Why cant we all play nice?

[lovinganimals]

I often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the OP has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

[FenneyFanatic]

There are many wonderful people in the Villages! I hope folks understand that much of the negativity comes from trolls from outside the community. There is too much hostility and jealousy in the world.

[rjn5656]

It is sad what has happened on this forum. When I first starting looking at it 10 years ago, everyone was nice and helpful.

[FenneyFanatic]

Yup...

[karostay]

Yup...

:bigbow: Try living next door to one

[billethkid]

They are emboldened by being unanimous and hiding behind their key board.....a false/phony bravado that is non existent face to face!!!

[graciegirl]

It is sad what has happened on this forum. When I first starting looking at it 10 years ago, everyone was nice and helpful.

Recently I have seen posters who have been banned return under a new name. It takes a while for the moderators to figure this out, and sometimes it goes on for awhile. I don't think this Forum should have people who only think one way, but there are people who fall out of the perimeters of behavior of what most people find decent and they have agenda's not easily understood. Maybe all of their life they have been like that or some life shattering things have made them bitter and angry.

I have grown to have a thicker skin online, but there are still bullies and brawlers and I hate it when I sink to their level and sometimes I do.

[Ben Franklin]

i often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the op has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

ego

[KYTeacher]

When I first found The Villages, it seemed too good to be true! I immediately googled for information about this place. Talk of The Villages popped up and I read for hours about this fantastic place. It was my way to get to know this place and if we wanted to retire here. For the most part, it was very positive and informative. As you can see from my posting numbers, I don't post very much but do visit regularly to read. For about 4-5 years, it was good but about a year or so after we bought (hadn't moved full time yet) I started reading posts that were very negative about The Villages (developers) and also the residents - how everyone was mean and greedy - rude and disrespectful.

As we came for our next short stay, we were a little worried that we had purchased into a community that wasn't what we thought. But upon arrival, found that we were having the same positive and happy experience as always! I guess some will always have a negative outlook (no matter where they are or what they are doing) and some will be positive. I choose to embrace all things wonderful about this place.

[JoMar]

I agree that some of those commenting are, at best, snowbirds and at worse, live outside and may have never been here or are past unhappy residents. The never to be mentioned "news" site doesn't help with their bias to the negative and lack of factual information. I appreciate that the Developer doesn't get into the battles and wish more residents would attend the Resident Academy to not only learn but also develop District contacts to get answers when needed. Rumors and speculation are our enemy.

[ColdNoMore]

I often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the OP has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

Well stated. :thumbup:

Unfortunately, some small-minded and nasty people need to immediately categorize others into..."friend" versus "enemy."

Thus, their responses are forever influenced...by such categorization.

Some even have an innate need to constantly enumerate they are part of a 'majority' (in a specific location) and are so insecure that they feel the need to be...part of a "pack/clique." :ohdear:

IMHO, speaking truth to power, or a majority, regardless of the consequences or subsequent specific personal attacks...is the definition of being a true patriotic American. :cool:

[dewilson58]

All types in our world.


All types on public boards.


Thankfully, a very, very small percentage are Summer's Eve's.

[graciegirl]

Well stated. :thumbup:

Unfortunately, some small-minded and nasty people need to immediately categorize others into..."friend" versus "enemy."

Thus, their responses are forever influenced...by such categorization.

Some even have an innate need to constantly enumerate they are part of a 'majority' (in a specific location) and are so insecure that they feel the need to be...part of a "pack/clique." :ohdear:

IMHO, speaking truth to power, or a majority, regardless of the consequences or subsequent specific personal attacks...is the definition of being a true patriotic American. :cool:


Point made. AND because of so many wise and old people, understood.

[vintageogauge]

Well stated. :thumbup:

Unfortunately, some small-minded and nasty people need to immediately categorize others into..."friend" versus "enemy."

Thus, their responses are forever influenced...by such categorization.

Some even have an innate need to constantly enumerate they are part of a 'majority' (in a specific location) and are so insecure that they feel the need to be...part of a "pack/clique." :ohdear:

IMHO, speaking truth to power, or a majority, regardless of the consequences or subsequent specific personal attacks...is the definition of being a true patriotic American. :cool:


Well, you have called some posters small minded, nasty, and insecure. I think this is the type of reply that the OP considers rude, uncalled for and just plain mean. I could be wrong.

[graciegirl]

So many small and good things happen every day here. Two things happened to us yesterday and today.

Jim McLaughlin our Villages sales reps invited many to a brunch yesterday at Evans Prarie Country Club. We three joined a lone lady with a service dog. She had just moved here in July to McClure and had worked previously for twenty years at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Michigan. Our daughter and I both have a significant congenital hearing loss and she shared with us about recently getting a Cochlear implant, but more than that she shared many funny and warm experiences and told how much she was enjoying living here. Her pup was a true service animal so we couldn't interact but she shared how he had done some awesome things to help others not connected to her at all. It gave me new awareness of a true service canine. To make a long story short, we are looking forward to knowing her better, have exchanged information and feel that we are going to enjoy knowing her so much.

The second little thing happened today at Craft Class at Laurel Manor when a member of our class has a visitor, her daughter and her daughters little 21 month old grandson who was very comfortable with all of us and made our hearts smile. It is little things everywhere that refresh our spirits.

It is another wonderful and precious day here in The Villages Florida.

[NotGolfer]

I'm on the "net" a fair amount...maybe too much some days. I've noticed the snarkiness of "some"....generally it's always the same people. This site is tame compared to others I've belonged to. It's amazing how more than rude people can be when they hide behind a screen. Out and about, every once in a while one can observe some very rude people. I was raised to be polite and the "Golden Rule" was emphasized. Sad to say I'm not always using those but keep in mind for others---they may have not been taught the social mores that a bit of "sugar" goes a long way over "vinegar". What I've really noticed is that "some" people feel the need to comment whether or not it applies well to the subject or not....or a question is given and an correct answer is not---only a string of "something else's" spew forth. I've belonged to this site about 10 yrs and the kindness of posts have ebbed and flowed.

[graciegirl]

I have a good memory for an old person who has many other things going out on me. I remember when Vintageogauge first started to post because I thought and was right that he collected model train memorabilia. As time went on I really found myself enjoying his posts and we even tried once to meet the two of them at Fenney Grill but couldn't find a right day. He only has had one problem he as posted about on this Forum in all of the time I have read his posts and in all of his posts he has been even tempered and fair and I am sure he has made many friends among the folks who live close to them both in Fenney.

You know, you can just tell when someone has a good heart.

[karostay]

They are emboldened by being unanimous and hiding behind their keyi board.....a false/phony bravado that is non existent face to face!!!


Example..... Face Book

[rustyp]

Interesting to watch the thank you feature if you know the personalities here.

[Polar Bear]

Amazing how some can use nasty and mean terms and then hide behind the fact that they speak in generalities and don't direct the attacks at specific posters.

(Hey...pretty good tool. :1rotfl: )

[Bucco]

Interesting to watch the thank you feature if you know the personalities here.

It is truely amazing how so many folks can agree on every issue posted with each other and not even read those who differ. Thank you is given by WHO you are and not what you said, but that is fine...it must be important to some.

I do not see folks on here as mean, but so many know so much about everything and are willing to share while correcting others bad "thinking". Never saw so many folks speaking on behalf of older seniors and not sure where they get that information because I find myself agreeing with everyone and their right to an opinion.

Only time I get a bit "ornery" is when I am TOLD how I should feel or when people simply refer to or just post things that are flat out not true.

[GoPacers]

The Villages is a great place but there is an ever increasing number of folks here with the constant growth and with larger numbers of people you're going to get more diversity of thought and opinion which is not all bad. Unfortunately, with more people you're also going to get more folks who may not play by the "rules" when it comes to expressing their thoughts and opinions. Compounding this, it's very hard to gauge intent on forums, just like with e-mail. Some folks probably do mean to be snarky but I suspect most just don't fully appreciate how their comments are perceived. We're all getting older and our social skills are less developed compared to what they once were and for most of us are probably deteriorating just a wee bit more with each passing day.

[graciegirl]

The elves will report you right to Santa if you say bad words Gracie.

[Velvet]

The elves will report you right to Santa if you say bad words Gracie.

LOL, agreed.

[Taltarzac725]

I had gone to see The Peanut Butter Falcon back on a Tuesday after it had just opened at the Rialto and while purchasing a medium drink medium popcorn and hot dog had noticed the woman behind me pointing her index finger to her temple like her pointing a gun. I looked away and she made a noose like figure with her hands and acted like she was being hung. I was livid but said NOTHING and went to see the movie. Which I lost myself in and it sounded like she had been kicked out of the theater for this garbage and I had heard some of the women she was with talking about it happening. They sat a few rows in front of me.

They did look like Villagers. Of the younger set. The movie theater people might have seen these antics. Someone did complain about them but I did not as I am not very confrontational in person and I was extremely upset by this behavior.

So there are rather rotten people in the Villages but I find them to be few and far between. And it seemed to be motivated by the time and place as well as my own opinions. This was on October 1, 2019 in Spanish Springs.

[Velvet]

Diversity, with regards to good manners and good will, here at the forum is similar to the real world. At least where I live. You get all types of people: the narcissist, the benevolent, the grumpy, the confrontational, the wise, the helpful, the funny, and the nutty. I just sort them into their various types as I get to read more of their posts. People tend to be pretty consistent. I enjoy the good and ignore the bad. In the end they each get their comeuppance.

[bilcon]

Amen!

[graciegirl]

Amen!

and Hallelujah.

[ckcapaul]

There are many wonderful people in the Villages! I hope folks understand that much of the negativity comes from trolls from outside the community. There is too much hostility and jealousy in the world.

This happens a lot on forums

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Diversity, with regards to good manners and good will, here at the forum is similar to the real world. At least where I live. You get all types of people: the narcissist, the benevolent, the grumpy, the confrontational, the wise, the helpful, the funny, and the nutty. I just sort them into their various types as I get to read more of their posts. People tend to be pretty consistent. I enjoy the good and ignore the bad. In the end they each get their comeuppance.

Just read this today. The author theorizes that we are 11 nations with their own cultures. I can only speak to deep South, and the article pretty much hits the nail on the head.

The 11 nations of the United States and their cultures - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7)

[ckcapaul]

Just read this today. The author theorizes that we are 11 nations with their own cultures. I can only speak to deep South, and the article pretty much hits the nail on the head.

The 11 nations of the United States and their cultures - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7)

I think with the mobile society we live in most of this has gone away. Just my opinion

[Nucky]

Anybody remember a valued poster named Rubicon? I looked forward to his reply on many issues just like I did with Carl From Tampa God rest his soul.

These fantastic people gave up on our Forum because it became a hassle to participate. There are many more people than that who have been targeted by The Very Small Minority of Keyboarding Olympians who for the thrill burn someone to the ground and then say, Did I Do That?

It was rough for a while and I was a target for a bit from a few so I speak from experience that I know that being attacked by the squad is hurtful. I don’t respond to them and wouldn’t look at their coveted links for all The Tea In The Villages.

The higher ups have used the suspension of people in a very useful way because when they get their privileges back they are as Demure as can be for a bit. Great observation and post to the OP. Most people are just fantastic. Just a couple misguided posters who beg for attention with their negativity.

[TOMMY D]

Reality of it all is not everyone is nice here. Altercations happen here and are often suppressed. It would tarnish the Village name when selling. They advertise the FRIENDLINESS place to live. Been here four years and between accidents I've been involved in due to drivers that shouldn't be driving, increase in population that puts a condition of when best time to eat somewhere or driving around to find a parking space or dealing with people who think my lawn is theirs for dogs to do it's business. Made a mistake coming here. Tax increase with no say was another reason and have to ask if the Morse Family really cares of what their building is doing. Brownwood is an example of over crowding.

[claytocl]

There are many wonderful people in the Villages! I hope folks understand that much of the negativity comes from trolls from outside the community. There is too much hostility and jealousy in the world.
It’s this type of reply that started this post. Play nice.

[Bucco]

Anybody remember a valued poster named Rubicon? I looked forward to his reply on many issues just like I did with Carl From Tampa God rest his soul.

These fantastic people gave up on our Forum because it became a hassle to participate. There are many more people than that who have been targeted by The Very Small Minority of Keyboarding Olympians who for the thrill burn someone to the ground and then say, Did I Do That?

It was rough for a while and I was a target for a bit from a few so I speak from experience that I know that being attacked by the squad is hurtful. I don’t respond to them and wouldn’t look at their coveted links for all The Tea In The Villages.

The higher ups have used the suspension of people in a very useful way because when they get their privileges back they are as Demure as can be for a bit. Great observation and post to the OP. Most people are just fantastic. Just a couple misguided posters who beg for attention with their negativity.

I don't beleive you have been here long enough to make such a claim.

Your memory goes to the most recent failed political forums only.

There was a time, albeit with less members where members from political and the regular forum interacted like civil human beings in or out of the prescribed area.

In those days, you were expected to supply, in political, links to validate what basis you used in a discussion of issues, and then the discussion was issues.

When you left that area, you left behind political differences and spoke to the thread subject, and actually the constantchange of subject within threads did not exist as much.

As the forum grew, more people of course, plus many have made it an art form of deciding to change subjects on threads if they do not like the direction of the original OP

[Annie66]

So many small and good things happen every day here. Two things happened to us yesterday and today.

Jim McLaughlin our Villages sales reps invited many to a brunch yesterday at Evans Prarie Country Club. We three joined a lone lady with a service dog. She had just moved here in July to McClure and had worked previously for twenty years at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Michigan. Our daughter and I both have a significant congenital hearing loss and she shared with us about recently getting a Cochlear implant, but more than that she shared many funny and warm experiences and told how much she was enjoying living here. Her pup was a true service animal so we couldn't interact but she shared how he had done some awesome things to help others not connected to her at all. It gave me new awareness of a true service canine. To make a long story short, we are looking forward to knowing her better, have exchanged information and feel that we are going to enjoy knowing her so much.

The second little thing happened today at Craft Class at Laurel Manor when a member of our class has a visitor, her daughter and her daughters little 21 month old grandson who was very comfortable with all of us and made our hearts smile. It is little things everywhere that refresh our spirits.

It is another wonderful and precious day here in The Villages Florida.

Thank you for sharing. Your life is inspiring. :)

[Deebee007]

Accentuate the good things. Thanks for sharing Annie.

[Aces4]

I agree that some of those commenting are, at best, snowbirds and at worse, live outside and may have never been here or are past unhappy residents. The never to be mentioned "news" site doesn't help with their bias to the negative and lack of factual information. I appreciate that the Developer doesn't get into the battles and wish more residents would attend the Resident Academy to not only learn but also develop District contacts to get answers when needed. Rumors and speculation are our enemy.

Now that is funny, thanks for the laugh and the informational advice that seasonal residents cause all the problems along with outsiders. You do realize you just profiled yourself as the type of person of which the OP spoke? Kindness starts with oneself and an unbiased soul, maybe self examination would be helpful. Enjoy your day.

[Nucky]

I often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the OP has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

I wholeheartedly agree with your post. Instead of simple neighborly discussions, people are put on Cross-Examination by other very knowledgeable, high edumacated enlightened and unteachable people who take joy in burning down the house so to speak. It is easy to see that a thread is going to end shortly when some of these people enter the discussion.

I'm glad you brought this up. We went for a ride looking at Christmas Lights over around Dunkirk Trail and still observed many people with lots of holiday spirit. We both are making a choice to get caught up in that feeling instead of the negativity spread by a few. Enough already. Take the attacks somewhere else.

A few years ago if someone flipped me the Bird I would have chased them to get in the last word. Not anymore. THEY ARE NOT WORTH IT. It's a shame it's like that but whatareyougonnado?

Happy Holiday's to the OP, great observations. :bigbow:

[Mumbles]

[QUOTE=Bucco;1701316]I don't beleive you have been here long enough to make such a claim.

Your memory goes to the most recent failed political forums only.

[B]Search for the truth; shy away from the immediate judgment because one may not know what circumstances led to a person's statement. This is but ONE method of arguing intelligently.[B]

[Nucky]

[QUOTE=Bucco;1701316]I don't beleive you have been here long enough to make such a claim.

Your memory goes to the most recent failed political forums only.

[B]Search for the truth; shy away from the immediate judgment because one may not know what circumstances led to a person's statement. This is but ONE method of arguing intelligently.[B]

Hey, Mumbles send me an invoice for representing me cause you are showing the nice way that the OP speaks of and the previous poster spun the entire meaning of the thread and my post, as usual, the end of what was a beautiful discussion will be coming to an end. In fact, I have been around long enough and don't need to prove that to anyone. Never thought about anything political either. I want to be kind but I'm getting dizzy from the spin! :blahblahblah: Thanks Mumbles.

[billethkid]

Reality of it all is not everyone is nice here. Altercations happen here and are often suppressed. It would tarnish the Village name when selling. They advertise the FRIENDLINESS place to live. Been here four years and between accidents I've been involved in due to drivers that shouldn't be driving, increase in population that puts a condition of when best time to eat somewhere or driving around to find a parking space or dealing with people who think my lawn is theirs for dogs to do it's business. Made a mistake coming here. Tax increase with no say was another reason and have to ask if the Morse Family really cares of what their building is doing. Brownwood is an example of over crowding.

The unfortunate reality is that the minority of TV behavior is what people conjure up into being a general condition.....WHEN IT IS NOT!!!

The above post may be a catharsis about a 5% representation. The other 95% of us think TV is what it is advertised to be.

OK....make it 10% and 90%....I rest my case!!

[Taltarzac725]

Anybody remember a valued poster named Rubicon? I looked forward to his reply on many issues just like I did with Carl From Tampa God rest his soul.

These fantastic people gave up on our Forum because it became a hassle to participate. There are many more people than that who have been targeted by The Very Small Minority of Keyboarding Olympians who for the thrill burn someone to the ground and then say, Did I Do That?

It was rough for a while and I was a target for a bit from a few so I speak from experience that I know that being attacked by the squad is hurtful. I don’t respond to them and wouldn’t look at their coveted links for all The Tea In The Villages.

The higher ups have used the suspension of people in a very useful way because when they get their privileges back they are as Demure as can be for a bit. Great observation and post to the OP. Most people are just fantastic. Just a couple misguided posters who beg for attention with their negativity.

Really liked Rubicon's stuff on TOTV.

[Polar Bear]

Reality of it all is not everyone is nice here. Altercations happen here and are often suppressed. It would tarnish the Village name when selling. They advertise the FRIENDLINESS place to live. Been here four years and between accidents I've been involved in due to drivers that shouldn't be driving, increase in population that puts a condition of when best time to eat somewhere or driving around to find a parking space or dealing with people who think my lawn is theirs for dogs to do it's business. Made a mistake coming here. Tax increase with no say was another reason and have to ask if the Morse Family really cares of what their building is doing. Brownwood is an example of over crowding.
Good luck in finding that PERFECT place. Sounds like that’s the only place that will make you happy.

[Gigi3000]

The current political climate has alot of people irratable

[Bucco]

[QUOTE=Mumbles;1701330]

Hey, Mumbles send me an invoice for representing me cause you are showing the nice way that the OP speaks of and the previous poster spun the entire meaning of the thread and my post, as usual, the end of what was a beautiful discussion will be coming to an end. In fact, I have been around long enough and don't need to prove that to anyone. Never thought about anything political either. I want to be kind but I'm getting dizzy from the spin! :blahblahblah: Thanks Mumbles.

PERFECT EXAMPLE.

This is not only a great example but expected. Disagree if you wish but why we cannot be adults is well beyond me. I simply point out that this forum being criticized has been around for awhile and it was not always populated with mean spirited folks. This "attitude" is new but maybe I have not been paying attention.

[Bucco]

The current political climate has alot of people irratable

You said it and nailed it. THAT is the only difference I see in this forum is the mean spirited, control attitude by some. Political climate used to be about differences in issues, not personal destruction. That spills into all walks of life.

[OhioBuckeye]

I often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the OP has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

I don't think it makes any difference where you move to, you're going to run into all types of people. There's no perfect town or city!

[Win1894]

It's sounding like we need a TOTV 'safe space'.
My response to criticism and mean comments is to grow thicker skin.
I now have the hide of an elephant.

[graciegirl]

Anybody remember a valued poster named Rubicon? I looked forward to his reply on many issues just like I did with Carl From Tampa God rest his soul.

These fantastic people gave up on our Forum because it became a hassle to participate. There are many more people than that who have been targeted by The Very Small Minority of Keyboarding Olympians who for the thrill burn someone to the ground and then say, Did I Do That?

It was rough for a while and I was a target for a bit from a few so I speak from experience that I know that being attacked by the squad is hurtful. I don’t respond to them and wouldn’t look at their coveted links for all The Tea In The Villages.

The higher ups have used the suspension of people in a very useful way because when they get their privileges back they are as Demure as can be for a bit. Great observation and post to the OP. Most people are just fantastic. Just a couple misguided posters who beg for attention with their negativity.

I miss him too, and wonder if he is well. Both sides of that debate had some wonderful people who debated well and properly and didn't side step or whine when a better point was made. Of course you remember who Rubicon was and Richard who often took the other side and has gone to the arms of God. I liked and respected them both and didn't ALWAYS agree with them all of the time. They were both gentlemen and kind. And didn't JUST focus on politics either. Richard worked at the soup kitchen near The Villages for years. Rubicon was very interested in the economics of the country and the world and was brilliant in his assessments. I can't recall either of them having tantrums or sulking. AND they always made their point in a few words.

[billethkid]

I don't think it makes any difference where you move to, you're going to run into all types of people. There's no perfect town or city!

And the few who go against the grain are in the minority that always seem to get all the attention.

[Bucco]

I miss him too, and wonder if he is well. Both sides of that debate had some wonderful people who debated well and properly and didn't side step or whine when a better point was made. Of course you remember who Rubicon was and Richard who often took the other side and has gone to the arms of God. I liked and respected them both and didn't ALWAYS agree with them all of the time. They were both gentlemen and kind. And didn't JUST focus on politics either. Richard worked at the soup kitchen near The Villages for years. Rubicon was very interested in the economics of the country and the world and was brilliant in his assessments. I can't recall either of them having tantrums or sulking. AND they always made their point in a few words.

Richard Davis, aka Buggy (among others) :) was on the other ends of my political views but we shared a strong interest in truth and being civil.

While we disagreed so much but began a nice relationship by PM where we discussed without any interruption by the hate.

He was a nice and honorable man for sure

[graciegirl]

And the few who go against the grain are in the minority that always seem to get all the attention.

One of these days we three Gantners want to meet the both of you. You are a wise man.

[joldnol]

cable news will be the bane of our country

[billethkid]

cable news will be the bane of our country

Only the ones with letters............:duck:

[Polar Bear]

Richard Davis, aka Buggy (among others) :) was on the other ends of my political views but we shared a strong interest in truth and being civil.

While we disagreed so much but began a nice relationship by PM where we discussed without any interruption by the hate.

He was a nice and honorable man for sure
Oh my gosh! Richard and I could not have been more different in our political views, and yet I considered him one of my best friends in TV. What a guy. I was heartbroken when he passed.

[sipops]

I thought you had to be a member of the community to be on here.

[Taltarzac725]

I thought you had to be a member of the community to be on here.

No. You could be someone looking to move to the Villages, or someone who left or a relative or friend of someone looking to move here or any variety of other people.

[asianthree]

I thought you had to be a member of the community to be on here.

Sadly no. It amazes me that some who’s posts are so negative about TV, have never lived here. A few have never visited. In time you will figure out who you value for advice

[Northwoods]

Anybody remember a valued poster named Rubicon? I looked forward to his reply on many issues just like I did with Carl From Tampa God rest his soul.

These fantastic people gave up on our Forum because it became a hassle to participate. There are many more people than that who have been targeted by The Very Small Minority of Keyboarding Olympians who for the thrill burn someone to the ground and then say, Did I Do That?

It was rough for a while and I was a target for a bit from a few so I speak from experience that I know that being attacked by the squad is hurtful. I don’t respond to them and wouldn’t look at their coveted links for all The Tea In The Villages.

The higher ups have used the suspension of people in a very useful way because when they get their privileges back they are as Demure as can be for a bit. Great observation and post to the OP. Most people are just fantastic. Just a couple misguided posters who beg for attention with their negativity.

So well said. I bet "the small minority" have no clue that they are the small minority.

[queasy27]

I think the mods do a good job of squashing any keeping name-calling or outright meanness towards others, but I will agree that the constant cross-examinations can drive people away. Even the most innocuous question or comment is met with a barrage of: did you ask, did you talk, did you call, why are you posting that here, is your vision good, were you speeding, why aren't you answering, do you even live here, how long, what village, why, when, how, etc.

And if a comment is anything even the least bit negative about The Villages: "There must be more to the story."

Some posters can be quite opinionated about How Everything Should Be Done. :icon_wink:

[graciegirl]

I think the mods do a good job of squashing any keeping name-calling or outright meanness towards others, but I will agree that the constant cross-examinations can drive people away. Even the most innocuous question or comment is met with a barrage of: did you ask, did you talk, did you call, why are you posting that here, is your vision good, were you speeding, why aren't you answering, do you even live here, how long, what village, why, when, how, etc.

And if a comment is anything even the least bit negative about The Villages: "There must be more to the story."

Some posters can be quite opinionated about How Everything Should Be Done. :icon_wink:

I think you described me. I will try to do better, but some folks do put up a "rant" about something that sounds very unusual and then...people read it and think...What is he/she talking about?

And some people...(like me) will post something seemingly innocent because we can't come straight out and say some stuff because of site rules.

Please don't tell Santa. It is very hard for me to be good.

[PugMom]

lovely post. yes, its best not to focus on the cruel posts, i feel its the same few who may be miserable or nasty. i keep my discussions to the point in terms of being relevant, & meet LOTS of very nice, genuine people who can not only speak well, but makes the nasty comments so insignificant i give them no notice. i love it here in the villages & am proud to say so.

[Madelaine Amee]

I often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the OP has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

My very personal feeling is that it is built into us to fight before we flee. If humans were able to politely disagree in a rational manner there would be no need for war. My Father used to say put all the warmongers from both sides in a room and let them fight it out, instead of sending other peoples' children to fight their battles for them. Maybe we need a chat line where posters can throw insults at each other and get it out of their system.

Rudeness, throwing a finger, yelling obscenities and actually raising a fist to someone who does something that WE think is against us personally is, unfortunately, becoming the way most of the human race reacts, and it would appear that many people think there is nothing wrong with that reaction..

[Taltarzac725]

I had gone to see The Peanut Butter Falcon back on a Tuesday after it had just opened at the Rialto and while purchasing a medium drink medium popcorn and hot dog had noticed the woman behind me pointing her index finger to her temple like her pointing a gun. I looked away and she made a noose like figure with her hands and acted like she was being hung. I was livid but said NOTHING and went to see the movie. Which I lost myself in and it sounded like she had been kicked out of the theater for this garbage and I had heard some of the women she was with talking about it happening. They sat a few rows in front of me.

They did look like Villagers. Of the younger set. The movie theater people might have seen these antics. Someone did complain about them but I did not as I am not very confrontational in person and I was extremely upset by this behavior.

So there are rather rotten people in the Villages but I find them to be few and far between. And it seemed to be motivated by the time and place as well as my own opinions. This was on October 1, 2019 in Spanish Springs.

My older brother and his wife were in town from October 5-9 so I talked them into seeing The Peanut Butter Falcon at the Rialto Theater on Tuesday October 8, 2019 and created some good memories to associate with this great movie.

I try to fix bad experiences with good ones even if that does not always work. And the good people I have met in the Villages far outnumber the lousy ones. And the Rialto management did the right thing with kicking this tall blonde 50ish woman out of the theater that day. Not sure what else happened after that as it is pretty much out of my hands.

The rotten people do not control my life. I did not tell my brother and sister-in-law about this garbage nor definitely did not tell my parents, neighbors, etc. about this woman's cruel actions.

[JimJohnson]

I believe most of us want to play nice. Some like to troll and some just don’t like themselves. I have been so fortunate to be with the same woman that I adore for over 50 years and we both love The Villages lifestyle, so it is easy for me to be nice, so I offer to share love and best wishes to those that would rather create Chaos. I say try it the nice way and you will be surprised how good it makes you feel inside.

[Taltarzac725]

I believe most of us want to play nice. Some like to troll and some just don’t like themselves. I have been so fortunate to be with the same woman that I adore for over 50 years and we both love The Villages lifestyle, so it is easy for me to be nice, so I offer to share love and best wishes to those that would rather create Chaos. I say try it the nice way and you will be surprised how good it makes you feel inside.

Very nice post. Many of the Villagers I have met here since June 2005 are very much like you. My Mom and Dad have been married since around 1954. Or maybe even before that. He was in a M.A.S.H. Unit in Korea but the war was over before he landed there.

[Madelaine Amee]

My older brother and his wife were in town from October 5-9 so I talked them into seeing The Peanut Butter Falcon at the Rialto Theater on Tuesday October 8, 2019 and created some good memories to associate with this great movie.

I try to fix bad experiences with good ones even if that does not always work. And the good people I have met in the Villages far outnumber the lousy ones. And the Rialto management did the right thing with kicking this tall blonde 50ish woman out of the theater that day. Not sure what else happened after that as it is pretty much out of my hands.

The rotten people do not control my life. I did not tell my brother and sister-in-law about this garbage nor definitely did not tell my parents, neighbors, etc. about this woman's cruel actions.

Don't let it eat you, she probably thinks she is funny, someone needs to tell her otherwise.

[Taltarzac725]

Don't let it eat you, she probably thinks she is funny, someone needs to tell her otherwise.

She probably was quite surprised when they kicked her out of the Rialto. I was buying a medium coke, medium buttered popcorn and hot dog at the time and felt that someone was behind me doing something strange from how the counter person was re-acting. That is when I saw her pointing an imaginary pistol at her temple. I looked back to the person helping me and then at this woman who was then making a noose and twisting her neck. The counter person definitely saw this junk as I hope did some of the other theater workers and customers.

It looked like the some of the women with her came into The Peanut Butter Falcon as they were talking about how "she" managed to get herself kicked out of the theater so that she would not be joining them.

I am very vocal on Facebook and was kind of a main target on the TOTV Political Forum when it was open. Those played a role as well as what happened across the street from the Rialto in early October of 2019.

[Luv2Bretired]

I think the mods do a good job of squashing any keeping name-calling or outright meanness towards others, but I will agree that the constant cross-examinations can drive people away. Even the most innocuous question or comment is met with a barrage of: did you ask, did you talk, did you call, why are you posting that here, is your vision good, were you speeding, why aren't you answering, do you even live here, how long, what village, why, when, how, etc.

And if a comment is anything even the least bit negative about The Villages: "There must be more to the story."

Some posters can be quite opinionated about How Everything Should Be Done. :icon_wink:

Some posts by a handful of people I do find range from doltish to downright vicious. As a hopeful future Villager if I thought these posters represented typical Villagers I would retire somewhere else. However, having spent some time in The Villages I know these curmudgeons are likely not a numerous component of the populace.

[JimJohnson]

Some posts by a handful of people I do find range from doltish to downright vicious. As a hopeful future Villager if I thought these posters represented typical Villagers I would retire somewhere else. However, having spent some time in The Villages I know these curmudgeons are likely not a numerous component of the populace.

I felt that when I started posting on this site, but found quickly that if you are harassed, the monitors will step in an correct the situation. Don’t get trolled in and I witness that after 10 years here, only a very small group will give you a hard time. Ignore them and you will enjoy this site and I promise, you will love The Villages.

[Nucky]

Why can't we all play nice? Loving Animals, what a perfect question really! I know your heart is in the right place so to speak.

Your question was a refresher for me. I have drastically improved and play better with others but admit that there is always room for improvement. I have a blast mixing it up with a few people. Why not, it keeps things interesting. It is much more fun to be on the defense and taking care of your own character than it is attacking other people's character especially when I have no right to do so. I prefer to be a Peace Maker instead of trying to be the troublemaker. We should all remember that a person who we attack may be taking care of a sick person, may have just experienced a major loss of some kind and is someone's Mom, Dad, Husband, Wife, Sister, Brother etc or may have just gotten a bad medical report about themselves or a loved one.

We can't all play nice, Not a chance. Countries, religions, Political Parties, Family, Marriages, Races, Children Bla Bla Bla can't get along. Why would it happen here?

I'm gonna try harder and love the way you asked your question and it is nice to meet someone so thoughtful on our Forum. Great Job you AnimalLover you! :1rotfl::1rotfl: Greg Gutfeld ANIMALS are Great BIRTHDAY - YouTube (https://youtu.be/6oaNuE8FtEI)

[Garywt]

2% of any group try to ruin it for the rest. Just stay positive and ignore the noise.

[xcaligirl]

Recently I have seen posters who have been banned return under a new name. It takes a while for the moderators to figure this out, and sometimes it goes on for awhile. I don't think this Forum should have people who only think one way, but there are people who fall out of the perimeters of behavior of what most people find decent and they have agenda's not easily understood. Maybe all of their life they have been like that or some life shattering things have made them bitter and angry.

I have grown to have a thicker skin online, but there are still bullies and brawlers and I hate it when I sink to their level and sometimes I do.
Gracie, you are always so nice! If you got mad, there was a definite reason! Thanks for all of your positive responses all the time.

[xcaligirl]

My feeling is because there are some pretty nasty people here. Some are older and not very healthy which makes them even more cranky however NO excuse! They feel it's easy to sit behind a computer and say whatever they want to say. There are nice people here.

[dewilson58]

2% of any group try to ruin it for the rest. Just stay positive and ignore the noise.




Usually all "you" hear about is the top 2%, this is the bottom 2%.




:bigbow:

[New Englander]

This happens a lot on forums

:agree:

[OhioBuckeye]

I'm on the "net" a fair amount...maybe too much some days. I've noticed the snarkiness of "some"....generally it's always the same people. This site is tame compared to others I've belonged to. It's amazing how more than rude people can be when they hide behind a screen. Out and about, every once in a while one can observe some very rude people. I was raised to be polite and the "Golden Rule" was emphasized. Sad to say I'm not always using those but keep in mind for others---they may have not been taught the social mores that a bit of "sugar" goes a long way over "vinegar". What I've really noticed is that "some" people feel the need to comment whether or not it applies well to the subject or not....or a question is given and an correct answer is not---only a string of "something else's" spew forth. I've belonged to this site about 10 yrs and the kindness of posts have ebbed and flowed.

I agree, I think sometimes when you give your opinion about something, there’s some people that aren’t going to let you be right & can get a little mean about it when they tell you that they know more about the subject. Where I live now, it’s not a retirement community but a very nice place to live, other than this one time comment. The first thing I was told by my granddaughter was, watch what you post. Apparently a couple of people didn’t like my comment & I was called a Ahole & a P_ _ _k. They could of made their point without saying what they learned when living at home.

[graciegirl]

I felt that when I started posting on this site, but found quickly that if you are harassed, the monitors will step in an correct the situation. Don’t get trolled in and I witness that after 10 years here, only a very small group will give you a hard time. Ignore them and you will enjoy this site and I promise, you will love The Villages.

And some grow softer and kinder as the good stuff that happens here changes them into better people.

[mikelin]

I totally agree with both the positives and negatives. If someone was hateful in their previous location ... people change addresses ... they don't change personalities. I'm from NYC ... Wall Street ... some attitudes extend past the job and life experiences. My positive contribution ... my husband and I can't imagine living anywhere else. We've slowed down and taken the time to enjoy the clubs and various activities. BTW ... try the Next Door Neighbor site. TMI and OMG! LOL!

[Mortal1]

I often am amazed at how rude responses can be on this forum. Uncalled for and just plain mean. Cant people respond in a nice manner, even if they disagree? Why all the animosity? I'm not talking politics or anything like that, but sometimes the post is totally innocent a d people respond like the OP has no brain. It's just plain mean and rude.

of understanding "human" no? Have you even bothered to understand why we are the way we are? No? Not surprised.

[Northwoods]

of understanding "human" no? Have you even bothered to understand why we are the way we are? No? Not surprised.

Either this is sarcasm or it's a great example of the topic of this thread. (or am I missing something?)

[pauld315]

I have read through some of the responses to this thread. The funny thing is that many of the people who actually are the meanest on this forum, don't even recognize they are he people the OP are talking about. I have been a victim of their comments whenever you might say something negative or realistic about what is going on here. Look at yourself in the mirror.

[Northwoods]

I have read through some of the responses to this thread. The funny thing is that many of the people who actually are the meanest on this forum, don't even recognize they are he people the OP are talking about. I have been a victim of their comments whenever you might say something negative or realistic about what is going on here. Look at yourself in the mirror.
:agree:

[graciegirl]

My very personal feeling is that it is built into us to fight before we flee. If humans were able to politely disagree in a rational manner there would be no need for war. My Father used to say put all the warmongers from both sides in a room and let them fight it out, instead of sending other peoples' children to fight their battles for them. Maybe we need a chat line where posters can throw insults at each other and get it out of their system.

Rudeness, throwing a finger, yelling obscenities and actually raising a fist to someone who does something that WE think is against us personally is, unfortunately, becoming the way most of the human race reacts, and it would appear that many people think there is nothing wrong with that reaction..

Most people would never try to harm another.

[CFrance]

(snipped) Maybe we need a chat line where posters can throw insults at each other and get it out of their system.

That was called the political forum...

[Madelaine Amee]

Most people would never try to harm another.

I totally, but respectfully, disagree with your comment. I think the time we are living in is driving more and more violence, both verbally and physically.

There is the difference, I acknowledge your right to disagree with my comment and I do so RESPECTFULLY and have not chosen to answer it in a negative way which, unfortunately, many posters here would do.

[Madelaine Amee]

Either this is sarcasm or it's a great example of the topic of this thread. (or am I missing something?)

I think it is sarcasm :ohdear:

[Love2Swim]

Amazing how some can use nasty and mean terms and then hide behind the fact that they speak in generalities and don't direct the attacks at specific posters.

(Hey...pretty good tool. :1rotfl: )

Yes, or they can be folksy and kind to some people, and snarky with others. People do notice.

[jacksonbrown]

It's the same problem that plagues all social media sites; FB, twidder, instagrom, etc. That is, people will say (write) comments that they would never do face-to-face.

[Polar Bear]

Most people would never try to harm another.
I totally, but respectfully, disagree with your comment...
You disagree that MOST people people would never try to harm another?!?

So you actually believe MOST people WOULD try to harm another?!?

Wow.

[Madelaine Amee]

You disagree that MOST people people would never try to harm another?!?

So you actually believe MOST people WOULD try to harm another?!?

Wow.

I do. I don't necessarily mean by actually doing another bodily harm, but if you look at the times that you see and hear about people pushing people aside to get where they want to go without thought for others, verbal abuse, spousal abuse, threatening, road rage, and the list goes on. I think we are becoming more and more uncivilized in general ways.

[Aces4]

I do. I don't necessarily mean by actually doing another bodily harm, but if you look at the times that you see and hear about people pushing people aside to get where they want to go without thought for others, verbal abuse, spousal abuse, threatening, road rage, and the list goes on. I think we are becoming more and more uncivilized in general ways.

I disagree but then I’m not from Florida or the coasts and I can understand different perspectives. I firmly believe in the adage of being the change you want to see.

[Polar Bear]

I do...people pushing people aside to get where they want to go without thought for others, verbal abuse, spousal abuse, threatening, road rage, and the list goes on...I think we are becoming more and more uncivilized...
But "most people"?!?

I'm glad I don't live in your world.

[Bucco]

But "most people"?!?

I'm glad I don't live in your world.

For anyone interested in the real world....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/30/how-online-hate-speech-is-fueling-real-life-violence/

The connection between online hate speech and real-world hate crime | OUPblog (https://blog.oup.com/2019/10/connection-between-online-hate-speech-real-world-hate-crime/)

[Aces4]

For anyone interested in the real world....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/30/how-online-hate-speech-is-fueling-real-life-violence/

The connection between online hate speech and real-world hate crime | OUPblog (https://blog.oup.com/2019/10/connection-between-online-hate-speech-real-world-hate-crime/)

Isn’t insisting everyone be in march step with one’s opinion part of the problem? We all live “in the real world”, but we don’t all live on the same block or community. Intolerance is the largest issue in the world.

[Polar Bear]

For anyone interested in the real world....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/30/how-online-hate-speech-is-fueling-real-life-violence/

The connection between online hate speech and real-world hate crime | OUPblog (https://blog.oup.com/2019/10/connection-between-online-hate-speech-real-world-hate-crime/)
I know the world isn’t perfect. But I’m not sure how those links defend the claim that _most_ people are nasty.

[Barefoot]

of understanding "human" no? Have you even bothered to understand why we are the way we are? No? Not surprised.

Either this is sarcasm or it's a great example of the topic of this thread. (or am I missing something?)

Northwoods, I agree, and I don't think you're missing anything.
I think it's sarcasm, not sure though.

[Aces4]

I agree with you on intolerance. Defined as 'unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own."


I accept that, and where I get into trouble is insisting that the views I am expected to accept are actually true.

Not accepting what is being said is not always intolerant, but respecting truth, and by truth I mean facts that can be measured and stand up for inspection.

That stands for dog poop, hate crimes gun control, or gold course fees.

And that is where intolerance steps in, cherry picking the truths that some wave as flags and ignoring the other truths that may not enhance their agenda. May we all have open minds and not just to facts that are snippets of the truth. Then you have tolerance.

[Velvet]

And yet our diverse opinions is what make us so interesting. What a boring world it would be if everyone always agreed with me. Like robots. It is not the disagreements that are the problem, in my opinion, it is how they are said. For example, as when a mother sweetly calls to her child, “Come here.” Or ragingly demands, “Come here!”

[Bucco]

And that is where intolerance steps in, cherry picking the truths that some wave as flags and ignoring the other truths that may not enhance their agenda. May we all have open minds and not just to facts that are snippets of the truth. Then you have tolerance.

Fact are facts.

When I ask for links...I am not being a wise guy....just saying....on what do you base what you are saying ?

It is impossible to discuss any subject with one party not dealing with facts.

But we are straying from the scope of this thread.....we cannot place nice for a number of reasons...

1. As admirably said by folks better with words than I......THAT is how the world is and has become. Anger, hate shown in physical and verbal ways DAILY, not sometimes but always.

2. My opinion, not anyone else I suppose.....is on some subjects, you need to deal with facts. I have learned over the years that you CAN verify facts. You also can be confronted with things that are simply not provable and you must use common sense and logic.

Today, it is easier in that video and archives of information is readibly available.

On local issues, like those I mentioned......and hate to go back in time, but used to be that threads on those issues would run their course quickly if all stayed on the topic. They are not complicated as it is expected that you will read opinion on here based on known facts. That kind of discussion should not cause problems.

Problem, in my opinion, is we label everyone as WE see them, not based on an opinion on the topic being discussed. I suppose that is LISTENING (reading in this case) that is not done much......either shut it down depending on the poster and his/her rep, or change the subject or topic.

When I worked in WashDC, I had many discussions with folks that knew I disagreed with on many subjects and many times found myself agreeing after discussion. Certainly not as often as those with whom I had a basic agreement but it did happen as a result of listening, respecting and acknowledging. I can recall a few instances of shaking hands and rushing back to my desk to validate what he/she said (well before internet) because i agreed with him or her. Once validated, respect on both sides just grew.

Simple but today not so much.

[Aces4]

Fact are facts.

When I ask for links...I am not being a wise guy....just saying....on what do you base what you are saying ?

It is impossible to discuss any subject with one party not dealing with facts.

But we are straying from the scope of this thread.....we cannot place nice for a number of reasons...

1. As admirably said by folks better with words than I......THAT is how the world is and has become. Anger, hate shown in physical and verbal ways DAILY, not sometimes but always.

2. My opinion, not anyone else I suppose.....is on some subjects, you need to deal with facts. I have learned over the years that you CAN verify facts. You also can be confronted with things that are simply not provable and you must use common sense and logic.

Today, it is easier in that video and archives of information is readibly available.

On local issues, like those I mentioned......and hate to go back in time, but used to be that threads on those issues would run their course quickly if all stayed on the topic. They are not complicated as it is expected that you will read opinion on here based on known facts. That kind of discussion should not cause problems.

Problem, in my opinion, is we label everyone as WE see them, not based on an opinion on the topic being discussed. I suppose that is LISTENING (reading in this case) that is not done much......either shut it down depending on the poster and his/her rep, or change the subject or topic.

When I worked in WashDC, I had many discussions with folks that knew I disagreed with on many subjects and many times found myself agreeing after discussion. Certainly not as often as those with whom I had a basic agreement but it did happen as a result of listening, respecting and acknowledging. I can recall a few instances of shaking hands and rushing back to my desk to validate what he/she said (well before internet) because i agreed with him or her. Once validated, respect on both sides just grew.

Simple but today not so much.

It depends on the personality and projection. There are so many people on this forum with which I would enjoy a conversation and exchange of ideaologies. But then, I wouldn’t take every conversation to the computer for verification. For me life is too short. I enjoy TOTV and most of the conversations through the years. I do miss Muncle, Fumar and others who have passed on that were mentioned previously on TOTV. They were good people and there are plenty here now.

[Velvet]

Yes, Bucco, in my native language we have a saying, “priests are life long learners” translated it means there is no time when we know everything. The younger age we close off ourselves to new learning, to new view points, the smaller people we become.

[Bucco]

Yes, Bucco, in my native language we have a saying, “priests are life long learners” translated it means there is no time when we know everything. The younger age we close off ourselves to new learning, to new view points, the smaller people we become.

I was lucky. Trained well to validate what I was told......cannot in todays age even imagine, where lying has become "accepted" in some circles, doing that.

That did not mean we spent our times checking and double checking (we did on vital issues) but TRUST became an ASSET.....knowing the liars had value as well.

Times are different but what has not changed is truth will always win out and blind believing is simply enabling a liar (PLEASE...not being political).

Because of all of that, I enjoy new ideas, new ways to do things or describe things. I am mocked on here because of my adherence or requesting facts and links to show your backup. Still think it is an asset and not a liability no matter how "they" wish to construe it.

[Aces4]

There is definitely a clique on TOTV where friends support each other’s posts and lambaste those who disagree with them. So the discussions have limited value when you have a bunch of people ganging up on others to push their own agenda.

Would one have us on TOTV believe that you, Bucco and Velvet are a clique? You all have the same philosophy, it appears, and you vigorously defend your positions so you must be “a clique”. That always amuses me when that assertion is made as if there are bands of posters working as cliques. I can’t speak for others but I don’t PM people on here and only know who a few are because they posted their names. I don’t socialize with them either. And now it appears you are “ganging up on others to push your agenda”. Intolerance leads to nastiness. Relax and lose the paranoia, life is good. Actually, I and a host of other seniors must be in Velvet’s clique because we have seen much, are continually learning and very open minded which some are missing.

[Boomer]

I think the mods do a good job of squashing any keeping name-calling or outright meanness towards others, but I will agree that the constant cross-examinations can drive people away. Even the most innocuous question or comment is met with a barrage of: did you ask, did you talk, did you call, why are you posting that here, is your vision good, were you speeding, why aren't you answering, do you even live here, how long, what village, why, when, how, etc.

And if a comment is anything even the least bit negative about The Villages: "There must be more to the story."

Some posters can be quite opinionated about How Everything Should Be Done. :icon_wink:


You nailed it!

There will always be posters who try to make themselves feel better by trying to make others feel worse.

They seem to thrive on trying to create and rule an Us vs. Them environment -- which is permeating TOTV more and more.

When a differing opinion does not set just right, such posters drag out and sling the usual tired old phrases at the "offending" poster -- like, "Must be jealous." -- "Must have a crappy personality." -- "Must be unhappy." -- "Must not get along with anybody." -- "Must have a hidden agenda." -- "Must not be as smart as me." On and on it goes. Predictable as can be.

The intense need to control the narrative must be exhausting. It is certainly transparent. I guess there are those who are just wired like that.

Oh well, it's all theater -- getting awfully formulaic though.

[Aces4]

You nailed it!

There will always be posters who try to make themselves feel better by trying to make others feel worse.

They seem to thrive on trying to create and rule an Us. vs. Them environment -- which is permeating TOTV more and more.

When a differing opinion does not set just right, such posters drag out and sling the usual tired old phrases at the "offending" poster -- like, "Must be jealous." -- "Must have a crappy personality." "Must not get along with anybody." -- "Must have a hidden agenda." -- "Must not be as smart as me." On and on it goes. Predictable as can be.

The need to control the narrative must be rather exhausting. It is certainly transparent. I guess there are those who are just wired like that.

Oh well, it's all theater -- getting awfully formulaic though.

Excellent observation, thank you!