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Guest
06-23-2010, 09:45 PM
The unfortunate public airing of what may or may not have been General McChrystal's innermost thoughts presented another difficult decision for the President.

By removing McChrystal and appointing Petreaus within hours of when the problem surfaced, Obama acquitted himself well. He showed respect for the command by waiting to personally meet with the commander, then appointed the best replacement possible. This swift, sound decision making has defused potential chaos in what is clearly an even far more more delicate situation than the agonizing oil spill.

For those who are so furious at every action of the President, I submit that this, like other decisions I have cited, is another example of very good, perhaps even courageous leadership.

Guest
06-23-2010, 10:07 PM
Leading us where??

McCrystal has been replaced with the general that Obama as Senator called an "utter failure" in his mission in Iraq and now this is his man. Read the transcripts and see how Obama vilified "General Betrayus", which I thought was despicable then and still do and only point out to show the duplicity of the President.

Now we have a ill-conceived deadline to get out of Afghanistan and a new commander who supposed to wrap it up in 11 months?

Lead Us??? Please.

Guest
06-23-2010, 10:14 PM
The unfortunate public airing of what may or may not have been General McChrystal's innermost thoughts presented another difficult decision for the President.

By removing McChrystal and appointing Petreaus within hours of when the problem surfaced, Obama acquitted himself well. He showed respect for the command by waiting to personally meet with the commander, then appointed the best replacement possible. This swift, sound decision making has defused potential chaos in what is clearly an even far more more delicate situation than the agonizing oil spill.

For those who are so furious at every action of the President, I submit that this, like other decisions I have cited, is another example of very good, perhaps even courageous leadership.

Even a broken clock is right twice each day.

Yoda

Guest
06-24-2010, 05:02 AM
The unfortunate public airing of what may or may not have been General McChrystal's innermost thoughts presented another difficult decision for the President.

By removing McChrystal and appointing Petreaus within hours of when the problem surfaced, Obama acquitted himself well. He showed respect for the command by waiting to personally meet with the commander, then appointed the best replacement possible. This swift, sound decision making has defused potential chaos in what is clearly an even far more more delicate situation than the agonizing oil spill.

For those who are so furious at every action of the President, I submit that this, like other decisions I have cited, is another example of very good, perhaps even courageous leadership.


I have absolutely no problem with the actions of the President in this situation ,but welcome you to come back and post when questions are asked of you and especially when this President "leads again" !!!

Your appearences are predictable and your lack is also !!

Guest
06-24-2010, 07:17 AM
The unfortunate public airing of what may or may not have been General McChrystal's innermost thoughts presented another difficult decision for the President.

By removing McChrystal and appointing Petreaus within hours of when the problem surfaced, Obama acquitted himself well. He showed respect for the command by waiting to personally meet with the commander, then appointed the best replacement possible. This swift, sound decision making has defused potential chaos in what is clearly an even far more more delicate situation than the agonizing oil spill.

For those who are so furious at every action of the President, I submit that this, like other decisions I have cited, is another example of very good, perhaps even courageous leadership.

Do you actually believe BH wrote the words he read and made the decision he read?

Guest
06-24-2010, 07:18 AM
Don't kid yourself... Obama is not a leader! Even Valerie Jarrett, co-chair of Obama's transitiion team told Tom Borkaw that he will take power and be ready to rule from day one. When I went to school, presidents lead... dictators rule!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Nlq80DVpo

Guest
06-24-2010, 07:53 AM
As you said, "The unfortunate public airing of what may or may not have been General McChrystal's innermost thoughts," in a music magazine doesn't, IMHO, become a crucial test of Obama's leadership.

I also don't agree that, as you said, "this...is another example of very good, perhaps even courageous leadership..."

McChrystal seems to have a grasp of conditions on the ground in Washington and conditions in Kabul. I did read the article, more than once. Obama said his problem with McChrystal is that the article, "...undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system."

Obama's politically correct view of the military kowtowing to special interest groups at the risk of troops lives is exactly what RollingStone magazine made it appear were McChrystal's innermost thoughts. That is more important in all of this than did Obama show courageous leadership in accepting McChrystal's resignation. Obama did act swiftly and professionally with his remarks.

Guest
06-24-2010, 08:40 AM
I have absolutely no problem with the actions of the President in this situation ,but welcome you to come back and post when questions are asked of you and especially when this President "leads again" !!!

Your appearences are predictable and your lack is also !!

Thankfully, I have a very busy, wonderfully full life. I haven't near the amount of time many others do to devote to this forum. Hope you don't continue to hold that against me.

Guest
06-24-2010, 08:46 AM
Do you actually believe BH wrote the words he read and made the decision he read?

Does it matter who wrote the words? Yes, I actually do believe the President made the decision.
Who do you think made the decision?

Guest
06-24-2010, 12:25 PM
Thankfully, I have a very busy, wonderfully full life. I haven't near the amount of time many others do to devote to this forum. Hope you don't continue to hold that against me.

Ouch. Makes me want to get a job so that my words will have value. Sorry. Been there. Done that.

Yoda

Guest
06-24-2010, 01:04 PM
Obama's leadership seems to be to hire George W. Bush's general, who his supporters vilified in the past, and who now think his appointment was "brilliant", as said by every talking head this morning.

What choice does Obama have but to give Petraeus whatever he wants to do the job he's just been appointed to perform?

I'm smiling a bit at the realization that the Obama decision that all his supporters are calling brilliant and an example of his leadership qualities is to follow the example of George W. Bush and appoint Petraeus to administer the war on the ground.

Guest
06-24-2010, 01:27 PM
Does it matter who wrote the words? Yes, I actually do believe the President made the decision.
Who do you think made the decision?

The committee made up of the Chicago crowd, probably Soros and all those who own BH. How can a Teacher and Community Radicals Organizer have the moxie to make these kinds of decisions?

Guest
06-24-2010, 02:06 PM
Obama's leadership seems to be to hire George W. Bush's general, who his supporters vilified in the past, and who now think his appointment was "brilliant", as said by every talking head this morning.

What choice does Obama have but to give Petraeus whatever he wants to do the job he's just been appointed to perform?

I'm smiling a bit at the realization that the Obama decision that all his supporters are calling brilliant and an example of his leadership qualities is to follow the example of George W. Bush and appoint Petraeus to administer the war on the ground.

Yeh... just goes to show that they change the rules to suit themselves. Obama and his supporters don't know what they want, and when this community organizer makes decisions that affect the lives of our American mena and women, it just boggles my mind!

Guest
06-24-2010, 04:40 PM
While Obama is acting like Bush, he does have the advantage of not having Senator Obama to deal with.
:agree::coolsmiley::1rotfl::a20:

Guest
06-24-2010, 04:55 PM
Thankfully, I have a very busy, wonderfully full life. I haven't near the amount of time many others do to devote to this forum. Hope you don't continue to hold that against me.

Actually, your sarcasm does not surprise me at all....sort of the cornerstone of most of your posts.

Not that I need to get into a $$%^^ contest with you, but I also have a busy wonderful life and work three days a week for whatever that is worth.

Your jump to defend and your sarcasm is just one of those things that come with your posts !

Again, congratulations on your wonderful life and my wishes to all of us who are not as blessed as you that someday we make it to your level !

Guest
06-24-2010, 09:19 PM
Poor, poor Obama.

Wonder who will replace Petraeus, if he "hurts" Obama's feelings?

An article published in a magazine that NO ONE reads (consisting of a few negative remarks) and suddenly the POTUS calls for the resignation of General McChrystal?

Once again, Obama has demonstrated that he is unqualified to serve this country as our C in C.

Removing a highly competent general from the battlefield during wartime is indefensible.

Surely, no one is surprised that Obama's approval ratings continue to plummet day by day.

Wonder if General McChrystal will vote for Obama....next time around?

Guest
06-24-2010, 09:25 PM
And the trend continues:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Guest
06-24-2010, 09:34 PM
"I'm smiling a bit at the realization that the Obama decision that all his supporters are calling brilliant and an example of his leadership qualities is to follow the example of George W. Bush and appoint Petraeus to administer the war on the ground."


My sentiments exactly. In fact, I do believe I can hear GW "laughing" all the way from Dallas!

Guest
06-25-2010, 08:26 AM
Rolling Stone has a circulation of 1.4 million so I would say "no one" reads it. Now, add all the people who heard of it because of the remarks.

Guest
06-25-2010, 12:04 PM
Poor, poor Obama.

Wonder who will replace Petraeus, if he "hurts" Obama's feelings?

An article published in a magazine that NO ONE reads (consisting of a few negative remarks) and suddenly the POTUS calls for the resignation of General McChrystal?

Once again, Obama has demonstrated that he is unqualified to serve this country as our C in C.

Removing a highly competent general from the battlefield during wartime is indefensible.

Surely, no one is surprised that Obama's approval ratings continue to plummet day by day.

Wonder if General McChrystal will vote for Obama....next time around?

I don’t believe you familiar with military structure. Insubordination at any grade level in the military is a very serious offense. Public criticism of superiors does nothing but undermine the stability and trust of troops under command. Not only is Obama’s action in this particular case defensible but anything less would have had a detrimental effect on those who serve. His “hurt” feelings or one’s personal pro/con Obama stance make little difference – his decision in this instance was correct.

Guest
06-27-2010, 10:47 PM
General McChrystal's ouster was based upon a lie. There is NOTHING in the article that suggests even the slightest hint of "insubordination" by General McChrystal.

The article was a piece of garbage written by a low life "journalist" who took (what were meant to be "off the record") remarks made by some staffers and then printed them without bothering to check for accuracy.

If Obama had shown some level of maturity and class, instead of vanity and vindictiveness, he would have simply ignored the article and focused on more important issues....such as his own performance ratings.

The real reason for McChrystal's firing by Obama will eventually emerge and it has NOTHING to do with the lies that were written in that piece of pulp trash.

Guest
06-28-2010, 09:55 PM
General Petraeus is certainly well qualified for this assignment. However, his current responsibility is head of Central Command - the group in charge of our actions is SE Asia and the Middle East, not just Afghanistan.

General Ward, USA, now head of the US Africa Command; General Mattis, USMC, now head of the US Joint Force Command; and Lt. Gen. David Rodriguez, General McChrystal’s second in command are all capable of assuming control of the Afghanistan war. However none of them have the intimate knowledge of the region as a whole as General Petraeus.

With war breaking out Kyrgyzstan, a country that is home to the most critical AF base we have to support the war in Afghanistan, continuing problems dealing with Pakistan, the threat of war at sea between Israel and Iran, etc., I would prefer to see General Petraeus at Central Command with responsibility for the total region. We do not have another commander with the depth and breadth of experience for Central Command. That is why I would prefer to see him there and someone else in charge in Afghanistan.

Guest
06-29-2010, 03:59 PM
Agree....Pretaeus should have remained at Central Command.

Oh the irony of it all....."Bush's General" who was so terribly berated by Obama, HC, Reid, Pelosi, and Biden for the "surge" in Iraq....is now the "only" man who can get the "job" done in Afghanistan!

Obama is a "follower" not a "leader."