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bobmacc
10-26-2019, 12:16 PM
The Villages Water Dept has told us they need to break up and re-pour a 5'x8' section of our new home's concrete driveway to install a neighborhood shutoff valve. Seems they paved over the water main when building our new home in July.
Anyone else hear of such a request by The Villages? Needless to say, we're surprised by this request.

blueash
10-26-2019, 01:14 PM
The Villages Water Dept has told us they need to break up and re-pour a 5'x8' section of our new home's concrete driveway to install a neighborhood shutoff valve. Seems they paved over the water main when building our new home in July.
Anyone else hear of such a request by The Villages? Needless to say, we're surprised by this request.

This is a new one. Makes you wonder
1. How did the installation pass inspection in the first place?
2. What happened so many months later that they just figured it out?
3. Why would a neighborhood shut off be under a driveway? Seems if you wanted to shut off a neighborhood you'd like rapid access to the control valve?

Papa
10-26-2019, 01:58 PM
The Villages Water Dept has told us they need to break up and re-pour a 5'x8' section of our new home's concrete driveway to install a neighborhood shutoff valve. Seems they paved over the water main when building our new home in July.
Anyone else hear of such a request by The Villages? Needless to say, we're surprised by this request.

It happened in our neighborhood about 8 years ago, after the house was built (not ours), but while the rest of the street was still in Development.
The word on the street was that they needed to dig up the driveway because the plans had been changed to move the garage to the other side of the lot, in which case, it would not have been under the driveway. Someone dropped the ball when the house plans were modified.

Bogie Shooter
10-26-2019, 02:06 PM
They are going to dig it up, install valve and re-pour.
So what is the problem?

mulligan
10-26-2019, 02:23 PM
A patch will always look like a patch. Colors will never match. Unfortunately, they do have right of way 10 to 15 feet wide along the paved road. They can do it without your permission. Be nice, and you might get a neat looking job.

New Englander
10-26-2019, 02:53 PM
A patch will always look like a patch. Colors will never match. Unfortunately, they do have right of way 10 to 15 feet wide along the paved road. They can do it without your permission. Be nice, and you might get a neat looking job.

Exactly, it will never look the same as the rest of the driveway.

Altavia
10-26-2019, 03:47 PM
Maybe discuss if concerned and ask to do the whole drive to mitigate the cosmetic risk?

The incremental cost to do the entire drive once the crew is there could be relatively small.

thelegges
10-26-2019, 06:31 PM
We received a notice that a section of our drive might need to be removed for a repair. Previous owner had painted a brick design. We were not a fan, it is costly to repair, resealing and general maintenance.
The concrete, would be replaced, but is was our responsibility to put design back. Since that part of the drive is in the set backs it’s your property to maintain, but really don’t own it.

Topspinmo
10-26-2019, 11:06 PM
Exactly, it will never look the same as the rest of the driveway.

Would that be out of compliance?

Topspinmo
10-26-2019, 11:11 PM
Exactly, it will never look the same as the rest of the driveway.

If it’s just concrete, it not that old so the new patch won’t be much different and soon blend in. Not like most older driveways has water spots from irrigation spraying on driveway aNd running down the street and causing mold

Two Bills
10-27-2019, 04:25 AM
Somewhere, someone fouled up, why should OP expect to accept a patched drive, concrete or not, on a new build.
They could redo the lot, or at least back to the first expansion gap.
No way would I accept a patch, and I hope the OP doesn't.

karostay
10-27-2019, 06:38 AM
The Villages Water Dept has told us they need to break up and re-pour a 5'x8' section of our new home's concrete driveway to install a neighborhood shutoff valve. Seems they paved over the water main when building our new home in July.
Anyone else hear of such a request by The Villages? Needless to say, we're surprised by this request.

Can't they simply just place new shutoff on an unpaved section of your property ? Leaving the existing shutoff open ?
Shutoff is a Shutoff

graciegirl
10-27-2019, 08:26 AM
The Villages Water Dept has told us they need to break up and re-pour a 5'x8' section of our new home's concrete driveway to install a neighborhood shutoff valve. Seems they paved over the water main when building our new home in July.
Anyone else hear of such a request by The Villages? Needless to say, we're surprised by this request.

I am surprised by it too. I have NEVER heard of such a thing happening. Show us a picture afterwards.

I am skeptical.

New Englander
10-27-2019, 11:16 AM
Would that be out of compliance?

I don't know.

Papa
10-27-2019, 12:18 PM
The house by us whose driveway was dug up when the original plans were changed to move the garage to the other side. It was NOT to install a new shutoff valve. What had happened was they paved over an existing Shutoff Valve, and could not leave a valve covered by concrete.

bagboy
10-27-2019, 12:28 PM
This effort should involve Home Warranty and the builder of the home. The water company is going to do what it needs to do. That said, the OP should expect a satisfactory resolution to this.

coffeebean
10-28-2019, 06:09 AM
Exactly, it will never look the same as the rest of the driveway.

Pavers over the concrete will make it all look the same.

coffeebean
10-28-2019, 06:15 AM
The house by us whose driveway was dug up when the original plans were changed to move the garage to the other side. It was NOT to install a new shutoff valve. What had happened was they paved over an existing Shutoff Valve, and could not leave a valve covered by concrete.

This is what confuses me about the OP's claim. OP says The Villages wants to dig up their driveway to install a shut off valve for the neighborhood. That goes against logic and also goes against what the above poster says.

karostay
10-28-2019, 07:10 AM
Beginning to think theirs more to the OP's claim

New Englander
10-28-2019, 10:12 AM
Pavers over the concrete will make it all look the same.

Very true! But, pray tell who will pay for the pavers?

coffeebean
10-28-2019, 09:01 PM
Very true! But, pray tell who will pay for the pavers?

The homeowner, who else?

Our concrete for our driveway and walkway to the front door was subjected to rain before it was cured (probably the day it was poured). We have been told that rain is what caused the terrible uneven color in the concrete.

We purchased the home from the original homeowners with the concrete in this condition. We knew the concrete was going to need a re-surfacing job of some sort. Can't wait to cover up that unsightly concrete.