New homes?

[eweissenbach]

We still occasionally go to open houses, out of curiosity and we just find it fun. Today we went to two open houses in Creekside Landing, partially because that is where we spent six days in 2010 on a Lifestyle Preview. They were both courtyard villas being offered for about $400k. My question is; how can these be sold as new homes? They have updated floors, decorating, and kitchen appliances, but the ones we looked at had washers and dryers, HVAC, and roofs from 2008. If I am not mistaken they have 30 year amortized bonds. Yet, The Villages residential sales department is advertising and marketing these homes as NEW. In my opinion that is false advertising as these homes have generally been rented for over a decade. Now I assume that most, if not all people who buy these know their history, but nonetheless I believe it is wrong. Your opinion?

[tophcfa]

They don't sound new to me. We have a friend who lives in Creekside landing and as far as I know nothing new has been built in there for many years. Creekside is a very nice place and is in a great location, but new homes, NOT.

[twoplanekid]

My opinion from one year ago about this issue -> https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/again-what-new-home-278053/

[vintageogauge]

Same as buying a new car that was a "demonstrator" never titled.

[Bay Kid]

New, 11 years ago.

[Chi-Town]

You don't pay list for a demo.

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[Boomer]

We still occasionally go to open houses, out of curiosity and we just find it fun. Today we went to two open houses in Creekside Landing, partially because that is where we spent six days in 2010 on a Lifestyle Preview. They were both courtyard villas being offered for about $400k. My question is; how can these be sold as new homes? They have updated floors, decorating, and kitchen appliances, but the ones we looked at had washers and dryers, HVAC, and roofs from 2008. If I am not mistaken they have 30 year amortized bonds. Yet, The Villages residential sales department is advertising and marketing these homes as NEW. In my opinion that is false advertising as these homes have generally been rented for over a decade. Now I assume that most, if not all people who buy these know their history, but nonetheless I believe it is wrong. Your opinion?

I have been reading your posts for years and find you to be credible and fair. Although you like TV, you speak up about things that others choose not to see — or try to spin. Thank you.

You asked for opinions. Here’s mine: I do not see how advertising those houses as “New” can be characterized as anything other than a bald-faced lie. (Or is it a bold-faced lie?) Whichever it is, it is an insult to the intelligence of potential buyers.

We have bought several houses over the years—only one in TV though. Mr. Boomer always looks at the electrical panel, along with all those other guts-of-the-house things.

If a potential buyer looks at the electrical panel in these “new” houses, they should see the date of the original inspection — I hope. (It is unlikely that the panel would have been replaced in a house just 10 years old so there the date of build should be.)

(And, btw, a Florida roof usually gets long-in-the-tooth years before a northern roof.)

The advertising should be changed to “recent updates.” How stupid do they think people are. (Rhetorical question — that is why I did not put a question mark at the end.) The false advertising makes the answer obvious.

[Fredster]

In my opinion they are used homes, because they were USED!

[CWGUY]

We still occasionally go to open houses, out of curiosity and we just find it fun. Today we went to two open houses in Creekside Landing, partially because that is where we spent six days in 2010 on a Lifestyle Preview. They were both courtyard villas being offered for about $400k. My question is; how can these be sold as new homes? They have updated floors, decorating, and kitchen appliances, but the ones we looked at had washers and dryers, HVAC, and roofs from 2008. If I am not mistaken they have 30 year amortized bonds. Yet, The Villages residential sales department is advertising and marketing these homes as NEW. In my opinion that is false advertising as these homes have generally been rented for over a decade. Now I assume that most, if not all people who buy these know their history, but nonetheless I believe it is wrong. Your opinion?

:ohdear: I think just recently I read a post from someone I think seems very wise....... Rule #2 It’s all small stuff! :icon_wink:

[graciegirl]

I have been reading your posts for years and find you to be credible and fair. Although you like TV, you speak up about things that others choose not to see — or try to spin. Thank you.

You asked for opinions. Here’s mine: I do not see how advertising those houses as “New” can be characterized as anything other than a bald-faced lie. (Or is it a bold-faced lie?) Whichever it is, it is an insult to the intelligence of potential buyers.

We have bought several houses over the years—only one in TV though. Mr. Boomer always looks at the electrical panel, along with all those other guts-of-the-house things.

If a potential buyer looks at the electrical panel in these “new” houses, they should see the date of the original inspection — I hope. (It is unlikely that the panel would have been replaced in a house just 10 years old so there the date of build should be.)

(And, btw, a Florida roof usually gets long-in-the-tooth years before a northern roof.)

The advertising should be changed to “recent updates.” How stupid do they think people are. (Rhetorical question — that is why I did not put a question mark at the end.) The false advertising makes the answer obvious.

As Ed said, most people know they aren't "new". I think" a bald face lie" is a little much though.

I don't think people try to "choose not to see" or "try to spin". I think most people just think these are homes used for lifestyle visits, for rentals, for quite some time but never SOLD to anyone.

No biggum dealum.

[Boomer]

:ohdear: I think just recently I read a post from someone I think seems very wise....... Rule #2 It’s all small stuff! :icon_wink:


Nope. Not always. Sometimes it’s a microcosm.

[retiredguy123]

:ohdear: I think just recently I read a post from someone I think seems very wise....... Rule #2 It’s all small stuff! :icon_wink:
It appears as though The Villages has only one house in Creekside Landing that is advertised as a new house, 1184 Atlas Drive. It is furnished and the photos look like everything is upgraded and look new on the inside. The Sumter County property website says that the house was built in 2009, so it is clearly not a new house. So, I think the "buyer beware" principle would apply, and I would hope that the selling agent would reveal to an uninformed buyer that the house was not recently constructed. So, I would agree that this is small stuff.

[eweissenbach]

I did not imply it was “big stuff”. I merely find it to be disingenuous, and kind of silly.

[tophcfa]

I think it is wrong that a home built in 2009 is advertised as new. On the other hand, anyone stupid enough to buy a home in Creekside Landing and actually believe it is new probably gets what they deserve.

[Velvet]

Perhaps what they mean by “new” is that the same sales conditions apply to this home as to the brand new homes; 10 year warranty, unpaid bond etc The term “demo home” might be a bit more descriptive .

[ColdNoMore]

I did not imply it was “big stuff”. I merely find it to be disingenuous, and kind of silly.

Completely disingenuous. :thumbup:

[CWGUY]

:coolsmiley: A thread in 2016, 2018, and 2019...... can't wait til next year! :ho:

[Two Bills]

:coolsmiley: A thread in 2016, 2018, and 2019...... can't wait til next year! :ho:

TOTV thread, November 2020.

"I bought a home recently at Creekside Landing, and I have just found out it was built in 2009 and was used continually untill I purchased it 'New'.
Any advice would be appreciated.":icon_wink:

[Chatbrat]

Its the same thing ,that auto dealers do when they sell a car that has never been title but is used by owners & officers of the dealership;however the dealership usually offers a discount and a complete warranty--the cars usually have less than 3K miles

If no-one ever lived in the house it is new, if all the appliances are current under factory waranty it is new, if the heating & cooling system is current it is new, if the roof is less than 1 yr old it is new--get the picture

[graciegirl]

They have had no one complain about this who has bought one. They have had no trouble selling them.

I can't imagine anyone buying a home, a HOME, which is probably the biggest purchase 99.9% of us makes, without knowing this, seeing that Creekside is NOT new, been here for a good while, particularly WHERE it is located. They would have to be more than STUPID.

It looks as if people are digging for something to be a put down on the developers.

If that bothers them, surely this will too;

Merry Christmas.

It is a beautiful day in The Villages.

[bagboy]

They have had no one complain about this who has bought one. They have had no trouble selling them.

I can't imagine anyone buying a home, a HOME, which is probably the biggest purchase 99.9% of us makes, without knowing this, seeing that Creekside is NOT new, been here for a good while, particularly WHERE it is located. They would have to be more than STUPID.

It looks as if people are digging for something to be a put down on the developers.

If that bothers them, surely this will too;

Merry Christmas.

It is a beautiful day in The Villages.

I can't imagine driving around, visiting an open house with zero intention of buying, then going online with complaints about it. It is a beautiful day, and GO Bucks!!!

[DAVES]

TOTV thread, November 2020.

"I bought a home recently at Creekside Landing, and I have just found out it was built in 2009 and was used continually until I purchased it 'New'.
Any advice would be appreciated.":icon_wink:

I'm not a fan of attorneys but, you need to decide what you want and then decide to pursue it or not. A letter saying Dear Sir someone, not sure who they are or how qualified they are, posting on talk of the villages, agrees with me that your listing of the home I bought from you is not as listed-you stated NEW. Thus, the sale is void and I intend to sue you for ????? moving expenses, closing costs etc etc etc. Or, since the property is not NEW, as listed I am suing you for ?????????? in damages.

"Just found it was built in 2009," the date the home was built was readily available to you-one the title insurance, bill of sale, heck you can look it up on the internet-zillow-realtor. com etc.

[CWGUY]

I can't imagine driving around, visiting an open house with zero intention of buying, then going online with complaints about it. It is a beautiful day, and PSU is going down!!!

:ohdear: Believe it ! :faint: And this is after there was over 100 posts on this site...... some by people who went to open houses there and some by people who purchased there and they both said they were told the houses were in the preview plan. :ho:

[CWGUY]

I'm not a fan of attorneys but, you need to decide what you want and then decide to pursue it or not. A letter saying Dear Sir someone, not sure who they are or how qualified they are, posting on talk of the villages, agrees with me that your listing of the home I bought from you is not as listed-you stated NEW. Thus, the sale is void and I intend to sue you for ????? moving expenses, closing costs etc etc etc. Or, since the property is not NEW, as listed I am suing you for ?????????? in damages.

"Just found it was built in 2009," the date the home was built was readily available to you-one the title insurance, bill of sale, heck you can look it up on the internet-zillow-realtor. com etc.

:ohdear: Did you notice the :icon_wink: wink icon? I think the poster was being sarcastic and answering my post. I laughed at it and thought it funny. :ho:

[charmed59]

I think it’s much less sinister than trying to pass off refurbished homes as new. I think when the developer puts properties they own up for sale the system automatically codes them as new, and no one really knows how to fix that.

When I was looking to buy a villa in Creekside my Villages agent showed me a few of the homes they had redone, including replacing all the floors and windows. It looked beautiful. Even more importantly it looked nothing like the pictures online, which were of the home before they updated it. I mentioned to my Village realtor that they might want to update the pictures, and she looked shocked. The home had been on the market for months, and no one had looked at the pictures. They were wondering why there was so little interest.