowing the damage to be to the golf cart.

Maybe...MAYBE.... that would slow down those in such a hurry they ignore being careful!
I'm with you on the $1 for modernization.

[coffeebean]

.........When a gate or post is knocked down, I would be in favor of replacing the gates and posts with more solid/sturdy material. Hence allowing the damage to be to the golf cart.



I've been under the impression the damage to the gates is caused by vehicular traffic, not golf carts.

[CWGUY]

I've been under the impression the damage to the gates is caused by vehicular traffic, not golf carts.

:ohdear: Both!

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I've been under the impression the damage to the gates is caused by vehicular traffic, not golf carts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJTixaHac3c

[joseppe]

The Villages DOES try to add a level of security to the entry gates and does so by the use of the entry cards AND the red buttons. If the gates were ONLY for traffic control they would be just like the exit gates, drive up and they sense your presence and then open. The Entry gates can be set up to act the same way. It would still achieve traffic control were they in the 'automatic' mode. When new communities are developed they have the entry gates set just like the exit gates so I know they can be set to automatic mode.

Automatic mode would also virtually eliminate the gate collisions that require constant repair.

For some reason The Villages chooses to inflict that extra level of difficulty or control or they insist on continuing a procedure that has outlived its usefulness. Given that the gates could all be automatic what other reason would you see for still using a gate card or the red button???

[joseppe]

Several gates in the Southern Oaks Villages (Fenney, DeSoto ...) require golf carts to go through the gates.

[Silver Streak]

Transponders like the Sunpass that we could put on our dashes would be great. But of course that would mean replacing the entire infrastructure throughout TV, so would be wicked expensive.

[Villagesgal]

The cards work from inside with windows up, you just need to be very close to the pad. Ive6lived here 18 years. 4 cars between us later, never had to open the window to get gate to open. As to replacing and getting a new system. Exactly how much do you think that would cost everyone??????. What we have works just fine thank you very much.

[jgreen12]

The gate passes are the only thing I dislike about the Villages. They fall on the floor when trying to use them or can't be found. A pass attached to the window is great and would be so much easier than the card.

[jedalton]

agree

[Shetzy]

Totally agree. Time for a change.

[306 Juarez way]

The gates could be controlled just like tolls instead of a sunpass you would have a village pass located in the windshield. If it is just used to take a picture of your vehicle this would be more economical as I have seen more gates torn down!

[coffeebean]

The gate passes are the only thing I dislike about the Villages. They fall on the floor when trying to use them or can't be found. A pass attached to the window is great and would be so much easier than the card.

Agree, especially when the driver in front of you has dropped the transponder and has difficulty retrieving it. They hold up the works. Wish there was a better way.

[Denis54]

Did anybody stop and think that the gates are always down because I assume that some people just crash right through them. So what good are they ?

[retiredguy123]

I think they make gate arms that do not break off when hit, but flex back. I don't understand why they don't use that type. Seems like it would save money.

[Joanne19335]

If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it. Pin numbers, passwords, etc. are often forgotten. I agree that this is not a “gated” community and gates serve no purpose except to slow down traffic.

[wsachs]

Guess the developers did make life easier for you and others. Otherwise you'd be in a trailer/mobile home park or Top of the World, right?

[ladyarwen3]

I believe the card is an RFID card, not magnetic. So there is some security to it. Would a bar code reader be nice? or a transponder like the turnpike? Sure. It would be a greater cost which you KNOW will get passed on to us

[tammy5912554@gmail.com]

I completely agree.....it’s a no brainer .....come on let’s update this thing

[Rgarel]

Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it
IMHO, the only positive aspect of the existing gate pass system is the optics of being able to advertise that The Villages is a “gated community.” Anyone can press a red button or closely follow others through the gates without a card. Existing gates only serve to slow traffic, potentially creating bottlenecks and major difficulties for the disabled and motorcyclists. If we are serious about limiting access, the gate systems must be more robust, without button entry and with penalties (perhaps from license photos) for illegal entry.

[SouthJerseyGirl]

Wouldn’t it be nice NOT to have to fumble around for your gate card that fell to the car floor? Wouldn’t it be nice NOT to have to roll down your window when coming and going? Wouldn’t it be nice to have a bar code reader scan the decal on your car and automatically lift the gate? One can wish...

[michellevanhaste]

Agreed 100%

[Altavia]

The Villages DOES try to add a level of security to the entry gates and does so by the use of the entry cards AND the red buttons. If the gates were ONLY for traffic control they would be just like the exit gates, drive up and they sense your presence and then open. The Entry gates can be set up to act the same way. It would still achieve traffic control were they in the 'automatic' mode. When new communities are developed they have the entry gates set just like the exit gates so I know they can be set to automatic mode.

Automatic mode would also virtually eliminate the gate collisions that require constant repair.

For some reason The Villages chooses to inflict that extra level of difficulty or control or they insist on continuing a procedure that has outlived its usefulness. Given that the gates could all be automatic what other reason would you see for still using a gate card or the red button???

Switching to automatic mode would also be an operational cost reduction eliminating the need to manage and issue cards.

[mike519]

Could license plate readers be used to open the gates? The existing cards could still be used for golf carts, new arrivals, etc.

[John_W]

I haven't seen this mentioned, but when you go through a gate your license plate is photographed. The police have used this info to solve burglaries in the past. I can remember a few times when appliances were stolen out of new homes in Pine Ridge and Pine Hills they were able to track down the thieves.

[Denvercane]

Great idea. Save your door window motor and you don't have to get wet when raining

[DebiRowen]

I totally agree. Why can't we have stickers on our cars instead of trying to remember a card? We have three cars, so I don't keep my card in the car. It's usually in my purse, which means I have to dig to find it. Sometimes my purse is in the back seat and I have to reach to get it. What a pain that can be avoided with a simple change!!!!

[len84pa]

My card works at all gates from inside the car as long as you are close enough to the reader. Watch out for your mirror! Maybe the cards could be made with a stronger signal and those residents who wish to have one to use inside their car could purchase it for a small fee.

[EVH234591]

:spoken:sticker on car/cart would be great

I agree , a sticker on car and cart would be a great convenience.

[Dennys37Packard]

Ours works from inside a closed window with no problem, with all but about two gates. You just need to pull a little closer, hold the card for a full second or two without moving and at the same level of grey pad. Usually you can see the little light blink when it registers.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it

How do you keep your clothing and interior dry when you have to open the whole door at the club, store, restaurant, etc?

[dmorhome]

I have a card reader from Tamper that works on the villages gates. so much for security.They should have a reader like the Highways have that can read you at 65mph
get with the times.I am sure there is something that can be done to avoid wearing out our window motors.What does the Fire Dept use to open the gates, that's a long reach from a fire truck cab.Come on The Villages spend some of your profits.There I am done.

[butchnharri]

Before moving to the Villages, we lived in Cape Coral Florida and you had to go over a bridge to get into Cape Coral. We had to buy a transponder to stick to the inside front window behind rear view mirror and pay in advance to go through. It was very handy, no opening the window when it was HOT or Raining. Basically it was a Sun Pass. I think that would be a great thing for the villages.

[Shelley72]

Keep the card or something similar. Not everyone has a vehicle or can drive and must rely on others to take them places or family members that won't have barcodes on their cars or things linked their cars. Not everyone has cars that link up to their homes. What about the golf cart Gates? You can't drive your car through there you have to have something to get through the gates! I think it would become too inconvenient for a lot of people.

[bilcon]

Why is this topic on again as new. It was the same posts several weeks ago.

[Siegfried]

Excellent suggestion. A presently constituted we have no security save this illusionary symbol.

[EdFNJ]

Why is this topic on again as new. It was the same posts several weeks ago.

You'll always get the same threads week after week here. Gates, dog poop, poor drivers, roundabouts, costco etc. That's the way it is. It's also weird how suddenly 4 or 5 posts in a row from users with only 1 or 2 posts posted minutes apart suddenly appear in some threads.

But to keep on topic I agree 100% with some sort of "minimal technology upgrade" to the gate system just to make it a bit more CONVENIENT to use. Waving it through a closed window does often work but cars behind get very impatient when it sometimes takes 5 seconds to "connect" with the card reader. I guess the answer (when available) is to use the manned(womaned) "visitor" side where no card is needed and to keep the gate people busy. :D

[Bogie Shooter]

I have a card reader from Tamper that works on the villages gates. so much for security.They should have a reader like the Highways have that can read you at 65mph
get with the times.I am sure there is something that can be done to avoid wearing out our window motors.What does the Fire Dept use to open the gates, that's a long reach from a fire truck cab.Come on The Villages spend some of your profits.There I am done.

When did the districts start making a profit?

[jjombrello]

You tell it like it is
In 21 years, I have never had a problem actuating the gate arm by holding the plastic card up to my unopened window. I do agree that the system could use an update and window or car sticker might be an option.

[merrymini]

I do not always appreciate it when there is a long line to get through the gates for residents but guests breeze through the open guest gate. Does that make any sense?

[Cmione]

You don't even have to roll down your window. If you get close enough, the card works through the glass. I have never had to roll down my window.

[Bridget Staunton]

We don’t think the gates provide any security, the cameras are there for that reason. Take the gates down.
If not inputting that code into our garage door opener is a good idea

[OhioBuckeye]

Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it
I had a gate card that we got in 2012 that wouldn’t open the cart gate in Orange Blossom just over the cart bridge, that takes you to Lowe’s. But it would open all the gates in TV.

[billethkid]

The Villages DOES try to add a level of security to the entry gates and does so by the use of the entry cards AND the red buttons. If the gates were ONLY for traffic control they would be just like the exit gates, drive up and they sense your presence and then open. The Entry gates can be set up to act the same way. It would still achieve traffic control were they in the 'automatic' mode. When new communities are developed they have the entry gates set just like the exit gates so I know they can be set to automatic mode.

Automatic mode would also virtually eliminate the gate collisions that require constant repair.

For some reason The Villages chooses to inflict that extra level of difficulty or control or they insist on continuing a procedure that has outlived its usefulness. Given that the gates could all be automatic what other reason would you see for still using a gate card or the red button???

None!!

[NavyVet]

The fact is there is no consistency in the "sensitivity" of the gates, so individual results will vary. Some gates will read your card through the window, which also depends apparently on different models/windows. Some don't work no matter how close you get. Have had several different vehicles since 2003 and the only gate that consistently worked was Springdale. Some gates, especially south of 466, you have to hold the card literally within 6 inches of the reader and that's with arm out the open window. You would be scraping your mirror to get that close with window closed. I have witnessed people holding their card with arm completely extended and not reach close enough to trigger the release. You have to be pretty close to it. Heaven forbid the card slips through your fingers and lands outside the vehicle. You wouldn't able to even open the door to retrieve it, as you have to be so damn close. I'm sure many of us as seen that happen numerous times. For the lucky few who never have to roll down their window, I'm happy for you.
Getting soaked only 3 times a year at the gates, wow, that would be a miracle. They must never leave the house or not live here during the summer. Fact: it rains here; a lot, heavily, often. Odds of getting caught in rain at the gates if you are out and about a lot are more like 300 times a year. Fact: only certain gates have a guard, many do not. Back when TV was much smaller, they used to leave ALL gates UP during thunderstorms and pouring rain.
Personally, I could not care any less if my arm gets wet. What is more concerning is that by the time the window rolls completely down, the box finally reads the card and the window rolls back up, the inside of your door, WHERE ALL THE SWITCHES AND ELECTRONICS for your doors, windows and mirrors, etc. are sitting, gets drenched. Should not have to constantly carry towels to dry off the insides of your cars.
I realize this is all to regulate traffic, but IMHO, this system kind of sucks and there has to be better and easier methods out there. The subject is a common pet peeve for many residents. Have a peaceful and stress free day!

[Kassey]

Its about time that our gate passes get caught up with the 21st century--magnetic cards were good in the 1980's; but today there are way better alternatives.

Bar codes, or synch to your garage door opener or your car's "homelink"

Its a real pleasure to subject your clothing and your car's interior to a deluge to swipe apiece of plastic which has "ZERO" security associate with it

A decal on a windshield or golf cart would be more efficient.

[eyc234]

Just came back from beach in St Pete for the weekend, had to roll down my window coming back into TV and got a sunburn from the bright sun. Not sure which is worse the wet arm or the sunburn!!!! I know I am being snarky but is this the best issue that we have in TV that we need 16 pages worth of discussion. This seems to be an issue something like the dreaded Rec News. Said then and will say it again, if it is so easy, so cheap and so many villagers give a rats pattuty about it, get together and present it to a company to submit a plan to the CDD's and get er done. Oh yeah have money to finance it!!

[Bogie Shooter]

I do not always appreciate it when there is a long line to get through the gates for residents but guests breeze through the open guest gate. Does that make any sense?

Leave the house 10 minutes earlier...………………...:)

[Marathon Man]

I do not always appreciate it when there is a long line to get through the gates for residents but guests breeze through the open guest gate. Does that make any sense?

Nothing prevents you from going through the visitor gate.

[Dave@TV]

Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts

Cars and carts don't stop for any stop signs now. Imagine what it would be like at the busier car/cart crossings if there were no gates.
:pray:

[EdFNJ]

J I know I am being snarky but is this the best issue that we have in TV that we need 16 pages worth of discussion. Absolutely not but SO WHAT? :D There are multiple "bad driver" threads, "dog poop" threads, "Costco" threads, ad nauseum "roundabout" threads and umpteen other constantly repeated threads so why not one of these every couple months. ;) Very simple to just not read what doesn't interest or bores anyone.

[billethkid]

Absolutely not but SO WHAT? :D There are multiple "bad driver" threads, "dog poop" threads, "Costco" threads, ad nauseum "roundabout" threads and umpteen other constantly repeated threads so why not one of these every couple months. ;) Very simple to just not read what doesn't interest or bores anyone.

Yes how very simple that is!!!!!!! However like stop signs in TV....it doesn't work.

It always amazes me when people see or hear something they do not like, yet they continue to go back and continue to :blahblahblah::blahblahblah: about that which they do not like.

Now why is that?

[Altavia]

Nothing prevents you from going through the visitor gate.

What's the distinction between a resident and visitor gate?

I mostly see people in a hurry use the visitor gate and drag race to get ahead of the person using the resident gate. :1rotfl:

[Barefoot]

Yes how very simple that is!!!!!!! However like stop signs in TV....it doesn't work.
It always amazes me when people see or hear something they do not like, yet they continue to go back and continue to :blahblahblah::blahblahblah: about that which they do not like. Now why is that?:shrug:

[coffeebean]

What is more concerning is that by the time the window rolls completely down, the box finally reads the card and the window rolls back up, the inside of your door, WHERE ALL THE SWITCHES AND ELECTRONICS for your doors, windows and mirrors, etc. are sitting, gets drenched.

Agree very strongly on this issue. I've always been very wary about opening the window during a thunder storm when the rain is pouring down. Not good for the electronics of the car that are susceptible to moisture.

[JoMar]

Agree very strongly on this issue. I've always been very wary about opening the window during a thunder storm when the rain is pouring down. Not good for the electronics of the car that are susceptible to moisture.

And as stated before, pull close to the reader and it will read through your window if you hold it inline with the reader or, go through the visitors side at a manned gate. Never a reason to drop your window and get water inside.

[Bryan]

If you want to gripe about outdated technology, that is all well and good but at least get the technology correct. We do not have any "magnetic strip" gate cards in The Villages. Our gate cards are all RFID cards (Radio Frequency Identification) - no magnetism involved.

[coffeebean]

And as stated before, pull close to the reader and it will read through your window if you hold it inline with the reader or, go through the visitors side at a manned gate. Never a reason to drop your window and get water inside.
I have no problem pulling close to the reader so I do not have to open my car window. However, there are many folks who have a difficult time positioning the car close enough to the reader. We are a community of seniors and I understand why so many people are afraid to try to get so close to the reader. Opening the car window during a heavy rain may be a problem for those folks who are unable to pull close enough to the reader.

[Chatbrat]

always use the visitor gate, two reasons--want to keep the wear & tear on my window mechanism--always keep it up, also in the visitor side I'm going straight & not merging from the right

Another reason I get a friendly wave thru most of the time

[graciegirl]

Trying to think in real time how often this awful water onslaught happens.

In the summer, rains occur almost always between three and five in the afternoon.

In the winter, we have very little rain.

I think how it is set up is fine. Changing any procedures like this may sound simple, but in fact they entail a huge outlay of cash and ultimately WE pay for it.

An economics course should be required for everyone.

Good morning. It's going to be another beautiful day in The Villages.

[Ndomines]

GATE PASS ABUSE
This has me bugged! We went to Stonecrest to look at a house for sale
The agent told us that driving our golf cart into The Villages and using the
Cart path was easy.
She said just get a Villages friend to get an extra pass and let you keep it.
Seriously! Who is paying for this?
Additionally this agent spent a good deal of time telling us everything that
(In her view) is wrong with THE VILLAGES.
SO WHY is she telling folks in Stonecrest to get gate passes from Village residents?

[JoMar]

GATE PASS ABUSE
This has me bugged! We went to Stonecrest to look at a house for sale
The agent told us that driving our golf cart into The Villages and using the
Cart path was easy.
She said just get a Villages friend to get an extra pass and let you keep it.
Seriously! Who is paying for this?
Additionally this agent spent a good deal of time telling us everything that
(In her view) is wrong with THE VILLAGES.
SO WHY is she telling folks in Stonecrest to get gate passes from Village residents?

Because TV access helps sell homes in Stonecrest.

[EdFNJ]

Yes how very simple that is!!!!!!! However like stop signs in TV....it doesn't work.

It always amazes me when people see or hear something they do not like, yet they continue to go back and continue to :blahblahblah::blahblahblah: about that which they do not like.

Now why is that?


Because we/you/they can and it's included in the price of admission??

[retiredguy123]

GATE PASS ABUSE
This has me bugged! We went to Stonecrest to look at a house for sale
The agent told us that driving our golf cart into The Villages and using the
Cart path was easy.
She said just get a Villages friend to get an extra pass and let you keep it.
Seriously! Who is paying for this?
Additionally this agent spent a good deal of time telling us everything that
(In her view) is wrong with THE VILLAGES.
SO WHY is she telling folks in Stonecrest to get gate passes from Village residents?
I don't have a golf cart, but can't you go just about anywhere in The Villages without a gate pass, except the residential areas? Access to the rec centers requires a resident ID.

[tikigal]

I believe you are correct. We are living in the dark ages with a plastic card. My parents moved in to The Plantations in Leesburg in 2002 with a bar code on their window. Especially in the rain, what a disaster. I've seen people not able to reach the card scanner, open their car door, and watch items tumbling out of their car, (purses, including people!!)
Letting everyone in by pressing a button is just not "Safe!"
All legitimate businesses should file for a sticker to be scanned, and all guests should have to talk to someone as they press the button to see a resident in that community by speaking with a Village employee, like most communities do outside of The Villages.

[billethkid]

I believe you are correct. We are living in the dark ages with a plastic card. My parents moved in to The Plantations in Leesburg in 2002 with a bar code on their window. Especially in the rain, what a disaster. I've seen people not able to reach the card scanner, open their car door, and watch items tumbling out of their car, (purses, including people!!)
Letting everyone in by pressing a button is just not "Safe!"
All legitimate businesses should file for a sticker to be scanned, and all guests should have to talk to someone as they press the button to see a resident in that community by speaking with a Village employee, like most communities do outside of The Villages.

Like it or not all of us live on public streets!
The Villages is not and never was a gated community!!!!

[anothersteve]

I don't have a golf cart, but can't you go just about anywhere in The Villages without a gate pass, except the residential areas?

Use the visitors gate or just press the red button on the right side access. All villages are accessible.

[Marathon Man]

I believe you are correct. We are living in the dark ages with a plastic card. My parents moved in to The Plantations in Leesburg in 2002 with a bar code on their window. Especially in the rain, what a disaster. I've seen people not able to reach the card scanner, open their car door, and watch items tumbling out of their car, (purses, including people!!)
Letting everyone in by pressing a button is just not "Safe!"
All legitimate businesses should file for a sticker to be scanned, and all guests should have to talk to someone as they press the button to see a resident in that community by speaking with a Village employee, like most communities do outside of The Villages.

If you feel unsafe in your home, maybe you should consider a community that is truly gated.

[Mumbles]

Years ago, when we had a torrential downpour, they would raise the gates until it was over. I know that at the St. Charles gate, I can hold my card up to my closed window and it works, and yes, I have tinted windows. Should be like that everywhere.

Now THAT is a super idea. :a040: I have gotten truly drenched three times so far because at the time, the rain was coming down sideways. Holding up your gate card makes so much sense. It's not a question of ignoring the rain; it's a question of moving ahead with newer electronics and, as a result, better results.

[Mumbles]

I don't understand the problem. Is it the trouble of lowering your power windows or the massive energy it takes to stick your hand out with card in hand?

Steve

Some people, I'm afraid, love to shower before they get home.:1rotfl:

[Mumbles]

Swell idea!

[Mumbles]

The Biiiiiig question is how much are you willing to spend to make this change? Nothing but complaints about taxes going up, we should pay for guest and all the new restaurants are too expensive for a "piece of meat". This is where the moderator is correct about debates, it turns into a bashing without obtaining facts, cost and following logical thought processes to determine as many causes, effects and solutions. Why is this even a subject to talk about with the other issues that should be of much more concern. A wet arm 3 times a year is not that big of a deal.

C'mon, now. The entire UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was created over massive debates. I grant that a rain-soaked sleeve will probably not be the end of the world as we know it. But, I, for one, enjoy all the different viewpoints expressed in this forum. Enough of the Status Quo; charge ahead.

[Curtisbwp]

We have lived here for fourteen years and never once felt opening our window to stick out our pass when it was raining was worth noting.

BUT I disdain using an umbrella. It is warm when it rains here. I have never known clothes or a car's interior to be harmed by a little rain from rolling down your window for a few seconds.

The gates are there to slow traffic so golf carts can pass, they are not there for "security" or showing off we live in a truly gated community.
I agree, been here since 2003, a little rain is not devastating to normal people. Wa wa wa on those that think otherwise. My gate pass has worked well for 15 years. Why change something that works very well

[edjoe326]

The only reason their are gates is to slow traffic down and to possibly to photo the license plate , Unless there are "other" reasons we SHOULD NOT need a card to go thru , which is annoying , eliminate the need for cards and set the sensors on the gates to open automatically when a car approaches ! DURR