Is the music at the Squares unbearably LOUD?

[VApeople]

When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

[npwalters]

I was there for the second set and it actually seemed less loud than normal to me. I was hoping they would crank it up. Guess that's why some like vanilla and some like chocolate.

[ckcapaul]

Some bands are louder than need, most are good

[eyc234]

nope!

[anothersteve]

Uncle Bob's Rock Shop, Penta, The Hooligans, American Martian, Smokin Torpedoes.....the louder the better.
Steve

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We saw a band last week in Spanish Springs that would've been great if the lead singer's microphone didn't sound like the battery was dying. It was all raspy and distorted, you could hear the crackles. It didn't seem too loud to me, just inferior or defective equipment.

[bagboy]

When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

My opinion is, when you go somewhere to listen to music, and it's too loud for you, you are getting too old to relax and have a good time. The name is Johnny WILD and the delights, not chamber music.

[EdFNJ]

In my opinion, yes. Since last spring or summer or whenever it was when they installed new sound systems. We used to go into the square almost every night for the "loud" rock bands like Johhny Wild and it was bearable sitting in the middle areas. Now when we sit outside across the street at Starbucks very often it's impossible to carry on a conversation with others at the table. I have a sound measuring app on my phone which has been pretty highly rated as being quite accurate and very often it reaches 90db and occasionally the "dangerous" area of 100db and this is outside across the street at Starbucks. Of course it depends on the band and the type of music but those same R&R bands were very bearable in the square in the past but now are unbearable even across the street. My hearing is fine, just had it checked 3 days ago. :) I like loud music, but it has become painful at times recently. It's partly the fault of the guy running around with the iPad adjusting sound levels. I think he is hard of hearing. :D :D

[EdFNJ]

My opinion is, when you go somewhere to listen to music, and it's too loud for you, you are getting too old to relax and have a good time.
LMAO. That statement makes no sense whatsoever. Listening to and enjoying any type of music, or relaxing, or having fun, does not equate to painful volume levels.

[snorkey1]

Yes music is too loud. If you are not deaf you will be after going to the square. I also find the shows at the Savannah are very very loud.
I would like to keep my hearing as long as possible, its a shame to have to wear ear plugs.

[JimJohnson]

Considering the cost, I think they are perfect.

[bilcon]

Johnny Wild and The Delights. Awesome band. Turn your hearing aide down.

[ts12755]

No. Been here 4 years and get up to the squares at least 2, sometimes 3 times a week.

[Aces4]

My opinion is, when you go somewhere to listen to music, and it's too loud for you, you are getting too old to relax and have a good time. The name is Johnny WILD and the delights, not chamber music.

Funny but not pertinent to the OP’s question. The problem lies within the crowd itself. Many, if not most, people over the age of 50 have lost a good portion of their hearing and only enjoy the music and conversation at very high decibels. That is killer for those of us with acute hearing and is, as stated earlier, painful in high decibel venues.

I would suggest you try to avoid those places since it’s not comfortable entertainment and can damage your normal hearing.

[dewilson58]

Sound Levels are not always professionally set.


Agree, so are too loud..............but then we just head out.


Not a reason for me to move out of TV.










Oh, Happy Thanksgiving to all !!!!!

[Denvercane]

Fortunately the band is not playing for just you. There are 3 bands every night, just head out to another square. Problem solved

[lizbell]

I am sensitive to loud music, so always have an earplug with me (one will take care of the discomfort).

[wielen]

Yes the music is way way too loud at the squares!! When you ask the sound guy to please turn it down he laughs at you and then proceeds to turn the volume higher!! You know what we pay for this music would be nice if we could enjoy it at a decent noise level!! But then who are we only the people who live here and listen to the sound barrier breaking music!!!

[eyc234]

Do not understand, the squares are rather large areas, can you not just move back until the volume is at your liking? Go to the back side of the stage or the side to again have the sound level at your preference.

[kstew43]

Maybe your comparing the break music to the band. We were there last night, and wondered what has happened to the band? There shrinking......

[Love2Swim]

I am sensitive to loud music, so always have an earplug with me (one will take care of the discomfort).

Me too - I have two. I always wear them at the movie theaters. We went to the Sharon one time, sitting in front row near the speakers, and we had to leave at half time. WAY too loud - I was afraid of it damaging my hearing.

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes the music is way way too loud at the squares!! When you ask the sound guy to please turn it down he laughs at you and then proceeds to turn the volume higher!! You know what we pay for this music would be nice if we could enjoy it at a decent noise level!! But then who are we only the people who live here and listen to the sound barrier breaking music!!!

What we pay???

[DavidK]

If the music is too loud, you might try to position your seats out of the direct line of fire of the speakers. Sometimes that is enough to make a difference. If you like being in the direct view, try some inexpensive ear plugs to filter the db down some.

[PugMom]

i think it depends on the bands playing. somehow the Hooligans will always sound louder than anita drink, lol

[John_W]

You can get ear plugs. Go to Walmart to sporting goods and they have small ear plugs that shooters use. $4 for 32.

I discovered this many years ago. I went to a lot of concerts in the 70's, Deep Purple in '72 doing Child in Time was unreal and probably Journey with Steve Perry in 1980 was the loudest, very high pitched especially Steve's vocals and the keyboards. However, it wasn't until 1984 when I saw Def Leppard on the Pyromania Tour with Krokus opening that I had noticed a hearing problem, everything sounded muffled afterwards for 3 days. Ever since then when I go to a concert I take ear plugs. I don't always use them, depends on where I'm sitting, I still have great hearing at age 69. I sat in the front row of Mickey Thomas and Starship last year at Savannah Center, the sound was perfect without the plugs.

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[WickedMike]

I used to enjoy going to the squares at night but over the last year the music has been so loud that we often leave. It seems that Brownwood is the worse and maybe it’s because of the bleacher area. I realize many may be hard of hearing but all off us will be if we listen to it that loud. Even walking across the street and listening is sometimes to loud to have conversations.

[Taltarzac725]

i think it depends on the bands playing. somehow the Hooligans will always sound louder than anita drink, lol

That sounds correct. Some of the bands are extremely LOUD. Some are not.

[billethkid]

Maybe the music is no louder than last year or the year before but the listener(s) are one or two years older....maybe less tolerance for the same volume...maybe hearing ability has changed with aging....

OK to observe ones likes or dislikes....can't please everybody...
however as some have been noted there are many options available to solving the problem if one really enjoys the music and being out.

[Mjborr]

If it’s to loud don’t go.

[JoMar]

What we pay???

Just chalk that comment up to a newbie who doesn't understand who pays.

[newyorkmaya]

The music is so loud I don't go to the squares anymore In fact, it is so loud that I heard it (faintly) in my house,
with the windows closed last night. Other times, I just hear the base. I can't sit on my deck overlooking the lake without the background of music I can't quite identify. I live next to the Silver Lake Rec Center. That's about a mile away. The free entertainment is no longer a benefit, just something I have to live with (and hide from.)

[Daddymac]

What did he Say, The music was to loud !

[courtyard]

Can you imagine what it's going to be like for the poor folks who will be renting at the Lofts of Brownwood situated in the Brownwood Square parking lot who will be listening to this loud music 365 nights a year!

[billethkid]

Some are starting to show and act their age.
Things that are no longer entertainment for some...for what ever reason...are still available for those that still enjoy it.

All others need not go/attend/listen/etc....it is just that simple.

[ROCKETMAN]

I am trying to post a new idea but can’t find where you click on new post. My question is does anyone know for sure if they will be charging for premier seating at New Years squares. Three very good entertainers. Scooter, Johnny Wild, and the hooligans. I’m sure if they charged 50 bucks to see a tree lighting, they will charge for New Years eve

[bagboy]

Some are starting to show and act their age.
Things that are no longer entertainment for some...for what ever reason...are still available for those that still enjoy it.

All others need not go/attend/listen/etc....it is just that simple.

Clicking thank you wasn't enough. Thank You!!! That was the point I had in mind earlier in this thread.

[npwalters]

We attended the second set at Sumpter last night (the one referenced by the OP) and go to one of the squares at least once a week. We could hear the music once we entered the square. Could not hear it at all once we got past the theater going south back to our cart. I think some folks are exaggerating just a bit but I hope more people stay home. Sumpter was crazy busy last night.

[dewilson58]

We attended the second set at Sumpter last night (the one referenced by the OP) and go to one of the squares at least once a week. We could hear the music once we entered the square. Could not hear it at all once we got past the theater going south back to our cart. I think some folks are exaggerating just a bit but I hope more people stay home. Sumpter was crazy busy last night.




No P


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[Two Bills]

It's the poor quality of the sound that hurts, if it is well balanced there should be no pain.
Problem on squares, is one sound setting, seems to fit all groups.
That is why most of the big groups have their own sound engineers, not some bloke knocking back the Buds with a volume control!

[Aces4]

Some are starting to show and act their age.
Things that are no longer entertainment for some...for what ever reason...are still available for those that still enjoy it.

All others need not go/attend/listen/etc....it is just that simple.

It is as simple as some people have excellent hearing and many here do not. It’s painful when you have your hearing.

[pandres]

We are all individuals with individual tastes. It's hard to please everyone and I think that is why we have entertainment at three squares to choose from every day. I have my favorite musical performers that I frequent and I think most residents also have their favorites. I know what to expect in terms of loudness from each of my favorites and I am never disappointed.

[Fredster]

My opinion is, when you go somewhere to listen to music, and it's too loud for you, you are getting too old to relax and have a good time. The name is Johnny WILD and the delights, not chamber music.

:bigbow:

[Fredster]

When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

We were there and back by the radio station and the music was fun and most enjoyable!

[VApeople]

It is nice to see that some of you agree with me that the music can be painfully loud when certain groups are playing.

We sometimes sit back by the lake so the sound is not too bad, but then we can't see the performers, so it is not any better than just hearing music on Youtube. Actually, Youtube is better because there are a lot of good videos, even some of the homemade ones.

Anyway, thanks for all of your opinions.

[graciegirl]

Yes the music is way way too loud at the squares!! When you ask the sound guy to please turn it down he laughs at you and then proceeds to turn the volume higher!! You know what we pay for this music would be nice if we could enjoy it at a decent noise level!! But then who are we only the people who live here and listen to the sound barrier breaking music!!!

The musicians are paid for by the merchants on the square. But perhaps you are a merchant.

[talktome]

Agree! I won't go to the squares anymore for that reason. MUSIC WAY TOO LOUD!

[OlifOlif]

What about the band that played that set the other week? Tony says is was not enough for him to hear! Betty though so too!

[Ben Franklin]

Don't sit next to the speakers ;-)

[Altavia]

My Apple Watch Noise app often triggers over 90 dB at the squares in the seating areas.

More than 30 minutes day or over 4 hrs a week at that level can cause hearing loss.

Impact may be more diminished in those with cumulitive hearing loss but I'd be especially careful limiting the time with children in the squares.

How to Protect Your Hearing With the Apple Watch Noise App | PCMag.com (https://www.pcmag.com/feature/371027/how-to-protect-your-hearing-with-the-apple-watch-noise-app)

[UpNorth]

Better enjoy the performers while you can. Most of them will be getting deaf soon, so new acts will need to take their place.:icon_wink:

[EdFNJ]

My Apple Watch Noise app often triggers over 90 dB at the squares in the seating areas.

More than 30 minutes day or over 4 hrs a week at that level can cause hearing loss.

Impact may be more diminished in those with cumulitive hearing loss but I'd be especially careful limiting the time with children in the squares.

How to Protect Your Hearing With the Apple Watch Noise App | PCMag.com (https://www.pcmag.com/feature/371027/how-to-protect-your-hearing-with-the-apple-watch-noise-app)


I have the A.W. 4 also but use another APP called Decibel X Pro. As I mentioned in an earlier post that app has a coupe times hit over 100db at the square by the booze house and often above 90db sitting in front of Starbucks for the louder groups. The answer is NOT "move out of The Villages" or "go somewhere else to listen to music". It is just possible they have their levels turned up a bit high at various times. For the SAME BAND (Johnny Wild as a specific example) sometimes it is not bad but sometimes it is painful. They have no set levels. The guy from the sound booth runs all around playing with the levels on his tablet. He controls each connected instrument, and each microphone. individually. The "consistency" changed after LSL and SS squares upgraded their sound system and lighting. Brownwood always had the newer equipment. Sometimes even the
relatively "quiet" solo performer with the prerecorded music behind her has vocal volume turned way too high. They are not as bothersome but still not properly balanced for the area and way above what it should be for the size of the listening area.

[EdFNJ]

Better enjoy the performers while you can. Most of them will be getting deaf soon, so new acts will need to take their place.:icon_wink: Like Rocky and the Elders? :D :D

[laryb]

Every concert I've ever been to, and I've seen many of the greats, was loud. IMHO, unless you're listening to ballads, love songs, or the old standards, rock n' roll is supposed to be loud. Maybe a pair of foam earplugs might be the answer.

[WickedMike]

Yes some residents may be hard of hearing but with the loud music we will all develop hearing problems. Usually the break time music is much lower and tolerable. There a difference in loud and intolerable!!

[EdFNJ]

Every concert I've ever been to, and I've seen many of the greats, was loud. IMHO, unless you're listening to ballads, love songs, or the old standards, rock n' roll is supposed to be loud. Maybe a pair of foam earplugs might be the answer.THese are NOT CONCERTS that you are going to in professional venues. it's daily entertainment for the Villages "in the park." You're missing the point (well, my point, maybe not everyone's). We've gone just about every night for the last 2 1/2 years and the music was never THIS loud. It changed markedly and varies greatly. Loud is one thing, painful is another. It was not always that way. Now the same band on 2 different appearances at the same place can be twice as loud as the time before which was only a week or 2 earlier. These shows aren't intended for people in their 20's and 30's it for people generally 55+++. There is no need for dangerously loud music especially when it is different for the same band from one performance to the next. It's NOT THE BAND, it's the guy playing with sound levels in the booth.

[Challenger]

THese are NOT CONCERTS that you are going to in professional venues. it's daily entertainment for the Villages "in the park." You're missing the point (well, my point, maybe not everyone's). We've gone just about every night for the last 2 1/2 years and the music was never THIS loud. It changed markedly and varies greatly. Loud is one thing, painful is another. It was not always that way. Now the same band on 2 different appearances at the same place can be twice as loud as the time before which was only a week or 2 earlier. These shows aren't intended for people in their 20's and 30's it for people generally 55+++. There is no need for dangerously loud music especially when it is different for the same band from one performance to the next. It's NOT THE BAND, it's the guy playing with sound levels in the booth.

We go sometimes in the evenings to LSL for a sit out dinner. The last two times, the music has been so loud, that we could not carry on a conversation over dinner. Probably will avoid LSL in the evenings, until things get back to normal db ranges

[Love2Swim]

I am trying to post a new idea but can’t find where you click on new post. My question is does anyone know for sure if they will be charging for premier seating at New Years squares. Three very good entertainers. Scooter, Johnny Wild, and the hooligans. I’m sure if they charged 50 bucks to see a tree lighting, they will charge for New Years eve

Good question.

[gmpipi@aol.com]

Most enjoy the added vibes the added volume produced!

[Villagevip]

The music has to be loud for those that desire to hear it...This, B/C everyone sitting around, are loudly yapping away to everyone around them..Really, not there to listen to music! NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

[VApeople]

It's NOT THE BAND, it's the guy playing with sound levels in the booth.

That is not true.

When Johnny Wild was playing at LSL a few days ago, one of the band members asked to have the volume increased.

After they sang "Surfin Safari" at a reasonable volume at the beginning of the second set, the curly haired guy on Johnny's left asked to have the amplifiers increased, and the next piece of music was unbearable. So we left.

[dennisgavin]

Depends on the group. I actually complimented a group one night for their sound levels. Their music was full but not blasting. It is a mix between the band and whoever is working the sound board. One night months ago American Martian was playing and it was intolerable.
I played in a band when I was young and know the difference between a good full sound and too loud. Louder does not mean better. IT can ruin what is otherwise good talent.

[Bay Kid]

Beauty of hearing aids.

[brookesil]

Agree

[Fredster]

There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

[Shambles]

I played in quite a few bands and did a lot of recording sessions back in the 60s and 70s. In a couple of our bands, we had a professional, experienced sound engineer and a high quality sound system. The sound man is, in effect, the producer of the band when they're on stage, and his competence and preferences can either enhance or diminish their performance. Every venue has different acoustics and it's difficult for the band to know how they sound out front. If you think it's too loud, moving further away from the stage would help. Or, you could try going over to the sound booth and politely asking them to turn it down. Occasionally if I think it sounds really good, I'll go over and compliment the sound man.They really appreciate that.

[EdFNJ]

We go sometimes in the evenings to LSL for a sit out dinner. The last two times, the music has been so loud, that we could not carry on a conversation over dinner. Probably will avoid LSL in the evenings, until things get back to normal db ranges


Exactly my point and experience. Many folks here have my favorite intelligent answer to solve every comment which I see in just about every thread where someone complains (ie. posts their opinion) about something they don't agree with:


1) If you don't like it here move
2) Quit whining
3) grow up
4) move further away
5) eat somewhere else
yada yada yada


:1rotfl:

[EdFNJ]

That is not true.

When Johnny Wild was playing at LSL a few days ago, one of the band members asked to have the volume increased.

After they sang "Surfin Safari" at a reasonable volume at the beginning of the second set, the curly haired guy on Johnny's left asked to have the amplifiers increased, and the next piece of music was unbearable. So we left.

That's a good data point for that specific experience but in general it doesn't happen in that way. A couple days ago when some single performer singing jazz was onstage it was just as bad and I'm sure she didn't ask the volume to be turned up. Her mic was so hot that you could hear the hairs in her nose wiggling when she breathed across the street. :D

[bagboy]

Exactly my point and experience. Many folks here have my favorite intelligent answer to solve every comment which I see in just about every thread where someone complains (ie. posts their opinion) about something they don't agree with:


1) If you don't like it here move
2) Quit whining
3) grow up
4) move further away
5) eat somewhere else
yada yada yada


:1rotfl:


6) contact the entertainment department and have a conversation with someone who may actually be able to look into the volume and determine if there is a problem and fix it if one exists.

[Topspinmo]

When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

Yes, there too loud, but the drunks don’t care 🤷*♂️

[Topspinmo]

There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

I like the just don’t attend

[Topspinmo]

Beauty of hearing aids.


Don’t you mean ear plugs

[Topspinmo]

We were there and back by the radio station and the music was fun and most enjoyable!
Naturally on the back side of the speakers

[Topspinmo]

Considering the cost, I think they are perfect.

Yep, can’t put price on deafness

[jackie wark]

we agree........we had same experience. Couldn't hear it partly because people in the back rows were making such a noise

[Fredster]

Naturally on the back side of the speakers

So if the music is too loud, the back side
might be a solution for many!

[Aces4]

There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

Easier to deal with it if you have poor hearing, turn down your hearing aids.

That would save the hearing that the normal people and children have in the area.

[retiredguy123]

There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.
Your last suggestion applies to me. I just don't attend. I stay away from all musical events. Too loud.

[tophcfa]

When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

I have never heard any music that is unbearably loud, but I have heard lots of music that is unbearable to listen to. This is especially true most recently, as the trend in the music selection has changed to more disco etc.... Bring back the old rock and roll bands and get rid of the newer stuff, my wife and I can't dance to that garbage.

[Lovey2]

:Yes. The music has been raised for about a year now. When I mentioned it I was told the squares aren't places to socialize, just listen to music. :shocked: I disagree. The squares aren't as enjoyable to me as they once were. You cannot quietly socialize with friends, but are forced to yell...which is annoying...both to the yeller and the listener and the surrounding people.

[billlaur]

the louder the better ….LOUD IS GOOD....They should crank it up more...:coolsmiley:

[billlaur]

hey tops, hope u get all the rolls...

[John_W]

The loudest sound, not counting a jet airplane, was in 1984 when I saw Black Oak Arkansas featuring Jim Dandy at a club (dive bar) just outside Savannah, Georgia. It was a good size place, held about 250 people at tables, the big problem was the ceiling was maybe 9' high. I knew the owner and he saved me a table at the very front.

Jim Dandy came out, he had just had open-heart surgery the year before but also had just released a new album on his own label "Ready as Hell". The first song and the last song he played was his hit "Jim Dandy to the Rescue", give the people what they want to hear, why wait for the encore to play the hit, play it twice. He was sensational, but as soon as they started playing it was like a high-frequency sound going off, I couldn't tell a note, vocal or anything. I grabbed a couple of cigarettes from someone and tore off the filters and stuck them in my ears. The sound was now perfect!! In fact, he appeared at the Oasis Lounge in Hinesville, Georgia four times that year and I went everytime.

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[Aw Man]

When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.
Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.
We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be. What is your opinion?

I have no problem with the current sound level of the band music at the Squares.
But I definitely feel the sound level in the movie theaters at the Squares is UNBEARABLY LOUD!

[VApeople]

:Yes. The music has been raised for about a year now. When I mentioned it I was told the squares aren't places to socialize, just listen to music. :shocked: I disagree. The squares aren't as enjoyable to me as they once were.

Yeah, that is how I feel, and it is nice to hear that other people feel the same way.

[npwalters]

Lots of other places to socialize.

[dewilson58]

sometimes the music is loud because the band is bad.


:popcorn:

[crash]

Have measured the sound level at Savanah and it was 89 to 90 decibels, not loud for a concert. Saw the Guess Who and it was loud at 95 decibels but good. You can get a sound meter app for your phone and measure it. I use eardial and it tells you how long you can listen to the sound without ear plugs.

[BobnBev]

Same thing with the movie theaters...I bring earplugs.

[GoPacers]

Admit it folks, there comes a point when we are just old. When you need to employ the way-back machine to make a point you probably should just stop, smile and say thanks for a good life. The Villages is a wonderful place. There is something for everyone but everything is not for everyone.

[Challenger]

Admit it folks, there comes a point when we are just old. When you need to employ the way-back machine to make a point you probably should just stop, smile and say thanks for a good life. The Villages is a wonderful place. There is something for everyone but everything is not for everyone.

and, the music is often too loud

[Chatbrat]

The only concert we went to that was real loud was Lady Gaga in Raleigh,NC--as far as the squares, been here 9 years+, go to the squares , only to dine or see a movie the only squares we dime in is Brownwood, Blufin or just outside of Spanish Springs @ Sakura

Going to the squares reminds me NYC, Times Sq-hate crowds & tight parking had our cars pinned in, once too often

[dadspet]

No its not!

[B-flat]

LMAO. That statement makes no sense whatsoever. Listening to and enjoying any type of music, or relaxing, or having fun, does not equate to painful volume levels.


Plus one! Been there done that in my early years going to clubs and concerts. At this point in life I still get plenty of enjoyment listening to a trio or quartet in a small jazz club.

[charmed59]

I was thinking of this thread last night as I was dancing to the Hooligans at Spanish Springs and thinking this isn’t that loud. No, you couldn’t have a conversation on the dance floor, or perhaps you could, I saw some people attempting it. But once on the sidewalk you could have a normal conversation.

Then I drove home and wandered into my den to watch TV and I could hear Johnny Wild clearly above the volume of the television. I live across the water from LSL, on an inland lot, with houses and a golf course between me and the water. My double pained windows were closed and locked (sealed). I did enjoy the series of Christmas songs they did in the last set from the warm comfort of my sofa. Perhaps it is a bit too loud.

[EdFNJ]

I was thinking of this thread last night as I was dancing to the Hooligans at Spanish Springs and thinking this isn’t that loud. No, you couldn’t have a conversation on the dance floor, or perhaps you could, I saw some people attempting it. But once on the sidewalk you could have a normal conversation.

Then I drove home and wandered into my den to watch TV and I could hear Johnny Wild clearly above the volume of the television. I live across the water from LSL, on an inland lot, with houses and a golf course between me and the water. My double pained windows were closed and locked (sealed). I did enjoy the series of Christmas songs they did in the last set from the warm comfort of my sofa. Perhaps it is a bit too loud.


Then you shouldn't have bought that house! Move! Wear earplugs! You're a wimp! Put a blanket over your house! You don't appreciate "the Developer"!, I've been to louder concerts! You hate the (non-denominational) holidays! You are getting too old to relax and have a good time! Johnny Wild and The Delights. Awesome band. Turn your hearing aide down!

:D :D LOL, just heading off some of the usual responses you are likely to get. :D :D

[Topspinmo]

If they can here the crap inside they’re house across lake IT’s TOO loud, just because some people are deaf don’t means the rest of us want to be. :boom:

[dewilson58]

If they can here the crap inside they’re house across lake IT’s TOO loud, just because some people are deaf don’t means the rest of us want to be. :boom:

I "here" ya.



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[villages07]

I was at Lake Sumter last night with Cactus Jack playing....I did not think the volume was unusually loud. So, perhaps, it depends on the band and how they work with the audio team?

[VApeople]

So, perhaps, it depends on the band and how they work with the audio team?

Yeah, that is probably correct.

As I said before, the night we were there listening to Johnny Wild they sang "Surfin Safari" at a reasonable volume.

Then one of the band members asked the sound guy to turn up the amps. The next piece of music was painfully loud, so we left.

[John_W]

If they can here the crap inside they’re house across lake IT’s TOO loud, just because some people are deaf don’t means the rest of us want to be. :boom:


I play championship courses every Friday and Palmer a couple of times a month. When I play Riley Grove at Arnold Palmer directly across Lake Sumter I always have a teetime after 1pm. When I come through holes 7, 8 and 9 usually about 4pm, way before the square music starts. I can hear the band playing at Cody's. I've been to Cody many times to listen to "Take Two", they're just a guy and girl with a keyboard and I sit 20' in front them with no problem.

Living across from LSL the sound travels across the water much easier. Plus when it's later sound travels greater at night. I can hear a train at night in Wildwood 5 miles from my house in Tamarind Grove and not hear any trains during the day. I can tell what song they're playing at Cody's while on Riley Grove and it has nothing to do with being too loud.

There is a scientific reason and it's because water cools the air above its surface, which then slows down the sound waves near the surface. This causes refraction or bending of the sound wave, such that more sound reaches across the lake. Sound waves skimming the surface of the water can add to the amplification effect, if the water is calm, which Lake Sumter usually is.

[Velvet]

I’d like to borrow the band members’ ear plugs.

[charmed59]

From my yard I can usually hear if someone is playing at the square. I can seldom tell who is playing or what they are playing. That is what was so weird about the night of the tree lighting. I could hear the words inside the house. Was anyone at the square? Was it loud there? Or was it a weather phenomenon?

[Altavia]

There are usually children at the squares and anything greater that 85 db damages hearing so too loud is not good. Limit exposure by time or use earplugs for kids.

Tiny Tech Tips: Why You Need Earplugs At Concerts : All Songs Considered : NPR (https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2019/03/12/692852104/tiny-tech-tips-why-you-need-earplugs-at-concerts)

[Topspinmo]

I play championship courses every Friday and Palmer a couple of times a month. When I play Riley Grove at Arnold Palmer directly across Lake Sumter I always have a teetime after 1pm. When I come through holes 7, 8 and 9 usually about 4pm, way before the square music starts. I can hear the band playing at Cody's. I've been to Cody many times to listen to "Take Two", they're just a guy and girl with a keyboard and I sit 20' in front them with no problem.

Living across from LSL the sound travels across the water much easier. Plus when it's later sound travels greater at night. I can hear a train at night in Wildwood 5 miles from my house in Tamarind Grove and not hear any trains during the day. I can tell what song they're playing at Cody's while on Riley Grove and it has nothing to do with being too loud.

There is a scientific reason and it's because water cools the air above its surface, which then slows down the sound waves near the surface. This causes refraction or bending of the sound wave, such that more sound reaches across the lake. Sound waves skimming the surface of the water can add to the amplification effect, if the water is calm, which Lake Sumter usually is.

But John, they were inside the house. I heard the trains 🚂 where I live and yes on certain nights and wind direction it a lot louder. Another thing across the pond they are behind the speakers, but probably bounces off the buildings in front of the speakers. I really don’t have dog in the this cause I only have one ear that hears, so I stay clear of loud for me obnoxious noise the makes my pencil hanger ring.

[Topspinmo]

I "here" ya.



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Huh? Can’t her you :)

[Mamaderby]

There is a t-shirt that they sell at the Rock Hall in CLeveland.....If it’s too loud, you’re too old!

[xcaligirl]

I don't believe it's the bands that are setting the level. It has gotten much louder over the years! And, no I don't wear a hearing aid! :-)

[mikeguill]

Uncle Bob's Rock Shop, Penta, The Hooligans, American Martian, Smokin Torpedoes.....the louder the better.
Steve

"if its too loud your too old"

[427dave]

In my opinion, yes. Since last spring or summer or whenever it was when they installed new sound systems. We used to go into the square almost every night for the "loud" rock bands like Johhny Wild and it was bearable sitting in the middle areas. Now when we sit outside across the street at Starbucks very often it's impossible to carry on a conversation with others at the table. I have a sound measuring app on my phone which has been pretty highly rated as being quite accurate and very often it reaches 90db and occasionally the "dangerous" area of 100db and this is outside across the street at Starbucks. Of course it depends on the band and the type of music but those same R&R bands were very bearable in the square in the past but now are unbearable even across the street. My hearing is fine, just had it checked 3 days ago. :) I like loud music, but it has become painful at times recently. It's partly the fault of the guy running around with the iPad adjusting sound levels. I think he is hard of hearing. :D :D

Wow that is louder than my 80 db Harley exhaust :)

[ismatta]

I have logged decades of listening to loud music as a disk jockey. It has done its damage, and I have significant hearing loss because of all those on air hours. Over time it does real harm. Now I need $5000 hearing aids. I understand enjoying loud music occasionally, but I need to protect what hearing I have left. I spend little time in the square if the band is too loud. I’m waiting for an acoustic quartet without 10kw of audio. Just stay away from the square if the music is too loud, there are lots of things too do in the villages that don’t cause pain, and damage your hearing. Earplugs anyone?

[smallstonefan]

I'm a future Villager and I go to a lot of concerts. My wife and I always have a pair of ear plugs with us. They make acoustic ear plugs specifically for concerts and you can get a nice pair for about $40. They let certain frequencies in more than others so you get a better audio listening experience from them than you would with foam. Sometimes we wear them, sometimes not. Sometimes I'll just wear one for an ear that faces a speaker tower, or I'll wear them only partially in if the music isn't super load or is just bass heavy.

If you're going to be around a lot of live music, keep a set with you (or in my case my wife's purse). :1rotfl:

We were just down there for another visit with my parents last weekend and got to see the Hooligans at Brownwood. One of my biggest concerns about getting to the Villages too early is my different taste in music than what I've seen at the squares. When I saw the Hooligans and the ginormous crowd completely digging the music I love, I just grinned and grinned and grinned. :) Can't wait to get there!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Now when we sit outside across the street at Starbucks very often it's impossible to carry on a conversation with others at the table.

This statement always gets me. Why would you go to a place where loud music is being played to converse? If you want to have a conversation, you shouldn't go to a place where loud music, especially rock and roll is being played.

Carrying on a conversation while a band is playing is, IMHO, disrespectful to the musicians who have worked, and are working so hard to entertain you.

[EdFNJ]

Now when we sit outside across the street at Starbucks very often it's impossible to carry on a conversation with others at the table.
This statement always gets me. Why would you go to a place where loud music is being played to converse? If you want to have a conversation, you shouldn't go to a place where loud music, especially rock and roll is being played.

Carrying on a conversation while a band is playing is, IMHO, disrespectful to the musicians who have worked, and are working so hard to entertain you.
Ummmm, wait a second here. Firstly they aren't entertaining ME they are entertaining those who went to see/hear them who are sitting in the music area across the street. Others outside the music area may or may not be there to enjoy the music. Secondly that is where the restaurants are which is why one would go there.

Starbucks (and other restaurants) are businesses across the street from and out of the "music area" where quite often people like to gather to drink coffee or have dinner and have a relaxed conversation with friends and family as are many other places outside of the entertainment area. So you are saying it is "disrespectful to the musicians" to go to a restaurant like Starbucks to sit outside in the square OUTSIDE the "music area" and have a conversation and you shouldn't go out to eat and sit outside (and often inside) on any ANY nice EVENING between 5 and 9 at any of the squares 7 nights a week just because you don't like loud music while you are trying to digest a meal and you shouldn't talk because you'd insult the musicians. NOW THAT is funny! :1rotfl:

[JoelJohnson]

Maybe we should call OSHA?

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Hmmm. I was at Lake Sumter a couple of weeks ago for the Spazmatics and I thought it wasn't loud *enough*!

[VApeople]

Why would you go to a place where loud music is being played to converse?

Sometimes they play a song that we do not like and my wife and I like to say a few words to each other.

[manaboutown]

Yes

[patfla06]

Exactly my point and experience. Many folks here have my favorite intelligent answer to solve every comment which I see in just about every thread where someone complains (ie. posts their opinion) about something they don't agree with:


1) If you don't like it here move
2) Quit whining
3) grow up
4) move further away
5) eat somewhere else
yada yada yada


:1rotfl:

And my personal favorite “get a life.”
Meaning do not ever complain about anything. :ohdear: